Thread 212968978

Goku is a better hero than Superman. At least he fights in empty spaces and tries his best to stay away from civilians.

>>212968978 (OP)
Go back to /a/

>>212969224
seethe

>>212968978 (OP)
If Hollywood can make a superman movie that it's at the very least entertaining, they can make a DB movie that doesn't suck.

>>212969337
Go back tranny.

>>212968978 (OP)
That's because Toriyama was lazy. You fell for it.

>>212968978 (OP)
Goku was a good enough hero that he was willing to die because he knew he was such a heat magnet while securing the safety of the earth by setting up a protector in his absence
Granted it didn't work because Mickeyhan is a bum but he tried

>>212968978 (OP)
Vegeta was a really chill guy for agreeing to this. He could have gone full schizo and start bombing cities instead like Zod.

>>212969557
He did try to blow up the planet later in the fight, he just wanted an uninterrupted fight just as much as Goku, civilians would get in the way.

>>212969513
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

>>212968978 (OP)
Death doesn’t matter in DBZ

>>212968978 (OP)
Goku isn't a hero at all , let alone a better hero than Superman

>>212968978 (OP)
>"Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys...I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him." ~ Akira Toriyama
Its why he did dumbass things like give Senzu beans to Cell

>>212969346
they should make a Superman comic that is at the very least entertaining. You never know if he's hurt because there's not a lot of blood and he's a demigod.

>>212969557
Saiyans have pride, unlike Kryptonians
That's also why King Vegeta didn't leave a message to his son and Nappa about endless rape

>>212968978 (OP)
>superman: let's fight somwhere empty
>zod: no

>>212968978 (OP)
I do prefer a gook character to a jew one, so the carrot cake wins this matchup in my eyes.

>>212969715
Because it matters so much in Superman comics right?

>>212968978 (OP)
how is superman supposed to ask a giant mindless monster to fight somewhere empty?

>>212969773
That's a bad example since he did that after fighting him, not before. And it wasn't a dumbass thing to do since he didn't want Cell to feel cornered and weak and to potentially destroy Earth (like he eventually did because Gohan fucked up) and he had full confidence and faith in his son even though no one else (including Piccolo) had (and he was completely correct).

>>212969773
and tried to spare FRIEZA of all people
>but i can save him!
give it a rest already Goku

>>212969892
>gook
Goku is a Chinese character (Son Wukong) written in Japanese media. "Gook" is a derogatory name used for Koreans, not Chinese or Japanese.

Goku is a hero but being a hero isn't the essence of his character, it comes secondary to his obsession with fighting

>>212968978 (OP)
This, capefags will deny and cry because it is true

>>212970046
Hey! Zod might've been dumb with murky motivations, but mindless is a bit too far, anon.

>>212970088
Fuck off kike

>>212970088
>noooo your racism must be precise!
>wdym they all look the same?

>>212970161
>>212970184
"Kike" is for Jews, "Jap" or "Nip" is for Japanese, "Chink" is for Chinese, "Jeet" is for Indian, "Gook" is for Koreans, etc.
Learn to insult correctly.

>>212970017
It doesn’t matter to Superman but to everyone else in the world if they die there’s no way to wish them back

>>212970197
shut up frogfaggot

>>212970197
Nigger

>>212970209
No, an alternate universe is created instead, and they get rebooted. No one's ever really gone.

>>212969629
They weren't moving away from civilians, they were already in the middle of nowhere. They were moving away from Goku's friends' dead bodies.

>>212970498
They had already moved away from civilians thanks to those dead friends initially moving the fight to a wilderness. Didn't stop civilians and military from showing up and getting totally destroyed by Nappa though.

>>212970272
That doesn’t happen every time there’s a threat. The dragon balls are a permanent reset button every time there’s a fight.

the difference is that in dc/marvel the bad guys are all about destruction. in dragon ball dudes just wanna have good fights to show off their strength in most cases. even perfect cell built that arena for them

>>212970585
It's worse than that. The dragonballs don't even matter anymore since Goku is good buddies with universal tier gods that can just rewind time if he asks nicely. Super was a mistake.

