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Anonymous No.212941878 >>212941933 >>212941991 >>212942016 >>212942061 >>212942111 >>212942123 >>212942124 >>212942144 >>212942178 >>212942206 >>212942317 >>212942466 >>212942818 >>212943151 >>212943280 >>212943337 >>212943557 >>212943665 >>212943962 >>212944349 >>212944427 >>212944528 >>212945307 >>212946252 >>212947983
Watching this for the first time
Were people fans of this movie when it played in theaters? I'm not enjoying it.
Anonymous No.212941933
>>212941878 (OP)
Many people were not and it did not perform as expected. The dropoff from opening weekend to second weekend was huge
Anonymous No.212941991
>>212941878 (OP)
> Were people fans of this movie when it played in theaters?

No
Anonymous No.212942016
>>212941878 (OP)
No, it was more or less ridiculed
Anonymous No.212942061
>>212941878 (OP)
Who the fuck is this?
Anonymous No.212942111 >>212942129 >>212942203 >>212943963
>>212941878 (OP)
No, it was mocked. Many media outlets said it was β€œthe Trump of superhero movies” (not even trolling).
Anonymous No.212942123
>>212941878 (OP)
if only we knew how much worse things can get
Anonymous No.212942124
>>212941878 (OP)
It's pacing was fucked making it feel longer than it actually is sometimes. It was crammed with content solely to set up the aveng- Justice league. It's direction was more focused on creating cinematic shots instead of directing the actors to emote. It's story makes absolutely no sense while you're watching it, letalone think about it for more than 5 seconds. Zack Snyder does not understand the basic characters personalities and simply wants to make things edgy(I fucking hate that word but that's really what it is) simply because he's got this frat boy college drop out mentality of what a "dark" version of a superhero story should look like. Had he watched a few of the animated DC projects he'd have seen that it's already been done, and much better animated than ever could get portrayed in real life. It wasn't all bad though. There were a few positives in the movie

>Batfleck
>Jeremy irons as Alfred
>Warehouse scene
>The memes that came from Jesse Eisenbergs lex portrayal
Anonymous No.212942129 >>212942167
>>212942111
Some right wing news outlets even called it the "Obama of movies" not trolling either.
Anonymous No.212942144 >>212943152
>>212941878 (OP)
it made me not like man of steel
Anonymous No.212942167 >>212942203 >>212942538 >>212942698 >>212942737 >>212943392
>>212942129
I’ve never seen that headline even once
Anonymous No.212942178
>>212941878 (OP)
The ultimate edition was never released in theaters although the issues people had with it were more fundamental. It’s able to age well now thanks the the countless slop of today.
Anonymous No.212942203 >>212943757
>>212942167
>>212942111
Your "quote" is nowhere to be seen either. So he's just as accurate as you.
Anonymous No.212942206
>>212941878 (OP)
Nah, most people called it out as the edgy 15 years old garbage it was.
Anonymous No.212942272
it's kino
Anonymous No.212942317
>>212941878 (OP)
It filtered plebs who were expecting typical capeshit
Anonymous No.212942350
i personally havent seen it and to be honest couldn't tell you the year it came out. i'd guess 2018
Anonymous No.212942438
It was called The Last Jedi of superhero films
Anonymous No.212942466 >>212942542 >>212942567 >>212942775
>>212941878 (OP)
>were people fans of this movie
no, almost everybody thought it was terrible and mocked it for being retarded. this place is the only place I've ever seen people passionately defend it as some misunderstood masterpiece. this board is like bizarro world.
Anonymous No.212942530 >>212942704
This is obviously a bait thread, but the version that played in theatres was the butchered theatrical cut. The extended cut, like Kingdom of Heaven's director's cut, was broadly better received.

