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>>212937380 (OP)
>Decker class
Disgusting, and befitting

defend this design

>>212937565
>>212937428
>>212937380 (OP)
the ayys are laughing at us when they see this

wtf is with the Klingons in STD?!
I don't get it bros.

>>212937428
They're naming ships after paedophiles?

>>212937380 (OP)
still wish they'd had the balls to actually canonize the NX-01 refit
it was basically a fanfic design designed to help sell a calendar during the wilderness years that Pocket Books pretended was real
aside from using a toy of it in the background of a shot in Picard, it's still fanfic

>>212937428
and yet the ai still did a better job than whoever designed this pile of shite

>>212937620
>I don't get it bros
me neither

>>212937679
Do we know who commanded the refit after the show was over? Maybe there is room for another badass poc female captain.

>>212937852
>another badass poc female captain

>>212937736
Looks like a bar stool.

>>212937565
round secondary hulls are difficult to make even with assisted computer assembly. Each panel will only fit in one spot. If you make everything wide and boxy you could probably stanardize many hull segments.

>>212937736
what the hell is that little turd in the middle?

>>212937818
>Bogs out

>>212937972
The deflector dish getting its juice directly from the warp plasma.

>>212937679
>still wish they'd had the balls to actually canonize the NX-01 refit
It was in the museum in Picard season 3 if you consider NuTrek canon

why is the last season of Enterprise just continuous 2/3 parters? sheesh

>>212937990
Kek I never made the connection. wtf

>>212937620
It's an alternate dimension. It's pretty much stated from the start. It's like the jj verse. They were going to eventually jump to the prime from their future but got cancelled because the show was badly cast, written and structured. The first two seasons were decent but we're slow burns then it fell off.
Strange New Worlds is pretty I'm surprised. I think they will have pike get to the prime universe. He's in the prime until some split happens

>>212937565
I wouldn't even try

>>212938039
They got into trouble with season long arcs and random the captain is stupid episodes, they had a lot of material to finish. They were running out of time so no fuller episodes, it's cheaper to do it that way and people are more likely to see the next episode if it on a cliff have for a little then everyone hates it.

>>212938039
They knew that they were canceled and because that never happened to any ST show after TNG, they felt obligated to bring it to a nice conclusion to honor the fans and the franchise. That meant no filler episodes only the big guns.

>>212937679
It's ugly.

>>212937736
I'd say it's about equal, but it's worse to actually fail like the California class than just AI junk

>>212938039
>why is the last season of Enterprise just continuous 2/3 parters?
Due to budget cuts as it allowed them to reuse sets for 2-3 episodes

>>212937969
Ralph McQuarrie's design was rejected because it was ugly. It was a mistake to revisit it.

So I just got through Obriens Orion Syndicate episode. Even before they intro Section 31, they portray Starfleet Intelligence as being no better than the other intelligence agencies. Would have been a good opportunity to showcase Federation ideals, but nope. They just let Obriens friend get killed because they can't even protect his family on New Sydney. DS9 really was trying to dismantle the franchise huh

>>212937565
>defend this design

>>212937969
>our ships that travel faster than the speed of light without succumbing to the effects of time dilation
>one of our chief concerns is fabricating curved walls

>>212938043
Kang from day of the Dove and Koloth from Trouble with Tribbles also show up in DS9 with Kor.

>>212938243
I actually have the one one the left.

>>212938275
how does it cut your pepperoni?

>>212938257
John Colicos is supremely based

>>212938257
Also Arne Darvin from Trouble with Tribbles/Trials and Tribble-ations.

>>212937679
i don't get why fans are so enamored with this
>take existing ship
>glue secondary hull to it
>"durrr it's fixed this is how it should have been to begin with"

>>212938257
Man I was really not paying attention.

Tony Todd killing it as a Hirogen in the episode "Prey."

>>212937565
High lesbian appeal. Plenty of safe spaces for crying and overeating.

If I had to pick one design of starship to use as my personal space RV, it would be the Miranda class.

>>212938257
Damn you Kang, I hate you.

>>212938712
but it shoots itself

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>>212937679
that's the bit that's annoying. the refit is a fake fanfic design commissioned by a 3rd party. they got the original designer for the NX-01 back to make it but it was still fanfic. Anything the designer says about "oh we were TOTALLY going to do this in season 5" is head canon, late stage Enterprise had the budget of a sitcom for the final season, the network wasn't going to fucking pay for new CG assets and a new engineering set
>>212938018
anon

>>212938712
Beautiful. Good choice.

>>212937736
>"Bro what if we had the nacelles supporting the entirety of the ship"
Someone at Utopia Planitia was having a laugh with this one

>>212938712
Same. In my fanfiction I'm commanding one of these gentle flounders with a crew of young recruits. It's the perfect academy training vessel.

>>212938712
Fair but nothing out comfys the galaxy class. Have you seen their quarters?

>>212938257
Did they ever explain how Kang And The Gang got their ridges back or were we just supposed to pretend they always had them

>>212937380 (OP)
>Constitution refit style saucer
>weird hull that looks like someone sneezed on an Excelsior Class hull
>enterprise d nacelles
This looks like one of the shitty STO abominations you can make

>>212938915
>USS yamato
>gets nuked
a little on the nose Gene

>>212938841
Hell I think "Shran would join as a regular in season 5" is made up too. We have a few basic outlines for proposed 5th season episodes, none of them mention Shran.

