>here are my family's coordinates and all their plans Rhaenyra, you can kill them all. just as long as we get to be besties again
What the fuck?
>>212952497 (OP)you wouldn't get it, chuddie
this show is nothing but a greenfag humiliation ritual
>"[Alicent] realized that neither of her sons is suited to rule the realm, and she wants to stop the spinning wheel that is the game of thrones."
- Ryan Condal
>>212952497 (OP)What would you have her do?
>>212952497 (OP)The showrunners already assumed you're 100% on the side of the Blacks, so when Alicent betrays her entire family to join the Blacks you're supposed to clap and say she did the right thing.
>>212952497 (OP)>executive producer Sarah Hess is openly gay, and married writer Talia Osteen in 2014, with whom she has a son.Also lmao at her wife's movie.
How is the “choose your team” marketing going to work this time around now that there isn’t a team green anymore? Aemond is on his own team, Alicent and Helaena are team black, Aegon and Larys have abandoned ship for now, the hightowers bend the knee to daemon and give him Daeron, Alys is team black and helping the dragonseeds. It’s just the Lannister twins and the tranny pirates left.
>>212952497 (OP)fake they didn't have coordinates back in dragon times
>>212953018Bullshit, she was fine with it until they cut her out of the power dynamic
>>212952497 (OP)Her daughter is a pooner. Anyone would have done the same.
>>212953018Also, there's still Daeron who, even in the series, it talked about as this cool, intelligent, level-headed kid.
>>212952497 (OP)>Come on Helaena. Its time to go get forcibly impregnated by a commoner. They don't call us the Brothel Queens for nothing haha.
>>212953462It's sexual liberation, Chud.
>>212953462looing back this actress did a good job at making helaena seem autistic instead of retarded like adult helaena
>>212953127God, all these people deserve to die.
>>212952497 (OP)Inadvertedly the HOTD writers have managed to create a cautionary tale about why you should never ever trust women during wartime or give them authority. It's amazing.
Ryan Condal seems even dumber than D&D like he doesn't get GRRM's writing at all
>>212955001>wartimeEver. These hoes were a blight on every man in their lives, their children, each other, in pretty much every episode.
>>212953018more like
>she thought she would have more power but her EVIL MALE SONS didn't do everything she said so she tried to have them killed
are Daemon and Rhaenyra completely brain damage retarded in season 1?
>everyone knows that Viserys is going to die soon enough and Rhaenyra is supposed to become queen after him
>she flees the capital and puts 0 effort into fortifying her ascension or securing alliances with other nobility
>leaves the capital in the hands of her political enemies for years without keeping track of their plans
why didn't she become Hand? why didn't she stay in KL to keep the greens in check? why didn't she tour the land gathering allies for the obvious eventual coup? did she flee to Dragonstone and stay there because she knew Viserys might disinherit her for marrying Daemon, so she waited until he's too sick to bother?
>>212955691They are, and so is Vizzy T. That's one of the problems with trying to make the Blacks the good faction. They still have to make all the braindead moves they made in the books, but we as the audience are expected to gloss over them.
>>212955691Something something IT WAS HER TURN.
>>212953551Phia is fine. She clearly researched how aspies move, at least in S1. In S2 she doesn't really give a shit anymore, but then again, why should she when the writers don't either.
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>>212953127>Milana “Milk Truck” Vayntrub is in this movie I may have to be a good little goy and give it a watch
>>212952497 (OP)You can almost forgive her for giving up Aemond, he was still her son but he's a cruel fuck. There might even be an argument to be made about Aegon, he's done some bad shit too even though he mostly seemed just an ignorant poorly raised boy trying to live up to sudden expectations and not knowing how.
But selling out Daeron, who she had already abandoned since childhood and knows as nothing but a good young lad, is absolutely unforgivable. She didn't even ask for Rhaenyra to spare him either, she just straight up sacrificed him for Haelena and her own life. Same goes for her brother too, he also did nothing wrong for which he had to die.
>>212953141And Tyland Lannister gets captured, tortured, and mutilated by order of Rhaenyra yet he survives the war to later serve her son as hand of the king
In the book, Tyland serves Aegon III because it’s the sensible thing to do, but in the show Tyland will serve Rhaenyra’s son because he did a heckin misogyny but sees the error of his ways and needs to atone for his sins
>>212958136You will never be a woman
>>212957873Parents shape their children. There's some naturea aspect to it for sure but it's mostly nurture. The two Targtower men ended up being disturbed individuals because Alicent was their mother and Viserys was a stranger and because they were raised to think the sword of Damocles was hanging over their heads forever. Helena was largely spared of this by being a woman who's just allowed to go be with her children.
Alicent and Viserys fucked the Greens kids up with their bullshit. Aegon was already an alcoholic as a pre-teen, you don't become like this unless something is fucking you up. The show even points this out by saying Daeron somehow ended up being stalwart and kind, the one son who didn't grow up under Alicent's care and the shitty family squabble.
>>212953018>forgets about son #3>casts a tranny as son #3What did faggots mean by this?
>>212958402He doesn't acknowledge Daeron as a son.
>>212952497 (OP)Shebis the most boring character of this show
>>212952497 (OP)gotta kill your family to be a proper feminist
>>212952497 (OP)She already murdered one of her children, what's three more?
>>212952497 (OP)Makes perfect sense, it's the logical endpoint of 3rd wave feminism. Destroying the family unit just to chase something that at the end of the day is absolutely worthless in comparison.
>>212952497 (OP)she's so hot though
If my lesbian mother wrote a story where a mother character went to her ex gf agreed it was okay to kill her sons because they had a slight disagreement I would be VERY worried.
>>212957873Is S3 out or something?
>>212952822As it should be.
>>212955691Because Rhaenyra’s character flaw is that she wants to sleep around and doesn’t think she should suffer the consequences for doing so
>alienates her own bodyguard>strains her family’s relationship with an important ally (Velaryons)>ignores court politics and goes to Dragonstone where no one will tell her to stop sleeping aroundand STILL expects to just waltz onto the throne because it’s her “right.” In short, she’s a feminist fantasy
Rhaenyra isn’t willing to give up what she wants for duty, but the show frames this as backwards patriarchal Westeros putting a liberated woman down
>>212962155>Rhaenyra isn’t willing to give up what she wants for duty, but the show frames this as backwards patriarchal Westeros putting a liberated woman downI think this is what any normal person with IQ above 90 will take away from the show. The restrictions placed against Rhaenyra mostly boil down to "if you're gonna be queen of the country don't be a promiscious irresponsible lying whore who turns away all her allies and who can't even be honest about who fathered your children" which to a member of the MODERN AUDIENCE sounds like literally Hitler.
