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Anonymous No.212952635 >>212952733 >>212952754 >>212952763 >>212952806 >>212953244 >>212953317 >>212953366 >>212953394 >>212953590 >>212954050 >>212954321 >>212954448 >>212954527 >>212954550 >>212954811 >>212954930 >>212955047 >>212955169 >>212955469 >>212955666 >>212955869 >>212955962 >>212956385 >>212957380 >>212958565 >>212959443 >>212959503 >>212960185
Why did they omit the scene where Churchill rejected Hitler's plea for peace?
Anonymous No.212952721 >>212952758 >>212960185
>Holocaust movie
>Holocaust just starts happening
>They skip the scene where the majority of Germans decide they don't like Jews anymore
Weird. It's like making Jurassic Park, but the opening scene is the T-Rex walking next to the Jeeps.
Anonymous No.212952727 >>212952749 >>212953368
>plea for peace from a guy who never cares for treaties like the Versailles one
Anonymous No.212952733 >>212952747
>>212952635 (OP)

Did they omit the scene where the alcoholic degenerate gambler Churchill gets his copious debts bought out by Jewish interest groups?
Anonymous No.212952737 >>212954203
If Chamberlain and France didn't fold on the sudatenlands, Hitler would've been lost in 1938 considering his army couldn't have won and there was also a coup in place if he declared war
Anonymous No.212952747
>>212952733
anon, don't be antisemitic!
Anonymous No.212952749 >>212953146 >>212953249 >>212953388 >>212953528 >>212953729 >>212954419 >>212954796 >>212958658
>>212952727

If you get your big greasy nose out of the way, you might read somewhere that the Versailles Treaty was a bad deal for Germany.
Anonymous No.212952754 >>212952918
>>212952635 (OP)
>Why did they omit the scene where Churchill rejected Hitler's plea for peace?
Isn't that the entire point of this movie? Continuing the war vs. peace with Germany and Churchill's rejection of the latter?
Anonymous No.212952758
>>212952721
>And then one day, for no reason at all, life found a way.
Anonymous No.212952763 >>212952775
>>212952635 (OP)
This movie is a shameless and ceaseless wash of Anglo-Saxon propaganda without care nor attempt for historical realism.
Anonymous No.212952775 >>212952823
>>212952763

Sometime after the 70s, some people decided that historically accurate WWII films shouldn't be made any more. The purpose of WWII films hence was to justify the state of Israel.
Anonymous No.212952799 >>212952883
>invade sovereign nations
>occupy them
>bomb the shit out of their cities
>try to make hollow appeals to peace on germanys terms a week after bombing warsaw
>act superior when the brits and french wont have it.
mostly because it was made in a speech, it was never a proper attempt at making a peace deal, just an attempt at giving himself the moral highground
Anonymous No.212952806 >>212954741
>>212952635 (OP)
This movie genuinely had me start wondering if winston Churchill was just a fat old fucking retard
He doesn't do anything intelligent the entire movie
The scene where he goes on the subway and talks to people (which never happened) was so fucking embarrassing too, I can't believe people watched this and thought it deserved an Oscar

Autismfags, was Churchill retarded? Or is it the movies fault?
Anonymous No.212952813
Putin is also asking for peace, as long as Ukraine gives them everything they want. It's the same shit.
Anonymous No.212952823 >>212952937 >>212953029 >>212954456
>>212952775
I don't see how anyone could make a pro-allies WW2 film without mentioning the degree of Russian sacrifice. Stalingrad was the bleeding heart of the war, not petty squabbles over Belgian potato patches.
Anonymous No.212952883 >>212952925 >>212952958 >>212953183 >>212953211 >>212954473 >>212955009
>>212952799

To be fair, the "sovereign nations" they invaded were carved out of the German Empire only several years prior and they contained a vast number of German diaspora. Also, the bombing of civilian population centres began with "Bomber Harris". Germany only committed to it in response. Hitler was partial to fighting war honourably. For example, he forbade the use of chemical and biological weapons.
Anonymous No.212952918 >>212952944
>>212952754
People on /tv/ don't actually watch movies
Anonymous No.212952925 >>212954813 >>212955077
>>212952883
Allied Stratigic bombing wasn't until after the Blitz.
Anonymous No.212952937 >>212952982
>>212952823
The west was in a cold war with Russia until the 90s so movies couldn't show any sympathy or support for them. That casually carried on to modern times.
Anonymous No.212952944
>>212952918
amen
Anonymous No.212952958 >>212953128 >>212953312 >>212953604
>>212952883
oh fuck off mate. It's the same fucking argument putin is currently using as an excuse to invade ukraine and soon every baltic state.
Anonymous No.212952982
>>212952937
Good
Anonymous No.212953029
>>212952823
>I don't see how anyone could make a pro-allies WW2 film without mentioning the degree of Russian sacrifice.
Because they paid for invading poland and becoming an ally of nazi germany and without the lend-lease program, the russians would have gotten their asses whopped.
Anonymous No.212953128 >>212953222
>>212952958
it's a completely legitimate argument. Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and the rest are hangovers from Soviet Russia. There is nothing unique about the culture or people in any of these places, in fact a lot of them speak Russian. The world would be better off with a powerful Russian empire, exporting science and culture again, instead of a load of fragmented shitholes
Anonymous No.212953146 >>212953254 >>212953706 >>212955085
>>212952749
Duh it's like they had just lost a war that they had started
Anonymous No.212953183
>>212952883
>Le honourable Hilter
Anonymous No.212953211 >>212953275 >>212953421 >>212955257
>>212952883
Are you really saying France, Belgium, and the Netherlands were rightfully part of Germany in the 30s?
Anonymous No.212953222 >>212953277
>>212953128
>There is nothing unique about the culture or people in any of these places
Yeah your regular Tadjik is just like your regular dude from Moscow lmao
Also the biggest putin bandwagonner cope is pretending that Russia isn't a colonial state and that it naturally expanded towards the Pacific and the doormat of Afghanistan lol
Anonymous No.212953244
>>212952635 (OP)
Why would anyone trust hitler after he started a war on two fronts (three thanks to japan) for no good reason?
Anonymous No.212953249 >>212954554
>>212952749
>its ok to break treaties you agreed to when you unilaterally decide theyre no longer a good deal for you
>FUCKING PERFIDIOUS ALBION WHY WONT YOU SIGN A TREATY WITH US SO WE CAN DESTROY RUSSIA BEFORE BACKSTABBING YOU
Anonymous No.212953251
There were no "good guys" in WW2, only good goys.
Anonymous No.212953254 >>212953285 >>212953306
>>212953146
>your parents made bad decisions
>now we are going to squeeze everything out of your generation
>please understand
the world becomes a much, much more of a rational place when you think how naive the people in charge can be
Anonymous No.212953275
>>212953211
NTA but those territories are rightful (Francoist) Spanish clay
Anonymous No.212953277 >>212953331 >>212953359
>>212953222
>Yeah your regular Tadjik is just like your regular dude from Moscow lmao
Russia has always been very diverse, this argument makes no sense. Whether you like it or not, they were all Russian when your parents were young. So it's a hardly a case of Putin just deciding to randomly invade a country. Might have helped if the US/UK had stopped doing everything possible to provoke them into it too. They could barely contain their delight at being able to juice their arms industries some more and send working class white men to their deaths.
Anonymous No.212953285 >>212953310
>>212953254
>start a war because you didn't like a treaty
>lose
>ask for a treaty from the exact same people
speaking of naive
Anonymous No.212953306
>>212953254
It was the fucking same generation
Anonymous No.212953310 >>212953392
>>212953285
>start a war because you didn't like a treaty
if you want to make stuff up you can, but i am not interested in debating about it
Anonymous No.212953312
>>212952958
Oink oink
Anonymous No.212953317
>>212952635 (OP)
Why argue about this? Hitler lost. Jews won. Europe is soon to be non white forever.
Anonymous No.212953331 >>212953357
>>212953277
Central Asia countries have a very distinct culture tainted by decades if not centuries of colonialism
Anonymous No.212953357 >>212953400 >>212953446 >>212953556
>>212953331
Wales is pretty different to the Cotswolds, they are still both British
your argument is retarded
Ukraine belonged to Russia and Russia has a legitimate claim to try and take her back in the face of clear Western meddling and provocation
Anonymous No.212953359
>>212953277
>Might have helped if the US/UK had stopped doing everything possible to provoke them into it too.
might have helped if the russians hadnt done the exact same thing 2 decades earlier and everyone saw the writing on the wall and knew that putin couldnt be trusted with anything.
Anonymous No.212953366
>>212952635 (OP)
Because they included a scene perfectly well outlining why signing a deal with a serial liar like Hitler would be completely foolish.