>>212939070
I haven't finished s4 but they pretty unambiguously wrote him off. he literally has a line like
>I won't be back

anyway

>Archer hu/mansplaining mind melding to T'Pol
please let this be the final insult I can't take it

>>212938640
7 of 9 in trouble oooh

>Harry Kim makes a remark about penetrating the crust of the asteroid
>I immediately think of that gay meme that was being spammed here a few months ago
this place has ruined me

>>212937620
>>212938045
LD's made them non canon along with the rest of STD, so who cares?

hate s31 and their gay tryhard fetish gear uniforms

this was probably the coolest thing i've ever seen

>>212939156
he comes back

>>212939650
I figured

I just can't get enough of this nigga. Put him in every scene for all I care

>>212937380 (OP)
Did someone say ... Upper Decker?

>>212937620
>wtf is with the Klingons in STD?!
>I don't get it bros.
different races look different on earth, why not with ayys

>>212939866
If you don't mind purple, he had a Lower Deck episode and the writers didn't miss a beat with his characterization.

I find it more plausible that Klingons would find Augment embryos and smash them on the ground and stomp on them with their boots than take them and try to reverse engineer them and pollute perfect Klingon DNA with weak human filth.
>Klingon scientists
pfff please

>>212937620
I still don't love the designs for them but I genuinely can't remember why I hated them as much as I did at the time.
Maybe it's just the fact that later productions went back to something more movie/TNG-y.
>>212937565
It's wild to me that the same show, in the same season, could have both this and the genuinely pretty good reimagined Constitution-class. They redid the sets and uniforms for SNW but the actual exterior of the ship is virtually untouched.
Love the way that it marries the refit's profile with the more TOS lines and styling. I can actually believe this version of the ship could become the connie refit without being a total ground-up same-in-registry-only rebuild.

>>212940018
>If you don't mind purple
only in a universe where section 31 is coordinated by Pussy Control

>>212940132
>pfff please
war needs science to make it work

>>212940201
Prince was anti glowie

>>212940201
It's purple data, not purple rain. But the rain in his reality might be purple.

>>212937736
I like it.
It's not sleek or aerodynamic, it's not intimidating or powerful looking at all.
Instead it's flat and boxy, safe looking, with this weird configuration of the pylons going directly into the saucer, and the engineering section sitting in that weird spot between the nacelles.

It's a great design for a utility vessel instead of a front line exploration vessel.
And it's a great ship for a crew that aren't Starfleet's elite.

Why the hell do I keep getting poked in discord over /trek/? the thread can't be THAT dead, can't it?

>>212940495
/r/equesting a doodle of FAT PHLOX

>>212940279
the Batman (1989) soundtrack is criminally underrated

>>212940495
The thread became an infection point for a discord and its pet janny, so yeah, it can be that dead. Troons coordinating off site to selectively enforce rules with an eye towards preventing or killing discussion tends to make discussion hard to come by.

>>212940018
It was nice seeing classic Data again after all that time.

>that one DS9 episode where O'Brien goes schizo thinking the whole station is out to get him
>last second swerve reveal that O'Brien was a clone and the real O'Brien was offscreen the whole time
It's a good episode but that ending really fucks it over

>>212939481
LDS did not make them non canon. That's a myth. What LDS did do is make the multiverse into canon.

>>212940838
Also LDS is arguably more insulting than STD, so I don't know why anyone would want to cite them. It was weird how the entire Internet came to the same conclusion 10 minutes after the STD Klingons showed up. Felt very astroturfed. Like the Paramount marketing people thought they could score points but didn't know how to actually uncanonize STD because their writers are stupid. I watched LDS. They have a space station at the end with an explicit goal of going into an interdimensional Rick and Morty portal and exploring parallel dimensions.

>>212941043
>They have a space station at the end with an explicit goal of going into an interdimensional Rick and Morty portal and exploring parallel dimensions
Or Sliders, given the Jerry O'Connell connection

>>212940838
>What LDS did do is make the multiverse into canon.
Pretty sure TNG:Parallels did that.

>>212940828
>that ending really fucks it over
how

>>212941074
I was going to mention Parallels but I assumed the "LDS decanonized STD" Paramount plant would have no idea what I was talking about.

>>212941059
Nice catch. I always forget that's Jerry O'Connell. Regardless, citing LDS is retarded. Better to regard all nuTrek as canon than accept some ScreenRant article as some official guide for how you should view Star Trek. It was fucking weird it was so astroturfed

I'm on season 2 of Voyager and between the episode about genetic predisposition to violence and the episode where a woman dies giving birth to her interspecies baby, this might be the most chudcoded I've seen modern Trek be.

>>212941157
**Regard all nuTrek as NOT canon**

>>212941111
I just find the shock reveal of "The O'Brien we saw was a fake but was functionally identical to the real one" makes the episode feel pointless since there's really no good reason for all the duplicity or subterfuge if O'Brien is the fake and everyone else is real.