>wHaT iF rHaEnYs CaMe ThRoUgH tHe FlOoR oN a DrAgOn?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd MySaRiA kIsSeD oUt Of NoWhErE?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd AlLiCeNt MaDe Up AnD rAn OfF tO eSsOs?!
Fuck this bitch with a BBC
>>212952497 (OP)This is the quality of modern television writing.
>>212962603Green-Red is the only way, all other factions are faggots
>>212962603I just hate Targshits.
Reminder that sex scene between Viserys and Alicent was the first scene Paddy and Emily shot together.
I bet Paddy thinks about that day a lot.
>>212962603>Dance of Dragonsliterally everyone involved is a retarded faggot, supporting any side except the Shepard means you're a direction brained goyslave desperate to make up excuses to serve foreigners
>Blackfyre RebellionDaeron is king by Andal law and by all known information the superior leader
>Robert's Rebellionall fucking Targshits must fucking hang
>>212962603Stannis is Green-Red, therefore so am I.
>>212952822I don't blame the producers for siding with the obvious good guy of the story but they went full retard in s2.
>>212963005>literally everyone involved is a retarded faggot, supporting any side except the Shepard means you're a direction brained goyslave desperate to make up excuses to serve foreigners>all fucking Targshits must fucking hangbased
>Daeron is king by Andal lawThe crazy thing is, is that it should be Daena, but, people forget about her because she's such a slut.
>>212962603Black-red.
It's also noticeable that low-intellectual greencel made this.
>>212963352>low-intellectual
Tessarion.....my beloved...
>>212963352....im trans btw.
>>212958318>alcoholic as pre-teen, you don't become like this unless something is fucking you up. Pussy, he was at age when real men lead armies. It is absolutely normal to drink alcohol at his age. He became alcoholic because he is lazy and weak-willed.
Anyone is excited for the girl daeron becoming the new nettles? Supre goon kino
>>212963526she is acceptable when not larping as a dude
Quite honestly the worst show I’ve ever watched. I couldn’t finish season 2. Aegon was literally the only interesting character
>>212952822Yes, and that's the only good thing about it.
>>212963352Unironically though, what is the logic behind the black-red position, I don't get it either.
>>212963595Aegon is as bad as the other characters and I don't understand why people pretend he is interesting. The actor is great but you can say the same about Rhaenyra and they can't save the awful writing.
>and then she should come out of the floor on her dragon!
>>212962603Green black. No one tells me who I should like. Not popular consensus, not modern morality and least of all the author
>>212963626Rhaenyra is the chosen heir.
Daeron is the chosen heir.
will S3 be worth watching for him and big V? they'll at least faithfully adapt his kickass death scene right?
>>212963641>but you can say the same about RhaenyraCan we? Maybe she is a great actress, but she's been given absolutely nothing to work with. At least Tom goes through pretty much every emotion.
>>212963666His death is pretty humiliating so ofc its going to be 100% adapted from the book, same for Cole but I don't think watching the show for him is worth it after the shitty s1 and s2 changes.
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>>212963664>Daeron is the chosen heir.By who? Not by his father, he wanted that motherfucker gone so bad he created a war that lasted for generations.
>>212963688You said it yourself, she is a great actress but the writing is just trash and if you enjoy Aegons acting that's understandable but I don't consider him a good or interesting character but he is factually a great performer.
>>212962603Green-Black giga Chad
>>212963641Green fans so insecure that they need to praise their characters even if it nothing special. Looks pathetic!
>>212962603Double black. Monarch said it. I believe it. Simple as. Everyone else is a democratist and most likely a homosexual.
>>212963721Not so fast. His father didn't like him, but he never disowned him as heir or prince of Dragonstone. He threatened to do so, but never did.
>>212963874>Everyone else is a democratist and most likely a homosexual.based to be honest
>>212963902Because he knew his nobles would support Daeron
It's honestly a miracle that the Targs kept the throne for as long as they did after they lost their dragons.
>>212963902He tried to have him disinherited by accusing his mother of being a whore, and him of being a bastard. There was a trial though, and he lost.
>>212963966the dance was so gruesome people wanted peace no matter what
>>212963641> Aegon is as bad as the other charactersNah he’s actually really interesting and everyone else is boring. He’s not coddled by the writers, he actually faces consequences for his actions and he feels like a human and not a wattpad OC. People like him for the same reason people like Theon or Jaime, he has an arc and changes as a person. But you strike me as more of a danyfag or a Jon snow guy
>>212963923Rebellion happened many years after Daeron became king. Aegon couldn't see that far into the future, especially since personal grudges and relationships played a big role.
If Aegon wanted to put bastard on the throne, he would have officially changed the heir. Considering that never happened, Daemon's only "legitimacy" is that idiotic "I have a sword!"
>>212964079Why do you think Aegon IV made all of his bastards legitimate?
>>212963990Aegon never had anything to do with it officially. He probably spread rumors, but that all. He still didn't dare disinherit his son.
>>212952497 (OP)She wanted that snatch.
>>212964232Yes, but obviously his wish wasn't for Daeron to inherit due to his scheming, and a spiteful deathbed decree. So again, Daeron was chosen by whom?
>>212964224I have no idea. He sympathized with some. Aegon was seriously ill in his last years, who knows what was in the brain of a man who suffers from pain? Maybe "redemption" moment. Maybe he wanted to spit in his son's face one last time.
>>212964293It doesn't matter whether Aegon loved his son or not. He could hate him with all his heart, but not disinherit him for any reason. Daeron remained the heir his father chose, decision that was never changed.
>>212964023Why redditors think that 4chan will share their faggot tastes?
Aegon not Jaime or Theon, he's character from teen movie about 20 year old idiot depressed because his dad didn't teach him baseball.
>>212958402Damn, it's true. I guess that's another show dropped.
>>212964611You are a seething blackfag who is salty because your favorites fell off and Aegon stole the spotlight
>>212964410Viserys must impregnate both of them.Can we arrange that?
Would you rather live under Rhaenyra and Alicent, the Lesbian Queens of Westeros? Or Rickon and Dickon, the Gay Emperors of Essos?
>>212957873Yeah I was shocked when that happened. Not like I should be, but it's amazing just how depraved these writers are. Greetings from Kazakhstan.