The general reception of BvS mirrors Batman Returns, the film that got Tim Burton fired from the series for being too dark and bleak and unsuitable for kids.
Anonymous No.212942538 >>212942698
>>212942167
Never knew about this but it explains so much about the broader Snyderverse conversation
Anonymous No.212942542
>>212942466
translation: the average person is an NPC with opinions indistinguishable from the crowd, whereas you can find more nuance on /tv/
Anonymous No.212942567
>>212942466
>no, almost everybody thought it was terrible and mocked it for being retarded. this place is the only place I've ever seen people passionately defend it as some misunderstood masterpiece.
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.212942573 >>212942671 >>212942865
It's my favorite movie with Superman in it but it's not a very good Superman movie.
Reviews upon release were pretty unanimous about it being a 5/10. If you like Shadow the Hedgehog you'll love it.
Anonymous No.212942671
>>212942573
>It's my favorite movie with Superman in it but it's not a very good Superman movie.
That's my feeling about MoS. Although I think it's pretty accurate to Golden Age Superman, and to an extent the Fleischer era. Just not to the "big blue boyscout" version that so many people have in their minds.
Craig T. Nelson No.212942698 >>212942777 >>212943171
>>212942167
>>212942538
Wow, truly eye opening revelation. Thank you for posting these headlines. It makes so much sense now. The media hates Snyder, Christians and white people.
Anonymous No.212942704 >>212942781
>>212942530
He wasn't fired, he quit Batman Forever because the studio was putting their foot down about a lighter tone and forcing Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face (we were supposed to get Billy Dee Williams turning into him at the end of Returns but WB wanted him out of the series so bad they paid him NOT to be in the movie). Burton could have directed it if he wanted to but that's where he decided on the no sequels rule that lasted up until Beetlejuice 2 since he realized any studio that greenlights a sequel is going to be overly involved in it. Keaton wasn't fired either, he quit because he didn't want anyone else directing him as Batman.
Anonymous No.212942737
>>212942167
So just like gamergate, trying to cancel regular people, but we won in the long run.
Anonymous No.212942775 >>212942792 >>212942805 >>212942865
>>212942466
Good thing Snyder already confirmed he's an absolute garbage director (see Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon, 100% directed by him btw) and it's defenders contrarians that don't know about cinema.
Anonymous No.212942777 >>212942825
>>212942698
>The media hates Snyder, Christians and white people.
yes
Anonymous No.212942781
>>212942704
You're correct, anon, but it could be seen as him being pushed out because he wouldn't play ball. Keaton also noped out because Burton wasn't coming back and he wanted nothing to do with the lighthearted, more kid-oriented movie WB wanted to make.
Anonymous No.212942792 >>212942874 >>212943055
>>212942775
You could just watch watchmen or man of steel to see that Snyder is a bad director.
Anonymous No.212942805
>>212942775
BvS was included in the /film/ mega chart, if you knew about cinema you'd know this
Anonymous No.212942818 >>212943017
>>212941878 (OP)
No. That's why no one went the next weekend. Word got out that it sucked.
Also: MAARRTHAA
Craig T. Nelson No.212942825
>>212942777
It's white genocide
Anonymous No.212942865
>>212942573
I do want to point out that the theatrical cut is completely incoherent. Unfortunately discussion of the film is contaminated by all the people who have only seen the theatrical cut.
>>212942775
Army of the Dead is fine. Not amazing. Not terrible. Rebel Moon is a mess. But plenty of good directors make misfires sometimes.
Anonymous No.212942874 >>212942908 >>212942997 >>212943055 >>212943891
>>212942792
Explain how this scene is a bad adaptation of the comic scene it was based on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEspFZCmmA
Anonymous No.212942908 >>212943064
>>212942874
>let's cherry pick
>ignore all the things that are blatantly terrible because Snyder is the director
Stay mad
Anonymous No.212942997 >>212943055 >>212943064
>>212942874
Don't talk about Watchmen if you haven't read the comic.
Anonymous No.212943017 >>212943225 >>212944959 >>212946527
>>212942818
>That's why no one went the next weekend.
Why are people so fixated on the disowned theatrical release? You never see debate around Blade Runner framed in terms of its theatrical cut that performed poorly in theatres. You never see people talk about how Kingdom of Heaven got a B- CinemaScore and was seen as a huge disappointment, only to be reclaimed after the director's cut released. Why are people so fixated on the shitty chopped up cut when the director's cut released a mere three months later? Over and over again, people can't stop bringing up its theatrical performance. The writer disowned the theatrical cut. We got the "real" cut 3 months later. So why the fuck do people still cling to the completely irrelevant theatrical cut?

The fanbase that BvS has only watches the director's cut. The cult fandom of the film is entirely built around that cut. Same with Blade Runner. Same with KoH.