>>212941182
you missed the point of the episode I fear

>>212941173
Just wait, there's an episode later on where someone quotes per capita crime statistics

>>212941043
>They have a space station at the end with an explicit goal of going into an interdimensional Rick and Morty portal and exploring parallel dimensions
That Section 31 episode was fucking embarrassing. The entire episode was just the writer jerking himself off and using the main character as a strawman for the multiverse haters. In a way it's fitting that a clone of Rick and Morty ended with an attempt to turn Star Trek into Rick and Morty. A multiverse gimmick that people have been tired of for at least five years now.
Lezzie Dykes didn't do anything interesting with the concept, it didn't put a Star Trek spin on it. It was just an excuse to engage in more franchise navel-gazing and spam more memberberries for the mentally challenged audience. They also realized that by turning into everything into a multiverse they don't have to deal with consequences of their writing. So they made Garak and Bashir gay but handwaved it away by saying that they're multiversal variants, because they were too cowardly to actually commit to the idea.

Lezzie Dykes is the most pathetic, most spineless show.

>>212941198
Total Klingger Death

>>212941253
I agree with everything you said and I add on, again, that using LDS to decanonize STD is a subterfuge Paramount attempt to cement LDS as canon. It's the worst of the nuTrek in my opinion.

>>212941302
>that using LDS to decanonize STD
Lezzie Dykes had a crossover with SNW, an STD spin-off. It explicitly referenced the events of STD as TAKNG PLACE in the PAST. It's all Kurtzman's fake Star Trek. I've only seen this theory pushed by Dumbcuck and other grifters.
As long as Secret Hideout is in charge, STD is canon.

>Archer accepts slaves as part of the most obvious scam I've ever heard
good lord

>>212941369
It became such a meme so quickly that it had to have been a ploy of some kind. The anon I replied to even said it as if it was some kind of a fact. I think the best thing to do is just to regard everything post-ENT as non canon.

>>212941497
>that it had to have been a ploy of some kind
A viral marketing stunt by Lezzie Dykes writers. The entire show was designed to be clickbait. That's why they made Garak and Bashir gay because it guaranteed headlines despite them not actually committing to the idea. They did the same thing two seasons earlier when they made the lead character gay in an effort to get those sweet headlines. And it worked.

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>>212941253
I'll always be amused at the fact that the biggest LD haters are the ones who are butthurt that their character ship didn't happen.

Remember when Dukat told Sisko he wanted an Orion slave girl? Would he take this one?

>>212941700
>everyone who dislikes my show is a gay shipper!!!
Silence tranny

>>212941851
>Everyone who disagrees with me is my strawman!
Your mental illness is fascinating, especially since you saved that specific image on your phone to throw temper tantrums.

>>212938712
A cramped bucket with stripped down systems and no amenities? Why?

>>212941700
Could it be that I hate the show because it's bad? Is that even possible to you?

>>212941894
Statistically speaking, it's fair to assume that any Lezzie Dykes fan is a tranny. Including (You).

>>212942078
>Random social media post
>Where you had to specifically search for the terms
>You're projecting as well.
Your self loathing is fascinating, and also comical. I'm more interested in your misogyny and the fact that a one season fling being so offensive to you.

>>212940601
someone commissioned a fat nerd girl a few days ago, told me to give her a nerd shirt of whatever I wanted so I suppose that's... Something?

I have other stuff to draw, ttyl.
>>212940723
Jesus, I stopped dropping by when NuTrek went into overdrive releasing like 5 horrendous episodes at once, I didn't think people would actually try to talk about those here.

>>212941968
Feels more like you're letting your prejudices, pessimism and cynicism getting the better of you. But that's a proud star trek tradition.
Cue the newspaper article over TOS fans having a meltdown over the announcement of the TNG and declaring it wasn't real star trek.
>But this is different this time!
We can all agree Discovery was trash though

>>212940132
We only see the Klingons that choose to go into space and fight. There are all sorts of peaceful, intelligent Klingons that remain home. We saw a little bit of that in LD when Ma'ah returned to being a farmer.

>>212941253
Does it pain you that people that think like you are literally growing old and dying off every day? Pretty soon no one will spew opinions like yours; they'll have literally gone extinct.

Other than McCoy, has there ever been a southerner in all of Star Trek?

Lower Decks was cancelled after only 50 episodes that were only 22 minutes long.

>>212942561
if they had gone any longer they'd have overlapped with Romulus's destruction and no show can do that without looking ridiculous.

>>212942125
I wish I understood half of the stuff you're referencing
Actually no, I'm good
AHAHAHHHA
Fuck NuTrek

>>212942512
yeah

>>212942512
Trip

>>212942078
This is a logical fallacy known as "selecting your data". You look for things that fit your prejudice, and dismiss anything that doesn't. The saddest part it that, being a geezer, there's virtually no chance you can change your behavior. You'll just keep seething until you give yourself a stroke, then you'll waste away in some state-run institution until you contract sepsis and die.

threadly reminder that TNG was considered nuTrek when it was released, and the geezers seethed mightily about it

>>212942670
Keep seething. nutrek is dead, buried, and forgotten about.

Watching season 5 of Voyager
>Once Upon A Time, one of the worst episodes ever
>Followed immediately by Timeless, one of the best episodes ever
Why is Voyager so wildly inconsistent

>>212942729
30 years after it ended people still think about TNG.
1 year after STD ended no one knows what it is.

I'm watching TAS. anyone else?