>>212964721>You are a seething blackfag who is salty because your favorites fell off and Aegon stole the spotlight
This show should just turn into the adventures or Gwayne and Criston
>>212964752Lesbians would dive Westeros off a cliff.
How many times you rewatched scenes with Aemond over the past 2 years?
>>212965028this about 10 times
>>212963487>Pussy, he was at age when real men lead armies. It is absolutely normal to drink alcohol at his age. He became alcoholic because he is lazy and weak-willed.nigga hes been sneaking off to get drunk alone in the eps where he's like 11 years old shut up with your man larp
Imagine soon they kill the only character who made sense and replace him with ugly trans.
This show is cursed.
>>212953127There's an awful lot of loop-holing for people who act like they're the most pristine active religious group.
>it's sinful for women to show their hair, it's a sexual asset meant only for their husband>so buy a human hair wig to wear over your own hair insteadIt's like half their shtick is 'we're better than the goys because we don't do certain things - we get the goys to do them for us :^)'
>>212963641>Aegon is as bad as the other characters and I don't understand why people pretend he is interesting.>The actor is great but you can say the same about Rhaenyrano i can't
some actors have the ability to elevate subpar material and i don't believe Emma D'Arcy succeeded in doing that in s2
then again that's just how i see it, sorry if that makes you mad
>>212964940Way to out yourself as a Redditor idiot
>>212965233Aegon's scenes saved by the actors around him. The scene after Blood and Cheese is terribly acted. You're blind if you can't see.
>>212965329boy you really grew resentful after your favorite character stopped being the sole center of attention, didn't you? sorry
>>212965268Just checked, it didn't take long.TGRedditor sits here. All "Aegon praise" posts from samefag with manic fixation on flop character played by flop actor for flop show.
>>212965028I rewatch only Helaena's scenes
this show is absolutely cooked. the premier ratings for season 3 will be the lowest yet for this dogshit show.
>>212965782Probably. But if they show dragon battles in the trailer who knows.
Daeron will have female voice. Am I right? They can hide her boobs, but what about the voice?
>>212952497 (OP)its written by women
men know that the character would not act like this
but women are retarded
>>212965996did you saw the leaked pic? they are not even hiding her tits
>>212965996>They can hide her boobsThey could have, but they didn't, as seen in the leaked photos.
>>212966131>>212966133Lords, I haven't seen these photo, only video. Is it that bad?
>>212952497 (OP)This shit is so ass I read the book last summer and I've already forgotten 70% of it. Probably 90% of the show
>>212966288Depend what you mean by bad, for some reason she is in chains with fucking Daemon... You can see her nice tits tho.
>>212966288It's not like they're out in the open, but the outline is obviously there.
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>>212966326She wasn't in chains.
>>212966424isnt she bounded in this pic
>>212966385?
If Daeron's age is lowered to pre-puberty, it might work somehow.
>brother tells her daeron is the only good son and is le decent and good and kind
>he's played by a literal woman
Men bad again
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>>212952822>GRRM will go on about Aragorns tax policy, but he will stop at nothing when it comes to writting bullshit to make sure his favorite characters winYou cant tell me the only reason the blacks won the war wasnt because Martin wanted them to win.
>lmao just infinite spawning riverlands soldiers
>>212966440Of course not.
All they had to do was follow the book.
>>212966473He can't be the same age as Joffrey.
>>212966473I think it's not a winning strategy to complain about the casting to normies that are pro trans. They'll use excuses like how Targs are sort of Elvish androgynous looking femboys or whatever, and you won't be able to convince them that actor like that Hunter tranny can't be made to look Targaryen. They don't actually care about accuracy btw, they support black Velaryons.
You get them on the plot being retarded. I posted years ago about what good characterisations within HOTD could look like. Daeron going from shy goody two shoes to a daring prince to cycling through despair and guilt because he blames himself for the death of Maelor before hitting rock bottom and signing the death warrant for Ser Hugh is a very simple story you can tell. Nothing from the lore is broken, you're just extending the wiki bullet points for the screen in ways that explain why certain things did or didn't happen.
Honestly I'm glad they fucked the show up this badly. Maybe it'd get cancelled and someone later down the line who's competent can actually try and emulate George's writing style.
>>212966292It's worse for me, my headcanon 7 season adaptation still comes back to me in dreams and random thoughts during the day. Maybe you guys were right when you labelled me an autist.
>>212966939This is it for the series, if Dunk & Egg isn’t at least as good as GoT S1-4 nobody will ever give this shitshow a chance except the sub room temp IQ’s
>>212966939>use excuses like how Targs are sort of Elvish androgynous looking femboys or whateverThis was not the case. Targaryen men are called handsome, but they are never called "feminine". A handsome man is masculine.
>>212963044>the dance>good guyslmao
Maybe you're wrong to complain so much. Strong Boys was also bad cast, but people got used to it. Harry got a better haircut in s2 and became much more handsome. Luke's role was rewritten so that he would not be "athletic" but a loser, it worked out well.
Daeron may be extremely timid and shy guy who follows orders and with her fragility it will work.
>>212967888The casting for this entire show has been dogshit. Even both pairs for Rhaenyra and Alicent. Especially for Laena's children, who look so little like Daemon that it's hilarious.
>>212967739It's an unwinnable debate with these types. Know which hills they're willing to die on and avoid them. It's futile. You can bring up Maegor all you want but their fanfic drawings say otherwise. Again, they don't care about lore accuracy. They were defending black Velaryons, they'll pull whatever they can out of their ass to justify the agenda once it's set for them. Remember when people were arguing that they could have been mixed with the Summer Islanders or how we don't know what Velaryons looked like back in Valyria despite the actual descriptions in the books. It's cope. You won't win them over. Even if you get them to admit it they'll say that they don't care and that how well they act matters. They'll say that Ned was cast too old or Robb should've been ginger. It's pointless. Instead beat them over the head with how retarded the plot is and how George hates the changes.
>>212967174The sad part is that it didn't have to be this way. We could've genuinely got 7 seasons of TV on par with or potentially surpassing GOT's first 4 seasons. The pieces were there, instead we got wattpad midwits abusing the source material.
