Thread 212945714

>I do not know this God. Neither will I let your people go
>Rameses, please, you must listen...
>I will not be the weak link!... Tell your people, as of today, their workload has been doubled, thanks to your God. Or is it thanks to you?

never happened. jews werent slaves in egypt.

>>212945714 (OP)
imagine being so repulsive that you lie about having been slaves in egypt for thousands of years and when you finally get caught you just shrug it off

>>212945767
Correction.
Some Jews were slaves in Egypt, because Egypt had many kind of slaves.

However there has never been any historical evidence of any mass grave ever linking to any number remotely close to what Jews say were living in egypt.
Nor was any dwelling uncovered for such a people.
Nor any religious or cultural iconography that would support such a people.

t. watched the leading historian in Egypts video last year where he is very upfront about the fact a couple of Jews were probably slaves
very nice arabic man, would watch again.

>>212945884
Dude Christians literally believe a guy walked on water and came back from the dead
It’s all a fairy tale

>>212945714 (OP)

The interesting thing about the story of Exodus is the jews didn't conclude that the Pharaoh was wrong to enslave them because slavery was wrong. Indeed when they returned to Israel they promptly conquered and enslaved the people that were currently living there and continued to be deeply involved in the slave trade for the next 3800 years. No, the jews concluded that the Pharoah was wrong to enslave them and god was in the right for killing the Egyptian's children because the jews were the chosen people of god and it is they who should be the slave masters not the slaves.

Kind of gives you a sense of the thought process behind what they're doing these days to the non jews currently living in Israel.

>>212945767
>>212945884
>>212945940
>>212945952
I thought they had found proof, it's just that the dates everybody originally assumed turned out to be too late in the timeline.

why shouldnt the jews want to rule and consider themselves the best and defend their interests?
sounds like everyone else is just mad they are failing at doing the same
>NOOO YOU CANT RIG THE PAGERS THATS CHEATING

>>212945952
I want to marry her and make her catholic.

>>212947212

I mean if you want to wage war on all of humanity then you shouldn't be surprised when humanity decides they need to round you up into a concentration camp.

>>212947173
They lived there, yes, but they were not slaves.

>>212947212
Everything they've done over the last 80 years they've done as the equivalent of a sucker punch. They've been waging war on us while lying to us and pretending to be our friends. That's not "master race" behavior, that's cowardly weasel behavior. They can only succeed when they encounter literally no opposition.

>>212945714 (OP)
>his innocent son is killed to burn in hell forever
Cool God you have, kikes.

>>212945767
>>212945884
>>212947173
Ancient Egypt literally INVENTED institutionalized Slavery.
This is a sound-byte repeated by low-information Redditor athishits thinking that they """disproved""" the Bible.

>>212947484
Loser morality from a subverted loser culture.
Even lions sneak up on their prey, retard.

>>212948409
fuck off jew

>>212948409
why do you type... so low IQ? literally? not figuratively? instutionalized? not just regular slavery? why did you quote disproved three times? did trump cowrite your post? sound byte on text?

fucking moron

>>212945952
Those tits make me believe

>be me, god
>send the plagues
>the pharaoh considers freeing the slaves
>harden his heart so he won't change his mind
What did he mean by this?

Its ok since it never happened lol

>>212949797
Because he knew he should have freed the slaves, but chose not to, God made sure Pharaoh learned the lesson of disobedience. Which was death.

Ohh sweet, this is the thread I needed, seeing the responses. So guys, I lost my fedora. Know of any good online shops that sell for xxxxl sizes?

>>212949829
So once the pharaoh wanted to free the slaves (presumably because he learned his lesson), god changed his mind.
Old testament god was a real dick

>>212949829
more like god interfered in making pharaoh an asshole to push his own agenda

>>212949882
Yep.

>>212949890
Yep.

>>212949552
>why do you type... so low IQ?
>instutionalized

I literally even spelled it CORRECTLY for you in the post you're replying to, you absolute slack-jawed knuckle-dragger.
I wouldn't be talking about "IQ" if I were you.