>>212942423
Do you believe that NuTrek's audience is made up of lively Gen Zers? Nuke truth for ya: it's all geezers. Middle-aged dudes watching shows where Spock sings about getting dumped by a girl. Middle-aged dudes obsessing over cartoon gay couples. Who do you think all these memberberries are for? Do you think zoomers care about some Glup Shitto from a niche TNG episode coming back as a CalArts cartoon?
Young people don't watch Star Trek and they sure as fuck don't watch NuTrek. NuTrek is watched by middle-aged Star Trek fans suffering from sunk cost fallacy. And trannies too, I suppose. But they never cared about Star Trek anyway, they just latched onto because it pandered to them. Alex Kurtzman genuinely thought that those queers would be the next generation of Star Trek fans, without realizing that they never liked Star Trek and quickly moved on from it.

does this ENT mirror episode plot really have no prime niggas in it?

>>212942329
LD really showed the amount of untapped storytelling there is in the star trek universe since we've only used to seeing the best of the best on the flagship of the Federation, or warriors of the Klingon empire seeking battle.
You rarely saw what the crews of the support fleet that do the undesirable, but necessary jobs of star fleet, or the Klingons who do the work like farming.

Honestly, a good work around would be a 'tales of the Federation' or 'tales of the klingon empire', etc series where they just focus on one of these overlooked daily lives for an episode.

>>212942585
The real issue was the Mars being set on fire and the Utopia ship yards being destroyed since if the series continued, it would have hit that point if they go by 1 year = 1 season.

ok, Yesteryear in TAS was a touching episode.

>>212942906
saw it over 6 months ago
Of the 22 episodes 4 are good
I find it funny that Roddenberry's original vision was to have huge ostentatious settings to take advantage of animation where IRL sets couldn't, but they ended up recycling a lot of stock footage and cutting corners in every possibly way anyway.

>>212942918
Not from the main cast, no. It’s just an episode set in the mirror universe. It’s actually one of the better ENT episodes.

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>>212942906
The fact that LD made direct references to TAS made me happy.

>>212943005
That's Star Trek in a nutshell, it gets screwed over hard by lack of budget or other corpo bullshit. I'm more shocked they didn't lean on clip show fillers more often. Bottle shows are also a blessing or curse depending on the writers.

>>212942954
Both the branch point for the 09 movies and then how Picard decided the ramifications should play out basically leave Trek with the same problem as Star Wars' new canon, which is you have these massive landmines from a few works that kind of fuck with everything you might want to write around a certain era.
Romulus, Mars and the shipyards, the synthetic ban, now the day that half of Starfleet became borg and the Enterprise-G being taken, there's a lot of shit to navigate if you want to write something in the post-DS9 era.
The Burn and all that is similar, but far enough forwards that I think it's much easier to ignore.
I think SNW probably has the right idea in canonising the idea that the amount of temporal fuckery going on leaves room for looser interpretations of canon.
I don't think it's sustainable, if any of these series want to be forever franchises as seems to be the current intent, for everyone to have to be locked into strict adherence particularly to the bad decisions.

>>212943241
>millennial writers who think Star Trek should be like Buffy rewriting decades of canon in their image
Nah, fuck off.

>>212943295
>old trek writers were inspired by ww2 movies and old sci fi
>nutrek writers are inspired by buffy
what went wrong?

>>212942906
TAS is almost always a skip for me rewatch wise.

>>212942749
No matter how fervently you wish it so, it's not. This is a hippie flake maneuver known as "wishcasting". Every time you flap your fingers, you out yourself as an aging hippie boomer geezer.

>>212942910
>nuTrek fans don't care about trek
>noooooo nuTrek is garbage REEEEEE
This is a mental illness known as schizophrenia. At best, it's cognitive dissonance and a pathological lack of self-awareness.

i clapped

>>212943241
Star Trek is not nearly as fucked as Star Wars is. Given Star Fleet did recover from the attack, as did the Romulans, even with that short era where they were in a civil war before reunifying. The whole Borg and Changling issue and Enterprise-G are the more annoying things to deal with. But it could be handwaved with some Lower Deck style humor poking fun at the retardation of those situations like they've done with other poor or inconsistent writing in the older series.

Or the fact that Lower Deck ended by leaving a door open for a DS9 series, only instead of a wormhole, it's a portal to different dimensions, which is a good way to streamline the various canons. But it'll greatly depend on the skill of the writers since as you said, it's super easy to fuck it up if you have have everyone on the same page or try to do it by committee, I.E. what happened with the Disney star wars trilogy.

I do like the optimism of TAS.

>killer space cloud
Spock: please don't eat us
cloud: oh okay
>sentient computer takes over the Enterprise
Kirk: why not give being nice a try?
computer: sure okay
>literally Satan the Devil, prince of lies.
Kirk: We'll defend his right to exist just the same.

>>212943005
Filmation is known for extremely low-budget animation. They make the Taft Broadcasting era of Hanna Barbera look like Ralph Bakshi's work.
For example, this is literally the entire Orion-girl dance sequence from the "Time Trap" episode.

>>212944013
Why's the color all fucked up?

>>212943693
>>212943746
dilate

>>212942590
>Doesn't even know what he saved.
Fufufu

>>212937969
Its weird to think about what Star Trek would have become if the Planet of the Titans movie would have been made instead of TMP.