>>212970537
>>212970139
not entirely sure what these are trying to say. but i just want to note my appreciation for how each new dragon ball story after Z has been alternate branching stories. like a choose your own adventure. after Z you can choose to watch GT, or super, or daima. neither of the three are connected at all and i think thats fucking cool. i wish more series/movies/cartoon franchises would do this

Dragon Ball Z's dub and GT in general took Goku's character and matured it. The dub in general threw on some traditional christian morally upstanding details to Goku's character that make him more palatable to audiences. Because Toriyama was only ever in love with a monkeyman who only ever wanted to push himself. Every single time he was asked he put his foot down and insisted that Goku isn't a hero, he doesn't fight for the sake of others, that his primary motivation aside from not being killed is simply to test his limits. He lives to do that. Everyone surviving because of his single-minded altruism is more like a benefit. And everytime Goku in-series has a conversation about his character and his motivations it always wraps around back to that. The person who he's talking to tries to talk up Goku's exploits and accomplishments as the character has the reader's perspective.

Every. Single. Time. Akira Toriyama writes Goku outright denying herosim. He doesn't want to save. He isn't moved by that. So in essence? Toriyama essentially rejected Christ. Jesus Christ is out Lord and Savior. Thus every single protagonist takes from his greatest example of mercy and love: self sacrifice. Jesus gave his life for us. So lots and lots of fiction try to have their characters evoke the same feeling by going the distance for their loved ones through sacrificing the one thing they can't redeem: their life. Jesus is the hero of humanity. So to save others or want to save others you have have an identity of that. Toriyama toyed around with the gimmick of superherodom but he doesn't know what it's about or what it truly means to give your life for someone. He'll highlight it in his series but I think that's more because of the kamikaze fighter pilots that the Japanese love immortalizing. Like they have an outright lust for writing pilots flying to certain death.

Goku is no hero. Toriyama's magnum opus never glorified God. Or brought others to His glory. I think Akira is in hell.

>>212970210
4d cinema is getting kinda crazy, huh?

Aw schweet, a /dbs/ thread!

>>212970535
Gohan and Piccolo were just training in the same place in the wilderness they had been for the last year, the Saiyans went to them. The only time "Let's fight somewhere without people" actually happened in Dragon Ball was with Dr. Gero.

>>212970763
>Dragon Ball Z's dub and GT in general took Goku's character and matured it
They did it with other characters too, like Vegeta. In Super they reverted his character development from the end of the Buu Saga.

>>212970537
I think it's weird that as shitty as GT was, the one thing it didn't fuck up was Goku's character. He got turned into a kid but he was still more mature than in basically everything else Toei ever made.

>>212970687
How is a new villain supposed to be a threat if Bulma can offer Beerus some ice cream and he'll solve the problem for them? They shouldn't have introduced all of this shit in Super.

>>212971003
dont think it matters much. super is done. if gt and daima is anything to go by theyll continue making separate branching stories that take place right after Z. its a good way to rinse the power levels and start again with a different theme. we'll probably see a different version of ultra instinct in a new story

>>212970956
You are correct, I misremembered. Still the Z Fighters didn't stop Nappa from fucking up news crews. Unless I am mistaken and that was anime filler.

>>212970959
I honestly feel like God had to do that because entirely too many children were idolizing Vegeta. He was brutal, ruthless and killed innocents without mercy. Then he jobbed, became an early parent and was absolutely abysmal as a father until growing into it, had a mid-life crisis of whether he was truly enjoying his repentant existence or yearning for something more. Babadi is like the mark of Satan. Vegeta took his drug filled chance to be laced with power--and it was a crappy deal. Vegeta at SSJ2 was stronger than Gohan but it was the Majin boost that allowed him to equal Goku. And Goku still had SSJ3 up his sleeve. Taking the Majin mark is literally like a deal with the devil. Vegeta wanted "more power" and to "return to the way he was before" only to see that he didn't have the power to carry himself past Buu and that he was given a cheap victory by his rival meaning he sold himself out for nothing. Were it not for Dragon Balls then Vegeta would be the ultimate story of humanity trying and failing to redeem itself. Goku on his own is a trash character. But if you see him as a Jesus-figure to Vegeta's sinful desperation of wanting to do things on his own and be recognized for his own strengths, aside from God, as many sinners do, well, it stands to reason why Vegeta had to absolutely be humbled into the ground.

