NOOOOOOOOOO

the moral of the story is to never forgive people

>>212962084 (OP)
HE WAS A SENATOR OF ROME

>>212962110
and don't put a golden throne in the middle of a Senate house.

>>212962084 (OP)
>>212962084 (OP)
Wait till you hear about the graccii bros

>>212962084 (OP)
this was a better death compared to the brutal way his sponsor Crassus died

>60 senators attack
>only 28 stab wounds
>only one was actually fatal
What a terrible assassination performance. Just raw attrition.

>>212962259
It was fake, Caesar escaped to Argentina

>>212962256
Crassus was probably killed by arrows and the entire story was made up for propaganda.

>>212962084 (OP)
Et tu, Brute?

SILENC-AACK

>>212962084 (OP)
>wife has a nightmare in which he dies and tells him not to go to senate that day
>gets handed a note on his way to the senate informing him about the conspiracy
>a senator makes a big show of whispering something in caesar's ear outside the senate house just to fuck with the conspirators
you cant make this shit up

>>212962318
maybe, they probably did it to inflict fear and demoralize i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llquJck7D-0

>>212962110
>>212962162
>>212962211
>>212962256
And what of good Solonius?

>>212962084 (OP)
>Mr. Fitzjames, arrest these mutineers at once! E-et tu, Mr, Fitzjames?!

>>212962084 (OP)
bodied that tyrant freak

>>212962579
>Remember Brutus, the Lord lies in all domains

Why didn't the senate just arm themselves after this? Allow everyone to wear daggers. It worked for getting rid of Caesar. They could've done the same to that brat Octavian. Just stab Octavian to death and they have to find someone else to be a tyrant. In Minecraft.

>>212962689
because Octavian had soldiers with swords

>>212962689
Octavian had a 7ft tall giganigga Marcus Agrippa with him, he was also his chief general, admiral and architect.

>>212962689
Didn't they want everything to go back to normal like it used to be? It was supposed to be a safe place. And any schemer would just take advantage of everyone being armed all the time

>>212962084 (OP)
Caesar is sleeping with the fishes

>>212962689
it was illegal to have weapons in the central part of the city where all the government buildings were, the penalty for having one was death
they were also mostly haughty noblemen who liked to pretend they're above murder like that

>>212962084 (OP)

>>212962754
He was his son in law

>>212962754
>architect
Gotta be pretty skilled to make women fat before processed food was invented

>>212962864
Whos gonna enforce that? Some guy with no weapons?

>>212962966
and?

Reminder that Caesar was a communist who wanted to redistribute wealth to the lower classes.

>mogs the Rome Augustus despite not being an accurate portrayal of the real man
how did he do it?

>>212963064

He was actually more like a MAGA nationalist that wanted to reform the globalist oligarchical paradigm

>>212963064
>>212963128
No, he actually agreed with my ideology and with me personally as well.

>>212963064
Sell the nobles had shipped off the middle class to sicily for so long that their families had to sell the farms to the nobles who had slaves work the land, resulting in soldiers coming not from the voting farmer class but the owns nothing to fight for so will give loyalty to an individual general and not the state as a whole class which brought about all the civil wars

>>212963064
he wasn't a commie but he was definitely the progressive type of his day

>>212963064
He was an populist opportunist, like the Gracchi

>>212963064
That's not what communism is.

>>212963023
basically everyone enforced it
it was a religious thing
bringing a weapon into the pomerium was sacrilege
not even caesar dared to do it

>>212963233
Oligarch propaganda.

>>212963257
Everyone talks about how brutal those times were but then you have those rules and after a battle they let the other guys bury the dead n shit

>>212962318
The whole gold story started back in Rome anyway, and was more about advising against hubris than being actually historical. It seems fairly certain he died during a botched attempt at negotiating a ceasefire with the Parthians after his heavy losses.

>>212963128
Caesar main goal was to create a check on the oligarchs and realized the only way to do that was to wield supreme executive power using a mandate from the masses.

>>212963407
You mean his incredible tactic for countering the Parthian horse archers, "wait for them to run out of arrows", didn't work?

>>212963681
>Senator... a second arrow baggage train has hit the enemy lines

>>212963681
it usually worked, Romans BTFO Parthia most of the time

>>212963891
Except that emporer who was stuffed and put in the lobby

>>212963681
>they've run out of arrows
>at last, move formations forward
>sir, all our formations are full of arrows

>>212963961
>Good! Then we will fight in the shade!