>>212948628
Interesting you immediately dehumanize them. You're right to do so because their behavior certainly isn't that of human beings.

>>212945767
Acktually the Jews built the pyramids and saying otherwise is antisemitic

>THERE CAN BE MIRACLES... WHEN JEWS BELIEVEEEE

Is it me or the lyrics too on the nose?

>>212945952
You know it just occurred to me i dont know why he walked on water. Was it just to one up moses?

>>212950427
It was to show that if you have faith, you can do pretty much anything. Mind you, I said have faith. Not ‘have faith in a grandfather god judging you for everything you do.’

>>212950454
Yeah but what were the circumstances? He just went down to the lake to show off one day?

>>212950464
It’s easy to think “hey, in a calm, breezy day, maybe even I can walk on water!!” Kind of harder to believe when it’s a torrential downpour with waves tossing the boat you’re in like a rag doll. Hence why he chose that moment to do so.

>>212945767
What's likely is that they were required to do corvee work as was usual at the time and this was indistinguishable from slavery in their entitled Jewish mind.

>>212950497
I wonder if he did a few practice runs to be sure he could do it and not slip and fall.

>>212950454
>>212950464
it wasn't that any individual who had faith can fly around like superman. He saved drowning sailors who would've perished.
It was Christ's compassion and by virtue of being God spared the lives who would've died miserably. Through his love, through his ability, he showed what he's capable of. He didn't just walk out on a lake during a sunny day to make people believe. He saved lives through intervention. Read the Bible you dumb faggots.

>>212950540
Satan dared him to jump off a cliff, and by virtue of being God incarnate, the son of God, surely he would float down miraculously. When Jesus starved, the devil claimed he should've demanded stones become bread, for if he's God incarnate matter itself will bend to his wish. Jesus wasn't some spoiled child who got what he wanted when he wanted, everything was in divine timing and God was not to be tested. You must never tempt God to save you to see if God will protect you, that's not how this works. When you're in need, it will be, you can't just jump off a roof and expect to fly.

>>212949797
>looking for consistency in old testament God

>>212948409
Nobody is trying to debooonk Egypt having a ton of slaves, the point is that Egypt having slaves doesn't mean Exodus happened.

>>212950798
you test God as if you're someone to demand something from him. You're an ant demanding a kid with a magnifying glass gives you sugar cubes or else you'll crawl up his shorts.
It's not your place you blasphemous retard.

>>212950825
>everything god does is correct and perfect because... because it just is, okay?

The whole Jewish religion is just canaanite larping

>>212950879
Yes.

>>212950890
doesn't matter what kikes do, Christ suffered for all of us, forgave all of us. Whatever blasphemous larpers act in evil has no sway over the fact the Son of God was here, proved himself, suffered for us, and still forgave us despite us torturing him. We ripped his flesh off from his body and all he ever did was heal. He still forgave us.

>God hardens Pharaoh's heart
Thought you had free will, bitch? Not on my watch

>>212945714 (OP)
All fedora-religion argument aside, this was the last great animated film. Pure kino start to finish. God, I wish Dreamworks would have made more movies in this vein

>>212950798
The inconsistencies are there because originally the OT God was a combination of a couple of different gods (mainly El and Yahweh) and monotheism was a retcon. Most of the time the OT God having a spergout about people worshiping other gods as well as him is not because other gods are false, it's because the Yahweh cultists wanted the polytheistic Israelites to only worship their preferred god from the pantheon. The idea that God is all powerful and omniscient and there are no other gods at all is a very late invention, relatively speaking.
In fact, since we are talking about Exodus, there are even remnants of the old polytheistic worldview still left in the current Bible, for example the passage where they talk about how the Lord is greater than all the other gods (Ex 18:11). There is no talk of all the other gods being fake, just celebrating that the God of the Israelites beat the rest in a contest of power. Yahweh is a storm/warrior god, so that's his area of expertise. Also, back then gods used to be much more localized and tied to certain geographical areas, so it's even more impressive narratively that Yahweh managed to beat the Egyptian gods on their home turf.