Super and GT writes a narrative that Vegeta mellows out so much that the Earth is his home and he's a dedicated good guy and an active father and husband as opposed to Goku whom Toriyama insisted could and should only ever be a fighting monkeyman. I truly feel like Vegeta having the best redemption arc and humbling himself is the true story of Dragonball. Goku on his own can't carry anything but hype moments brought on by his own stupidity. Toriyama goes full force with this in Super where he doesn't have editorial of christian morals to paint over his perception of his character. Super Goku is how Toriyama saw Goku: an unrepentant idiot.

>>212971003
And Whis rewound time when Frieza won

>>212971003
>>212970687
Its my own headcannon Toriyama was going to have Black Frieza wipe out the gods and and super dragonballs so there were actual stakes for the end of Super. That was what the series seemed to about anyways, there's always someone stronger and that's one of the few things left that could actually make things interesting or intense. Goku and Frieza have a real rematch with all the universes on line and everyone else dead.

>>212970959
>In Super they reverted his character development from the end of the Buu Saga.
He has moments exactly like the one in your picture in Super.
People keep misunderstanding the Buu speech. He's showing respect for Goku and finally realizes why Goku is above him, but he never makes it sound like he think he's permanently Goku's inferior and he should drop the rivalry.

>>212971150
Would Black Freeza really be more powerful than Ultra Instinct Ego Gogeta? The fusion multiplier is absurd, Broly (that completely destroyed Golden Freeza) couldn't land a single hit on Blue Gogeta.

>>212971138
How do they even excuse this? Whis isn't supposed to intervene with anything and him even training Goku and Vegeta was pushing the limits of what he was allowed to do.

This is what happens when you put a fanfiction writer in charge of your sequel

>>212971083
>its a good way to rinse the power levels
No, anon. It isn't. Wanna know why? Because Dragon Ball is done. Toriyama has passed. Why continue to put thought into the nonsensical series of a man who regularly forgot the content he made? No, power levels don't need to go "up" because if you're not a Saiyan or a Namekian then there's no reason to be caught up
>Oh wow I wonder who's gonna win! How will they stack the odds?!

The other's stall. Goku gets there comedically late because it's the gimmick Toriyama loves. Goku isn't a hero so why would he ever be on time? He's just there for a fight. Doesn't matter WHEN he gets there. Only that once Goku arrives the battle completely changes dimensions and he's the only that can hang in that kind of environment because at that moment he's doing what he loves. Goku is truly alive. Even if he's just punches and kicks away from death. It's like playing a video game or like sex for him. The fun factor overrides all fear.

But that's all there ever is. Goku does this time and time and time and time and time again. Only recently through Super does Goku have 0 victories. Every single win on a villain he had to rely on heavily on the support of something or someone else. He killed Golden Frieza--and that was after his do-over. Because he doesn't take things seriously. Ever.

I think the story of Goku is over. Anyone else who takes over for writing will only ever keep him the same bubble he can never grow from.

>>212968978 (OP)
>>>/a/

>>212971230
>but could Gohan Blanco 3000 Max and Yellow Chin Piccolo Rerecorded beat Ultra Ego Bluegreen Broly on whippets

>>212971230
Frieza would kill one before fusion, or Goku and Vegeta do it Buu style and Vegeta goes first and dies. Frieza probably would one shot Broly like he did Krillin or Dende after what happened. I dont think Toriyama would've used fusion to save the last day.

>>212971306
cringe post

>>212970696
It's words and literal images but you can't understand what it's conveying? Goku isn't serious in super. You can argue whether that's good or bad but the difference is jarring.

>>212971357
Akira Toriyama's last words were to make Gohan (Blanco) part of canonical lore and to claim that he's the most powerful character in the franchise.

I'm bleeding, making me the victor

>>212971003
>How is a new villain supposed to be a threat if Bulma can offer Beerus some ice cream and he'll solve the problem for them?
Because that never happens. The first time Beerus interferes it's because he wasn't done with Earth yet, he never has this attitude again. The second time he interferes it's because Goku fucked up big time and the universe is about to take severe damage, but he ends up leaving and doing nothing because he got called by the Grand Priest.

