So is it a flop or not? Unbiased answers only.

>>212942446 (OP)
Unironically kill yourself shill

>>212942446 (OP)
Too early to tell, it hasn't been out for that long

>>212942476
So is that a yes or no...?

No. It underperformed. That's not the same as flopping. It'll make back it's money for WB. Supergirl and Clayface will flop however and that's a wrap for the Gunn DCUniverse

It's for sure a flop worldwide and if Grace Randolph is commenting on it in public making less than MoS. She wouldn't do that otherwise

>>212942446 (OP)
Genuinely good movie. In the long run, it'll find its audience, and future Superman films will be more successful because people will have fond memories of this one.

Turnout was artificially diminished because of bad associations with the previous Snyder and Singer films.

>>212942515
I think clayface has a real chance of being a success. That movie is being made on the cheap and horror movies almost always perform well. If they lean hard on it being a horror movie and try to distance a little bit from the fact that it is related to this comic book universe it may become a hit with the normies.

It’s made $400million in 8 days so it’s not horrible. I think it could bring in another 300 depending on how long it stays in theaters

>>212942446 (OP)
It underperformed due to Marvel fatigue and Man of Steel/BvS and even Superman Returns stigmatizing this franchise. I thought it would suck but ended up really liking it. Fact is, there hasn't been a good Superman movie since Superman II, and audiences are just getting sick of superhero movies, and were expecting woke bullshit in this which it ended up surprisingly lacking.

Superman will never do well outside of America. It's just never gonna happen.

>>212942446 (OP)
Capeshit sucks.

>>212942446 (OP)
it's repairing the brand and name

>>212942446 (OP)
WHO FUCKING CARES

>>212942446 (OP)
Adjusted for inflation, the box office revenue for each movie in 2025 dollars:
>Superman: The Movie - ~$1.4 billion
>Man of Steel - ~$903 million
>Superman II - ~$825 million
>Superman Returns - ~$609 million
>Superman III - ~$253 million 6. Superman (2025) - ~$220 million (so far)
>Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - ~$83 million

When all is said and done, maybe it will hit 450, which is nowhere near the hits the other movies were

>>212942909
Good morning

>>212942446 (OP)
Still not possible to find an empty theater around me for this movie. I like to go when hype dies and no randos are around me but its still going strong. Im in a densely populated area.

Domestically it's a hit.

>>212942909
how come you retards never adjust budgets for inflation?

>>212942446 (OP)
Reddit is shilling it hard because it's a Clarion call for leftist Islam
It won't break a billion dollars, which is the only reason you make these movies
It's a flop when compared to the heyday of comic book movies
But it's doing well considering the last 5 years of feminazi and LGBTQ propaganda
People are more concerned with how much money it makes and I've only seen three clips posted from the movie
All in all Superman is a shitty hero for live action because you want someone with the physique of a body builder playing him and a villain to match his physical stature, who can also outwit him

>>212942446 (OP)
No, it’s making a profit.

>>212942971
NTA, but you are legit Down syndrome.

>>212943080
Not when you include marketing costs

>>212942446 (OP)
Outside USA, yes.

>>212942909
Superman 2025 is already at 400 million

It’s a hit. Already made 400 million in little over a week. Best Monday-Thurs of the year and a better then expected second weekend drop at only 53% when capeshit on average drops off over 60%

>>212943100
Answer the questions.

>>212942446 (OP)
it needs around $700M to breakeven

i liked it a lot

Domestically, it's doing OK. Globally, no.

>>212942601
>Turnout was artificially diminished because of bad associations with the previous Snyder and Singer films.
This is such cope. WB had a clean state, they could have made a movie so good no one even bothered thinking of Snyder ever again, but they made instead a lukewarm “okay” flick that people are comparing to MoS because it’s comparable.