>>212963958
He had it coming

>>212963625

>>212963064
>>212963128
>muh communism
>muh maga
i fucking hate americans posters

>>212964785
What? History rhymes. What's happening bow isn't the first and won't be the last. It's only ignorant morons (magas) that think trump was the first to con a large group of idiots into putting him into power

>>212964785
They can be rather tiresome I agree

>be an ambitious nigger general
>start a civil war and destroy your republic for no goddamn reason
>we wuz empire now mufugga
>strut around without bodyguards when you're antique Hitler
>get shanked
>OH NO HOW COULD YOU

>>212964879
He was the first since the party system to get past it even though the elites didnt want him

>>212962084 (OP)
we could have reached the moon by the 1400s instead enaissance was the best we got.

>>212965100
There are Roman colosseums on the dark side of the moon. They don't want you to know that.

A hilarious anecdote from Suetonius is that Caesar attempted to defend his conduct with Nicomedes, King of Bithynia, in the Senate and Cicero told him to keep silent because "we all know what you gave him [transl : your ass], and what he gave you [transl : his dick]".

Caesar had at one point in his life played the role of a catamite and none of his contemporaries would ever allow him to play it down. Probably why they were so quick to kill him ; imagine being a Senator from the noblest patrician stock and a literal faggot who (presumably) at one point gaped his anus for a Greek king attempts to tell you what to do, puts on a crown, and assumes royal airs. Yeah, I'd stab him too.

>>212962674
The Roman aquaducts were tainted with metals. It made the crazy! These guys just can't catch a break at any point in history

>>212965100
Rome was the dark age of humanity scientifically and culturally. In its ~1000 years of its existence before the collapse romans didn't invent shit, had no genuine culture (only one they awkwardly stole from the greeks), had no notable philosophers, no notable artists. All they did for a fucking millenia is plunder other nations, build roads, give jews more power, and take baths in lead water

>>212965208
The mighty Caesar! Taken as a woman!

>>212965297
yellow hands typed this

>>212965297
Hadrian didnt give them more power

>>212964785
America is the Third Rome. Sorry champ.

>>212964957
And now his name is synonymous with king.

He never got to see the Greek ballet that was waiting outside for him :'(

>>212965576
Emperor actually.

>>212962445
hubris is a hell of a drug

>>212962084 (OP)
>hail caesACK

>>212963064
Cato please

>>212962084 (OP)
>senators chimp out and kill him
>everyone realizes things were better with him

>>212962259
TWENTY
EIGHT
STAB
WOUNDS

>Sir, a second knife has stabbed Caesar... and a third.

they had to get it on, Caesar was making a move

>>212962259
Amateurs

>>212964957
>t. seething ZeusTard mad about Christianity

>>212962259
senators don't make for good killers

>>212967479
Weren't all those leaders in the Army at some point?

>>212965297
they invented things that they only allowed their own citizens to use, all of which were scrapped for building blocks after their collapse because barbarians can't into quarrying across large distances.

>>212962259
>kai su, teknon?
;_;

>>212965460
More like second Canaan.

>>212968718
Kai sy, teknon Vroute?*

>>212964303
Smart ass peasant

>>212962084 (OP)
Thanks for the spoiler warning, faggot

>>212969041
Are you for real?

>>212965873
Done that Age of Empires playing freak

>>212969139
Just started watching this on HBO Max because I finished my rewatch of Game of Thrones.

>>212965297
Romans were about as industrialized as you get without combustion engines. You can literally walk around spain today and still clearly see the aftermath of their mining efforts on the terrain. Not to mention all the cities they founded, the ways they supplied those cities via aqueducts, the machines they indeed *invented* to allow themselves to build those things, and yes also the roads. They also genocided a bunch of people and replaced them with romanoboos constantly opining to restore its glory, which may or may not have been a good thing.

>The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but within ourselves

no cap more niggas should take that shit to heart fr

>>212963064
>Reminder that Caesar was a communist who wanted to redistribute wealth to the lower classes.

WOOOOW IT TOOK THE WHOLE SENATE OF YOU TO KILL ME!

>>212969185
Were you also shocked when Hitler killed himself at the end of Downfall?

>>212969192
>which may or may not have been a good thing
Isn't that the truth. The spat of Roman 'successor states' is a mixed bag to say the least

>>212969255
>Gets stabbed a 10th time
COME OOOOON

>>212964957
>for no reason
The Republic had been crumbling for the better part of a century by the time Caesar started his coup.