>>212971425
lmao
>son, come close, there's one last thing I need to say to you...
>Gohan Blanco could beat Silver Age Superboy
>goodbye

>>212971490
I shit on Super's writing but I will admit that turning Vegeta into Wimp Lo is the best possible resolution for his character

>>212971263
eh, Goku said please

>dragonball sucks
yeah, it's for children

>>212968978 (OP)
Goku is not a hero, he's just a martial artist and aims to become the strongest warrior on the planet.

>>212971420
goku is serious and silly in every iteration though

>>212971503
Him being ready to intervene vs Moro was absurd and he should never have gotten off his ass in that arc.

>>212968978 (OP)
Maybe just Saiyan saga. After this he doesn't care if Freeza rapes his wife to death since they have dragon balls

>>212971531
no its not. watch daima. peak vegeta

>>212970993
He actually acts more like that in Daima. King Kadan tried to offer Panzy's hand in marriage, but Goku was like "nah, I got a wife and kids".

>>212971670
Wasn't Princess Snake filler?

yeah, almost any shounen mogs capeshit. It's amazing how boring and dumb most capeshit characters are, yet we continue wasting so much money on them

>>212971705
Yes.

>>212971569
>Goku is not a hero
neither is Superman. All he does is laser people and get kicked in the balls and mauled by dogs.

>>212971732
See, that's what I like about their marriage. He only married her for food, but he eventually grew to love her.

>>212968978 (OP)
why is there this common lack of comprehension regarding Man of Steel? it isn't complicated at all. the movie very blatantly illustrates that Zod and the Kryptonians are trying to demolish humans, he could not simply tell them to fight somewhere empty.

>>212971949
i have to protect gotens good name by making sure people who watch this webm know that goten is being controlled by an evil alien entity in this scene

>>212971898
He could have asked nicely, but Murderman never even tried.

>>212971949
>all that to make a dinky crater
remember when Nappa razed an entire city with 2 fingers?

>>212971531
>>212971618
https://youtu.be/KoQyg76y_ak?si=IxawDRuQIamunBGI

>>212972149
Is this the power of boomer comedy?

>>212972079
He was being mind controlled by a guy who hates Saiyans.

>>212969424
anime website, gtfo tourist

>>212971740
I know you're trolling, but hear me out: Toriyama himself said Goku is not a hero. and you can come to this conclusion by seeing what motivates his actions. It's exciting for him to fight these strong guys. He let Bejita walk after everything he had done just to fight him again.

>>212968978 (OP)
He blew up the moon. That alone killed far more people than even evil superman

>>212970197
they used to call the Vietnamese gooks too during the war

>>212968978 (OP)
>Goku
>hero

>>212969224
Sneedime website

>>212970139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwkOqZ7WEo0

>>212972322
Toriyama also said Goku's Yugioh deck would be HEROs so kind of a conflicting message.

>>212972371
to be fair goku would find a way to beat 100% powered up sauron though

>>212972371
>most retarded thing i ever heard
ok Mr. Grand Elf

>>212968978 (OP)
If the goal of early Vegita and my boi Nappa coming to Earth at the behest of Frieza was to conquer and subjugate the planet, then why would Vegita agree to fight in an empty desert in the first place? Why would he care? Given his cocky and cruel early personality and the fact that he'd genocided previous civilizations without giving a shit at all and even laughing about it, wouldn't it have been more in character for Vegita at that point, to be spiteful and fuck up some city just because Goku wouldn't like it?

>>212972524
saiyans love to fight. despite whatever attitude vegeta had earlier he finally met someone who would be worthy of fighting. thats all it takes.

>>212972524
He fucked around on that bug planet for a while and tortured Namekians for fun. He was always a cat playing with his food.

>>212971263
I think Grand Zeno just doesn't give a shit

>>212972524
You can't even remember the basic plot.

>>212968978 (OP)
Superman is a jewish power fantasy, Goku is the Monkey King, its an easy choice.

>>212972458
He would need help from others, but would get excited if Gandalf said something like "The Dark Lord can still return, as long as there is evil in the hearts of man" because then he'd be able to have a rematch and do it solo

>>212972458
Goku could beat anyone by Instant Transmission to the afterlife, but he never does.

>>212973514
To what end? If you mean taking the opponent there, they'd be alive in the afterlife. It didn't even take Cell long to get back from King Kai's planet

>>212973563
Cell copied IT due to his copycat gene. He couldn't have escaped without that. Sauron would be stuck there and stuffed in a desk drawer by Yenma.