>>212942446 (OP)
>So is it a flop or not?
We won't know the full details until its theatrical run is finished. So far, it only appears to be doing well in the states , but that's likely a honeymoon phase bolstered by WB buying their own tickets. It's bombing everywhere internationally minus India.
It'll likely be reported as a "success" by shills, but investors will be disappointed by how it fails to reach $1 billion. There will likely be massive budget cuts in the near future. This doesn't fare well for Supergirl either.

It's definitely a shoe in for the gayest superman costume

>>212943050
>it's a Clarion call for leftist Islam
Huh?

>>212942706
I think Joker gave WB a false impression of the kind of box office returns they can achieve with elseworlds releases. I think they're going to light a lot of money on fire trying to get another Joker box office.

>>212943323
>Domestically, it's doing OK.
Domestically it's doing fantastic.
The Domestic figure alone is why it's likely going to finish about 650M

>>212943338
>but they made instead a lukewarm “okay” flick that people are comparing to MoS because it’s comparable
WOM is way way way better than MoS

>>212943145
I hate this hippie simple jackoff for flipping off hard working warriors while he's supposed to be using his super ring powers to prevent Superman from raping all Earth's women.

>>212943445
In America, sure.
It’s actually the perfect slop for this shitty country’s current isolationist run.
But I think the world deserves a movie they all can enjoy, China included.

>>212943503
>But I think the world deserves a movie they all can enjoy, China included.
No it doesn't.
Also, all capeshit is flopping in China.

>>212943411
>Domestically it's doing fantastic.
>0.07 goybux have been deposited into your account

>>212943411
>650m
I doubt it
Its coming to VOD in 3 weeks
FF is coming out with seemingly good reviews and high projections

It will slow down DOM and the OS will slow/stagnate even more

For it to hit 650mil, DOM would somewhere need to be 400mil and I don't see how it gets there unless FF flops hard and people flock to back to Supes

It'll make like $630 million. Which is fine. But it was carried by the domestic market.

>>212943411
>The Domestic figure alone is why it's likely going to finish about 650M
That's it? I'm supposed to be impressed?
WB is slowly approaching bankruptcy. They need at least 800M - 1B to appease investors & recoup billions lost.

>>212943542
It's trending to do nearly 400M in the US. That's fantastic.
>>212943550
It's trending to do 400. It will 100% do more than 600M.

It's ok.

>>212942446 (OP)
It broke even today. I do see it making it to 500 million maybe even more depending on how Fantastic Four goes.

>>212943571
>They need at least 800M - 1B to appease investors & recoup billions lost
Why do people who have no idea how these things work always feel the need to comment? Batman notwithstanding, look at how all other recent DC films have performed and tell me breaking even isn't a massive step up? Execs are also reported happy with the performance

>>212943338
how good the movie is doesn't affect the first weekend unless its really really bad.
openings are determined by marketing and the size of the pre-existing audience. maybe the marketing could have been better but the real issue is whether there was a huge built-in audience for this movie and there just wasn't: people think capeshit is figured out and Superman himself is about as current as Robin Hood.

compare with Snyder, who had Nolan involved and the hook of "Superman but realistic" which SEEMED like a great idea until you saw it in practice.

>>212943617
>I do see it making it to 500 million
It's already 407M today.
Movies don't stop selling tickets or leave theaters when other movies debut.
Based on all current trends, it will do over 600M, likely 650.

>>212943574
>That's fantastic.
20 years ago, yes.
In today's flailing economy? Fuck no. It's more of a wet fart if anything. That also doesn't take into account WB is still bleeding tons of revenue.

>>212943395
There's a character in the movie that's supposed to represent Putin and Russia, but Gunn made him look like a fat Jew. Gay race commie reddit is super obsessed with looks so they are attributing the character to Netanyahu and Israel to help further the advance of Islam through progressive leftist spaces. They get to cheer on Islamic terrorist groups like Hamas while shielding any criticism by hiding behind Russian and tranny reddit mods who constantly sweep for them

>>212943550
Superman reviews before the release were that it's a disaster. Day of release we found out that wasn't true. Pre release reviews are manipulated to fuck.