Remember the iconic western Once Upon a Time in the West? Paramount released a heavily shorted cut in US theatres that bombed. But you don't see a single person today criticizing the film because it had a butchered theatrical cut disowned by the filmmakers. This refusal to acknowledge that BvS's theatrical cut was fucked and didn't represent the film is fairly unique.
Anonymous No.212943055
>>212942792
Watchmen and Man of Steel are masterpieces, though.
>>212942874
>>212942997
Fuck the source material. No real director ever gave a shit about comic books or the complaints of sexless nerds.
Anonymous No.212943064
>>212942997
I have, that's the problem.
>>212942908
>>let's cherry pick
Seems to me like you're cherry picking. But by all means keep pretending we're talking about Wiseau here.
Anonymous No.212943151
>>212941878 (OP)
I remember liking it, and my friend who is also a fan of these characters not liking it, or rather being confused by it, It boils down to personal preference. I don't think anyone expected to see what they did though.
Anonymous No.212943152 >>212943214
>>212942144
Really? Man of Steel made me not like Man of Steel.
Anonymous No.212943171
>>212942698
I think the actor Craig T. Nelson would be ashamed of the shit you post under his name, chud.
Anonymous No.212943204 >>212943243 >>212943276 >>212943332
Snyderjeets
>release the Sneedcut! Respect the source material and the director's vision!
Also Snyderjeets
>fuck your source material! Who cares if he completely missed the point and didn't understand it?
Anonymous No.212943214 >>212943289
>>212943152
Why didn't you like Man of Steel? It's an amazing film. And my God, what a soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dl3mDidys
Anonymous No.212943225 >>212943384 >>212946937
>>212943017
Holy shit, dude. If they couldn't make a decent movie for when it was released they dropped the ball.
OP asked if people liked it THEN. They didn't.

Who the fuck cares about the incel community who rallied around it LATER because of their silly sociopolitical identities??

You will never have sex. Get a life outside of SnyderDC, will ya?
Anonymous No.212943243
>>212943204
The source material varies a lot desu. I think it's fairly close to a lot of the depictions. Even Lex Luthor was quite similar to his Golden Age version, but the character peaked much later in the comics.
Anonymous No.212943276
>>212943204
You seem to be confused about how movies work. The purpose of a director's cut is to see the director's vision brought to life. It isn't to see some nebulous "source material" bought to life.

Source material is not, nor will ever, be relevant to the discussion.
Anonymous No.212943280 >>212943308
>>212941878 (OP)
The soifacing crowd disliked it, but who gives a fuck about them?
Anonymous No.212943289 >>212943318 >>212943423 >>212943803
>>212943214
>god

What's with you people? 4chan is NOT for you. "Amazing film"... lol, compared to what? It was dark and violent shit. It wasn't a Superman movie. Condolences, Ranjeep!
Anonymous No.212943308 >>212943348
>>212943280
Shareholders actually.
Anonymous No.212943318
>>212943289
>complains about a PG film being "too dark and violent"
>4chan is NOT for you
NTA but is this bait?
Anonymous No.212943332
>>212943204
Let me put it simply for you. When people talk about the director's cut of Blade Runner, they do not give a single shit about the book Blade Runner is based on. Why should they? The book is irrelevant. They want to see something closer to Ridley Scott's vision for the film, less diluted by compromise.

Nobody cares if you think Ridley Scott "missed the point" of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
Anonymous No.212943337
>>212941878 (OP)
only retarded mutts and pajeets
Anonymous No.212943348 >>212943572
>>212943308
And I should care about corporate suits because?
Anonymous No.212943384 >>212943614 >>212946937
>>212943225
>Holy shit, dude. If they couldn't make a decent movie for when it was released...
Welcome to the wonderful world of studio interference.
Anonymous No.212943392 >>212944082
>>212942167
All of this is literally predicated on the fact that the characters weren't emasculated and were allowed to act and look like men. That's it. That's what makes it "right leaning" to these people.
Anonymous No.212943423 >>212943631
>>212943289
>"Amazing film"... lol, compared to what?
Compared to pretty much any other film that explores the impact on 9/11 on the American psyche through the allegory of alien visitors.
>It was dark and violent
Are you trying to complain about that?
>It wasn't a Superman movie.
How do you figure, given it's the best Superman movie?
Anonymous No.212943518 >>212943677 >>212944967 >>212947937
Forget Snyder. When are the pussies at Screen Gems gonna release the director's cut of Paul W.S. Anderson's RE Retribution? (Interestingly, BvS has a bunch of references to this film. Makes sense because even the butchered theatrical cut is amazing.)