Remember that by this point Hitler had broken more or less every promise he had ever made to the international community. He had proven himself to be untrustworthy, and so Churchill did not trust him.
Anonymous No.212953368 >>212953395
>>212952727
>Omitted the scene where the Bongs ally with the other country that invaded Poland despite the ostensible casus belli being the invasion of Poland.
Anonymous No.212953388 >>212953692
>>212952749
>that the Versailles Treaty was a bad deal for Germany.
It actually wasn't. It was just bad enough to piss Germany off, but not bad enough to actually harm or impede it in any way. That was its ultimate failing.

Besides, that really doesn't matter. Regardless of how good or bad the treaty was, Hitler still broke it rather than re-negotiate it. Ergo, he cannot be trusted to honor treaties.
Anonymous No.212953392 >>212953459
>>212953310
If you want to ignore the more salient part of my post, you can. It just makes you look like a coward, just like Hitler.
Anonymous No.212953394
>>212952635 (OP)
>Yeah I invaded half of Europe but uhhh... Don't bomb me bro!
KWABOAT
Anonymous No.212953395 >>212953434 >>212953449
>>212953368
>omits the scene where the Krauts betray their soviet ally and invades the USSR, forcing the USSR into the other side
Anonymous No.212953400 >>212953456
>>212953357
>Western meddling and provocation
fuck off vatnik, here's the thing about claiming self defense. If you start punching an 8 year old because he said some mean things to you, nobody is going to believe you're in any danger from harm, it's just you beating up an 8 year old.
Anonymous No.212953421 >>212953478 >>212954320
>>212953211
France declared war on Germany first, and invaded first (Phoney War). If France didn't want war, declaring war on Germany and allowing the landing and transit of the British Expeditionary Force was not a great start.
Anonymous No.212953434 >>212953690
>>212953395
The soviets were literally preparing to attack krauts first in around a year.
Anonymous No.212953446
>>212953357
>Wales is pretty different to the Cotswolds, they are still both British
Yes, because both have been in union for centuries.

There is not, for example, a 1997 treaty between England and Wales where England guarantees Wales' borders, sovereignty, and Wales' right to determine its own alliances, in exchange for Wales giving up the nuclear weapons in its possession and recognizing the same rights for England.

But there IS such a treaty between Russia and Ukraine. Or rather, there was, until Russia unilaterally broke it in 2014.
Anonymous No.212953449 >>212953690
>>212953395
>omits the scene where the Soviets were gearing up for a westward offensive, and awkwardly results in Hitler being responsible for saving everybody from a Soviet Western Europe.
Anonymous No.212953456 >>212953488 >>212953491 >>212953558 >>212954461 >>212957765
>>212953400
>punching an 8 year old
oh yeah, NATO, the UK, EU and USA are really comparable to an 8 year old
fuck off with your absurd analogies
>But there IS such a treaty between Russia and Ukraine. Or rather, there was, until Russia unilaterally broke it in 2014.
Ukraine broke it by shelling and absuing Russian speaking minorities in disputed regions of their territory
Anonymous No.212953459 >>212953500
>>212953392
>ww1 veteran, ex-homeless, ex-con, survived multiple assassination attempts, made some himself, waged war on three major powers and still kept fighting
>coward
well, thanks for proving my point
Anonymous No.212953474
>"I will not die for Danzig."
>gets drafted anyway and gets flattened by a german tank to protect the sovereignty of some poor slavic shithole

>"I will not die for Israel."
>
Anonymous No.212953478 >>212953578 >>212953601
>>212953421
So what is your defense of the Germans invading the Netherlands, who were neutral in the first war and were sovereign since the 1700s?
Anonymous No.212953488 >>212953512
>>212953456
Back to the front lines Ivan
Anonymous No.212953491 >>212953512 >>212953535
>>212953456
>Russian speaking minorities
rofl
Anonymous No.212953500 >>212953515
>>212953459
>Hid in bunker and killed himself without any attempt to fight
He was a coward who won the KWABOAT award
Anonymous No.212953512
>>212953488
>>212953491
Don't forget to put the correct coloured recycling bin out to justify your $8k council tax lmao
Bong retards
Anonymous No.212953515 >>212954665
>>212953500
>it is better to be captured and paraded around than take control of your own life
i bet you think romans were a bunch of sissies by same logic
Anonymous No.212953521 >>212953545
This is the first time I've seen such a blatand Russian shill on this board. This is just like that time where someone tried to convince people that Mao killing all the birds was a good thing actually.
Anonymous No.212953524
>and then ALL OF A SUDDEN
>for NO REASON AT ALL
>they just started SYSTEMATICALLY EXTERMINATING all the jews in Europe with extreme secrecy except for the millions they allowed to escape to the US
Anonymous No.212953528 >>212953597 >>212953696
>>212952749
the treaty of Versailles was far too lenient and Germany should have been eternally grateful for this leniency and for the entente saving them from falling to a communist regime

germany bore the majority of the blame for the great war, they were the ones to urge upon Austria to go for an all out war, they were the ones to assault neutral nations, they were the ones to commit atrocities in occupied territory

and they got off light because Versailles was so lenient the germans, rather than taking blame for what they did, immediately started a stabbed in the back myth and pretend as if they could have won and the war was just

WW2 showed it clearly: the germans cannot be trusted to realize their errors by themselves, they need to be beat into submission and shown the errors of their way
Anonymous No.212953535 >>212953559 >>212953571 >>212953609
>>212953491
Don't search up what language is mostly spoken in eastern ukraine.
Anonymous No.212953545 >>212953598
>>212953521
First time? Lucky (You).
Anonymous No.212953556 >>212953602
>>212953357
nice false equivalence putinboy
Anonymous No.212953558
>>212953456
>in disputed regions of their territory
They werent disputed, Russia signed them away.
Anonymous No.212953559
>>212953535
they're dumb brainwashed guardian readers
Anonymous No.212953571 >>212953587
>>212953535
I thought they were minorities
Anonymous No.212953578 >>212953631
>>212953478
Strategic position in a greater war against France and England. This is simple shit and it does no good to moralized in a discussion on strategy.
Anonymous No.212953587 >>212953623
>>212953571
they are, in Ukraine. Most people speak Ukrainian. That's what we call a 'majority'.
Anonymous No.212953590
>>212952635 (OP)
yeah yeah lil chuddie we've all heard that excuse before
Anonymous No.212953597 >>212953636
>>212953528
Go to bed Halifax, you're drunk.
Anonymous No.212953598
>>212953545
Admittedly I don't enter threads like these too often.
Anonymous No.212953601
>>212953478
They were Jewish
Anonymous No.212953602 >>212955003
>>212953556
Falklands rightfully belongs to Britain and is nowhere near it.
stupid argument
Anonymous No.212953604 >>212953652
>>212952958
>soon every baltic state
He doesn't even have ukraine
Anonymous No.212953609 >>212953620
>>212953535
>Don't search up what language is mostly spoken in eastern ukraine.
Ukraine and Russians is as close as swedish and norwegian, both nations can speak and read both, that dont mean neither has claim to eithers land. It's a fucking retarded argument. It's like claiming Ireland can take Boston from the US because a large majority of the population in Boston identifies as irish.
Anonymous No.212953620
>>212953609
>Ireland can take Boston from the US because a large majority of the population in Boston identifies as irish.
Unironically yes
Anonymous No.212953623 >>212953656
>>212953587
Oh I get it, you think I greentexted that because I thought Russians wouldn't be minorities. God you're a stupid time wasting vatnigger, lmao
Anonymous No.212953631 >>212953744
>>212953578
Wasn't the defense of Germany invading those countries that it originally theirs or that they started it first?
Anonymous No.212953636
>>212953597
splitting germany up into 3 separate states would have pretended WW2 happening the way it did
instead WW2 would have been about europe uniting against the invasions of Stalin and eventually beating them back ending communism once and for all