>>212943659
Maybe if Fantastic Four is shit, but i doubt that would stop Marvel from mogging dc again

>>212943640
>Execs are also reported happy with the performance
Yes, they were given marching orders to claim as though its doing well, but that's far from the truth of things. We all know they hide the true numbers. Cooking the books is Hollywood's bread and butter.

Its doing ok domestically. But its flopping internationally. Fantastic Four is about to break its legs hard so it will flop to barely 500-600 million. Its a flop considering the cost marketing which was Barbie level and Warners Bros wanted another Barbie level billion. Zaslav will cancel the the DCU and fire Gunn after Supergirl flops. He was a fool for trusting Gunn.

>>212943666
Who gives a fuck about some losers on reddit?

>>212942909
Movies back then were in theaters for months if not years. Apples and oranges.

>>212943661
>That also doesn't take into account WB is still bleeding tons of revenue
I know most of you have a 5th grade education, but you know profit, revenue, and money are 3 different things that can't be used interchangeably?

>>212943050
>the only reason you make these movies
the only reason you make them is to sell merch lol

>>212943725
Indeed.
WB's actual profit is in the fucking toilet actually.

>>212943145
even if it doesn't make much at theatres outside the US, the WOM and brand renovation will help sell subsequent DC movies.

>>212943713
>Fantastic Four
That shit will end up like Thunderbolts, but slightly higher. No one gives a fuck about F4.

>>212943704
>admits that whether or not he's explicitly told the film is doing well he will bitch and whine that it isn't
numberfags are on another planet

>>212943715
Faggots that keep trying to gaslight people into thinking this dogshit commie propaganda was a good movie

Want to know why studios push for early digital release? Because this bullshit always spewed on here that theaters take half. It’s a sliding scale. Studios take 90% of opening gross and the percentage slowly drops each week the movie is out. Studios pushed for early digital release before the percentage hits 50% for theaters which is around two months after release. Why theaters were furious when studios shortened the window and why they are all on verge of bankruptcy

>>212943396
no one is going to expect Clayface to make anything near literally the most bankable comicbook villain.

>>212943739
Can't wait to get your hands on some red granny panties, huh
Your boyfriend will love them I bet

>>212943713
>Its doing ok domestically. But its flopping internationally. Fantastic Four is about to break its legs hard so it will flop to barely 500-600 million.
Again, movies don't stop selling tickets when another movie comes out.
It's already at 400M and has very strong legs and all trends have it pegged at a 350-400M domestic gross and you believe it will just move an additional 100M?

>>212943722
still, it won't beat MoS, which was already a disappointment for Warner.

>>212943775
>B-B-BUT NUMBERFAGS REEEEEEEE!
Is this the new cope from you people? The film's shitting itself. Without that international boost, it has no legs. The 54% drop off is highly indicative of this trend. Capeshit's on its way out.

>>212943830
>movies from the same genre don't compete against eachother
Fucking retarded

>>212943851
>it won't beat mos
cope, its legs are far superior

>>212943713
Fucking cope
>Test audiences said it’s terrible it’s over
>Critics are going to say it’s terrible and it will get a rotten score
>Audiences will hate it and it will bomb opening weekend
>Word of mouth is terrible it will have a massive second weekend drop
>It. now has to make a billion to break even

Legs legs legs
It has legs, fuck off go back predditor

>>212943876
Fantastic Four is gonna break them.

>>212943865
No shit, nigger but would be true if Superman's WOM was shit, it's not.

>>212943909
It all hinges on if Fantastic 4 is shit or not. If it's not it's going to ruin superman

>>212943827
idk how many Superdog toys this movie will sell but it will be higher than the number of Galactus action figures.