The DC was almost ready for release, but Screen Gems changed their minds about releasing on Blu Ray back in 2012, which caused quite a bit of behind the scenes drama. Editor Niven Howie and director Paul W.S. Anderson have both claimed that the director's cut was a far superior, less spoon fed movie that scared the studio because it was purposefully confusing. The whole point was that the audience would be wondering what was going on for the first half, and then it would all make sense by the end. The studio didn't like this because they felt that the audience had to be spoon fed the plot every step of the way.
Anonymous No.212943557
>>212941878 (OP)
No, it was not well received upon its release. The extended edition is much better, but it’s still not a great movie. Zack Snyder has good ideas, but he should have never been given the job to run their DC films. Honestly I think he’s a hack, but he has his moments where his credit is due. When I saw it in theaters the crowd cheered for Wonder Woman’s reveal.
Anonymous No.212943572 >>212943616
>>212943348
You shouldn't. You asked who cares that people disliked it. I answered you. You DID want more Snyder flicks, right?
Well, the fact that only a few sexless manchildren celebrated the franchise meant that they chose another direction. That's why Gunn is in and you are mad. lol
Do you understand how selling tickets works, incel?
Anonymous No.212943614 >>212943767
>>212943384
So there will surely be a James Gunn 'Director's Cut' of Superman. Since no one is expected to get it right the first time around.
I'm still waiting on all the Wes Anderson director's cuts myself.
Anonymous No.212943616 >>212943718
>>212943572
I hope those studio heads see this bro, maybe they'll throw you a few shekels for defending their honor
Anonymous No.212943631 >>212943806
>>212943423
>explores the impact on 9/11 on the American psyche through the allegory of alien visitors.

LMAO
Anonymous No.212943665
>>212941878 (OP)
It's retroactively based for making people seethe to an illogical extent that is not rooted in reality.
Anonymous No.212943677 >>212943692 >>212943843
>>212943518
You're nerding out over terrible shit movies, lol. No one cares about Paul W.S. Anderson. You'll be waiting a long time for that.
Anonymous No.212943692 >>212943748
>>212943677
NTA but Paul W.S. Anderson has made at least 2 kinos
Anonymous No.212943718 >>212943769
>>212943616
Sure, schizo. That's whose side I'm on. I'm also a jewish tranny libcuck because anyone who doesn't pretend Snyderverse was "based" hates whites and their lord.
ROFL
Anonymous No.212943748 >>212943803 >>212943991 >>212944097
>>212943692
It's Paul THOMAS Anderson you mean. We don't watch videogame movies here. You probably also love celebrated auteur Len Wiseman. lol
Anonymous No.212943757
>>212942203
His quote was
>the Trump of superhero movies
The actual quote in his image is
>The Donald Trump of Comic-Book Movies
This is the same functional concept, so he is accurate. Only the most autistic idiots would try to semantically argue he is wrong, because they would be easily recognised as a retard.
Anonymous No.212943761 >>212943824 >>212943834
It was actually pretty well received here in India. Not sure about anywhere else.
Anonymous No.212943762
Ever since I learned about Snyder's plans about cucking Superman, I just can imagine someone defending his vision lol
Anonymous No.212943767
>>212943614
>So there will surely be a James Gunn 'Director's Cut' of Superman.
James Gunn had complete creative control over that film. He runs the fucking studio.
Anonymous No.212943769 >>212944102
>>212943718
>That's whose side I'm on
Clearly. All you're interested in is box office returns and popular opinion because you're too afraid to have your own. If Snyder's movies were the "in" thing right now you'd be all over it.
Anonymous No.212943803
>>212943748
>We don't watch videogame movies here
Wtf is with this "we" shit? Are you the same faggot from here >>212943289
Anonymous No.212943806 >>212944141
>>212943631
Man of Steel is entirely about what Superman means in a world redefined by the trauma of 9/11, which sent the globe into a spiral of fear it has not recovered from, pushing us into a so-called "low trust" society around the world driven by fear and self-interest.
Anonymous No.212943824
>>212943761
jej
Anonymous No.212943834
>>212943761
We're not talking about Gunn's Superman
Anonymous No.212943843 >>212944160
>>212943677
>No one cares about Paul W.S. Anderson.
I for one am very interested in his upcoming The House of the Dead adaptation. It'll be interesting to see which film is better. Zack Cregger's Resident Evil reboot or Paul W.S. Anderson's The House of the Dead reboot.
Anonymous No.212943881 >>212943929 >>212944045 >>212944230 >>212945662
It was rightfully ridiculed of for being fucking stupid and people called Snyder a hack for making this shit.