And maybe after this event, if they had shown themselves to have grown as a people, germany could have been allowed reunification
Anonymous No.212953641 >>212953654 >>212953665 >>212954123 >>212954249
i wonder how many people here actually think the demographic situation of europe is just perfectly fine and is going to be fine in a few decades. the majority are just tired people baiting and bots, but still slightly interested how many legitimately mentally warped people there are
Anonymous No.212953652
>>212953604
You are supposed to have two contradictions exist in your mind. Russia lost its entire army in a 10 to 1 kd against brave Ukraine who for some reason keep snatching people from the streets and that Russia most definitely going to invade Europe next year.
Anonymous No.212953654 >>212953674
>>212953641
why don't you tell us how to think Ivan
Anonymous No.212953656
>>212953623
'I was just pretending to be retarded! haha you fell for it!'
Anonymous No.212953665
>>212953641
>remember to vote for your local far-right, pro russian party this next election fellow anon :^)
Anonymous No.212953666
one of the top nazis flew a plane himself to scotland or wherever because he thought the anglos could be reasoned with and make a peace deal kek. then he was imprisoned until death
Anonymous No.212953674 >>212953697
>>212953654
shouldn't you be prepping for ww3 oh what am i kidding it's a bot reply
Anonymous No.212953690 >>212953702 >>212953782
>>212953434
>>212953449

What evidence is there of this claim that the soviet's were planning to invade?
Anonymous No.212953692 >>212954250
>>212953388
I don't get why stormfags harp on about 'he just wanted danzig' and the Allies were irrational as fuck for drawing a line in the sand when the year prior he 'only' wanted the Sudetenland before annexing Bohemia.
Anonymous No.212953696
>>212953528
This is very true considering that germs, alongside their polish mutts, are trying to start WW3
Anonymous No.212953697 >>212953747
>>212953674
>Ivan calling anyone else a bot
how droll
Anonymous No.212953702
>>212953690
Just general vibes, you know.
Anonymous No.212953706
>>212953146
>that Austria had started
Ftfy
Anonymous No.212953729
>>212952749
As a frog let me tell you it wasn't annoying since they were able to properly re arm
Anonymous No.212953744 >>212953821 >>212953869
>>212953631
Germany took Danzing and much of Western Poland because a lot of it had been German prior to Versailles, and the Polish would not negotiate a corridor to Danzing because they received unconditional security guarantees form the British representative*. Britain (and France) immediately declared war while Germany attempted to sue for peace. France invaded a few German border towns and waited for the Bongs to get their shit together. The British EF lands but Germany takes France and drives the Brits back across the channel. Then Germany sues for peace again. Churchill almost agrees but duces it would be bad for his legacy. Germany and Britain start exchanging strategic bombing while Churchill tries to get Roosevelt to enter the war.


*Sound familiar?
Anonymous No.212953747 >>212953756
>>212953697
well i hope you are having a sliver of fun since you are not entertaining me at all with your psychosis
Anonymous No.212953756
>>212953747
Thanks Ivan
Anonymous No.212953762 >>212953805 >>212953882 >>212954118
Anonymous No.212953782 >>212954576
>>212953690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_(non-fiction_book)

The English language wiki fails to mention that this idea is taken pretty seriously, though perhaps not definitive, by non-Anglosphere historians.
Anonymous No.212953796
bongs are unironically the cause of like 90% of the modern world's problems, I don't get how anyone would be able to defend them in any context.
Anonymous No.212953805
>>212953762
Anonymous No.212953821 >>212953949 >>212954846
>>212953744
That's a lot of words to deflect the part where Germany invaded Belgium and the Netherlands just because they wanted it instead of some moral of historical reason.
Anonymous No.212953869
>>212953744
and all that land was land the Prussians stole from Poland before
Anonymous No.212953882 >>212953954 >>212953992 >>212954081 >>212954147 >>212954159 >>212954868
>>212953762
Europe would have 100% been better off today if Germany won and you know it. Sure Germany was wrong back then and England was right to say no, however the events that happened after WW2 have been more devastating for Europe than if Germany had just won.
Anonymous No.212953891
>vat do you mean you are allied to Poland and vill protect it if ve declare var on it??
>you only varned us five times beforehand, how could ve know you vere being serious??
>vhy von't you consider our sensible peace offer after having been shown ve vill break it anyvay 21 years later?
>ve only demand the entirety of continental Europe, zis surely isn't too much to ask, nein?
>vat do you mean, if ve didn't vant harsh conditions for peace ve shouldn't have lost the var (vhich ve started)
>Herr Churchill you are a varmongerer!
Anonymous No.212953949
>>212953821
I frankly don't give a shit about Chocolatiers and Swamp Germans.
Anonymous No.212953954 >>212953990 >>212954130 >>212960108
>>212953882
you mean europe would have been better turning into a third world shithole ruled by pure nepotism and backstabbery?
because I don't think you understand quite how fucktarded the nazi economical ideas were, literally all they did was take out loans, go to war, plunder, repay loans

nearly every single good thing attributed to the nazis was a plan weimar germany started and hitler just inherited
Anonymous No.212953990 >>212954072
>>212953954
>third world shithole ruled by pure nepotism and backstabbery
where do you think you are?
Anonymous No.212953992 >>212954130
>>212953882
>Europe would have 100% been better off today if it was entirely East Germany
Anonymous No.212954050 >>212954201
>>212952635 (OP)
>Hitler's plea for peace
>nigger breaks into a house
>stabs multiple white people in it
>steal TV
>AAAAI WE COOL MANG YO PEACE AND SHIEEEEET

Why are socialists like this?
Anonymous No.212954072 >>212954161 >>212954501 >>212960108
>>212953990
1st world country with significantly less nepotism and backstabbery
if you want to look at what europe would have been like under a victorious germany, just look at the current state of russia
Anonymous No.212954081
>>212953882
>Europe would have 100% been better off today if Germany was nuked instead of Japan

Ftfy. Most ill of Europe today are once again Germany's fault.
Anonymous No.212954111 >>212954893
if hitler hated communism so much why did he enter a secret agreement to jointly invade and divide the country that has historically rebuffed the spread of communistm into western europe?
very inconsistent writing
Anonymous No.212954118
>>212953762
this shatters the mexican
Anonymous No.212954123
>>212953641
>demographics
>a few decades
Literally impossible to predict.
Anonymous No.212954130 >>212954260
>>212953954
Europe is more third world today than if Germany would have won. Have you been to any European city?

>>212953992
Commies wouldn’t have won if the UK surrendered. Hitler would have beaten Russia in a 1 front war with Italy and not having to worry about the Brits in Africa and the Middle East. Worst case scenario Germany can’t take Russia and leaves it, but they’d retain the rest of Europe who would all be better off today.
Anonymous No.212954147 >>212954501 >>212960108
>>212953882
>and you know it.
Nope, I don't think it would. I think it would be a turbocorrupt mirror image of modern Russia, where everyone talks about dicks in the ass all the time and structures society according to bizarre prison rules.
Anonymous No.212954159
>>212953882
Nooooo what about the poor paki rape gangs? Europe needs them!
Anonymous No.212954161 >>212954360 >>212954463 >>212954643
>>212954072
Well gee, I live in Europe and anybody that gets a job is through nepotism or plain lying, no matter if you have an education or any experience. High employment rate and great economical situation combined with a homogeneous society with traditional values? How frightening.
Anonymous No.212954201
>>212954050
That's unironically what chuds believe.

