>dull normie NPC reviewer has all the answers!

>they're comple...
i don't get it
is it in french?

I like the Drinker

Just watched it. He's not wrong.

literally who?

>>212972158
Is it
>THE MESSAGE *reverb*
Riveting.

>>212972084 (OP)
I ain’t giving this unfunny grifter my clicks

>>212972084 (OP)
>Drinkike filtered by Big Jim

>>212972084 (OP)
buy an ad

>>212972084 (OP)
>this is the retard that said James Gunns Superman isnt woke

>>212972185
He didn't even mention THE MESSAGE. It was more about how culture has stagnated the last 15 years and how nothing new is created. No movies with memorable lines or characters being the main thing. Just remakes of old movies and pop songs.

>>212972257
All food vendors are her heros

>you can't enjoy Superman!
>It was MID!
>Send me superchats!
(canned applause)
>Buy my book!
(9 people talking over each other to say something basic)

>>212972185
Oh, so you are one of those who hate things without watching them, cool

>>212972084 (OP)
his own movie short crowdfunder was absolute dog shit and he blamed the female actress girlboss for it being bad. was pretty funny.

>>212972084 (OP)
why don't they just watch old movies or do something else?

>>212972280
>how nothing new is created
Because of
>THE MESSAGE reverb
It really doesn't matter, this nigger is such a midwit retard it's not even funny. Of course, in his view, nothing was created. He is not watching anything but shit to dunk on. Any attempt to talk about anything out his narrow comfort zone of capeshit and franchises results in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P48-nYPVIxE

>>212972084 (OP)
he complains about the same thing all the time. the only thing that changes is whatever movie or tv show he wants to apply it to

>>212972357
Do I have to watch every single Nostalgia Critic review to assess Doug's taste? No. Same here. Are you actually going to pretend his taste in anyway evolved? Lol Lmao.

So why does he only ever talk about American blockbuster films?

>>212972424
>youth gravitating towards japanese media
I like how everyone in that circle has the same talking points at the same time

>>212972084 (OP)
>gives you the most surface level opinion that is down to the core safe amongst centre of right twitter
I can’t believe people can watch this shit

>>212972424
>>how nothing new is created
>Because of
>>THE MESSAGE reverb
Again, he doesn't even mention THE MESSAGE you fucking retard. This vid was more about remakes and reboots.

Drinker is a poser. He liked Superman and that is slop in the highest percentile. Dude needs to get better taste.

>>212972084 (OP)
What seems to be the problem this time, my marxist friend?

>>212972084 (OP)
He talks about a bunch of shit thats 50/50 truth and bias. Bias from him being an old fuck. Then he never brings up the underlying reasons why the problems exists or ways to fix them. Literally a grifter

>critical drinker
more like
>surface level grifter

>>212972687
>Bias from him being an old fuck.
What bias is that?
>or ways to fix them.
Make original things that aren't woke trash.

He’s the Chris Stuckmann of the right

>>212972424
>I am wrong with what I said in my firsr so I must doubling down and move goalposts
Cringe
Note: no mention of the message

>>212972649
>This vid was more about remakes and reboots.
The dumb shit a midwit like him watches. Yes.
While juxtaposing it against the most basic lineup from IMDB's top 250, because those are hecking "good movies" from a better time and better culture.
Why are the supposed current films and culture not up to par according to a retarded midwit like him?
>THE MESSAGE reverb
See, I don't even have to watch it. Are you going to pretend that this isn't the video?

>>212972866
>The dumb shit a midwit like him watches. Yes.
His vids aren't about what he watches, retard. It's about what the American viewer is watching. Holy fuck.
>While juxtaposing it against the most basic lineup from IMDB's top 250, because those are hecking "good movies" from a better time and better culture.
This is a true statement.
>Why are the supposed current films and culture not up to par according to a retarded midwit like him?
He says why
>too many remake and reboots
In the 90s if they made 100 new movies in a year, 1 of them might be memorable or have a great line or character. Now they make 70 reboots/remakes and 30 new movies so the odds of something memorable being created is very low.
>See, I don't even have to watch it. Are you going to pretend that this isn't the video?
Again, it was about culture, reboots and remakes.