>>212963625
That's why popularism is to this day the most attacked ideology

>>212965208
And Caesar denied it under oath.

>>212962259

lesson how real world murder conspiracies work

apparently the senators accidentally stabbed each other as well

>>212963064
yeah he was a notorious do good softie. ask the gauls

>>212969313
No one seems to realise that Rome was actually a terrible oligarchy that sold out it's own middle and lower classes for most of its existence with only a few periods where it was a bit better

>>212969309
YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO GIVE IT JO BEST SHOT ESE.

I think Grimes summarized it all best with her simple three words; We Appreciate Power

>>212963064
Caesar was a fascist that wanted to remove shekel grubbing kikes from power.

>>212968490
late stage rome was run by wealthy elites who never held a sword in their lives

>>212962084 (OP)
Remember that everyone felt really bad about it afterwards and nobody wanted to be the first to stab him

Really it just shows how mob mentality will schizo up some delusion and than use it to justify killing you

>>212962084 (OP)
Chad envy is a disease

>>212969616
This is bullshit Caesar was going directly against the oligarchs interests if they regretted it, it was only because they almost immediately got btfo after

>>212962259
They all hesitated to do it because they all really actually like caeser
It was half hearted stabs and than they spent the rest of their lives guilty and antagonizing over it until a lot of them killed themselves out of guilt

Really the only based senator was Cato
>"Suck my dick Caeser, you're fucking gay dude"
>Acks himself rather than work under him
My Hero

>>212969658
I mean yeah they still did it. But they felt bad about it and lamented for their rest of their lives about it
It's the reason why Caeser become so personified into history

>>212965297
Genuinely retarded post

>that one senator who spergs out and grabs his robe in panic
that would definitely have been me in that situation

>>212965297
Are you a member of the People's Front of Judea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE

>>212969737
Again I think they only regretted it because they lost, kinda like I think people get more PTSD over wars society later deems as have being bad than ones it sees as good

>>212962110
the moral of the story is to never forgive people who never asked for your forgiveness and clearly hate you

>people mourning caesar
>when his adoptive son castrated the senate and took power from it, crowned himself CELESTIAL EMPEROR and founded the roman empire
Be mad about something that matters.

>>212962564
jew self-insert

>>212970262
i liked when this nigga told everyone in the empire to smear his brother's painted portraits with poop

>>212970262
um sweaty he was merely first among equals

>>212970262
Is crowning yourself celestial emperor supposed to be a bad thing? I would do the same, might even throw in a few extra adjectives to really drive home how almighty I am.

>>212962566
Excellent post

>>212970262
The Senate was a bunch of old rich pricks by then anyway

>>212969185
jesus gets cruzified

>>212970432
Yes, you dumb shit. They were a Republic specifically against Tyrants!

>>212962566

>>212970653
they should've governed themselves better then, so that everyone didn't end up loving the idea of a tyrant over their dysfunctional status quo

>>212970483
this is much funnier than it should be

>>212962445
>>212962084 (OP)
He likely knew he was dying from a shaking sickness contracted in Egypt.

>>212963064
>>212963233
At most, him and Gracchi just wanted to enforce laws and practices that had been there since the founding of the republic. It was an anti-corruption campaign. But Julius was half hearted and didn't dare everything he knew needed to be done. Which would have included abolishment of slavery of a large scale.

>>212971038
So do you believe he knew of the assassination and let it happen, or that he engineered it himself?

>The rumors of Caesar's demise are quite exaggerated.

>>212972054
>surrender
>get stripped and executed

>>212970653
>They were a Republic specifically against Tyrants!
They traded 300+ tyrants for one. A good deal.

>>212972054
Why didn't he just run at Caesar and try to stab him

>>212970474
Not immediately, he lost in 52 but was executed in 46

I like how these threads are either Solonius/Consul posting, talking about incest and rape, or Caesar's death but rarely all three at once.

Someday Deadwood will get this treatment. You'll see.

>>212972441
probably didnt want the romans to take revenge on his people in response
caesar had already deleted a couple tribes from history at that point

>>212972197
In exchange for ending the war and sparing your remaining people. That's the sacrifice a leader must make.

>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation. Well, it all started with this river called The Rubicon...

>>212963064
>t. brutus

>>212962171
Nah, just have your veteran legionaries execute them all. And don't forget the male relatives of all ages.