>be guy
>see some woman get stabbed
>intervene
>stabnigger goes apeshit and starts stabbing at you too
>"look, just let me keep stabbing this woman and we're cool. whadda ya say?"
>no.jpg
>NNOOO NOW I HAVE TO STAB YOU TOO, YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS, WHY DO YOU LOVE VIOLENCE REEE
Anonymous No.212954203
>>212952737
Chamberlain had to buy time because they were in no way capable of fighting at that time
Anonymous No.212954249 >>212955438
>>212953641
If you look at the UK, 1/3 of school children are non-white (not non-British, straight up non-white). Couple that with the fact that whites in the UK have far below replacement birth rates. I can’t find the specific white fertility rate, however overall the UKs is 1.49, so for whites it’s even lower considering Muslims have a 2.9 and they among other groups boost the UK birth rate. It’s over for the UK, and I can’t imagine the situation being better in the other European countries.

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-pupils-and-their-characteristics/2024-25
Anonymous No.212954250 >>212954303
>>212953692
He wanted the return of German land full of German speaking people who wanted to be back in Germany. He was never unclear on any of that. Imagine if instead of Israel waging war so they could eliminate a group of people and build big luxury houses on their graves, they waged war to free them from their oppressive rulers and unite with them.
Anonymous No.212954260 >>212954918 >>212955964
>>212954130
>Europe is more third world today than if Germany would have won.

Germans were the only people with non-white allies. Europe is the state it is in thanks to leftism like socialism and national socialism.
Anonymous No.212954303
>>212954250
>German land full of German speaking people
Which would be a disaster for European people.
Anonymous No.212954320
>>212953421
> France declared war on Germany first

France and Britain made it unambiguous that a German invasion of Poland would be met with French and British declarations of war. If Germany didn’t want to be at war with France, then all it had to do was not invade Poland.
Anonymous No.212954321 >>212954381 >>212954948
>>212952635 (OP)
Oh yeah, appeasement worked marvels with that fruitcake before.
Anonymous No.212954360 >>212955989
>>212954161
>Well gee
> I live in Europe
Literally nobody in Europe says "Well gee". It's exclusively an Americanism.
Anonymous No.212954381 >>212955853
>>212954321
or, you know, just make an alliance and keep the British empire and have a white Christian Europe instead of handing the world's power over to fucking ISRAEL
Anonymous No.212954419
>>212952749
>bad deal for Germany.
Maybe next time Germans shouldn't ally with muslims and attack white Europe. Just a sugestion. They clearly don't listen though.
Anonymous No.212954448 >>212954503 >>212954971 >>212955929
>>212952635 (OP)
Churchill's statue in Trafalger Square is still hidden in a big steel coffin because the Muzzies kept vandalizing it lmao. "W-w-we will f-f-f-f-fight t-them on the b-beeches--a-and on the"

NOPE! Surrendered like cuckolds! God punishes the ANGLOID for what he did to Germany. Rape, torture, blinding, sodomy, murder. This is the only thing anly Anglo KEK deserves, and it is what they are getting at the hands of the brave Mohammadeans, who once chanted "No more Monsieur, No more Mister, In Heaven Allah, on Earth Hitler,"

Get KEKED. Get KEKED. History will remember the British as a nation of KEKOLDS who licked SHIT off of Jewish feet, and for what? So that they could be raped and terrorized and impoverished in their own countries? Divine justice. It is not colonialism or any of that shit that brings about their punishment, but their betrayal of Germany, and their own brother-nation for Jewish power.

KEKED! KEKED! LOOK AT THE FAT DRUNKEN KEKOLD!
Anonymous No.212954456
>>212952823
>Stalingrad was the bleeding heart of the war
Germans versus Russians was just usual leftist infighting. Literally a war against ex-allies.
Anonymous No.212954461 >>212954500 >>212957347
>>212953456
> Ukraine broke it by shelling and absuing Russian speaking minorities in disputed regions of their territory

1. As another Anon pointed out, they weren’t in dispute. Russia had recognized that territory as Ukrainian since the 1997 Big Treaty.

2. What Ukraine does to Ukrainian citizens (regardless of ethnicity) on Ukrainian soil is Ukraine’s business. Russia is free to respond with sanctions, condemnation, termination of normal diplomatic relations, demand action in the United Nations, etc, things that are indisputably under Russia’s control. But Russia signed a treaty stating that it would honor Ukraine’s borders, with no provisos. It would honor Ukraine’s right to join any alliance or no alliance, at Ukraine’s discretion, with no provisos and no need to consult Russia.

NO MATTER THEIR HISTORY, Russia agreed that it had no more say over Ukrainian affairs than it had over Chilean or Sudanese or Laotian affairs. And Vice-versa. In 1997, Russia literally told Ukraine, on paper, in ink that it signed, that if Ukraine wanted to join NATO then Ukraine was free to do so.

And then it unilaterally violated that treaty.
Anonymous No.212954463 >>212955000 >>212960108
>>212954161
what traditional values?
nazis had no traditional values, the nazis are responsible for the largest systematic destruction of european heritage of the 20th century, if not for a heroic effort by the british and americans the nazis would have destroyed nearly all historic artwork in western euope

they forced a surveillance state where they turned brother against brother, son against father, upon europe, destroying all family cohesion
they took away the rights of parents to raise their children and instead forced them into unified indoctrination camps, then sent out these same children to act as shock troopers so they nepotism hires at the top could use them as shields to try and survive

Nazi germany used it's own children as living shields so their elites could try to escape, never forget that, that's the core value of nazism, and that's opposite to any traditional european values

their economic models were also non-existent they relies purely on plunder and slave labor

Slave Labor, which Europe had banned in it's mainland for hundreds of years, one of the prime things to be proud of as a German was that it had not participated in slavery, that it had not kept it's people in bondage
What allowed Europe to ride from the middle ages and into the world as a power was that it had shaken off reliance on slavery unlike the eastern monarch, and that it's people were free to advance

And the Nazis ruined this
Anonymous No.212954473 >>212954533
>>212952883
>Also, the bombing of civilian population centres began with "Bomber Harris".

Which should continue to this day
Anonymous No.212954500 >>212954551 >>212954737
>>212954461
Because NATO violated their 'defense only' pact. Of course you know this. Shit changed with Serbia and you warmongering zionists only have yourselves to blame
Anonymous No.212954501
>>212954072
>>212954147
russia russia russia
Anonymous No.212954503 >>212954558
>>212954448
>Muzzies
Aka German allies in both World Wars.
Anonymous No.212954527 >>212955070
>>212952635 (OP)
>scream for years that Germans are superior and all othe races are inferior and don't deserve to live
>but especially jews, slavs, poles, cripples, gays, the mentally deficient, political opponents, and so on
>lie to literally everyone, leading them along only to rugpull them and do precisely what you had just agreed to not do
>make vocal pronouncements about wanting to start a war with your neighbor
>get told repeatedly that if you do then other nations will declare war on you
>do it anyway
>shocked when other nations declare war and suddenly aren't interested in signing a peace after you invade and genocide your neighbor because they are on land you want

Hitler was a dipshit and failed at everything he set out to do, thus justifying that his beliefs were retarded and self destructive
Anonymous No.212954533 >>212954606
>>212954473
Well it doesn't. Instead Bomber Harris's cuckold country is a foreign colony and he wouldn't recognize it. He murdered white men for literally nothing--so that millions of disgusting foreigners could rape his granddaughters in the street.

I sure hope the afterlife is real so that he can watch his descendants take nine miles of black dick and then have their throats cut. What a brave man, bombing white men for filthy kikes and to help Communists steal half of Europe.

No consequences for any of that, right? Just shit colored people tearing down your country and raping your grand-daugthers, but at least the Jews got what they wanted right?
Anonymous No.212954550 >>212954593
>>212952635 (OP)
A chudcel starts a war and conquers territory, then pleas for peace? Why would anyone in good faith accept the peace deal offered by an aggressive ultranationalist with a war economy?
Anonymous No.212954551 >>212954594
>>212954500
>and you warmongering zionists
Anonymous No.212954554
>>212953249
>>its ok to break treaties you agreed to when you unilaterally decide theyre no longer a good deal for you
that's literally how international treaties work
Anonymous No.212954558
>>212954503
Makes it funnier! You murder the ones who actually liked you, and then instantly surrender to their allies who hate you.