>>212943829
You're right, it's just funny that JJ Abrams personally fucked the canon of both franchises in ways that made them a pain in the ass for people working with them after.

And yeah, ultimately it's all down to the writers and the execution. Disney-era Star Wars somehow gave us Andor despite itself, and S2 of that had to get in a canon fist-fight with Rebels to figure out a way to give Mon Mothma a speech about the Empire that wasn't written to go in the background of a mid-budget CG cartoon aimed at 12 year olds. With enough effort you can get a lot done even with that stuff working against you.

>>212938712
That design is one of the best goofs in Trek history, it was originally designed upside down.

>>212944087
Compared to what? That's what my copy of TAS looks like. It's a DVD rip.

>>212944115
And this is known as pathetic deflection.
By chance, your name isn't Frank, is it? 36 years old, lives on the 38th floor of a decrepit apartment tower in a bad part of Chicago?

>>212944740
Compared to what I'm seeing, this is why webms suck.

>>212944013
Weren't they also working on an extremely small budget and under time constraint?

>>212945034
Does not look like that to me.

>>212945034
Wow. That's pretty bad. I make my webm videos with the vp9 codec. How up to date is your vp9 codec?

>>212938712
If you went on a walk where you visited every room and area of the ship, how long would it take you to see everything?

>>212944784
Everyone is your imaginary enemy and I'M the schizo?

>>212945130
It should be working, maybe it's a firefox thing.

>>212945034
For the record, mine looks like this.

>>212945172
Well, either you're Frank, or you share an amazingly similar set of psychological pathologies. I guess I just really hoped the odds of that were low.

Is it a running gag that Chakotay always gets fucked over when it comes to women? I'm starting to feel bad for the guy
>Love interest forgets he exists
>Love interest is actually an alien wearing human skin that wants to attack Earth
>Love interest will be erased from existence after he changes history

Betazoid intelligence MILF breaking your neck with her thick thighs.

>>212945269
This is what calarts flash animation does to your brain.

>>212945380
This is what seething about a commercial entertainment franchise does to your brain.

>>212945204
Yeah, it's screwed up on my end, I'm sure if I run it through something else it will work, but this is why
It's why I don't care for webms

>>212943007
yeah it was pretty good. mirror Archer was hilarious

>>212938712
For me, it's the Oberth

Counter point, Barnes and T'Lyn

>>212945705
I never liked the design where you have to travel through the struts to reach engineering, or the Warp Nacelles being that close to the rest of the ship.
How did they even decide on that?

No one else cares about your Family Guy stuff except you dude

I love how smug he is about enjoying this garbage like somehow him being the only one talking about it proves WE are the minority

>>212945805
Does a turbo lift cabin even fit through there? Maybe it's more like a ladder/stairs thing

>>212945908

>>212938712

>>212945805
That bugged me, and the other thing that bugged me about Star Trek 3 is the Klingon Bird of Prey does not have warp nacelles. It has disruptor cannons on the ends of the wings where the warp nacelles should be. Then there is some small parts on the back of the main hull that they say are the warp nacelles, but they are way too small compared to other Klingon and Federation nacelles at the time.

>>212946088
I always thought they had to beam to the lower hull.

>>212946116
I was curious how damaging the warp nacelle would cause main engineering to blow up too.

>>212946134
we have a warp field geometry expert here

>>212945908
Next he'll start posting his shitty AI webms I'm sure

>>212946167
Not in Kirk's era. The transporter wasn't used for convenience, and I doubt that even in Picard's time no one would casually beamed upstairs because it's more convenient.

>>212946167
>>212946088
If it's like the Cali class, the turbolifts can go diagonally through the strut and then vertically to reach Engineering.

>>212946289
as long as it requires someone else to operate it it would never be more "convenient" than walking yourself

>>212946134
The wings are the warp nacelles.

>>212939916

Divorce trek

>>212938712
You know what I'm surprised that wasn't done sooner? Color coding the ships in support class to more easily identify what their main field was.

>>212947043
At the distance between stuff in space, I doubt anyone really sees a real ship through a window very often. Everything is over sensors.

>>212947150
Still makes it easier in certain situations. I.E you need to ship medical supplies to one of them in space dock and there's multiple of the same class there. Do you go through the trouble have looking up the name and registration of the ship you need, or do you just find the one with a blue paint job looking out the window?
Also it's more for the viewers benefit.
Yes, they didn't do it sooner because it would cost too much money to repaint the models, but we're CG now, can't be that hard.

I am spiritually retarded.

>>212947043
>Red painted ships always get destroyed

>>212947286
Wouldn't it be yellow painted ships now?

>>212947229
I could see the Federation wanting to clearly mark hospital ships, at least when at peace or fighting enemies more inclined towards respecting laws-of-war type treaties.
Clear demarcation of their behind-the-lines ships could also help with trust when it comes to the issue of the Federation not (usually) building warships, but having classes for ostensibly other roles outfitted more than well enough to compete with the dedicated warships of other powers.
A clearer indicator as to the job of the ships making regular runs to your planet after first contact, or swarming somewhere after a natural disaster or whathaveyou might help diffuse that a little.

>>212947250

>>212941851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYu7ser4-5o

>>212945705
All I think of when i see that ship are those fucking pink chairs.