Over time, contrarians decided it was actually good, even though the movie has no good quality about it, so you'll just read a bunch of pretentious buillshit to try to justify it.
Anonymous No.212943891
>>212942874
>cherry picking the one good part of that mess
I think Snyder's Watchmen is garbage but even I'll concede the Manhattan origin was very well done.
Anonymous No.212943929
>>212943881
>ridiculed of
GOOD MORNING SAAR
Anonymous No.212943962
>>212941878 (OP)
it's based for making /tv/eddit seethe
Anonymous No.212943963
>>212942111
Yeah, I remember when Snyderfags used this to convince /tv/ Snyder was pro-Trump (he turned out to be a Biden shill).
Anonymous No.212943991 >>212944043 >>212944268 >>212944305
>>212943748
>You probably also love celebrated auteur Len Wiseman. lol
Len Wiseman is one-note. Die Hard 4 is really good, but it's entirely carried by his second unit people. Underworld is good, give him that. Ballerina is good, but I've done a bit of digging, and I think that at least 1/3 of the film was reshot. They have tried to avoid throwing Wiseman under the bus because the parts he did shoot that they kept are good, but the film had serious problems before the reshoots.

In terms of PWSA, he's an immensely talented director who has made some remarkable movies. Event Horizon, Soldier, Resident Evil, AvP, Death Race -- all great films that have stood the test of time. His Three Musketeers was fun. I did like Monster Hunter. It's not amazing, but it's fine. In the Lost Lands is visually stunning, and emotionally effective in places, and it has an amazing soundtrack, but it was sorta disjointed and didn't really work narratively. The House of the Dead will make or break him. The same is true of Snyder's next movie. After Rebel Moon, Snyder absolutely needs to nail his next movie. He cannot fuck up again.
Anonymous No.212944043
>>212943991
Based
Anonymous No.212944045
>>212943881
>Over time
Read: three months later, when the director's cut came out. They were literally showing scenes from the director's cut on Youtube WEEKS AFTER THE MOVIE HIT THEATRES. It was insane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s
Anonymous No.212944082
>>212943392
pretty much
Anonymous No.212944097 >>212944315
>>212943748
Len Wiseman's most underrated film has to be Total Recall. No, not the theatrical cut. The director's cut. Oh, you thought the movie was bad because you only saw the butchered studio cut that dumbed down the plot and removed Ethan Hawke? Gee, parallels, parallels.
Anonymous No.212944102 >>212944116
>>212943769
You were just here a few days ago with your "lol, box office won't live up to MoS, it's so OVER!"

You're retarded.
Anonymous No.212944116
>>212944102
Meds, schizo incel.
Anonymous No.212944141
>>212943806
If you say so, buddy.
Anonymous No.212944160 >>212944178 >>212944248
>>212943843
Zombies!!! How artistic and intellectual.
Anonymous No.212944178
>>212944160
>everything needs to be intellectual
Anonymous No.212944199
Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League form a fantastic trilogy of movies. It's normal for a second film in a trilogy to be a bit rough. It's the third film that glues everything together. Back to the Future 2 is a gimmicky tech demo of a movie way too obsessed with VFX. But when you watch 1-3 together it all holds up. BvS is the deconstruction of the mythos of Superman. JL is the reconstruction. Great films. A bunch of people seethe about them. It is a miracle that we were able to get Zach Snyder's amazing director's cut of Justice League that highlighted that WB royally fucked up when they ousted him. They had something truly special and they squandered it because their decision to cut 30 mins from BvS backfired.
Anonymous No.212944230
>>212943881
>It was rightfully ridiculed of for being fucking stupid and people called John Carpenter a hack for making this shit.
Do you have any idea how many films that are beloved today were hated at release?
Anonymous No.212944248 >>212944339
>>212944160
Neither Cregger's RE film nor Anderson's House of the Dead film have any zombies in them.
Anonymous No.212944268 >>212944305 >>212944391 >>212944424
>>212943991
Wow, you have a heavy interest in mediocre, lowest common denominator popcorn shit. lol
You listed "great films" which include Alien vs. Predator and Resident Evil. You're like a dumb middle schooler all grown up but your tastes never matured. I've never seen such sincere posting celebrating such shit movies. Death Race?? hahaha
You keep your ear to the ground on these "great" filmmakers like Anderson and Snyder. Someone has to.
I'd just LOVE to read your thoughts on the master himself, Michael Bay. I'm sure you've given it a lot of "thought".
kek
Straight to video shit starring Andrew McCarthy really doesn't get enough love!
Anonymous No.212944305 >>212944375
>>212943991
based
>>212944268
you sound like reddit personified
Anonymous No.212944315 >>212944421 >>212944449
>>212944097
Wow, you're serious. The Total Recall remake no one wanted and no one liked... you liked it. LOL