>>212943863
>The 54% drop off
Compared to MoS which had an even bigger drop off? I'm sure WB are so sad they left BvS and its, checks notes, 69% drop beaten out only in the superhero genre by ant man quantumania in the dust

the dog was a bit too much

>>212943830
>movies don't stop selling tickets when another movie comes out
Not instantly, but they take a hit depending on the competition.
Fantastic Four will be dogshit, but it'll certainly kneecap Superman when it releases.

>>212943865
honestly, if people like Superman then that is more likely to help F4. likewise if people dislike one capeshit they will be less likely to watch more. it's not a direct competition.

Superman depends on how well this other light blue faggot slop does, grim

What does this mean for Supergirl? it has a smaller budget but I don't know if people want to see an annoying blonde woman and her shitty dog
Gunn didn't even know Supergirl is supposed to be older than Superman

>>212943905
>>212943940
>>212943971
So, in your mind, this is how the trend like for Superman will go?
Are you are retard?

>>212943996
Those movies weren't competing directly against a more known studio of the same genre.

>>212943958
>B-but MoS
I don't give a fuck about Snyderslop, so I don't know why you're bringing that up. That's a low bar to begin with. Defaulting to whataboutisms is a sign of your insecurities.

>>212943946
Don't forget the customized popcorn buckets five cents to make sold for forty dollars with two dollars worth of popcorn sold at thirty dollars, with 25 cents of liquid butter sold at ten dollars for two pumps

>>212944037
if people went to see films based on them being MCU then surely Thunderbolts would have done better.

I actually agree F4 has one thing in its favor and that's perceived novelty value. there not having been a successful F4 yet might make it seem interesting compared with the apparently more familiar Superman.

>>212943996
>Are you are retard?
GOOD MORNING SAAAR!

>>212943995
They'll focus on the domestic market. Gunn expected better from Superman in the international but now that he knows it flopped there he won't do retarded shit like mount a supergirl dummy atop a British skyscraper

The movie looks like an episode of the boys, where did the money go

>>212944037
WWZ, which appeals to the same demographic as MoS, was released literally the following week as MoS.

>>212944085
>F4 has one thing in its favor and that's perceived novelty value
There's nothing novel about it. The whole capeshitter ensemble thing's been done to death already.

>>212942446 (OP)
I think this was the first capeshit I’ve seen since Doctor Strange, it was actually good but I think it’s partially because I’ve ignored the endless capeshit spam over the last decade and in moderation it’s actually fun and enjoyable. It was a little all over the place, but it had some kino Superman moments that were really nice.

Comic book movies are supposed to look cool, they went back to leftist cuckhold demoralization after the lame gay woman shit didn't work

>>212944085
>there not having been a successful F4 yet
1. No one ever liked Fantastic Four.
2. Pedro Pascal Fatigue is real & normies are getting sick of him.
3. The MCU is dying.

>>212944148
oh yeah. its just a slightly different brand with the futurist 60s thing. I'm playing devil's advocate, the appeal of F4 makes no sense to me personally.

>>212944146
>>212944037
Man of Steel was obliterated in it's 2nd week by World War Z.
And despite that and despite bad WOM had a trend line that actually made sense.
Superman's trending better than MoS and it's domestic gross is so good it will carry it over 600M. If the international number wasn't so shit, it could have done 800M.

>>212944120
>They'll focus on the domestic market.
what they'll do is pay attention to market research: in the long run this Superman might increase the international audience for spinoffs. of course it relies on them continuing to make good movies.

>>212944085
Everyone going to see FF likely already seen Superman. Or they’re MCU homers that wouldn’t see Superman anyways. Superman viewers after week one is pure word of mouth

If "flop" is purely a measure of box office, with the world wallow in an unprecedent intellectual nadir, most big budget capeshit turns over money--irrespective of quality.