>>212948311
I'd be more worried about the mortality rate of David's science teams, between Reglius 1 and the Grissom, only his mom survived.

>In the voyager episode “one” the 29th century drone says he has to die because the Borg will never stop hunting voyager now that it knows he exists
Wouldn’t they just assume he’s alive and hunt them anyway?

>>212948637
cant apply human logic, he probly ran algos or somethin

>>212948311
>Alright, we just need to stick some of these plastic cartons that serve no function to the wall...and we're done

>>212948868
Bet their air vents

>>212948159
>talk about your favorite trek for 20 something minutes
>say nothing about the actual show
I don't think this guy actually likes Star Trek.

>>212949788
i bet your write

>>212943693
>aging hippie boomer geezer
That, right there, is some pure seething anger.

>>212941173
The Doctor is the first one to roll his eyes at races, like Klingons being violent for example. But on at least 2 occasions I remember him calling other people racist.

>>212940018
I just realized this was after Nemesis, so Data was considered KIA at the time in the LDS reality
That makes more sense in why they wanted purple Data to stay.

>>212950757
Bump for.coffee

>>212938712
Nebula>Miranda>Akira

For me, its the Enterprise-J

>Let's make the worst looking ships we can and 'attach' nacells with some invisible force. That'll be cool.

>>212952054
It does look j ish

>>212946786
Comfy

>>212945582
The colorspace says it's yuv422p; I can try setting it to yuv420p in future videos, and see what happens.

>>212945836
You can continue your wishcasting, but you just make yourself look like a cranky old geezer.
>>212945908
And now you literally declare that the mob must be right because they have larger numbers in this limited space. You're a bully and a tyrant.
>>212946214
Without those, this thread dies.

>still talking about a canceled 50 episode cartoon that couldnt even get 100k views on free youtube

>>212945836

>>212938917
Yes, humans were mogging the Klingons in battle strategy so the Klingons decided to fuck around with their DNA to become more human. Warriors then volunteered for genetic therapy only to figure out later that the whole idea was a disaster, so over time, they had to reverse the genetic damage.

You can thank Enterprise writers for this nonsense shit ass explanation.

>>212953757
Thanks ent

>>212953757
That is not the explanation. At the very end Antaak says he's gonna go into facial reconstruction. There's no genetic solution to get your ridges back. At least not in Enterprise

>>212937736
To be fair, the California was meant to be a TNG version of the Ptolemy, which was already a kind of ugly ship.
I still find the way LD renders them makes them look much sexier than they would appear as a psychical model.

>>212953757
the explanation very good, especially considering every other show was afraid to try. they were experimenting with gene edits and accidentially infected a ton of klingons with a human augment virus. phlox stablized it and klingons and it was completely erradicated sometime in the next 200 years. we dont really need an explanation for the tos klingons getting their ridges back in ds9. either they went back to normal when the virus was cured or they got surgery. makes absolutely no difference because the ds9 writers were too cowardly to try to explain it.

>>212953627
and then he plays the victim role and acts like he's being oppressed on 4chan dot org
ferengi like behavior

All they had to do was pull a B'Elanna Torres and say the human looking Klingons were quarter-breed rape babies that the Klingon Empire used underhandedly as thug pirates since they had no honor by default. Then those who proved themselves would be allowed to surgically alter themselves to avoid scorn in proper Klingon society.

>>212953663

>>212953940
they didn't have to do anything. i really did not need them to pull some bullshit out of their ass to justify 1960s tv show makeup limitations.

>>212954022
that would have been fine but the shitty ds9 writers couldnt resist calling attention to it so an explanation was needed.

>>212954112
bitch you better not be talking about the trials and tribble-ations. that was not CALLING ATTENTION that demanded an explanation. it was literally a little joke in a fanservice episode. shut up retard.

>>212953940
thats the opposite of what they were though, they were high ranking warlords. empire sent its best for kirk.

>>212954146
they asked why the old klingons didnt have ridges. worf refused to explain. this means there is an explanation and its not just an artifact of TOS budget.

>>212954184
the most plausible explanation ive seen is that they put the infected on the front lines because they couldnt go home. this can also explain why most of the film klingons have prominent ridges, they never got infected

>>212953627
>still talking about a series that was cancelled after 2 seasons, then when the fans clamored for a 3rd season, they were rewarded with "spock's brain"

>The adventures of the NX-01 were so abhored by Starfleet that it took 100 years until they named another ship Enterprise.

>>212954193
There is no plausible in-universe explanation. It was solely due to budget limitations and advancements in makeup technology. Stop pretending that your commercial entertainment franchise is consistent or well thought out, and just enjoy a campy sci-fi/fantasy romp.

>>212938915

TOS became a worldwide phenomenon
Alll Trek & Morty has is a very small niche fanbase of dudes who paint themselves green and say they're a girl

>>212954193
babe, the show can't have the characters reference the fact that it's a tv show. of course it's an artifact of the budget and limitations of the time. and other factors like as budget and technology progressed there was no reason to have aliens look basically exactly the same as humans and they had more creative freedom. having Worf say what everyone already fucking knew that yes, they are Klingons and no, it was never explained why they looked different is not a demand for someone to make up something stupid in the future. it's tongue in cheek fanservice. holy autism.