>>212967817This. The focus of the show should be the tragedy of it all, a bunch of decent well meaning lords, ladies and small folk across the realm, who've known nothing but peace for generations, being thrown into a hellish civil war because two siblings got a bit carried away with a game of musical chairs. If this was adapted right, fans would be weeping more over Honeywine and Fishfeed than they ever would over the Battle of the Gullet. We should've already cared about Owen Costayne, Tom Flowers, Emory Hill, Alan Beesbury, etc. Instead the fans are so deprived they're celebrating over a potential glimpse of Daeron 3 seasons in. Not a character arc, no, a fucking Easter Egg. They turned Robb Stark into a glup shitto.
>>212967817Well the televised version of the Dance very clearly has the good guys, there's no stepping around that.
There's one claimant who constantly kisses children on the forehead and hugs them, who was burdened by a prophecy that forces you to claim the throne in order to save the world, who saw the White Stag as a confirmation of right to rule and who is openly favored by the Old gods, who is supported by every designated good guy, whose sensibilities cutely dovetail with modern sensibilities, and who has heroic uplifting music playing in all the important scenes.
On the other hand you have the other claimant that's awkward with his trueborn kids while leaving his bastard kids to rot in the gutter, who knows nothing about the prophecy that will save the world, who never had any signs from the gods, who is supported by every designated sleazy evil guy, whose sensibilities conveniently always align with the evil chud patriarchal worldview, and who has hilariously blatant evil guy music playing in all the important scenes.
Sure the Dance should not be a good vs evil tale but the show 100% is.
>>212953462>fkn listen here u little shit, my dragon mistress and I have been doing this fetish play since before you were born and if your vision-having ass prevents me from FINALLY getting off then so help me the mother I'll punt you out of that tower myself, yeah
>>212966571Honestly adapting the book 1 to 1 will be a bare bones anthology series. You have to build on top of it. Connect the dots. Use the footnote characters to create depth and conveniently fill in plotholes. Emory Hill is a nobody Lannister bastard that dies at the Fishfeeds. Why not introduce him as a squire for Tyland Lannister? Have him get a father son bonding moment with Lord Caswell after he sees him looking sad after someone like Aemond makes a bastard joke. Caswell opens up about his own bastard son and the guilt he feels. Not much screen time honestly. Why? Because Tyland can give Emory a task to capture some lords during the Green coup, leading to a tense where he catches Caswell trying to escape, he thinks about letting him go but is interrupted by Clarent Crakehall, another squire, who congratulates him for the catch. Emory is rewarded with a knighthood, given honours and tasked with taking the gold to Lannisport. Along the way he stops at Bitterbridge meeting with Lady Caswell, he bites his tongue. When he reaches Highgarden, news comes out of Lord Caswell being executed and we see the guilt eat him up.
He has existential crisis type thoughts like
>Is this what being a knight means?Classic GRRM stuff. That journey to Lannisport takes place during season 2, with season 3 being the invasion of the Riverlands by the Westerland forces. He loses several other father figures in Jason Lannister and Adrian Tarbeck. Through his experiences in War and conversations with these men, we see him grow as a person. At the Lakeshore, he takes the reigns when Humfrey Lefford turns senile, organising and leading the defense against the attacks. To explain why the Winter Wolves lost so many men we can have Emory fight back well. He's a competent leader, an honourable man, loved by his men. He wins in a fair mid battle duel against Forrest Frey. But in the end he dies, drowning under the weight of thousands.
We could've had peak TV
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>>212962603Double black BAYBEEE
>>212952822In any competent Dance adaptation, the Throne slicing up Viserys during the Driftmark inheritance trial when he tries to deny the truth about Rhaenyra's kids, that should've been the #1 moment of the first season. The fact this show actually went ahead and reversed that scene into Vissy T finally finding strength to sit the throne without any injuries by defending Rhaenyra, it only proves this adaptation is dogshit and completely uninterested in actually telling the story.
>>212968985No I mean they changed shit that was already given. Building onto things is fine, but when you change things it ruins the greater narrative that was provided.
>>212955691She left because she was tired of the mean gossip about her children being bastards. Turns out when your in court all the time with your black husband and 3 snow white children it causes problems with the succession go figure.
AI ASOIAF when? At this point AI slop is better than this LGBTDEI slop we keep getting
>>212972839I would 100% be on the side of the artists in the war against AI if they weren't intentionally sabotaging stories I like.
>>212962603Green-red.
Nice work making that anon we should do more high effort stuff like this.
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>>212965096 Just save the GIFs.
>>212966424nta anon, but they aren’t going to bound an actors hands behind their back when they aren’t visible in the shot and the actor can just pretend they are bound
>>212964650>Superman might not even make a profit, and after that, it's all DC C-listers for the foreseeable future>Last Mortal Kombat game was a bomb>Looney Tunes movie bombed>After winning back a lot of good will following the disastrous GoT finale, S2 of HotD has pissed away it all away again>Last Matrix movie was intentionally made to be a franchise-destroying poison pill >Decide to make a Furiosa movie that nobody asked for instead of an Old Max movie with Mel, and surprise surprise, it was a huge bombOn a scale of 1-10, how fucked is WB?
>>212975769>Looney Tunes movie bombedThere was a Looney Tunes movie?
>>212953127>>212957749Please tell me theres a nude scene.
>>212955691If her and Daemon spent 6 months flying to the major lords after their marriage, she would never have been challenged at all. We know she learned about her ancestors doing this kind of tour and the efficacy of it.
>>212976038Two, now that I think of it. I forgot about Space Jam 2, but there was another more recent one with Daffy and Porky called "The Day the Earth Blew Up".
>>212962487>>212976054To be fair, the thing Rhaenyra is in hot water for (sleeping around) would be 100% fine if she were a man, so there’s a plausible feminist critique here
But like you said, Rhaenyra isn’t interested in doing ANY of the legwork to keep her realm running smoothly. Any effort on her part to cement her succession probably could have avoided the war
>>212963666Gods eye isn’t this season, season ends with Daemon meeting with the winter wolves.
>>212977355The pace is going to be so off for season 4, gods eye should have been the final episode of season 3, not just shoved randomly in the beginning to middle of season 4.
>>212977702>season 4Maybe by 2035 it will be out.
God the Velaryons come off as the dumbest motherfuckers and cucks ever.
Like not only does the princess shit out bastards yet claim they're legit so they can take their birthright, but both Laenor and Laena die mysteriously then Rhaenyra and Daemon break all traditions and marry barely a month after, how did this not fucking piss Corlys off enough to ditch team Black.
I get being ambitious and power hungry for the throne, but there should be a limit.
>>212962603Green-black. If they bear the sword, they're king. Simple as.