You know another movie that really deserved a remake was Point Break. They just got it so perfect the second time around. I'm sure you'll agree since you're a FUCKING RETARD.
Anonymous No.212944339
>>212944248
The guy from Miss March is directing now? That's real cute. I wish him luck.
Anonymous No.212944349
>>212941878 (OP)
kryptonite spear go brrrrrr
Anonymous No.212944375 >>212944386
>>212944305
Reddit, huh? Yeah I really should communicate more in broken grunts and racism and conspiracy theories so I get your poltard respect.
>based
I'm perfectly happy being the opposite of you, "fren".
Anonymous No.212944386 >>212945546
>>212944375
yup, definitely reddit
Anonymous No.212944391 >>212944458
>>212944268
>You listed "great films" which include Alien vs. Predator and Resident Evil.
Are you trying to argue that AvP isn't the third best Alien film and second best Predator film? Resident Evil being a genre-defining masterpiece goes without saying of course.
>Death Race?
Are you maybe getting it confused with the Roger Corman-produced one? The 2008 reboot is a hyper-kinetic thrill ride set in a nightmare capitalist dystopia where the Weyland Corporation from AvP distracts the masses with the bread and circuses of intensely homoerotic men driving cars with guns on them really fast.
Anonymous No.212944421
>>212944315
>The Total Recall remake no one wanted and no one liked...
Are you confusing the theatrical and director's cuts? To be honest, at least one person wanted the remake. The director. He disliked the old film because he argued it was a bad adaption that got the character of Quaid completely wrong.
Anonymous No.212944424 >>212945611
>>212944268
NTA but there's nothing wrong with liking movies that are outside the IMDB top 250 anon. You seem like the kind of person whose taste is entirely predicated on whether something has critical acclaim or not.
Anonymous No.212944427
>>212941878 (OP)
Yes. Most people liked it. It's okay that you don't though
Anonymous No.212944449
>>212944315
>You know another movie that really deserved a remake was Point Break.
We got a remake. It was called The Fast and the Furious. It spawned a somewhat popular series of films.
Anonymous No.212944458 >>212944624
>>212944391
AvP is okay, but Event Horizon is straight up kino. Mortal Kombat, for being what it is, was a charming little flick too. Much better than the soulless new versions.
Anonymous No.212944528 >>212944672
>>212941878 (OP)
It received mixed reactions, mostly negative, but that is to be expected from normies. It did have its niche cult following which managed to lead to a director's cut of Justice League.
DC fans in general tend to be harder to please, and while I do think they have better overall comics under their publishing, Marvel's fanbase is less chaotic and unpleasant.
Anonymous No.212944624 >>212944658 >>212945668
>>212944458
Mortal Kombat is awesome. Incredibly soulful, sincere film.
>Go in peace, my brother.
I wish Paul would get back to that kind of filmmaking. He got way too fixated on visual effects and got lazy after 2009.
Anonymous No.212944658
>>212944624
I do share the obnoxious anon's opinion that Paul fell off at some point, but his earlier work was really fun. I just wish he'd move on from sequels to franchise movies and do something else.
Anonymous No.212944672 >>212944718 >>212944755
>>212944528
It seems to me that a polarizing film turns into a shitshow when it's some kind of adaptation or attached to some big franchise. One with fans. So for example, people don't throw tantrums about Apocalypse Now (which is based on a book) because it feels like the book doesn't have an autistic fanbase. If they don't like the movie, they don't like the movie. But if it's some kind of adaptation, they take not liking the movie SO PERSONALLY. And they get so hostile towards people who DO like the movie.