>>212942512
Sisko.

ATTENTION CUTE WHITE BOYS

>>212954475
ATTENTION FEMALE ASTRONAUTS OH VERY FEMALE ASTRONAUTS

>>212954475
ADRENALINE

>>212954344
Here's your "worldwide phenomenon" >>212953958

>>212954542
yes and?

>>212954542
Yes, something getting a sketch on SNL is a good hint at it being a worldwide phenomenon

Don't worry, anon, I'm sure they'll be doing skits about Lower Decks' and other CalArts trash on SNL in no time!

>>212954556
Your "worldwide phenomenon" is a cringy nerd fest of arrested development sufferers. You truly lack self-awareness.

>>212954331
Why does god need a starship?

I love this point you're trying to prove about absolutely nothing that even matters. So much bitterness and hatred, over what? Some silly cartoon?

>>212954581
you're obsessed with a failed cartoon no-one watched, what was that about self awareness you were saying?

>>212954573
Yet Andrew Robertson was willing to appear in it with only holier than thou Shatner refusing and whining.
Curious.

>>212954629
>Andrew Robertson
Who?

>>212954629
>oh no Bill Shatner had standards and turned down an easy paycheck!!!!

>>212954637
that guy from dirty harry and hellraiser

>>212954581
Cool go make a nutrek thread and see how that goes instead of cope posting in the /trek/ thread faggot lol

>>212954661
god you're embarrassing

>>212954629
you try and use shanter to make your case then start shitting on shatner for not liking your shitty failed cartoon, bold strategy lets see how it plays out

>>212954683
oh i didnt even read all the way through his misspelling or your quote of it

>>212954675
SNW premiere day thread had only 3 replies before it fell off page 10

>>212954573
SNL died decades ago. I don't even remember the last time I went out of my way to watch it. You're such a boomer, it's kind of scary.

>>212954629
>Andrew Robertson
The average Trek knowledge level of the Nu Trek shill truly is impressive

>>212954684
>this guy who hates star trek fans because as evidenced by an snl skit really hates my nutrek tranny cartoon so much he wouldn't even participate
And then lower decks died lol

>>212954710
ok and what does that have to do with shanter appearing on it at its height?

>>212954656
>>212954684
>He has standards!
>When American Psycho 2 exists

>>212954626
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that LD is "failed"...I don't care. I enjoyed it, I re-watch it, and what other people think of it is completely irrelevant to me, because I'm not a hopeless conformist follower. Try thinking for yourself, sheep.
>>212954675
>hurr durr go make a thread on 4chan, gawrsh this thread is so relevant
You are a sad, bitter, broken little manlet.

>>212954291
My headcanon is that Chang was one of the last infected Klingons since he had almost none of the updated Klingon features.

>>212954710
There are SNL skits in about Star Trek in the 70s, 80s, and 90s

Yours was from the 80s, pic related is from the 90s, and the classic Jim Belushi as Kirk skits are unforgettable from the original cast run in the 70s.
What a cultural phenomenon! The Shatman surely is famous.

>>212954637
He played the Kardashian hairdresser Alan Jared on Dark Space Eight, alongside Colin Mathews and Nonna Traveler.

lmao this is pathetic, no-one watched your cartoon no-one cares about your cartoon your insane obsession with spamming it does nothing but make you look more and more pathetic each and every thread.

>>212938018
Canon ended in 2005

>>212954732
Who the hell is Shanter, you illiterate brainlet?

>>212954747
>shatner would rather do American Psycho 2 than shit on star trek by appearing the abomination known as lower decks
You're so close to.understanding lol

>>212954762
Wow looks like there was an SNL Trek shit in the 00s too

Four decades of Trek appearing on SNL!
That'll never happen for any of your trash! Unfortunate!

>>212954781
he's good friends with andrew robertson

>>212938039
I liked it

>>212954772
kek. keep going

>>212954773
>hurr durr i can't wait to conform mindlessly to other people's opinions, you're wrong if you don't
What did that sound like in your head before you typed it?

>>212954795

>>212954794
That he has no dignity? He really needs to learn to relax.

>>212954757
>what other people think of it is completely irrelevant to me, because I'm not a hopeless conformist follower. Try thinking for yourself, sheep.
And yet here you are, having a meltdown over Lezzie Dykes because no one else likes it but you.

Did you know: The episode of Star Trek Voyager "The Thaw" was based off what will happen to 4chan users if the servers are not shutdown?

>>212938712
>blows up

Its my opinion you idiot, now I'm going to go back to discussing star trek and filtering your inane nonsense about some crap cartoon, continue to shout into the void

>>212954837
I know.

>>212954837
I'm almost up to that ep I think im going to skip it unless anyone can give me a good reason not to, keep in mind I have sen it once when it aired and all i remember about it is its super annoying.

>>212937380 (OP)
>short nacelles
No. Fucking. Thank. You.

Post yfw that retard typed "Andrew Robertson" and exposed himself for not knowing shit about Star Trek

>>212954924

>>212954799
which one did you like da best?
we got
>nazis
>augments
>even more vulcan slander
>journey to babel/amok time mashup
>klingon augments
>mirror

and one I haven't seen yet. i have 3 episodes left.