Guess that's irony, British faggots like irony, don't they? I've noticed the Angloid Cuck isn't really funny anymore, is this because they have realized that the joke is on them?
Anonymous No.212954576
>>212953782
So if it's written in 1989, wouldn't there be more proof of those intentions after the fall of the USSR and the opening of those archives?
Anonymous No.212954593 >>212954615 >>212954640
>>212954550
Great question. Why DID the British ally with the Soviet Union?
Anonymous No.212954594 >>212954652
>>212954551
I like how didn't refute my statement about NATO and Serbia at all. And yes, Russia loves Jew cock but at least it doesn't depend on it like you do.
Anonymous No.212954606 >>212954621
>>212954533
>He murdered white men
Hitler had zero White allies and according to naziboos he waged war exclusively against White people.
Not only he worshipped non-whites, he put a non-white symbol on his own flag, and waged war against christianity in Germany.
Anonymous No.212954615
>>212954593
Anonymous No.212954621 >>212954664
>>212954606
>he put a non-white symbol on his own flag,
because it looked cool. Taking cool things from stinking thirdies and making them better is what the white man does.
Anonymous No.212954640 >>212954720
>>212954593
Why did the Germans ally with the Soviet Union?
Why did the Germans cause the Soviet Union to exist in the first place?
Never forget: Germany is responsible for Communism
Anonymous No.212954643 >>212954678
>>212954161
>I don't have a job, it must be because of nepotism!
You're probably just a faggot, I didn't have shit growing up and paid for my own tuition and now I have a well paying job. Stop being a welfare faggot who blames others.
Anonymous No.212954652 >>212954700
>>212954594
NATO is based, Russia is regional power and I don't know what the fuck is serbia.
Anonymous No.212954664
>>212954621
>because it looked cool
No. It's because they were we wuzzin as Indo-Iranian.
Anonymous No.212954665
>>212953515
>FIGHT TO THE LAST MAN
>oh shit I might have to fight? -ACK
Anonymous No.212954678
>>212954643
that's the sort of people who wish for a glorious nazi reich, people who have no inherent value of any kind nor any desire to create value through self improvement
so they dream of a world where merely being born the right race would automatically afford them status and power they do not deserve
Anonymous No.212954700
>>212954652
>I don't know what the fuck is serbia.
That's embarassing. You have no fucking right to argue with me about history or politics.
Anonymous No.212954720
>>212954640
>Why did the Germans ally with the Soviet Union?
I like how the Russians like to pretend that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact never happened.
Anonymous No.212954737 >>212954789 >>212954860
>>212954500
> Because NATO violated their 'defense only' pact
NATO has no such pact with Russia. NATO styles itself as a defense-only alliance but it has made no international guarantees that it would remain so, least of all with Russia.

But that being said, from 1991 to 2024, not a single piece of NATO military hardware moved East even if the alliance itself did expand that way. NATO only started moving bases, vehicles, missiles and troops East AFTER Russia began its war with Ukraine by invading Crimea.

> Shit changed with Serbia
Yes. Chiefly, what changed was that Russia was introduced to the idea that it couldn’t back mass-murdering dictators and that NATO would not stand idly by while Serbians massacred Kosavars. Even then, since you’re predictable, it is worth noting that before the intervention the various NATO countries had spent months attempting to stop the ethnic cleansing, for which there was ample evidence of its occurrence, through means other than war, and military intervention was carried out without UN approval solely because Russia and China would have vetoed it because neither care about human lives in the face of territorial integrity.

Compare/contrast, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was preceded by no negotiations, and evidence of Ukrainian “atrocities” against ethnic Russians is extremely slim at best.
Anonymous No.212954741
>>212952806
meh Churchill was a gigachad
Anonymous No.212954789
>>212954737
> from 1991 to 2024
*2014, Mea culpa.
Anonymous No.212954796
>>212952749
>treaties are illegal when I don't get everything my way
Friendly reminder that Versailles was extremely lax on Germany, all they had to do was give up territories they stole before WW1 and not build a massive army. The reparations they cry so much about were paid by the Americans. Yet they still kvetch about it.
One Dresden was not enough
Anonymous No.212954811 >>212954904
>>212952635 (OP)
Same reason they omitted Hitler's crossdressing troops. Hollywood no longer cares for historical accuracy.
Anonymous No.212954813 >>212954874
>>212952925
The Blitz targeted military infrastructure.
Anonymous No.212954846 >>212955069 >>212955087
>>212953821
There was about an 8 month gap between invading Poland and the escalation of invading France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway.

It should be noted that besides France, the other 4 were strategic exercises. Scandinavia in particular was invaded to shield against an Ally invasion and naval blockade which the Allies did indeed have plans for
Anonymous No.212954860 >>212955357
>>212954737
>NATO only started moving bases, vehicles, missiles and troops East AFTER Russia began its war with Ukraine by invading Crimea.
No they just undermined Ukraine's elections and did their usual color revolution shit stirring instead until they could feign shock when Putin did something about it
>Chiefly, what changed was that Russia was introduced to the idea that it couldn’t back mass-murdering dictators
stopped reading there
Funny how the USA/NATO are happy for such regimes to exist as long as they benefit their causes (Africa, Middle East) but if another country dares to have a strategic alliance that could threaten their hegemony they make some bullshit moralising excuse to carpet bomb them into existence
I would rather die than live the life of an average Russian, I just can't stand the hypocrisy and righteousness from NATO cocksuckers.
Anonymous No.212954868 >>212954910
>>212953882
Sad but true. Life is worse because the bad guys won desu
Anonymous No.212954874 >>212955102
>>212954813
Blitz targetted White people in White countries.
Anonymous No.212954883
Janny niggers are beyond embarrassing.
Anonymous No.212954893 >>212954912
>>212954111
Well I mean he did declare war on the Soviet Union and killed like 100 billion of them, so…
Anonymous No.212954904 >>212954975 >>212954976
>>212954811
The nazis gassed faggots just like anyone else they felt was inferior or polluting their precious gene pool

3 pictures of a German soldier wearing a dress while coming down from a 10 day meth bender advance is not evidence that somehow the nazis were okay with crossdressers or other flavors of faggot
Anonymous No.212954910 >>212954974 >>212955202
>>212954868
What would you be doing if the nazis won?
Anonymous No.212954912
>>212954893
Leftie infighting. It's like Rowling vs troons.
Anonymous No.212954918 >>212955006
>>212954260
Bro, the colonial empires literally were brown people
Anonymous No.212954930 >>212955050
>>212952635 (OP)
Puppet of Bernard Baruch and the Rothschild family.
Anonymous No.212954948
>>212954321
>what’s next, Hitler wants MORE of its historic land and ethnic groups under its domain after the local populations ran a referendum and decided they wanted Germany to annex them?!
>we CANNOT allow voting when Democracy is at stake
Anonymous No.212954971
>>212954448
I say shit like this irl, not even meming.
Gott Strafe England
Anonymous No.212954974
>>212954910
Speaking German.
Anonymous No.212954975 >>212955051 >>212955137
>>212954904
>is not evidence that somehow the nazis were okay with crossdressers or other flavors of faggot
There was a famous trans athlete in nazi germany. Ernst Röhm was gay too. And we can argue about Hitler but Eva was clearly a beard.
Anonymous No.212954976 >>212955137
>>212954904
>not evidence that somehow the nazis were okay with crossdressers or other flavors of faggot