>>212950991
Yeah one of the main messages of Jesus is that religion is bullshit and being a good person is what matters. He dumps on priests who care too much about petty rules while praising virtuous samaritans and romans.

>>212948409
this nigga believes in talking snakes

>>212945714 (OP)
>Rameses, please, you must listen...
>meanwhile, God hardens Rameses's heart

What a dick.

there is no evidence Egyptians ever had jewish slaves.

>>212951018
I don't think that even the New Testament implies there are no other gods, just that God is the true god. In the same sense that one could say Stannis is the one true king of Westeros.
And not to be a pedant, but it certainly seems as though the preferred god of the Biblically inclined Israelites was the true God simply based on outcomes

>>212951018
I'm not saying the OT is irrelevant, all I'm saying is that NT is where it matters. OT is for the roots, the new testament is where it counts, and what devides us from Judaism. They're a failed cult because they murdered their savior believing he was blaspheming their faith when in reality he was here to save us all. Which pissed them off and went against their chosen one egotism. God declared all who have faith will be saved, it's not in your blood or heritage. You can't be born into salvation, do evil, and expect to cheat God. I admire how the jews don't believe in an afterlife, this life we have is what we must give thanks for, what's frustrating is how jews believe they can trick God out of strict rules established in their own religion. Christ broke the rules, they murdered him, he resurrected, and they've been seething ever since. I hold as much conviction for jews the same i have for muslims. They enjoy aspects of our religion but ultimately differ in an irreconcilable way. They're close but have lost the plot.

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>>212951089
Yahweh even had a wife that just got swept under the rug lol.

>>212945714 (OP)
Daily Reminder that the Jews were only able to revolt since Egypt came off from a devastating war against the sea-people. Ghe war caused massive loses on Egypt and literally weakened the Empire.

>>212951037
all the while hasids believe they can sin all year round so long as they slaughter a chicken. This is the division of Judaism and Christianity. Christ made it clear you cannot trick God out of your evil, you gotta confess and do better moving forward. All can be forgiven but you truly gotta do better. You can't just blood sacrifice an animal and return to raping children. That's the deep line in the sand between Jews and Christians.
The Bible itself is very clear you're better off studying alone than following a Church that bastardizes the word of God.

>>212951132
>all the while hasids believe they can sin all year round so long as they slaughter a chicken
That's just catholicism, except replace the chicken with a confession.

>>212951157
>UNTIL I BREAK UNTIL I YIELD
...which didn't happen becaue Yahweh hardened his heart and made it impossible. The whole thing was just torture.

>>212951117
Don't know of any biblical basis for that. I'm sure that there are plenty of off-shoots that claims that to be the case but there are modern off-shoots of Christianity that claim that Israelites sailed to the Americas. There's no accounting for random schizo claims in an environment in which anyone who could eventually get something they said written down could be considered a prophet

>>212951161
Confession has to include genuine repentance; ie you have to actually be remorseful and not intend to do X again. Not even remotely the same thing

>>212951186
No, we're talking about pre-biblical Israelite myths. Before Yahweh was the only god and before the other gods got demoted to angels and heroes.

>>212951186
>Don't know of any biblical basis for that.
Anon, the entire point is that the Bible is a retconned narrative (somewhere around and after the Babylonian exile when the Yahweh devotees finally took over and turned the religion monotheistic), so of course you won't find biblical basis for (most of) the things they retconned. You need archaeological and extra-biblical evidence to find out about these things.

>>212951219
nuhhuh, the priest said I'm absolved and that's how most people understand it.

>>212951219
On paper but not in practice.

>>212950991
Have you ever actually read the Bible?

>>212951161
Catholics pray to idols, dont you dare conflate me to some congregation of blasphemy to make a point. I'm not a baptist who never read the Bible, im not a Catholic who thinks ritual will cleanse my soul. You're attempting to label me among people who don't know they're doing evil to deflate my genuine arguments that majority of people are fucking evil and misinterpreting the bible.
Before you call me a mormon or Jehovah's witness im neither of those either. I study my bible in solitude and maybe one day I'll find a congregation.
How dare you.