>>212972823
He goes into how there's no cultural look and shit since the 90s which is bullshit. The 2000s and 2010s had a look and 2020s will also. In 30 years time there will be 2020s nostalgia. The problem isn't just muh woke it goes deeper than that, streaming services, theaters, etc.

>>212972084 (OP)
I love that clip. Critical Drinker is a fucking cultural void. He made a video 6 years ago saying he was done with Marvel movies. Well he hasn't stopped watching them, has he? The Last Jedi complaining turned into Brie Larson complaining which has now given way to Rachel Zegler complaining. Everything is bad, nothing is new, only he doesn't watch enough other films, he just watches Disney films to get mad over.

Watching people complain about slop has replaced people actually exploring entertainment. The problem isn't, nothing good is being made, the problem is: the quantity of stuff being produced is so vast that it is very difficult to find the good stuff and the people who usually curate the good stuff have devolved into just being complainers which has become entertainment in and of itself.

Saying you like something online is like circling the wagons and going on the defensive so you stick to the same worn narratives never venturing out of what the complainers like or hate, you just feed them the same culture war narratives they expect. This shit is exhausting because you can't argue with these people, they are nostalgic for the films they like, the films they like are never "political" but the films they hate are, they barely watch anything other than stuff to complain about. They complain about big blockbusters but think any non blockbuster film with something to say is pretentious drama/drivel at best or just woke. They just want a thin slither of films they enjoyed when they were younger and are nostalgic for.

>>212972978
Meant to reply to: >>212972424

>>212972974
>He goes into how there's no cultural look and shit since the 90s which is bullshit.
He's not wrong.
>. The 2000s and 2010s had a look and 2020s will also.
He said in this vid that this stopped in the early 2010s. Kids today wear baggy clothes like it's the 90s. If it wasn't for the smartphone in everyone's hand it would be hard to tell the difference.
> The problem isn't just muh woke it goes deeper than that, streaming services, theaters, etc.
The problem (according to the vid) is reboots and remakes.

I prefer picrel. Idk how he does it, but he makes /tv/ woketards seethe uncontrollably.

The best part? He still has a job and Colbert doesn't! Muahaha!!!

>>212973044
>kids today
Outed as an old fuck. No matter how much they try to imitate it won't be the same and in that difference will be remembered differently

>>212973044
haha oh i get it he's middle aged and he's out of touch but he drinks lol cool character.

>>212972978
>the quantity of stuff being produced is so vast that it is very difficult to find the good stuff and the people who usually curate the good stuff have devolved into just being complainers which has become entertainment in and of itself.
You're fucking retarded. Most shit is either woke, a remake, or more capeshit. Movies from the 80s and 90s wouldn't get made today. There are no more fucking comedies because it would offend someone. Action movies are just quippy nonsense loaded with ugly CGI. Every female character has to be a girlboss or the smartest person in the room.
>e. They just want a thin slither of films they enjoyed when they were younger and are nostalgic for.
Then go watch the stuff you enjoyed then. I love Transformers G1 but have the Bay movies and other shows. I'm not crying for some G1 remake. I just re-watch G1.

>>212973090
>Outed as an old fuck.
Oh wow, you got me.
>No matter how much they try to imitate it won't be the same and in that difference will be remembered differently
You're right, it will be remembered worse. Same with reboots/remakes of movies.

>>212972961
>It's about what the American viewer is watching
Is he somehow not a member of the public, which is clearly reflected in his viewing habits?
>This is a true statement.
That he is a retarded midwit who never seen anything outside the most basic movie line up? Great critic, I guess.
>He says why
Yeah, The message. There might not have been a reverb but whatever derivative tripe he said there is clearly uninspired handwaving of movies
>Now they make 70 reboots/remakes and 30 new movies so the odds of something memorable being created is very low
I know you are Critical nigger fan so you are okay with pulling absolutely imaginary numbers from out of your ass for the sake of sounding smart, but you might want to actually google these silly statements before typing them out.