>>212978503Season 4 will air June-August of 2028 if they continue the same pace as the previous seasons.
>>212952822>humiliation ritualqrd on this new zoomer word?
why not just say "humiliation"?
>>212977355What’s Aemond going to do all season other than burning the riverlands if Alys is going to be Daemons mistress instead?
>>212965186really makes for a trustworthy people when they have precepts in their own religion that let them literally trick God. Surely they wouldn't employ such tactics against gentiles.
Even normies are starting to complain about how the writing feels like a Rhaenyra/Alicent shipping fanfic
>>212977306>so there’s a plausible feminist critique hereFeminists love to cry about double standard, but women sleeping around and possibly birthing bastards IS a major dynastic problem. If a man cheats and fathers a bastards that's it, chances are no one will ever see that kid and the mother again, if a woman does it and cuckholds her husband then she's potentially singlehandedly ending centuries-old bloodlines on a whim. And even when it's the woman the one with the noblest blood, like Rhaenyra, she's still creating major problems that could lead to distrust, unrest or even war, since those kind of marriages are 100% carefully laid out diplomatic pacts between two powerful houses.
>>212979379>new zoomer wordHello newfriend
>>212980370Call me a woke prude but I don't really think it's a strong argument that women sleeping around is worse because at least the king can kill the mother and his child to keep the dynasty secure
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Finally watched this shit for the first time a couple weeks ago. Had a flu and binged it in a weekend.
Awful television
>>212980444 (trips)
But anon, we’ve been talking about Jewish humiliation rituals on /pol/ for over a decade
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>>212980488You gonna keep playing this game when I can easily call your bluff?
>>212980028After much research the average normalfag consensus seems to be as follows post season 2:
>DaemonThey hated the Harrenhal plot, it along with Daemon were boring. He no longer acts like the rogue prince they all loved in season 1 and the average normalfag watching is a Daemyra shipper so the lack of them together pissed them off even more. They want him to be the guy that does war crimes because it’s for the ones that he loves. They also are pissed off he hasn’t had many scenes with his daughters.
>Rhaenyra They feel frustrated with her character not doing anything and not being the girl boss out for revenge that was promised in the final of season 1. They don’t want Condals gentle white washed Rhaenyra, they want Dany 2.0.
>AegonThe average normalfag still hates him and will never forgive his actions in s1 no matter how much the writers try to humanise him in the upcoming season like they are saying they will but many admit he was one of the best written characters of the season.
>ColeNothing much has changed, they still hate him and are excited and hoping for his death in the upcoming season.
>AemondHated even more by the average normalfag because of Rhaenys. Lost a lot of support with the greenfag normalfags because of what he did to Aegon, one of the worst written characters for the season. Like Daemon they want Aemond to be committing war crimes because of his loyalty and love for his family. Brothel scene disturbed a lot of people for different reasons. Many Aemondfags have now converted to Aegonfags.
>AlicentOnly normalfags that like her are rhaenicent shippers and they are happy with the scenes they got together. Normalfag greenfags now dislike her for selling her kids out specially Daeron.
>HelaenaNobody really cares about her other than shippers and people that self insert as her, they are disappointed that she didn’t ride dreamfyre.
>OttoHe’s not really mentioned other than confusion over why he cared about the ratcatchers
>>212980468>Awful televisionAlways has been. The praise S1 got confused me endlessly. It was, at best, a show that had potential to get good.
>>212980748paddy as vizzy was good the dragons were cool, surely you're not contrarian enough to deny that
>>212980778Vizzy's actor was good at elevating the material he was given. And the material he was given was the same couple of canned lines over and over again. Especially in his interactions with Daemon.
>I HAVE ALWAYS DEFENDED YOUWas said more times than the infamous
>What would you have me do?
>>212980675Rhaenys was still the "YAAAS KWEEN" character, despite of her stupidity and hypocrisy. And people continue to not care about any of the characters played by black actors. I don't blame them. For all of their progressive politics, the writers just don't bother with black characters. Their only role in the show is to go
>Yas massa Rhaenyra, you is so good and wise, mmm-hmmm gurrrl
>>212980826this seems like kind of a random grievance to have. the major issues with s1 are all related to the showrunners trying to meet some imaginary exception of "GoT spectacle" so they have dragons exploding through the ground and random foot fetish stuff. the characterization of vizzy is meant to show he is a shit king so the "WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO" is apt, as opposed to when Rhaenyra uses it in s2 unless she's also meant to be shown as an indecisive shit ruler, which might as well be the case considering how the story plays out.
>>212980906There are plenty of grievances I have. My point is that the "good" scenes are generally scenes that have already happened or will happen later, just in different rooms, with different Vizzy prosthetics. It was all very repetitive.
>>212953127>The Shabbos Goy (2019) (movie): God literally forbids she turn off a vibrator gone rogue, so an Orthodox Jew sets out on a quest to find someone who can.
>>212955691>After Aegon's Conquest of the Seven Kingdoms, Dragonstone in the newly-created crownlands served as the seat of their heir apparentMost Targ heirs went to Dragonstone to rule until the king died
>>212980973Probably not the best thing to do politically. Nyra can't tolerate discomfort, and Daemon is arrogant. They each left the Greens to run the court for nearly a decade, one taking the path of the least resistance, and the other thinking it's a done deal anyway.
It's very much Stannis's school of politicking. Brood in the shadows for years and expect everyone to fall in line because it's your turn.
>>212980826I have a hard time believing this. If you mean Vizzy specifically sure, but multiple characters drop the 'what would you have me do' more than once
>>212980898Rhaenys is such a weird choice for a bad ass Yass queen. Can you imagine Olenna, Cersei or Catelyn supporting a queen who not only did they have more of a right to be queen instead of, but who as far as they know KILLED their son. Or to tell their husbands bastards how handsome they are?
>>212981123The only way for this to go in any way that makes sense, is to explicitly make Corlys and Rhaenys extremely embarrassed and estranged from their faggot son. Of course, Condal and Hess can't do that, because they're the good guys, so they have to have 21st century beliefs.
>>212981120I worded that badly. Viserys has the exact same dialogue with Daemon more times than characters is S2 say "what would you have me do". It's just that Paddy is extremely competent, so it isn't felt as hard. The writing is still garbage though.