>>212951290
lol

>>212951282
If we were in the same room, id ask you to count your teeth before you ask me that again. I'm not perfect by any means whatsoever.

>>212951316
See, this is exactly why I'm asking. You don't write like someone who actually reads and understands it. You are extremely dismissive of the old testament and the Israelite people and their history, which is like a hallmark of performative "Christians" who think that it doesn't matter anymore. You're also extremely arrogant and confrontational, propping yourself up and talking shit at everyone else and immediately threatening violence. If you actually have read the Bible, you sound like someone who treats it like grinding in a video game but your actual belief system and behavior still comes from your own biases.

>>212945714 (OP)
yup, the arabs and the jews are still fighting 4000 years later
its
so fucking
tiresome

>>212945714 (OP)
Why do people always slobber over this movie when the Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston is superior?

>>212950212
Lmao btfo

>>212951363
as if Christ's apostles didn't cut ears with their swords. What modern day people associate as the Israelites are not the biblical Israelites. Isreal as a country cannot exist until the coming of their Messiah, the return of our Messiah. Their start, is the end of ours. Their Messiah is the antichrist guaranteeing an extension of their misinterpretation of the Bible. Christ's return isn't the founding of Israel it's the smiting of those claiming to be his chosen. The true chosen are those that have faith, not some genetic tribe that do rituals to cheat God out of the evils they commit. Until the time of Moshiach the Jews must wander with no nation. What Israel is doing is an advanced kike trick to try and cheat their way into the promised land and anyone claiming to call themselves Christian and supporting the modern state of Israel is in service of the antichrist. You cannot trick God you stupid fucking hardheaded faggot. Those calling themselves Jews are not. The land they call Isreal, is not. Once their Messiah returns, guarantees them 1000 years of peace, fine we can start slaughtering Palestinians if that's what God so chose, but so far you're all a bunch of evil fucking monsters slaughtering children. Call me whatever you want because if that's your idea of what Christianity is, it's clearly a blasphemous deviation that goes against the word of God.
I truly hope you wake up and realize how fucking stupid you truly are.

>>212951472
>as if Christ's apostles didn't cut ears with their swords.
...And in the scene you're referencing Jesus immediately heals the ear and reprimands the disciple for doing it, telling him that "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword". Every post you make just makes it sound less and less likely that you have read the Bible, I hope you understand this. I won't even comment on the rest, it's just pure unhinged rambling from someone full of hate. Jesus himself talks about the old testament and considers it all literally true and important. If you dismiss it, you claim you know better than the Jesus you claim to follow. I don't think that you have actually read the Bible, I'm sorry.

>>212951245
>somewhere around and after the Babylonian exile when the Yahweh devotees finally took over and turned the religion monotheistic
Doesn't the first commandment say 'you shall have no other gods but me'?

>>212951581
>i wont even comment on the rest
if you ignore how what Judaism claims the coming of their Messiah is an exact opposite of the returning of Christ, i can't help you. Study theology. Understand the Bible truly. Don't read some bastardized English version and blindly follow evangelicals. You're in the company of fools.

>>212951581
when the fuck did i ever claim to know more than Christ you deceiving faggot demon. You're putting words in my mouth to justify your retardation. Pray. Read the Bible.

>>212951282
>>212951316
Lmao so “no”

neotrads are the best

>>212951601
That's what the commandment says, but again, the archaeological evidence shows that the ancient Israelites kept being polytheistic, or at least henotheistic (acknowledges many gods but worships a specific one) with varying degrees of Yahweh preference until the exile when the narrative was set in stone that Yahweh is the only god. A lot of the old testament was edited to support this narrative shift. A good example is the fact that the core of Deuteronomy was miraculously "found" during Josiah's reign and later expanded during and after the exile.