How about evidence of Nazis fielding a transgender man against women to represent Nazi Germany during Olympics in 1936? Socialists are known for their meth benders, but that was a big one, eh?
Anonymous No.212955000 >>212955105 >>212956228
>>212954463
>they were tyrants!
>forces white people into jail for saying they don’t like mass immigration
Anonymous No.212955003
>>212953602
Lel but they were empty before the brits went there, keep on tossing false equivalences it entertains me
Anonymous No.212955006
>>212954918
So was axis lmao, but those were German allies, not slaves and servants.
Anonymous No.212955009 >>212955172
>>212952883
>Also, the bombing of civilian population centres began with "Bomber Harris"
You are such a clueless retard lmao. Literally first thing Germans did on September 1 was bombing civilian settlements. RAF on the other hand didn't bomb German cities with anything but leaflets until August 1940
>To be fair, the "sovereign nations" they invaded were carved out of the German Empire only several years prior
Where do I even begin with this? Chechoslovakia wasn't ever part of Germany. Austria wasn't part of Germany since the high middle ages at least. Parts of Poland were since the Vienna congress (1815) and they rebelled in 1919 so clearly not enjoyed being included in le ebin reich.
All the narrative about post-versailles states being something new and out of place compared to Germany, which was only formed mere 4 decades before WW1, is absurd in itself. According to this logic, all of Germany should be French I guess.
Go back to jerk off to zoomer historian
Anonymous No.212955047 >>212955099
>>212952635 (OP)
why does he look like that
is he retarded
Anonymous No.212955050
>>212954930
>Rothschild family
Care to explain why did Nazis release baron Rotschild in exchange for stocks in his companies?
Anonymous No.212955051 >>212955145
>>212954975
>The athlete was arrested, and sent to Hohenlychen sports sanatorium for further tests, with the same results. Criminal proceedings continued until 10 March 1939, when the public prosecutor stated: "Fraud cannot be deemed to have taken place because there was no intention to reap financial reward." Dora promised the authorities he would "cease engaging in sport with immediate effect". The athlete's father, Heinrich Ratjen, initially insisted that Dora should continue to be treated as female but on 29 March 1939 wrote to the police chief of Bremen: "Following the change of the registry office entry regarding the child's sex, I would request you change the child's first name to Heinrich." The gold medal won by Ratjen was returned and his name expunged from the records.
Anonymous No.212955069 >>212955311
>>212954846
How does taking scandinavia protect against navy?
Anonymous No.212955070 >>212955324
>>212954527
A lot of that “master race” shit is mistranslated.
It’s basically an appeal to geopolitical power based on historical stability. What they’re really saying is “historically, the Germans have served the role as the hegemond of various ethnic groups in Central Europe and have shown a great capability of managing these groups with great mutual benefit”
Sure it’s an Imperial Mindset, but it’s not the “I am going to kill you because you’re inferior.” High Aggro shit that Judeo-Saxon retards project onto it.
Anonymous No.212955077 >>212955184
>>212952925
>Allied Stratigic bombing wasn't until after the Blitz.
Not really. Germany's bombing of Britain was incredibly strict, up to an including prohibitions on striking naval vessels heading in the direction of port. Britain struck Berlin with strategic bombers first. The thing is, the British bombers could not hit shit (the Norden Bomb sight and its equivalents came later) and wound up obliterating civilian neighborhoods while attempting to hit military targets. This pissed the German off and then they initiated the Blitz.
Anonymous No.212955085
>>212953146
>they had started
American education, everyone
Anonymous No.212955087 >>212955142
>>212954846
So they took the land not out of moral reaons or to defend against them but because they just wanted it.
Anonymous No.212955099
>>212955047
Let's not throw stones in Hitler's high command.
Anonymous No.212955102 >>212955204 >>212955213
>>212954874
Like 8 people total died in the invasion of Denmark
Anonymous No.212955105
>>212955000
okay find me an instance of that happening in France, you can do that right?
Anonymous No.212955135 >>212955384
Why didn't Hitler just wait for the Soviets to declare war on Poland and then team up with the West against them?
Anonymous No.212955137
>>212954976
>>212954975
Come on do better. Again, one example of one person not immediately being shot on sight is not evidence that the nazis did not execute inferior non-breeders. They killed faggots out of principle, and kept around a handful of mascots (which they inevitably were going to sacrifice as a scapegoat anyways)

And apparently that person wasn't even trans and was coerced to doing it by the nazis
>However, in 1966, Time magazine reported that, in 1957, Dora had presented as Hermann, a waiter in Bremen, "who tearfully confessed that he had been forced by the Nazis to pose as a woman 'for the sake of the honor and glory of Germany'. Sighed Hermann: 'For three years I lived the life of a girl. It was most dull.'"[6]
Anonymous No.212955142
>>212955087
"Moral reason" trumping pure strategic reasoning in war is how you get genocides and the like. You've got your cart before your horse.
Anonymous No.212955145
>>212955051
>'Dora' refuses to suck some faggot SS cock
>they miraculously realize he is a man years later and imprison him
Anonymous No.212955169 >>212955207 >>212955234 >>212955302
>>212952635 (OP)
The entire world is waking up to the false WW2 narrative we've been fed for 80 years and certain groups are TERRIFIED.

Look at the desperate attempt at gatekeeping and gaslighting ITT. I can smell the fear. It reeks of fear.
Anonymous No.212955172 >>212955251
>>212955009
>Germany, which was only formed mere 4 decades before WW1
Famillio one of Canuts daughters went to the german kingdom in like 1066
Anonymous No.212955184 >>212955240
>>212955077
It was no accident. British doctrine was to target civilians. Part of that decision may have been an assessment of overall ability to reliably hit military targets, but the primary reason was it was determined civilian bombing would demoralize the enemy, having more impact than simple elimination of military targets. Technically it was the US doctrine at the time as well but once they actually got involved in the war they stuck mostly with daylight raids on military targets. The Brits mocked them for it.
Anonymous No.212955202 >>212955412
>>212954910
Ironically I’d probably be living in Ukraine/Liev as a minor government official. Probably lower upper class.
My father’s family were Kulaks whose land was appropriated by the Soviet regime and my mother’s family were German war vets with political connections
Anonymous No.212955204
>>212955102
>o-only 8 white people died you fucking chud
Fuentes already making excuses.
Anonymous No.212955207 >>212955559
>>212955169
No one is intimated vatnik. Moscow will burn in nuclear fire.
Anonymous No.212955213 >>212955297
>>212955102
Is Denmark the only White country in the world? What a retarded thing to even type. The Dutch were brought to submission with mass bombardment of civilians, you ever heard of that? Germutts committed atrocities in every country they invaded but keep convincing yourself that all the post-war resentment towards them is an effect of the EviL jEwIsh brAInwAsHinG!!!
Anonymous No.212955234
>>212955169
Yawn, meds
Anonymous No.212955240
>>212955184
Personally I agree, but its a harder argument to make than just leaving it at the well know inability of British bombers to reliably hit their targets. The results were pretty much the same.
Anonymous No.212955251
>>212955172
>I am a fucking retard and learn history from youtube shorts
Thanks for sharing
Anonymous No.212955257 >>212955353 >>212955354
>>212953211

France occupied the Saar valley before any German offensive.
Anonymous No.212955297 >>212955489 >>212955507 >>212955570
>>212955213
>Dutch were brought to submission with mass bombardment of civilians
The bombing of Rotterdam killed less than a thousand and the destruction was largely contained. Whatever the wider implication, the bombing of Rotterdam was a testament to the capabilities of German bomber pilots.
Anonymous No.212955302 >>212955336
>>212955169
>entire world is waking up to the false WW2 narrative we've been fed for 80 years and certain groups are TERRIFIED.

This, there were attempts to portray Germany as some champions of White people while they had no White allies and waged war only against White countries.
Anonymous No.212955311 >>212955386
>>212955069
Control of the Danish straight prevents the British from entering the Baltic Sea
Control of Norway protects shipping lanes in the North Sea that were vitally important for high quality iron supply from the mines up there.
Germany starved in WW1 because the British could easily blockade them easily with a limited coastline. The thrust north was done specifically to counter that tactic
Anonymous No.212955324 >>212955458
>>212955070
Anon if you're not just a disingenuous nazi attempting to distort reality so you can inhabit a comfortable level if cognitive dissonance, please stop huffing nazi propaganda.