If "flop" is used in the context of objective quality and what a product brings to the license, Kikeman arguably the worst shlock since computers began intervening in the creative process.

i'm god damn mister terrific

>>212942446 (OP)
Its mid, the actual budget which Gunn lied about for whatever reason is over $300 mil plus all the agressive marketing theyve done on top of that and it just made it to $400 mil. Its flopping internationally but maybe domestically it'll work out

>>212944251
It just shows you Superman has always been American and faggots overseas opinions on him don’t matter. They chose dinoslop over Superman

>>212944416
True for Europe but F4 is doing as horribly in the Asian markets as Superman is.
Asia has moved on from Capeshit.

im watching man of steel rn

>>212942909
Superman (1978) was the 2nd highest grossing movie worldwide behind Grease.
Man of Steel was the 9th in 2013.
Superman (2025) is so far the 9th of 2025, but has a lot of time to dethrone other films. Of course it would have to make a Billie just to get third place and that's unlikely, plus there's an Avatar movie coming that will likely make more.
I doubt it'll place in the top 5, but it may have more impact than MoS.

What's nuts to me is that Superman 1978 had a $50 million ($247 million adjusted) budget when Star Wars had an $11 million ($58.6 million adjusted) budget the year before. You only see that kind of return for investment with horror films nowadays.

>>212942446 (OP)
Gunn shot himself in the foot by coming out and saying it was an immigrant story, when people are waking up to what that really means the ethnic cleansing of western white populations with some of the most vile and subhumans on the face of the Earth

I was so happy when he got the monkeys out of there bro

>>212942446 (OP)
No. It's like the Batman Begins to BvS/JL's Batman and Robin. It not being a complete embarrassment for the character makes up for the less than stellar box office return so far. WB/DC had a giant pile of diarrhea mess to clean up and get back on the good side of the fans.

>>212943503
Superman is an all American character. Why would chinks ever like it?

>>212942446 (OP)
It’s going to lose money, guaranteed.

>>212945468
Don't forget he saves animals.
That's a no go in Chinkland.

>>212942446 (OP)
Underperformed domestically, flopped in international markets. Best case it breaks even

>>212942760
>It underperformed due to Marvel fatigue and Man of Steel/BvS and even Superman Returns stigmatizing this franchise. I thought it would suck but ended up really liking it. Fact is, there hasn't been a good Superman movie since Superman II, and audiences are just getting sick of superhero movies, and were expecting woke bullshit in this which it ended up surprisingly lacking.

Same. If this movie came out, say, a little over decade ago, it'd be a megahit right out of the gate. As is, it may take a while to get there, but in personal interactions I've only heard positive reactions from normies and geeks alike. That bodes well for it.

>>212942446 (OP)
It's losing to Man of Steel, which:

- Had a much more limited international release

- Was far less marketed (and had a notably smaller marketing budget)

In fact, it's even losing to Man of Steel BEFORE we account for inflation.

A "flop" to me is any movie that fails to meet its expectations. And I'd be surprised if Zaslav didn't expect this movie to beat the Man of Steel.

Will WBD publicly admit that it was a flop? Not before they decide to end the DCU. Because that's just going to scare away investors.

congratulations to WB who somehow released a batman movie and superman movie - neither of which reached a billion dollars at the box office while a fucking disney+ direct to streaming movie remake is making over a billy

It's aiming at $400 million just in the US, more than thunderbolts (new avengers) made worlwide
>b-but it's bombing in bolivia!!
Disneyjeet cope

>>212945939
>It's aiming at $400 million just in the US
Might as well aim for a target a thousand miles away with a sawed off shotgun.

>>212942446 (OP)
It underperformed but its releasing in a year where there aren't that many blockbusters so relative to the competitiion, people are okay with it.

But there's no reason for Superman of all movies to get mogged by the third or fourth Jurrasic Park movie in a reboot no one really likes anymore

>>212942446 (OP)
this movie is literally black adam

>>212946412
>the only live action Dr Fate we will ever see is trapped in this Dwayne Johnson ego-fest
>its also a good Dr Fate

So sad

>>212942446 (OP)
it's okay

>>212942446 (OP)
No. It made over 400 million in just 10 days. This is easily making at least over 700 million.