>>212968978 (OP)
Akira Toriyama actually considered this a mistake since it diminished the stakrd and villains. Every upcoming villain after this would slaughter everything so Goku could look more heroic.

>>212973672
>Sauron would be stuck there and stuffed in a desk drawer by Yenma.
Would more likely just end up like Fusion Reborn

vegeta was so cocky and so much stronger than goku he didn't give a shit about his requests. he was just toying with him

if you're retarded or didnt watch the show basically vegeta crushes goku's bones and laughs and goku's friends come up with some clever sneak attacks to finish him. goku charges the spirit bomb but krillin misses and just somehow gohan hits vegeta with it. even after tanking the spirit bomb vegeta can power up and fly. he was leagues above goku

>>212970139
I do miss serious Goku. He's just been getting stupider and more childish in Super.
I miss when he had tactics and plans like with Cell.

>>212973918
Vegeta's Oozaru form put him on par with the Ginyu Force minus the gimmicks. It's why Frieza was afraid of them.

>>212974132
>tactics
>plan
>give Cell senzu bean
>throws Gohan the deep end with no floaties
>doesn't have future medicine on him despite warning from Future Trunks
Goku was a dumbass in that saga. He was the most serious on Namek and that was it. There are moments in the Buu saga he actually seems where he should be. Hell, its in line with his character not to finish off fat buu and let his kids have a go.

>>212974305
>doesn't have future medicine on him despite warning from Future Trunks
Not that it's a great reason, but wasn't it supposed to happen much sooner in the timeline? Probably thought the extra training made him healthy enough to not catch it this timeline around

>>212974305
>give Cell senzu bean
Perfect plan
>throws Gohan the deep end with no floaties
I agree, a heads up would have been better.
>doesn't have future medicine on him despite warning from Future Trunks
Because the illness didn't occur when Trunks said it would. Was he meant to carry it around with him 24/7 for the rest of his life?

>>212974552
>Was he meant to carry it around with him 24/7 for the rest of his life?
I dunno, what part of
>There is no cure and it will kill you and doom the Earth
do you not understand?

>>212974520
>>212974552
The training excuse makes sense but it was just a capsule. He could've carried it. Future Trunks' whole shtick is telling everyone what's going to happen and them being completely retards about it is what I mostly remember from that saga, culminating in him being killed by Cell due to everyone's stupidity, including his own.

A Superman vs. Goku trilogy is the only way forward.
They beat the shit out of each other until Popeye the Sailor whips both of their fucking asses and then the tird movie has an even bigger threat show up and the three team up to take it on.

>>212974786
Shhhh anon quiet. You'll attract all the coloreds with that talk.

>>212968978 (OP)
Goku isn't a hero. He's a brain-damaged battle-obsessed autist.
Multiple times he gave his foes another chance, endangering the lives of those around him, in order to have more fun fighting.

>>212974859
What is it about Goku and anime that makes blacks so giddy? Like man, do they ever love seeing Jackie Chan martial arts so much, they gave him the N-word pass and he not only said it in that movie, he said it twice and then beat the shit out of everyone in the bar with a pool cue.
I swear one time, at Halloween, a whole group of kids were out trick or treating and the black kid in the group was the only one doing the Naruto-run down the block.

>>212974634
>random kid rocks up out of nowhere, says he is from the future with no proof
>says you will die from a disease
>it doesn't happen when he says it would happen
What credibility does he have left?

>>212968978 (OP)
How ironic that recent developments in Dragonball make Goku more like Superman, being sent off world by parents who apparently loved him all along before their planet died. A complete retcon of the Bardock story from decades earlier. Meanwhile the latest iteration of Jor-El wanted Superman to pillage and conquer, much like a Saiyan.

Superman Goku is real, whatever Toriyama's intentions.

>>212974986
Well, he looks cool in his half jacket. And he saved everyone from Frieza. And knows what color Bulma's panties are. I'd believe him.

>>212970088
So are ya Chinese or Japanese?

>>212974986
The proof was that he could turn into a Super Saiyan and he gained everyone's trust by killing Freeza

>>212971732
DELETE THIS

>>212968978 (OP)
this is because drawing cities and crowds is too difficult for a Japanese mangaka like Toriyama. a real villain would use a crowded location to his advantage.