>>212980898Normalfags don’t like the fact that Baela and Rhaena are too similar in personality unlike the book, they want Rhaena to be allowed to be feminine and meek. It’s now been confirmed Rhaena is Nettles and will be wearing sheepskins next season which they don’t like. Also because a massive part of nettles arc is the fact that she’s lowborn, probably doesn’t even Valyrian ancestry and is still a dragonrider. Making Rhaena nettles removes all that, she now just a highborn girl getting dirty and dressing different. They also wanted Baela and Jace to have more romantic scenes before he dies in the first episode next season.
>>212977306>the thing Rhaenyra is in hot water for (sleeping around) would be 100% fine if she were a man, so there’s a plausible feminist critique hereIt's really not. It's biology, not patriarchy.
When a male heir to the throne goes to fuck a random slag in a whorehouse before marriage, it's very easy to sweep it under the rug. There's never any ironclad proof that he actually did it because his penis isn't marked or wounded or split by the act, and even if a bastard child gets born you still cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that it is that man's child. And if the bastard is his, you can just kill it or disinherit it or send it to the wall when it comes of age.
When a female heir to the throne goes to fuck a stranger before marriage, you can't sweep that under the rug. Her maidenhood is gone forever and any maester needs 3 seconds to check between her legs and realize she's been spoiled before marriage, her hymen is gone. This "checking" process was fairly common in medieval times to ascertain virginity. The proof of what happened is right there between her legs, and no suitor can ever be sure that future children are truly his. And if conception after this whorehouse fucking happens, guess what, she cannot say it's not her child because it's GROWING INSIDE HER GODDAMN WOMB, EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
A male can lie and say a child isn't his, but a woman cannot ever lie because her own body is the evidence. So yeah Rhaenyra, you were not born a man - you were born a woman.
This male privilege isn't born out of some evil or out of frat culture - this difference is born out of biological differences. Because men have penises, while women have vaginas and hymens and wombs and they give birth to the children.
>>212981242I always read the twins as having daddy issues. Baela tries her hardest to emulate Daemon, while Rhaena either fucks men who remind her of her dad (Corwyn, a vicious warrior with a valyrian sword, middle aged father of two daughters), or men who would piss her father off (Garmund).
>>212981307Hymens are not a reliable way of seeing if someone was a virgin or not, especially when they are easily torn by something as simple as horse riding. The most standard practice is having a witness on the night of the wedding to make sure the couple did have sex, and then have a witness at the birth to make sure the child isn’t switched. In fact having a witness at a royal birth was only abolished less than 100 years ago.
>>212981366Highborn ladies rarely physically exerted themselves enough at that age in activities that would break their hymen. It's not like they did jumping jacks and rough horse riding every 10 minutes.
Next season will be even worse since GRRM and the show runner got into a slap fight and he left the show in a tizzy.
>>212981392Highborn ladies did ride horses, especially during upper class activities like hunts, they rode side saddle or sometimes rode like men with a false leg to make it look like she was riding side saddle. Ann Boleyn being such a skilled horsewoman at hunts was why Henry the eighth fell in love with her initially.
>>212981392You need to stop thinking gurm slop is real history anon.
Which greenfag humiliation is worse?
>Daeron only exists in one scene where his Hightower cousins hand him and a dead dragon over, Rickon style, and he gets immediately executed by Daemon without ceremony
or
>He is a major character, but played by a literal little girl
>>212981560He’s a background character for Ormunds arc who the writers have said is a big character, Daeron was way down the list on the call sheet. It’s too late in the show for anyone to care about him like the other characters.
>>212962603Good effort, but Aegon IV never formally named Daemon as his heir. We don't really know why, as he obviously hated Daeron. But on paper, Daeron was indisputably his heir. So the black-red faction isn't as weird as it would appear at the first glance.
Anyway, I'm a green-red autist.
>>212981734What did you do to their teeth?
>>212981789historically accurate
why are these threads so dead now?
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>>212982012I was thinking the opposite, the last few threads we have had have reached bump limit for a change.
>>212981649Ormund is gonna parade a girl around as his nephew leading an army and no one's gonna question it lol
>>212980444Alright, failed normie, now go search that on 4plebs.
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>>212953447And now he’s played by a troon. Here’s your stalwart warrior and proud son sis
>>212982960look at this lil dood. bet he loves grilling with the boys.
>>212982925>zoomer too dumb to read the replies>>212980567You lost, newfag
So any new leaks about Aegon? He's the only interesting character in this show
>>212961092Alicent/Cole political disaster baby would have had the saddest brown eyes the world has ever seen. Also, more internalized psychosexual guilt and selfhatred than one person can manage.
>>212963641You're just TB and coping
I get all the complaints about Rhaenyra being whitewashed and all the narrative damage it has caused so far, but I think it's unfair to say it's still going on. S2 especially its last few episodes are very clearly starting to put her on the path to Maegor With Teats, albeit with the twist of being a deranged fanatic instead of just being greedy.
She's starting to babble more and more about being ordained by the gods, in the last episode she greenlights burning down Green cities because the gods will it.
Her interactions with Jace are probably the biggest examples. She keeps burying her nose into history books pretending she's Visenya, and there's a curious moment when Jace tells her "uhh maybe you shouldn't do that" and she has this very defensive and indignant reaction, like she can't even understand why Visenya was hated. Her reaction to Jace's warning about the future is actually great, her sniffled "I..I mislike all of this :(((" just makes her look so deranged, like she values her personal ambition over the safety of her son but she's trying to make herself seem like the victim.
She goes too far with the Sowing, even the dragonkeepers tell her she's losing it and they go away. When the Sowing is over you hear Rhaenyra's theme playing again, but for the first time you can hear this slightly darker twist to it. The production itself is aware that Rhaenyra is changing and it's into something clearly not good.
This could have been done way better and arguably it should've started much earlier and more overtly, but you're wrong if you believe Rhaenyra will remain a whitewashed good guy with 0 bad traits. Her downfall is being set up and foreshadowed and I can easily see a future in which even normies look at her antics in S3/S4 and think to themselves she's become something awful.
>>212983270Anon, they had Rhaenys massacre like 300 innocent people for no reason, and never mentioned it again. You are reading too deeply into it, and your optimism is not supported by what has happened in the past.
>>212983270Cope they deleted Nettles and Maelor for a reason
>>212983331>Meleys Beloved By Smallfolks >Rat-catchers Aegon
>>212983342Also this.
Groundwork is being laid for how she dindu nuffin.
>>212983162No leaks, but the actor did some kind of interview in the last few weeks that people were sneeding about.