>>212943338
WB does not have a good slate and neither does DC, are we actually gonna pretend Aquaman 2/WW84/Shazam 2/ and Flash were good movies that totally didn’t tarnish and trash the DC brand? This sounds more like cope because the movie is actually gonna make a decent buck and not at least end up in complete failure with absolutely no future

>>212946504
It's not reaching 700 million because Fantastic Four is out this week

>>212945332
>it may have more impact than MoS
Unlikely. None of the discussion surrounding this movie is on it merits, it's solely about how much it's making. It's indistinguishable from most other capeslop and will be completely forgotten in a few weeks; it pretty much has zero culture impact. MoS wasn't a cultural phenomenon or anything but it was a fairly polarizing film so it still to this day it still generates a lot of discussion.

>>212943560
It's less than MoS

>>212946361
The last Jurassic World movie got a 28 RT score and made a billion dollars. It mogged The Batman and every Snyderverse movie except Aqauman. Fallen Kingdom with a 47% RT rating made a billion and as much Spider Man

Superhero comics are intended for children between the ages of 8 and 14. If you are still into superheroes over the age of 15 there is something wrong with you.

>>212947033
dude none of that shit you just described is real. you live in a snyderfan hugbox, so you have no idea what real people actually like. just stop. stop it. it's sad.

>>212942446 (OP)
It's neither a smash hit or a straight up flop. The box office is as supremely mid as the movie itself.

>>212942446 (OP)
I didn't HATE it. I would put it at exactly the same level as pic rel. Make if that what you will.

>>212946695
That post says clean slate, not good slate
None of what you listed is relevant because it was the DCEU, this is DCU
Bringing up previous movies as an excuse for why people wouldn’t think Gunn’s slop is very good is cope

>>212942446 (OP)
Would say that outgrossing Marvel movies makes it de facto not a flop. Maybe if Fantastic Four embarrasses Superman it might get dicey for James Gunn but if its close then they absolutely will make more DC movies with an international friendly premise this time because Warner Bros has absolutely nothing else except Harry Potter.

>>212947138
It’s a hit and doing something no Suprerman movie has done since the Donner movies. Good word of mouth. Superman Returns. Completely under performs. MOS solid opening weekend falls off a cliff its second weekend and horrific word of mouth. This movie just exceeded expectations its second weekend with a 53% drop compared MOS 67%. The second weekend is always what studios look at.

>>212947078
Shut the fuck up retard.

>>212947313
>muh word of mouth
It's just geeks and liberals

>>212947085
It is real and you haven't refuted anything I said. And I do have an idea about what real people like because I interact will real people in real life every day, unlike you who polices posts on 4chan and spergs out if someone doesn't offer anything less than glowing admiration for your dumb movie.

>>212942446 (OP)
we got 2nd week data and the fact that there's only a 50% drop makes it one of the most successful movies of all time. People love the movie and it resonated with the public. At this point it'll do well after it ends it's runs and go on sale on bluray and on streaming.

>>212947313
Total box office and total profit is what studios always look at, not second weekend.

>>212947378
First two weeks give more of a percent back for domestic profits though.

>>212947313
>It’s a hit

If you stretch the definition to its absolute one multimeter longer and it will break limits you may be able to say that. But just barely and only if you are being generous and the moon is aligned and the tide is at its proper level.

>>212947378
For a stand alone not for a franchise. If this movie had a drop this weekend like MOS did the WB would be panicking.

>>212947335
>nerd properties appealing to nerds is a bad thing
Fuck off normalfag

>>212947482
Snyderverse isn’t coming back jeet. Saying it’s a bomb is not going to get your eight armed toilet god to make it happen

>>212947245
Everything I listed is one of the exact reasons why people wouldn’t want to see a DC movie let alone a Superman movie, I feel like Thunderbolts not making a lot of money is also because of Marvels previous mistakes how is it not relevant to audiences being wary of a brand new Superman movie? If this movie got terrible reviews like every other DC movie so far nobody would’ve saw it

>Superman second weekend drop, 53%
>Man of Murder’s second weekend drop, 67%

>>212947335
I'm a Nazi and I liked it.