You can show generosity by supplying your supporters and neutrals with their assets.

>>212969737
Brutus died a decade later to antony
Most of the rest ended on proscription lists

>>212972758
Except his remaining people got enslaved

>>212974635
VAE VICTIS

>>212962171
It was decidedly plain and chair-like.

>>212962259
Fancy lad senators with limp stabbing wrists

>>212972054
imagine being a gaul during the battle of Alesia. I would be seething so fucking hard

>>212969667
Cato the younger is my favorite Roman. He's such an autist about morals. If he had been less of an autist he could have worked with Caesar instead of his futile protest

Caesar said calmly

>>212964957
The senate wouldn't let Caesar exercise his right to re-seek his consulship abroad without first relinquishing his army and returning to Rome in person, where they would have subjected him to their kangaroo court. Everything Caesar did was justified. If you have any doubts, consider that his rival was literally named Pompey, which sounds like pompous, whereas Caesar conducted himself in everything with humility and magnanimity.

>nec in tot vulneribus, ut Antistius medicus existimabat, letale ullum repertum est, nisi quod secundo loco in pectore acceperat.

The only lethal wound was the one in his breast.

>tfw Caesar died of a broken heart

>>212962084 (OP)
They whacked him, they fucken whacked him

>>212969667
Romans committed suicide to avoid "pudor" which is a word for a very specific kind of public disgrace. It was an act done to save one's honor. Cato, Marc Antony, etc, all fell to pudor.

He didn't just "ack himself" in despair or anything. It was a very deliberate act once he believed (mistakenly in Cato's case) that the end was upon him.

>>212970262
>crowned himself CELESTIAL EMPEROR and founded the roman empire
Rome was so unapologetically based

>>212962966
That wasn't until much later and was done so that Agrippa's power still existed "within the family." All about enhancing the dynasty and protecting Augustus' heirs.

And the 7 foot tall giganiggas around Augustus were his private bodyguard, the German Guard, which was the predecessor of the Praetorian Guard.

>deinde clamantem: 'ista quidem vis est!'
>"This really is violence!"

Isn't this basically a Marvel quip on Caesar's part? Was the assassination of Caesar capeslop?

>>212970262
You should read more about the period.

Augustus went through great pains to avoid being seen as doing just what you're describing. He was a masterful politician. He secured autocracy in a very pragmatic way -- he fucking killed all of his enemies until there was no opposition left. And then, he played the humble man in the eyes of the people. He let the senate, all bought and paid for or in absolute terror of his power, heap honors upon him so that he could be seen to publicly and deliberately refuse them.

He even had to stop the Senate from appointing him consul so other men could have a turn. They tried to appoint him once against his will and he got very pissed about it even -- it became a bit of a problem, young men were avoided the "honors race" because they felt there was no point if the Julio-Claudians had already won out.

The only title he ever accepted in the way of an acknowledgment of his power was "princeps" which just meant "First Citizen". His deification was another thing "forced upon him" by the love of the people.
He was not so sloppy as to declare himself king or emperor -- he was on another level entirely.

>>212977592
Of course they used Germanic gigachads for security

How the FUCK isn’t there a movie about the sacking of Rome in 455? Why did producers put $300 million into a shitty Gladiator sequel that is already forgotten instead of telling the true story about a cunning senator manipulated his way into having Rome’s last great general killed by the emperor and then had the emperor killed because he raped his wife — then got Rome destroyed by the Vandals for marrying the emperor’s wife to cuck him from the grave and therefore break a treaty with the Vandal king. Now that’s true kino.

>>212966254
i love you anon

>>212970262
God damn Ridley Scott for Gladiator 2 and its portrayal of Caracalla. God damn that senile fuck.

>>212963064
He just used whatever was popular to gain power.

>>212977939
There could be so many Rome kinos it's not even funny.
>tfw no kino about Trajan redeeming Rome's reputation by shitting on the Dacians twice then dying on his way to fuck up the Parthians

>>212977539
Those goons. Those fuckin schmucks.

>>212977695
lmao

>>212962259
The idea was that it would just be a melee and even if only one of them actually delivered the killing stab no one would know who did it and have that guilt or suspicion.

must have been kinda awkward after that one guy stabbed him in the nuts
like bro we're just trying to kill the guy it aint like that

>>212977939
I wish the entire late Western Roman Empire period was more popular

>>212962084 (OP)
>Pizza Pizza