I mean he's not wrong

Most of the highest grossing movies of the past years and even of this year have already been memory holed. It doesn't feel like cinema cares about making any impact or last legacy, it just wants a quick buck before shitting out another sequel or remake

>>212973092
>oh i get it he's middle aged and he's out of touch
What is "in touch"? Happily cheering for more reboots and remakes?

>>212973149
>it will be remembered worse
They said the same about the 2000s and now nostalgia culture is jerking it off. Get with the times

No, I'm right and everyone else is wrong.

>>212973157
>Is he somehow not a member of the public, which is clearly reflected in his viewing habits?
His channel is about a broad critique of what is being made and consumed. Him talking about some obscure film that him and 6 other people liked won't change anything.
>That he is a retarded midwit who never seen anything outside the most basic movie line up? Great critic, I guess.
What new movies have come out that have been great? Name a few.
>Yeah, The message.
This is your last (you). The vid was about remakes and you keep doubling down on this.
>I know you are Critical nigger fan so you are okay with pulling absolutely imaginary numbers from out of your ass for the sake of sounding smart, but you might want to actually google these silly statements before typing them out.
The amount of reboots/remakes being done today is astronomical compared to the 30 years ago. And it's not just movies. It's video games, music, tv shows. New Harry Potter tv show reboot? CHECK

>>212973204
>They said the same about the 2000s
Literally no one said this. 2000s was still running on 90s fumes had you had kino movies and tv shows. Fuck Spider-Man 1 & 2 destroy any capeshit that came after it.
>Get with the times
Yeah, Harry Potter tv reboot.... Another Superman reboot....another Fantastic Four reboot...

>>212973171
>Most of the highest grossing movies of the past years and even of this year have already been memory holed. It doesn't feel like cinema cares about making any impact or last legacy, it just wants a quick buck before shitting out another sequel or remake
Zoomers hate the fact that the stuff that came before is better than the stuff they have now.

>>212972084 (OP)
I'm enough of a sucker to let this drive me to his channel and praise his glorious humor.

>>212972257
>Thank you for murdering a brown man on film
Holy based

>>212973126
>Most shit is either woke, a remake, or more capeshit
Culture is more than just the same few Disney movies.
>Movies from the 80s and 90s wouldn't get made today.
People decry the woke capeshit/blockbusters but never move past them. If one of the successful 90s big drama movies came out today people like Drinker would call it boring.
>Then go watch the stuff you enjoyed then.
I was saying "they" as in Drinker and others are consumed by their nostalgia. I do watch things new and old and I am encouraging other people to actually do the same and be defined more by what they enjoy. I understand the true issue is that it is really hard to find things to enjoy because culture is pulling you in different directions. It isn't: this movie vs that movie; it is: this movie vs that streaming show vs that game vs that podcast etc. And people so easily fall into specific narratives they can't escape from.

Rather than getting angry at me and calling me a retard, why don't you actually go out of your comfort zone to watch and try a bunch of new things without letting your preconceived culture wars narrative become all encompassing and destroy your ability to watch something else. Why don't you engage in a discussion without being so damn angry.

I have a cinema subscription card. I pay a fee every month and see as many films as I like. I watch drama, horror, old and new films. I give things a chance and a benefit of the doubt and realise that there is far more things coming out than people realise from a variety of sources. Just give it a go sometime, try some new things, it won't kill you.

>>212973395
>Culture is more than just the same few Disney movies.
He's a media critic. Movies are huge part of media. You are literally complaining about him doing what his channel was made for.
>People decry the woke capeshit/blockbusters but never move past them.
How can they move past them when they keep getting made and keep making money. And nobody is decrying blockbusters. They are againt remakes of old blockbusters.
> If one of the successful 90s big drama movies came out today people like Drinker would call it boring.
So this is your argument "He grew up loving 90s movies but would hate them now"? Fucking retard.
>Rather than getting angry at me and calling me a retard, why don't you actually go out of your comfort zone to watch and try a bunch of new things
When did I ever give you an indication of what I'm watching or not watching, retard. This thread is about this particular Drinker video and he is correct. Endless reboots and remakes have put a halt on new and memorable things. Oh, but I'm sure another Quantum Leap reboot will do the trick....
> new films
Tell me your favorite new films.