The Thing is based on a previous movie, which is based on a book. But while the film initially bombed and had horrible reviews, its discourse isn't defined by people screaming and crying about its status as an adaptation.
Anonymous No.212944718
>>212944672
This is true, but there's also the fact that different mediums have different strengths. With the Thing for example, what works in a book may not be suitable for a film and vice versa,
If you read the fanfic "The Things" which is based on the movie and won an award, it's pretty damn good story, but since it's mostly internal monologue, it's not something that would work as a film.
Anonymous No.212944755
>>212944672
Part of the issue here is that the containment walls have broken and nerds have way too much sway in pop culture now. If you go back and look at Lord of the Rings, people were SO ANGRY at those movies. They felt that Jackson had desecrated the books and the characters. But they didn't have the sway to kick up so much noise that they could define the narrative.
Anonymous No.212944959 >>212945196
>>212943017
I never saw blade runner but from the way people talk about it here don't the 4chan folk prefer the theatrical.
Anonymous No.212944967 >>212945260 >>212945389
>>212943518
God this movie sucked and there's no way a director's cut would fix it. The whole movie is just
>we wasted the opportunity to show the global apocalypse by summing it up in an exposition dump two movies ago, so here's a montage of the characters going through simulations of what that apocalypse looked like
It could have been decent if they just made it a prequel to Extinction but as it stands it's just an obvious filler movie to squeeze out more money before The Final Chapter.
Anonymous No.212945196
>>212944959
No, people blindly claim the director's cut is the only way to watch Blade Runner. I actually have some issues with that because Blade Runner was NOT written to be watched without narration. The film is sorta incoherent without it, and fans handwave that. If a newcomer watches Blade Runner Final Cut with no knowledge about the film they will find it confusing as fuck. The theatrical cut is messy, and has a worse ending, but the narration significantly enhances the clarity of the plot. There's no way to avoid that. The director's and final cuts are disjointed films where people only know the plot because they've seen the film multiple times and had points clarified to them by others.
Anonymous No.212945260 >>212945430
>>212944967
>so here's a montage of the characters going through simulations of what that apocalypse looked like
No, it raises questions about whether those events ever happened. Why does Umbrella have a simulation that is exactly the same as the opening scene of Afterlife? Why does Umbrella have a simulation where a car gets hit by a truck and flips on its head and a little girl is trapped in the back seat? Why is this simulation so similar to the opening scene of Apocalyse? Was any of it real? Did people like Angie Ashford actually exist, or were they just a random clone with a false personality in a fake world with an artificial sky?

The film is also shitting on Screen Gems for their plans to reboot RE. Hence its focus on the idea of having characters return from the dead with different personalities. Umbrella's testing facility is built in the heart of a Soviet submarine base. A sick monument to capitalism in the heart of communism itself.
Anonymous No.212945307
>>212941878 (OP)
>I'm not enjoying it.

filtered
Anonymous No.212945389
>>212944967
It's more of a film about the nature of RE films and the nature of franchises that keep going longer than they were intended to. (They never intended to make RE films after Extinction, but the studio wanted more.)

Interestingly, things like the endless white corridors, the interrogation scenes with the auditory torture -- this all comes from the screenplay for the first movie. That was how the film was supposed to end. With the White Queen helping Alice escape a strange Umbrella facility with endless white hallways.
Anonymous No.212945430 >>212945597
>>212945260
>Why does Umbrella have a simulation that is exactly the same as the opening scene of Afterlife? Why does Umbrella have a simulation where a car gets hit by a truck and flips on its head and a little girl is trapped in the back seat? Why is this simulation so similar to the opening scene of Apocalyse? Was any of it real? Did people like Angie Ashford actually exist, or were they just a random clone with a false personality in a fake world with an artificial sky?
I don't care. The problem with this movie is that my answer to every one of those questions is I don't care. I care about seeing Alice make it to Umbrella's HQ to learn their endgame and finish them once and for all and this movie is a big time wasting diversion that delayed showing me that.
Anonymous No.212945546
>>212944386
That doesn't mean anything. But keep "insulting" people with it if you like, lol.
Anonymous No.212945597
>>212945430
Look that is fair enough. If they had gone with the original script of Final Chapter where the White Queen gave alice the anti-virus and she took it to Raccoon to disperse it into the atmosphere you could skip films 4-5. Really, all the films after 3 have this problem. Because 6 is really a rehash of 3.
Anonymous No.212945611
>>212944424
There you go trying to make everything into two extremes. I just don't celebrate garbage flicks, that's all. There's plenty in the middle that doesn't totally blow.
I was always aware that you people do exist because someone buys the tickets and the DVDs, I've just never actually seen them argue passionately in support of it. This is an eye-opening experience. Only on an anonymous forum would anyone divulge their guilty pleasures.
Anonymous No.212945662
>>212943881
>directors don't typically write the films they direct
>Snyder is a hack for directing a film with a script written by someone else
>a film that was chopped to bits and literally makes no sense without those deleted scenes
>a visually striking allegorical work that has some decent acting in it overall
To be completely fair the ending actually shits the bed, so I get it, but I don't think it's directly his fault.
Anonymous No.212945668 >>212945716 >>212946451 >>212947956
>>212944624
>Mortal Kombat is awesome. Incredibly soulful, sincere film.