Hitler made his name by being as outrageous as possible and cloaking his outwardly genocidal ideas in euphemism in order to make it more palatable for normal people, which you were at one point. But they just frog-in-a-pot-of-watered you until you slowly have come around to "wellllllll maybe it was just a mistranslation!!" Look at what Hitler wanted, look at what he got. He repeatedly claimed that other races didn't deserve to live, and then he had them killed en masse. You can equivocate about how it was an accident or whatever cope makes you most comfortable but even if it was just "whoops we ran out of food", they still chose to put those people in that position and then chose to starve, disease, and neglect them to death. Millions of people. Who just so happened to be the people Hitler said didn't deserve to live. "Natural hegemon" or not, that was and is objectively evil.
Anonymous No.212955336 >>212955379
>>212955302
You failed to contain the truth. It's too late and you know it.
Anonymous No.212955353
>>212955257
Germans controlled Saar army before any French offensive.
Anonymous No.212955354
>>212955257
Do not redeem the Saar Valley!!!!!
Anonymous No.212955357 >>212955867
>>212954860
> No they just undermined Ukraine's elections
Literally no evidence of this. Russia just can’t wrap its mind around the idea that even their “brothers” in Ukraine want nothing to do with their miserable, backwards-facing nekulturny selves and so invented the idea of a CIA plot.
Anonymous No.212955379 >>212955509 >>212955525
>>212955336
>contain the truth
Name White German allies. Let's us see how you try to contain truth.
Anonymous No.212955384
>>212955135
Because the Allies would never go to war against the Soviets even though they
>Invaded Ukraine
>Invaded Estonia
>Invaded Lithuania
>Invaded Latvia
>Invaded Finland
>Invaded Bessarabia/Romania
>Funded coups and rebels in Spain
>Funded revolutionary groups in Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Germany

Hitler saw this and knew the Allie’s would never do shit
Anonymous No.212955386 >>212955544 >>212955601 >>212955799
>>212955311
I'm pretty brainlet, but does it really matter what ports you have when the British navy is still superior?
Also the baltic sea really just gives access to Russia and places they already controlled no?
Anonymous No.212955412 >>212955622
>>212955202
You have no idea what would you be doing because just like the culture and mentality of people in America, the UK, but even Spain or Portugal (which were facist in the 40s) has changed massively since 1940s, Nazi Germany would have also undergone a massive transformation after their victory. Do you even now that many of the former nazi officials were responsible for importing turkish workers in the 60s and 70s post war? Clearly they didn't need to be brainwashed by heckin jews.
Shut your mouth you asiatic monkey, your brain is too small for the speculations you are attempting.
Anonymous No.212955438 >>212955476
>>212954249
Jesus, what happened to Europe? At least America was originally Mexican to begin with.
Anonymous No.212955458 >>212955540 >>212955647
>>212955324
“Master Race” is literally derived from Master/Slave morality - IE Nietzsche.
Germans saw themselves as a race capable and destined for governance over more chaotic states and people. That’s the argument and not at all different from the Anglo-Saxon stance on Colonialism which happen to dominate the entire planet
Anonymous No.212955469
>>212952635 (OP)
These threads are all similar in that the leftists posting are in contact with the mods. The minute they don't like the information posted they nuke the thread.

Dump infographics and watch it 404.
Anonymous No.212955476
>>212955438
>At least America was originally Mexican to begin with.
Nope.
Anonymous No.212955489
>>212955297
The also killed a shitload of people in Amsterdam, either directly or indirectly by taking their food and resources.
Anonymous No.212955507
>>212955297
>o-only thousand people died, that is a testament of life-saving skills akshully
Are you even white? You seem like a huge retard with bugman's mindset.
How about you kill yourself, if 1000 is nothing then what are you?
Anonymous No.212955509
>>212955379
Finland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy
Anonymous No.212955525
>>212955379
Kys amerimutt
Anonymous No.212955540 >>212955655
>>212955458
Okay so because other people were doing horrible and wrong things means that when someone else comes along and does even more horrible and wrong things that makes it all hunkey-dorey?

One genocide does not justify another. Stop trying to justify genocide.
Anonymous No.212955544 >>212955636
>>212955386
The more ports you have, the more room the British have to cover. They British couldn’t be everywhere at once and thus could not hold an effective blockade
Anonymous No.212955559
>>212955207
*London, Tel Aviv, Washington DC
Anonymous No.212955570
>>212955297
The only reason why they didn't kill more was because the Dutch are stereotypically cheap and cut the budget for their army so much that it was functionally useless and justified it by being neutral so they wouldn't be attacked in case of war. When it turned out that the Germans didn't give a fuck about neutrality anymore like they did in Wo1 they folded after they bombed Rotterdam.
Anonymous No.212955601
>>212955386
Control of the Baltic means that the Brits cannot project strength into the Baltic Sea. Which means Germans can use that whole section as an uncontested shipping area and likewise don’t need to fear naval invasion. It also means they can concentrate their naval defense forces in the North Sea
Anonymous No.212955622
>>212955412
Idk what to say man, you asked the question and I gave a response based on the political circumstances of my family.
My grandparents lost a lot of family wealth and upward mobility as the result of WW2
Anonymous No.212955636 >>212955720 >>212955740
>>212955544
But if they had more boats why not just shell the ports then no need to cover, and if the Germans offer battle to defend you win and have total sea control?
Anonymous No.212955647 >>212955822
>>212955458
In fact, the views of Anglo-Saxon's own superiority predate German theories of master race. Theories which come from a skewed perspective of Nietzsche's writings, mind you. Nietzsche hated his fellow Germans for their pettiness and conformism.
Anonymous No.212955655 >>212955868 >>212955882 >>212955960
>>212955540
If the French and British are so horrible why the fuck do you side with them in WW2?
The British were literally genociding cultures in the third world, but the NAZIs are bad because they want to protect the Germans from hostile cultures?
Anonymous No.212955666 >>212955685 >>212955734
>>212952635 (OP)
At least we're not speaking German. Just Arabic.
Anonymous No.212955685
>>212955666
Nazis worshipped arabs and turks btw
Anonymous No.212955720 >>212955925
>>212955636
If they got too close, the Germans could bomb via plane or fire coastal naval batteries. If you risk your navy, then you risk control of the sea. It’s easier to defend than to attack with navy.

Let’s not forget that Germans also had a decent naval force. British Naval doctrine was indeed to draw it out into a pitched battle because they’d win 1v1 but the Germans could exert naval pressure if they didn’t get dragged out.

Navy is all about control space and not really pitched battles. Pitched battles are generally a last resort or to force someone’s hand
Anonymous No.212955734
>>212955666
Enjoy your ban vladdy
Anonymous No.212955740 >>212955807 >>212955925
>>212955636
NTA but you're imagining the British navy in WWII as the end all be all superior fleet, which they were to an extent but everything has their limits.

To start, they had a finite number of ships and on the isles themselves, not a whole lot of resources to make more. Second, they had a MASSIVE empire that required naval ships all over the planet which stretched their finite number of ships thin. Third, after France fell and it was clear the British would be on their own for a time, they then had to divert resources to protecting allied convoys or else they would figuratively and literally starve. It's also important to note that the British lost a number of their handful of aircraft carriers near to the start of the war and more as time went on, at a time when aircraft carriers were clearly being shown as superior to the classical battleship or any other ship class for that matter. And of course there is fuel, it doesn't matter if you have hundreds of ships at your disposal if you run them constantly for a year or so and then run out of oil to sail them. So to answer your quesion: resources are finite, and you can't be everywhere at once.
Anonymous No.212955799 >>212955838 >>212955925
>>212955386
Germany was dependent on swedish iron ore and it got delivered via ships
Anonymous No.212955807 >>212955894 >>212955934
>>212955740
How tf they lose an aircraft carrier
Anonymous No.212955822
>>212955647
Hitler stole concept of master race and slave races from jews.
Anonymous No.212955838
>>212955799
That ore was actually shipped through the North Sea channel, not the Baltic Sea.
Anonymous No.212955853
>>212954381
There's nothing Christian about that mess in your head, /pol/troon.
Anonymous No.212955867
>>212955357
Ah yes, totally not CIA, from the people who say Russia influenced american elections with $50k worth of facebook ads.
Anonymous No.212955868
>>212955655
Germany was not being threatened by "hostile cultures". That is nazi propaganda designed to create a justification for territorial expansion.