>>212970088
I was watching full metal jacket and they called the Vietnamese gooks and zipper heads

>>212968978 (OP)
The edit where they go to a theatre with "birds of prey"

>>212969773
Death of the author. It’s retarded to weaken dbz villains and kill them when they often come back, the only way to stop them is by beating them at full power so their ego is too bruised and they’re scared to come back

>>212975247
>Well, he looks cool in his half jacket.
>And knows what color Bulma's panties are
True, I'd believe him too.

>>212975295
That doesn't mean he knows the future lol, especially after he was proven wrong, what else are they meant to believe.

>>212969773
revisionism from years after he stopped caring. Goku swore personal vengeance on King Piccolo specifically because of the bad things he did, he explicitly said he was both afraid of and unwilling to fight Raditz and only did so to protect Gohan, and he directly told Frieza that he would avenge the saiyans Frieza killed in cold blood.

>>212972149
>Daima was actually just one long setup to humiliate Vegeta
kek

>>212972524
he didn't go there on Frieza's orders. in fact he went there specifically to try and undermine Frieza. his goal originally was to get the dragon balls and wish for immortality, which he was denied after Piccolo died. he learnt the dragon balls were tied to the namekians, and was fully prepared to leave earth after killing the Z fighters until the promise of Goku being super strong incentivised him to stay and wait (saiyan fightlust). He then proceeds to have a melty when Goku beats his arse and tries to nuke Earth to hide the shame.

>>212971003
Who even cares when it's established the afterlife is a real place and characters can bounce in and out of it at will.

>>212968978 (OP)
He is better hero because he knows how to fight...Superman is just "hmm I'm a strong dude"

>>212974305
the whole of the Androids Saga is just Toriyama learning why writing by the seat of your pants doesn't always work. kept writing himself into corners and having to come up with contrivances to justify the illogical and lorebreaking stuff he kept putting in.

>but heckin based tranime
>but it's a le heckin tranime website
>but x with my favorite le heckin tranime
and you retarded creeps have no clue why everyone dislikes you. you don't even like yourselves which is why you aren't dicussing your le heckin based tranime on /a/

>>212974911
DBZ is all about hypermasculinity, and you don't have to think too hard about it to get it.
their love for kung fu movies is because Bruce Lee wasn't white, so they could identify with him as a fellow minority.

>>212975843
On top of his editors "wraggling" him with the androids. I like all the sagas but its clear Cell was all over the place.
>>212975646
I laugh whenever I think about it lol. He really died making vegeta #2 and the true clown.

>>212975490
There are many reasons why they should believe Trunks. They just act like fools the whole time. Even Bulma suggests taking out Gero with the dragonballs but no one wants to do that because its too easy and the guy hadn't done anything wrong yet, which is stupid considering what Trunks risked his life and timeline for.

>>212976066
>There are many reasons why they should believe Trunks.
Getting his predictions wrong is not a good start on that front.

>>212976066
its doubly stupid because Gero HAS done bad stuff by that point. For one, he was a member of the Red Ribbon army, and had an explicit vendetta against Goku that he was hurting innocent people to pursue.

>>212976066
They didnt even have to kill him. Just have the dragon lobotomize him instead. Or make Goku immune to disease. Or both. Hell, they had 3 years.

>>212975137
There's no shot they pulled this. Bardock didn't give a fuck about his sons and only tried to fight Frieza because he didn't want that sweet spacemonkey putang to disappear. That's what made him cool.

>>212974258
I'm surprised that Freeza let the saiyans keep their tails, knowing that power. Raditz and maybe Nappa could be beaten, but Vegeta retains his consciousness and wasn't a standing target either. One thing that pissed me off about Sparking Zero was that it did nothing with what-ifs. The bare minimum that you'd find in an average Dragon Ball game. One what-if could have been if Vegeta's tail regenerated when he healed up and used the Oozaru against the Ginyu Force. He could have had a moment where he did some damage to Ginyu, but ends up losing his tail and then he gets body-swapped by Ginyu.

I'm glad I waited to see if Zero was worth buying, and it wasn't. The DLC sucked too.

>>212976826
The only good and semi-fleshed out what if was the one where Goku goes Super Saiyan on earth against Vegeta. I would love to see that get a manga adaptation or something