lol, I can't take posts like this seriously AT ALL. I was in middle school when that and Street Fighter came out and they were about as "soulful" as the TMNT movies. That includes Vanilla Ice.
This is some hilarious trolling you're doing. Very niche.
Anonymous No.212945716
>>212945668
TMNT is soulful too, gotta rewatch it soon, thanks for the reminder
Anonymous No.212946252 >>212946473
>>212941878 (OP)
I'm putting on the Ultimate Edition, just to see how big faggots you all are.

So far Jimmy Olsen is a CIA agent and got shot in the head. Lmao
Anonymous No.212946451
>>212945668
>"soulful" as the TMNT movies.
The first Ninja Turtle film is amazing. Gritty, dark, but about how love and family overcomes fear and temptation.
Anonymous No.212946473 >>212946814 >>212947459
>>212946252
>So far Jimmy Olsen is a CIA agent and got shot in the head. Lmao
I'm confused about why this upset people. It sorta seems like fans of the comics got upset? But why would we care about them?
Anonymous No.212946527
>>212943017
Anonymous No.212946814 >>212947072
>>212946473
I'm not upset, I don't give a shit about comics at all. But it does show writers callous and/or contempt for the material. Like introducing Felix in a Bond movie and killing him 30secs later.

Also what is the deal with Hollywood and "unique bullets" as a forensic trail? It's so stupid.

Now Batman has nightmares of giant bats coming out his parent's grave?
Anonymous No.212946837
Y superman keep killing people in this movie. Retards supposed to save people.
Anonymous No.212946937
>>212943225
>>212943384
Yeah it's tempting to discuss the issues with the DCEU individually but it's also unnecessary since the answer is always the same

>why didn't they release the extended version of BVS since it was the vastly better film?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards
>why did they let Whedon reshoot half of the Justice League movie when every new scene required them to awkwardly CGI over Cavill's face and they could have just used the footage Snyder already shot?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards
>Why did they refuse to make a solo Batfleck film but greenlit a solo Batman film starring Pattinson which came out while Affleck was still playing Batman in other movies and so had competing versions of the same character overlapping with each other?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards
>Why did they spend tens of millions on a Batgirl movie which was 100% finished and then just never released it?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards
>Why didn't they just use the Flash's magic multiverse asspull plot to soft reboot the DCU if they were unhappy with it and instead kept changing their mind about what they were trying to even accomplish with it until they finally released it after announcing that the entire DCEU was dead without even finishing it resulting in it being a massive flop?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards
>Why did they wait five fucking years to make an Aquaman sequel and constantly fuck with the director when the first movie was an enormous hit and the most successful DC film?
Because Warner Brothers was a failing company run by literally, unironically, completely insane retards

I could go on but you get the drift
Anonymous No.212947072 >>212948035
>>212946814
It's apparent that Facebook guy actually is trying very hard with his performance, it's not generic scene chewing....but why? He's not compelling, or even appears intelligent. Lex Luther doesn't have to be suave, but he does need to be someone who could wield power in society.

Ironically the real Zuckerberg is far more psychopathic than the movie version.
Anonymous No.212947459
>>212946473
>shitting on the source material is a good thing
kys
Anonymous No.212947937
>>212943518
>but Screen Gems changed their minds about releasing on Blu Ray back in 2012
good. you didn't need that much anyways, you wanted that much. lossless 480p is all you need.
Anonymous No.212947956
>>212945668
>they were about as "soulful" as the TMNT movies

But those movies had soul for days, what the fuck are you on about
Anonymous No.212947983 >>212948008
>>212941878 (OP)
Its really telling I see snyderbros dickride MoS and Justice League, but not this.
Anonymous No.212948008
>>212947983
Anonymous No.212948035
>>212947072
It's not exactly that Snyder is a bad director, he seems to have a firm grasp of the Batman asthetic, but he is not subtle with his allusions. The Prokofiev suite from Eyes Wide Shut at the social party, the wailing from 2001 during the Apocalypse scene.

And holy shit that Flash cameo is clunky.