>"I think what we start to see in Aegon as we go through this story is this quest for an understanding of who he is, and why he is the way he is," Glynn-Carney said. "And answering a lot of questions for himself that later might lend themselves to him kinda leveling up as a human being and taking responsibility and casting light on those areas that were otherwise very shadowed and hidden in dusty corners within himself. So it's a big journey of self-discovery...That's how his arc seems to be coming together as the tapestry keeps being woven."
>>212983359>ratcatcher depicted alongside of the doom of valyria during the opening creditsfucking kek
>>212983441I like the tapestry’s I hope they keep doing it
>>212983331that scene was just poorly constructed from a vfx standpoint, its very much meant to have the dragon pop up from some area without people in it, and then just have everyone panicking running around but the vfx guys just added bunch of npcs everywhere in the shot and it was probably too late to do reshoots so they just went fuck it
>>212983270troonlesboryna is probably going to get definitively dumped by alicent and descent into madness same way dani did after getting dumped by jon
>>212983521Lol the producers themselves said that she killed a bunch of innocent people. Hell they said in the original version she was shown killing much more, but they felt that would have been too much.
"[The coronation in episode 9] was changed a little bit. Especially when Rhaenys exits, because we initially had shots where she exits and plows through thousands of people. And it was just like, “Well, that’s not really into the feeling of the character. There’s definitely a feeling like, “Is it okay that she’s just going through all this crowd?” We went high and then reduced it down. But in all that dust, there’s also people flying and somersaulting. I think if you paused it, you might be able to count them. It’s hundreds, maybe thousands."
-VFX supervisor Mike Bell
>>212952497 (OP)what would you have her do?
>>212983868yea but was that the call of the vfx guys or the episode director because i can see them going "and then the dragon blasts thru and surprize buttsexx's everyone and there's some chaos" and the vfx guys just have the npcs get crushed not really having a good picture of the work request, since they are already saying shit like "we think this isn't in character" like they are confused about the production
>>212952497 (OP)The makers of the show (or the actress, I forgot which) already said that her character was meant to be a republican mother so it makes sense for her to act like this, its subtle social commentary
>>212983431Tom Glynn Carney just loves inventing cope to make the character writing of HOTD seem less stupid than it. Like and the Helena actress try to talk a lot about how Aegon and Helena's bond functions and how it defines each character, then you have the actual show in which they share like 2 meaningless lines of dialogue. TGC also spoke about the Richard II > Richard III transformation Aegon should go through but you can bet they'll just make him a vicious seething retard in the show and call it a day.
>>212980898I love Father & Mother
>>212984247>Tom Glynn Carney just loves inventing cope to make the character writing of HOTD seem less stupid than it.All actors do this.
>>212981123It's progressive for a female character to set aside all of her ambition, grievance, and dignity in service of the protagonist.
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>>212963031This anon gets it
>>212982081This thread would’ve been shelved several times if not for some lone individual, most likely OP, whose bumped the thread 3 or 4 times now. Doesn’t count.
>>212952497 (OP)after season 2, i no longer care about this show. i guess i'll watch it eventually, but meh
I stop paying attention to /hotd/ for a few months and come back to find they cast a pooner for Daeron.
>>212984654Guess Rhaenys and Alicent have more in common than they think.
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don't care
still watching every piece of asoiaf media no matter the quality
>>212962603i just hate targ shits with passion and my dream is to have my OC (king bobby b with red supernova eyes and the size of a building) just travel through time and space to smash every targshit into a puddle
>>212985010/got/hotd/ will be the only ones watching season 4
>>212985139i was there for the previous GoT rewatch, gonna be fun to hatewatch it with the bois
>>212984848and thats a good thing!
>>212966385>tied up teenage niece delivered to daemonWhat could possibly go wrong?
>>212985416We need a new Nettles.
>>212984848that thing kind of turns me on though so i dont mind, unlike the other troon they cast
Isn't this in production hell?
I wonder how WB going under will affect this show. It's way more expensive than GoT (or at least early GoT) and much less popular.
KotSK being delayed because of it is the real kicker. I guess HBO isn't interested in something that'll be successful for the kind of budget it'll get, only big hits or nothing.
Rhaena/baela (can’t tell the difference) and tranny daeron will take the role of nettles and of garmund Hightower. They’ll have a cringy Romeo and Juliet romance together making rhaenyra seethe but daemon will sacrifice his life for their love
Why did GURM just kill off literally all greens? I get the need to cull the general targ population for there to only be a few left for Robert's rebellion, but they could've been handled at summerhall like everyone else.
Daemon Blackfyre could've had a better claim than Daeron if he had both black and green blood.
>>212986087GRRM is a huge huge Daemon fan. Daemon has to win so hard that not only does his son inherit the throne, but all the people who opposed Daemon (including the entirety of their progeny) must die.
>>212986087He did the same thing with Maegor. Alysanne was supposed to be his daughter but he retconned it because le bad guy tainted lineage
>>212986087GURM likes to punish his villains by wiping out their bloodline. For example, originally, Alysanne was Maegor's daughter. But GURM changed it so that she's Jaehaerys's sister.
It's a shame in the case of the Dance. Aegon III and Jaehaera marrying was a good bookend to rub into everyone's nose just how retarded the conflict was in the first place.
>>212985996Don’t manifest such things
>>212986792Don't worry. RhaeRhae can do no wrong.
>>212952497 (OP)if you told me after the Driftmark episode (with Amond losing an eye) that soon enough we'd have Rhaenyra making out with Mysaria, Alicent selling her children just to get a whiff of pussy, Daemon becoming a WINTUH IS COMING I DONT WANT IT Jon Snow clone, and Daeron being a troon, I would have called you a shitposte. Yet her we are.
>>212982960I dont get it. Is that a biological male or a bilogical female.
The only people falling for the green/black false dichotomy are twitter-troons.
>>212986879You just had to wait a little bit longer and see the episode end with Laenor rowing off into the sunset to realize this.
>>212987002The actual dichotomy of the show is men vs women. Reminder that there is not a SINGLE woman in this show allowed to work against another woman or hate her. Alicent bucked the trend and basically got an entire season of humiliation and losing because of it, only to end the season with repenting for her crime.
>>212986990>is like a foot shorter than every man, has wide hips and a set of titsGee, I wonder.
>>212982960>He’s stalwart. Clever. As adept with his lute as he is with his sword.after that description, i have to say i really did not picture Daeron as a thin androgynous thing with oddly feminine body language but hey i'm sure Hess knows best
>>212987041Alright. And the character is supposed to be a biological male, right?