>>212952078
Man, that's ugly as fuck.
I keep finding out shit about STD that makes me hate it even more.
I'm happy i dropped it early in the second season.

>>212954293
TOS runtime is over 65 hours. lower drecks is barely 25

>>212954762
>This was considered disgustingly obese and nerdy in the 1990s
>Now it’’s every third person at Walmart

>>212954325
if theres no explanation then they wouldnt have noticed the difference. they did notice so there is an explanation. and the explanation is the human augment virus.

>>212954995
I liked them all.

>>212954894
Rewatch it as an adult. Yes, it is still annoying but that is the idea.
The circus(Clown World) is fun for a bit, but you don't want to be stuck in a perpetual circus with the carnies(clowns) in charge of everything.
It's still not the best Episode, it is a Voy epi after all, BUT I do think there is a certain charm to it. It actually "feels" like a ToS episode.

>>212955084
no favorite? that's weird but valid I suppose.

>>212954347
in universe the klingons change appearance. characters comment on it on screen. you are wrong. there is an explanation and it is the human augment virus

so whats say we talk about star trek now that the nu-faggot has failed miserably once again? how about who got it worse Harry "I never got a promotion" Kim or Geordi "I never got a gf" la'forge?

>>212955073
Libertarianism, not even once.

>>212938039
>>212954799
it was objectively the correct choice because s4 is fantastic. minimal stinkers.

>>212954995
aside from terra prime which is best. love the archer shran duel and the picrel but the vulcan arc is my fantastic (and dumb). they did ANOTHER 9/11 and soval is kino.

>>212954758
i have the same thought.

I like how ENT fleshes out the Klingons just a little bit more, something DS9 touched upon, that not everyone is a warrior and there are doctors, lawyers, and just plain civilians too who find glory in their own way besides killing.

>>212955100
hmm, ok good enough I'll try it its been so long I don't remember the resolution so theirs that, threshold on the other hand will be another skip that episode is burned into my brain in the worst possible way

>>212955131
my fantastic and dumb second favorite*

>>212955115
You can't promote Harry because he'll go insane.

>>212955131
soval being a good guy really took some wind out of my sails. i was invested in hating him lol

>>212954995
last is the best of all of them.
i like them all but its really a shame they werent spread out over 3 more seasons

>>212955154
One of my favorite daydreams is to imagine mundane jobs in fantastical universes. So there are Klingon accountants and janitors who eck out their own living.

>>212954894
>>212955100
The Thaw is actually one of the best VOY eps but not so much for its dumb premise. It is actual visual kino and Janeway gives a pretty great performance opposite Clown Chuck. The ending is great and also hints at her horrible cruelty due to space madness

>>212955154
>Klingon Lawyers
Your legal work has no honor!

>>212955205
I like martoks secretary old sarcastic bastard

>>212955115
geordi got some from aquiel. kim woulr have been promoted immediately after they got back. i think geordi has it worse because he sticks with picard for another 10 years and misses out on brahms like he was supposed to in all good things

>>212955306
Leah was married and all of the alternate futures and fanfics where her and Geordi hook up come off as creepy

>>212955326
geordi is creepy

>>212955334
Geordi means well but comes off as creepy because he can’t put down the technobabble. Getting cucked by Data in the third episode sealed his fate as the Ent-D’s lolcow.

>>212955334
I remember there was a novel where her husband is killed and Geordi goes
>suh-weeet!

>Hated Ent when I was younger, REALLY disliked the fucking intro song.
>It's 20 years later, and I now think Ent is actually great and the god damned intro song brings a twinge of nostalgia everytime I hear it. I've even grown the like the overly happy white guy with an acoustic guitar song.

>>212954995
Nazis was my least favorite.

I don’t like season long stories because it’s not very rewatchable.

Anyone got the Vince Mcmahan Jeffery combs meme?

>>212955306
janeway could've promoted him any time paris got demoted and then promoted back to lieutenant its not like it would break regulations to have another lieutenant, I think it was just a private joke between janeway and chakotay
>kathy so I have some ideas for the crew Ensign Kims been doing some fine work how about we give him that promotion he's always asking for?
take a beat
>they both start laughing their asses off
>ok ok lets get down to some real work now

>>212955398
sure

>>212955398
I hated the nazi bits but the gangsters are hilarious. I wish they had murdered daniels and the time war and it was just kooky time travel shenanigans though.

>>212955398
yeah the nazi one was really weak. that Alicia girl or whatever her name was was kind of a bad actress. here ya go

>>212955406
real world reason is that garrett wang was a huge diva and the producers hated that

>>212955430
>>212955442
Thanks bros. Saving it this time

its new
>>212955451

>>212955447
I know that example still happened but it was between berman and braga

>>212940201
>Pussy Control
Fuck that's a deep cut and I lol'd, thank you

>>212954757
Yeah go make your own thread faggot. Why would you want to spam a general.that does nothing but endlessly shit on or ignore you and your retarded tastes? Is the negativity induced dopamine really worth it?

>>212955406
Janeway being a genocidal and a rabid bitch to everyone around her is one of the best memes and I really hope the hack writers never try to integrate it into the canon.

>Let's not turn this simple trade into a genocide. Just hand over the Coffee.

>>212954331
A gaudy all-gold Galaxy looks like the sort of skin you would see someone slather onto their STO ship.