>if it didn't make a billion it's a flop
What kind of mentality is this?

>>212942706
It all hinges on if Gunn actually sticks to a hard R Clayface horror movie
Clayface is a shape shifting clay monster who has a main move of eating people, it's not hard to make him scary even in a Superhero world
Make it the origin story of a face stealing freak who eats people and escapes the authorities at the end
If Gunn were ballsy, he'd have him kidnap someone physically close to a hero without the hero noticing for understandable but tragic reasons

>Is it making gangbuster amounts of money for the studio?
No, but it's made its money back.

>Was it meant to?
Probably not. Audience expectations for DC Superhero movies and Superhero genre in general has been in a freefall off the back of a dozen poor quality projects. This so called, "Superhero Fatigue" is nothing more than audience response to zero accountability for product quality. The same studio meddling we saw in DC over the last two decades are now happening in Marvel across a number of their projects from Brave New World to Daredevil and even the new Fantastic Four.

>Does the new Superman movie solidify itself for having a cult status?
Absolutely yes - it's rated well by both critics and audiences which will be enjoyed for many years.

>>212947370
>bluray
kek. HDfags are a spiritually raped people. lossless 480p is all you need.

>>212943338
Batman Begins.

>>212942446 (OP)
Was not a flop. Was not a world-beater smash hit success like Avatar, but probably didn't need to be. Boomers don't get it but Superman isn't an A list character anymore and hasn't been for at least thirty years. He's basically Hulk tier, and trying to rebuild back up to A list.

>>212947888
Jeets and retards on here don’t get it. When you destroy your brand it’s hard to recover it. Batman and Robin was a financial success but people hated it. The Batman brand was ruined. Begins opening weekend was not good and it only made 373 million total with a 150 million dollar budget. Was it a failure because didn’t make as much as Batman and Robin with muh adjusted for inflation? No. Because it grew long legs, had great reviews and word of mouth. It slowly rebuilt the brand and Dark Knight became a massive success

>>212948116
I think the disconnect for people is that much of WB ruining their “brand” was self-inflicted

>>212942971
>>212943293
are you illiterate

Why did the WB give Batman Begins a sequel but canceled a sequel to Superman Returns when both movies made almost the same amount of money? Hint, one had great reviews and word of mouth, the other did not

>>212942446 (OP)
I'm happy superman is patrineally jewish like me. Maternal Jews are really annoying and generally ugly. Paternal Jews fuck the most choice women of all races and are very strong with many pleasing schizophrenias and autisms.

>>212948322
So you're saying no chance for a Gunnman sequel?

>>212942446 (OP)
Probably a flop if they needed the overseas money and it's seemingly not doing well there.

>>212942446 (OP)
>just finished establishing goodwill with the retards who think they have fine taste in capeshit because they love whipsmart quips fired every other minute
>is on its way to turn a profit
>teased a very fappable Supergirl who will be accompanied by the new Superman to boost sales and keep the momentum going
>made the buck broken right wing seethe over the implication that this movie was about Israel as a bonus
Very hard to say it's a flop at this point now that it's ticked so many boxes. If you want to cope and state the contrary, then hide the curry first and at least attempt to come off as a rational human being.

>>212943503
American movies went to shit when they stopped making movies for America
t. Euro

>>212944929
Sorry to hear that

>>212947033
>still generates a lot of discussion.
Lmao no.
>It's secretly good, I swear!
>No, it's dogshit lmao
That's not a discussion. That shit was never discussed.