>>212952497 (OP)>Criston fucks off away from Alicent to hang out with Gwayne and instantly becomes a better character>Aegon fucks off away from Alicent to hang out with Larys and instantly becomes a better character>Rhaenyra gets a scene with Alicent and it instantly becomes Rhaenyra's most retarded scene of the seasonit's funny how Alicent's presence drags every character down
THAT'S MY WIFE'S SON YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU... Y-... YOU BRUTE!!!!!!
>>212987510Which is a shame. We'll never get the
>BASTARD BLOOD, SHED AT WAR!Alicent.
Why the fuck is Daeron meeting Daemon anyway?
>>212968253if only they kept the framing device of the history texts
>>212987852"""He's""" a good person, so naturally """he""" is going to side with the rightful queen.
>>212968862Yes Anon since the get go they went full retarded. The whole point of the Dance was that they completely fuck up the realm and the Targaryen house. In the books both Aegon and Rhaenyra are view as assholes in history
s2 was obviously made for women
s1 was something in between women and normies
s3 mayhaps they pivot back and make it about dragons n explosions
>>212988411They are pretty much described as the same person.
>fat>lazy>horny>petulant>paranoid>vengeful>profligate
GRRM was right about fag jew showrunners taking already established lore etc and acting like they came up with it so rewrite shit as if it's their own.
Though maybe he should stop selling his book rights to these people then.
>>212988557I can't believe after got fiasco he didn't specifically put in the contract DON'T FUCK UP MY STORY YOU SHITS
>>212988636He probably gave D&D more grace because they were working with an unfinished story, which was his fault, and they were the ones who made him insanely rich. He has more leeway to go after Condal and Hess.
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>*wins*
>hedge knight still not out
>still at least a year or two out for more hotdslop
I can't wait for the weekly shitposting again bros
>>212988877>blackcels using "targtower" as an insult>meanwhile they were a peak house while targs were fucking sheep>and have remained so while dany and viserys were living on the streetsSpeaking of Hightowers, I believe that a good candidate for Euron's tall woman with hands of fire could be Malora. She's big into occult like Euron, and for all we know she could another one of Bloodraven's abandoned projects.
>>212989297The Hightower is literally the only interesting plot left in ASOIAF
>>212988877any ideas why they aren't more prominent in the main asoiaf story?
>>212989387I wish I could agree. Sadly the fat man has me in a chokehold, and I am invested in it all. Even fucking Meereen.
Still, I have accepted that Winds is never coming out, so I try to be content with my own headcanon.
>>212989471Marge is half Hightower, so they do have their queen on the throne again. I tend to think that Oldtown is more like a city-sate. They pay their taxes to their liege lords and the crown, but are generally independent. Any influence they want to exert now can be done covertly though the maesters, the faith, and literally the only bank is Westeros. Every one of those institutions is tied to their house.
Rhaenyra? Fat? No, tis not the right word, Your Grace. She was an immensity, a colossus, all within her sight was consumed.
On the night of King Viserys the Peaceful's death, she occupied (for sat is no longer the correct word, as no chair could support her) the northern half of the room. When the good Lord Beesbury reminded her that noble Prince Aegon, soon to be the second king of his name, should succeed his father - she devoured him, root and stem.
She spent the next two years attempting to eat everything that stood between her and the Iron Throne, only, ironically, to be consumed herself by Sunfyre the Noble. But given her elephantine size, the dragon was unable to stomach her - and died of a burst belly shortly thereafter.
>>212980370>>212981307At this point I expect feminists to say “wanting your heir to be your own biological child” is a patriarchal institution that oppresses women. Why shouldn’t the king consort be happy to raise some other man’s child as his own?
This is why Laenor gets to row off into the gay sunset while Vaemond gets 4” shorter
>>212990608Rhaenyra Targaryen eats on the Iron Throne.
She ate the Conqueror's pie,
ate the Conqueror's ham,
ate the Conqueror's cake.
She was nourished by the wings of the chicken before the eyes of thousands.
Every meal at the banquet - belongs to her.
>>212991333Your Grace, I have a report I feel compelled to share.
Last night, princess Rhaenyra bought out one of the pancake houses on the street of Milk. To entertain overweight officers of the City Watch and other curvaceous friends of hers. She consumed a dozen servings of sweet potato crème brûlée with extra butter on top. Then washed it all down with several pints of strongwine.
She toasted the evening, styling it... the sixth meal of the day.
I corroborated this report with three separate witnesses. The event was by all accounts.. a buffet.
>>212991423It is no easy thing to tell a father of his daughter's exploits. I had considered saying nothing, but...
The Princess was spied the other night, beyond the walls of the Keep... in a steakhouse. She was dining there with her uncle. They were engaged in meals unbecoming of a slender maiden... of a fit Princess.
Must I say it, Your Grace? Daemon and Rhaenyra were seen together... in the bowels of St. Martin's black bread cookhouse.
(sighs)
Eating beef brisket.
>>212991460My daughter. Won't you even deny it?
You have fattened her.
She was supposed to be a slim girl, your little niece. You have bloated her! What lord will wed her now in this condition? I should put her on a low carb diet as I already did with you, and be done with it.
>>212987011This change still annoys the shit out of me, done just to make Rhaenyra and Daemon look good for not murdering him like its assumed in the book.
Not to mention how it was pointless since he MUST have died shortly after rowing away, since Seasmoke takes another rider and a dragon will only have one rider at a time.
Fat Nyra would have been fun. I can picture her in my mind's eye, absolutely dominating twink Aegon with her presence.
>>212991538It also makes Laenor into an asshole. He lets his grieving parents be traumatized even further, and he leaves behind the kids he apparently loved. He was pretty much an absent "father" in the books, but that's not how the show characterized him.
>>212964410>Millie morphs in to a normal looking womanEvery time
Nice one lads, another thread reaching bump limit.
HBO haven't made good tv since 2016
>>212993201What came out in 2016?
>>212993266something good, supposedly.
>>212993092I've bumped it and randomly talked to nobody like 5 times to keep it on the catalog, of course it did.
>>212993392Kek. Thank you for your service anon.
Where is HBO going to end the story? Are we gonna get the Hour of the Wolf?
>>212988877>*brings civilisation to the world*>*starts a war that exterminates dragons*>*reduces targshits to a house of beggars*Best house.