The reasons for the global alignment against Germany are too many and detailed for me to explain here, and I am by no means an expert. If you want an explanation I suggest you read works by Dr. Sarah Paine.
Anonymous No.212955869
>>212952635 (OP)
You'd have to be a fucking idiot not to see that the only reason Hitler wanted "peace" was to reorganize his newly claimed territory and give his trrops some rest to eventually attack again.
Anonymous No.212955882
>>212955655
The nazis bankrupted germany for weapons then tried to pay debnts by plundering neigboring countries and grabbing the jews' gold.
They were Hugo Boss wearing grifters
Anonymous No.212955894
>>212955807
Well they lost a couple. But the one I was thinking of was lost during a convoy expedition to resupply Malta to an Italian (I believe) submarine
Anonymous No.212955925 >>212955996 >>212955997 >>212956701 >>212956858
>>212955720
>>212955740
>>212955799
Am I dumb for thinking this play was too conservative?
You have the superior fleet in the north sea alone.
Call in the entire fleet from all corners save a tiny punative force for rebellions, park it off the German coast and either force an engagement or wipe their ports from the map so they have no shipping
Anonymous No.212955929
>>212954448
>this is what demented glavset hookers actually believe
Anonymous No.212955934
>>212955807
Naval warfare is super chaotic and disorganized. For example Germany had a fucking battleship in South America when the war started that got hard ganked

Ship captains had to rely a lot on their own devices and planning to figure what’s going on and how to get things done
Anonymous No.212955960
>>212955655
>protect the Germans from hostile cultures
More headcanon to clumsily hide the fact that germans were always the ones attacking, sometimes for totally nonsensical reasons (Balkan campaign, declaring war on the US)
Anonymous No.212955962
>>212952635 (OP)
Anonymous No.212955964
>>212954260
The fuck? When did Ryan Gosling meet Hitler?
Anonymous No.212955989
>>212954360
Completely untrue.
Anonymous No.212955996
>>212955925
The Luftwaffe will wipe out your entire fleet if you do that and then you'll have gotten yourself Trafalgar'd into losing the war

It's not that simple. Plus then you will have been siphoning resources to do that from the far east, which Japan will exploit
Anonymous No.212955997
>>212955925
i suspect putting your battleships close to hostile land filled with airfields is asking for total destruction
Anonymous No.212956228 >>212956238
>>212955000
Even if that was happening, it doesn't change the fact that nazis were Godless, backstabbing parasites, watch nazi made movies from the era, the SA was celebrated during the years of struggle when they had to fight commies on the streets, then they were sidelined on the night of the long knives, nazis have no honor, no moral code, they'll appeal to religion then destroy christian churches the next day, their only ideology is taking and holding power in the hands of the leaders of the Party.
Anonymous No.212956238 >>212956262 >>212956270
>>212956228
>Godless
This statement is so easily debunked. You are a liar.
Anonymous No.212956262
>>212956238
Enjoy your ban.
Anonymous No.212956270 >>212956789
>>212956238
>take one word out and say that it's not true
>call everything else a lie as well

/pol/ isn't sending their best today
Anonymous No.212956352
Why did they omit the scene where Putin rejected Zelensky's plea for peace?
Anonymous No.212956385
>>212952635 (OP)
>Churchill rides the subway
>random interracial couple, black male white woman start asking him questions
>this is supposed to be England in 1940s

take a wild guess
Anonymous No.212956403 >>212956617
>calls for peace as their backstab you
Why are nazis so jewish in their actions?
Anonymous No.212956617
>>212956403
Nazis were literally chuds in nice looking uniforms. I. e. low-test bullying victims who just wanted to feel powerful for once. Evidence 1, just look at the phyical characteristics of a gnome like Goebbels lmao. Evidence 2, once their regime fell, they all either hid like rats or, when captured, they fell back into their meek bureaucratic "I was just following orders", "I din kno nuffin" demeanor.
Anonymous No.212956701
>>212955925
If by some chance you fuck up (keep in mind you don’t know what the German navy/Airforce is capable of) you lose your entire fleet and force projection and now Germany can starve your island nation to death in 30 days without firing a bullet
Anonymous No.212956789
>>212956270
There is no "best" with these reprogrammed lard creatures and Russian trollfarm enthusiasts.
Anonymous No.212956858
>>212955925
Playing conservatively is why the British won. WW2 was heavily stacked against the Germans who basically had to gamble everything and win every time to win.
In contrast the British held the upper hand by controlling a global empire that held dominion over half the world’s natural resources.


Put simply if the British lost their navy, they lose WW2. If the Germans lost their Navy, the war continues pretty much as normal - the British alone didn’t have the capability to invade mainland Europe
Anonymous No.212957347 >>212959279
>>212954461
That's the thing, history does matter. Russia historically treated politics as RAI, when modern west at large treats it as RAW.
This is where most of animosity happens, west is incredibly adept at opportunistic lawyer politics, where if it isn't written on paper then it doesn't exist no ifs and buts.
Russia on the other hand expects unwritten intent of politics to be of bigger importance than whatever the paper holds. It comes all the way from monarchy and never really lost itself to bureaucratic governing machine as Russia never really ceased to be monarchy in any of its states.
Anonymous No.212957380
>>212952635 (OP)
Narrative.
Anonymous No.212957765
>>212953456
>Ukraine broke it by shelling and absuing Russian speaking minorities in disputed regions of their territory
You mean, Russia funded and supported radical leftist groups to create socialist republics inside the country to destabilize it?
The number of civilian deaths is a direct result of Russian military action.
Anonymous No.212958565
>>212952635 (OP)
jew producers, director, actors, etc
Anonymous No.212958658
>>212952749
Maybe Germany shouldn’t have started the war then?
Anonymous No.212959279 >>212959376 >>212959480
>>212957347
I think a lot of animosity toward the Judeo-Saxon Empire comes from the presumption that we use RAW but in reality it’s just RAI.
Anonymous No.212959376 >>212959480
>>212959279
Jews use either interchangeably.
Anonymous No.212959443
>>212952635 (OP)
Shitler lost, get over it loser
Anonymous No.212959480
>>212959279
>>212959376
literally every nation on earth does this and international politics is purely performative to persuade each country's own people its policies are justified

The sooner you realize this the happier you'll be
Anonymous No.212959503
>>212952635 (OP)
>loses the war
>wins aura contest
Anonymous No.212959897
You literally can’t look at the state of Western countries. mass third world migration, social decay, degeneracy, death of religion, and think that Germany was wrong

Every little deflection is just cope. They’ll throw anything at the wall to manipulate you

InB4 someone calls me a brown trannie despite the West worshipping brown trannies
Anonymous No.212960108
>>212954463
>>212954147
>>212954072
>>212953954

You're losing the optics battle
Anonymous No.212960185
>>212952635 (OP)
Because history is under constant revision. It's all about controlled narratives.

>>212952721
>they skip the part where Jews were the leading architects behind communist revolutions happening all over Europe, including the "German Revolution" after WW1, which is what made Hitler hate Jews and commies.
Anonymous No.212960415
I liked the part where the black guy with the white girlfriend in 40s London told Churchill that he should definitely go send a few million Englishmen to go die fighting le heckin' nazis
Anonymous No.212960795
>This dictator who has invaded multiple different countries says he wants peace
>Better believe him or you're le warmonger :^)
Churchill was 100% right about Hitler and he was right about him much earlier than that, at a time when it was politically very incorrect to say so. If 4chan actually read about history and didn't just get all of its info from memes on twitter this would not be shocking news.