>>212947337
Only reason people remember those shit movies is beacuse you loser are still annoying about it after 12 years, despite peopel not caring one bit if not for laughing at it

>>212950058
slow it down on the keyboard

>>212948881
monkeybots reviews don't count

>>212948116
These days there's also the more complex maths of the numbers a film does on a streaming service, and how much weight the studio puts on them.
I genuinely don't know how the bean-counters handle that, but it's still additional value out of the film. Particularly in the case of something like Thunderbolts for Disney or Superman for WB, where they're films very much positioned as the first step at clawing back some viewer confidence in the worth of their respective IP and franchises.
If the first film in your attempted redemption arc reviews well, does alright at the box office, does great on streaming and the second film in your redemption arc then sees markedly better numbers at the box office? I have no idea how to calculate it as a dollars and cents figure, but that's absolutely additional value.

>>212950110
Too many fingers

>>212947979
>Batman Begins.
Problem is, BB was a legit good movie and pleased nearly everyone, specially Batman's fans. Supergunn is ok at best, even people liking cannot spot pointing flaws like the insane pacing and the annoying camera/CGI.

>>212949600
If you actually think like this you must be under 18

>>212947742
Okay Elon

Not a flop given it will cap in like 650M but it grossing less than Man of Steel is not a good look

>>212948322
>Superman Returns
Why did they make a sequel to a 20 years old franchise? Did they expect every kid to watch the 1978 version first or what?

>>212950491
WB is still out of touch and still think superman should only be the donner version

>>212948116
The home video sales were very high iirc

>>212942516
She seemed more nervous than usual in that video. How odd.

>>212942515
/thread

>>212942515
Supergirl owning the Dog was a brilliant idea
Women are going to fucking love that movie

>>212950636
I've seen a lot of critics going "I hated this and this and also this was pretty awakward, also the movie is better when James Gunn stop doing his number. It's a solid 8, I love it" and I go "what?". For me this was a 4/10 but I hate capeshit right now, I can see someone giving a generous 6/10 but still, this one was just mediocre, not bad, not good, it just exists.

>>212942446 (OP)
Don’t care. Haven’t seen it and won’t see it. Don’t care about kike produced goy slop.

Superman is going to make $400 million from America alone

>>212950491
That was a bad call.
Being reminiscent of Donner is one thing, but being in continuity with the 2nd movie was retarded. The beginning was so good

>>212950491
Currently they make sequels to 40 yo movies, just saying.
And yes it's retarded

>>212950491
They did the same with Tron Legacy. Better than SR but still, it was weird to think they made a sequel for a movie probably nobody in the audience watched except for me and 3 other guys. All my normie friends went blind thinking that was a standalone movie.

>>212947692
>Man of Murder

Hey, Remember when in Superman 2 Superman crushes Zod's hand, throws him into a wall and then watches as he falls to his death?

>>212942446 (OP)
It'll do well enough that no lessons will be learned.

>>212951016
Man of Steel did 670 Million which in today's money is 970 MILLION.

>>212943765
>Word of mouth
You are such a faggot

>>212942446 (OP)
Flop. It'l cost the studio around 200 mil. You probably noticed that the fanboys and the asskissing movie press is talking about "impressive numbers", "restoring the brand" and other coping arguments instead of directly answering the question you ask. Will it make enough money to be lucrative? No, it will not.

Lads, am I retarded? I like almost all of the DC films.

>>212942971
>how come you retards [something profoundly retarded]
I'll spoonfeed, revenue is gross turnover, nothing to do with budget in any way. You're thinking of profit.
This is probably the most basic accounting knowledge that pretty much everyone knows. Guess you don't need to know it to get a H1-B though.

>>212951293
This

>>212952583
this sounds kino
>cheetah won't stop trying to fuck him

>>212943617
it did not break even.

Why do we never see toy sales in these threads?

>>212943715
I give a fuck about your trips.

>>212951270
Hey remember when Superman 2 was a good movie with a good Superman and everone liked it, unlike Man of Shit?
>>212951301
And still no snyderverse, because nobody liked it

>>212945468
Captain America 3 grossed 190 Million in china

>>212945897
bcuz batman is a lame franchise

TDK/TDKR were only good because of nolan