>>212973223
>What new movies have come out that have been great? Name a few.
NTA, but let us say he does name a bunch of films, films you have most likely not seen, what is stopping you from just declaring them all woke? That's literally what happens in these conversations. You're not going to go away and watch a bunch of movies and come back in a few days and try to find some random anon again, you're gonna watch a trailer, see something you don't like and call it woke. Which is ironically something Critical Drinker has done a bunch, review something via the trailer and get it completely wrong. Do you not see how pointless these conversations are. Nothing anyone says will ever make you change your point of view, you'll just double down.

>>212973223
>broad critique
You mean culture war grifting. I'm glad you are at least aware of that.
>Name a few
Holdovers
Annette
Banshees of Inisherin
Hand of God
The Dig
Anatomy of the Fall
Tick, tick BOOM!
Society of the Snow
Still Tomorrow
So Long My Son
>This is your last (you).
But not the last time Critikal midwit is going to talk about THE MESSAGE *reverb* and you are going to pretend he isn't
>And it's not just movies.
No, you stupid fucking retard I told you to google before trying to sound smart, there are geometrically more movies every decade. There will be a more reboots because there are more movies and just because you and your nigger retard culture warrior are not watching them it doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>212973500
>what is stopping you from just declaring them all woke?
If I have seen them and think they are woke, I will say as much. If I don't think they are, I will say as much.
>Do you not see how pointless these conversations are.
Then why are you here?
> Nothing anyone says will ever make you change your point of view, you'll just double down.
Not true. But you sound like a retard that will never accept that something is woke. Most fans of nuTrek don't think it's woke, but holy fuck is it woke.

>>212973223
>Him talking about some obscure film that him and 6 other people liked
Also the fact that you are even pretending this midwit is watching anything but the most FOTM tripe is hilarious.

>>212972185
>>THE MESSAGE
>>212972280
>THE MESSAGE
>>212972424
>THE MESSAGE
>>212972649
>THE MESSAGE
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under.

>>212973525
>Holdovers
Great movie.
>Banshees of Inisherin
Another good one.
I didn't see the rest, but your list is like 10 films over a 5 year period (there must have been over 100 remakes in that time frame). You don't understand the argument.
>But not the last time Critikal midwit is going to talk about THE MESSAGE *reverb* and you are going to pretend he isn't
When did I ever say that. I said THIS VID wasn't about the MESSAGE. Fucking faggot.
> there are geometrically more movies every decade.
Of course. People make movies with their fucking iphones. How many of them get anywhere near a movie theater or streaming service? I legit can't believe how retarded you are. You are trying to DOWNPLAY the huge amounts of reboots/remakes and the effects they've had on media and culture. Kys faggot.
> are not watching them it doesn't mean they don't exist.
Almost no one is watching them. That's the point. They aren't culture. They are being made, but they aren't breaking through. How can they went the 3rd Fantastic Four iteration is being pushed all over the place. You. Don't. Get. It.

>>212973584
>Also the fact that you are even pretending this midwit is watching anything but the most FOTM tripe is hilarious.
Zoomers are totally fucked in the head.
>"This guy only watches trash"
>"I am a real film connoisseur"

>>212973476
>He's a media critic.
He isn't a media critic, he is a culture wars commentator who takes a narrative on how culture is (in his opinion) and applies it to things. He doesn't challenge this narrative, he simply finds mainstream things that fits his narrative. This is selection bias. He could find different things to watch and recommend and in doing so this might mean different things become popular which in turn would create better trends.
>How can they move past them when they keep getting made and keep making money.
But I thought they were all flopping? Love and hate are closely related. For all the complaints about superhero films, a lot of these people are looking for any old excuse to like them again (like Deadpool and Wolverine making a bunch of money).
>So this is your argument "He grew up loving 90s movies but would hate them now"?
That was not my point at all. A lot of big films in the 90s are drama films but Drinker doesn't engage with drama films and calls them boring/pretentious. Drinker claims to want variety in movies but never seems to engage with a variety of movies, he complains about the same few films.
>When did I ever give you an indication of what I'm watching or not watching
Because you claim that everything is woke, remake or capeshit. Because you don't want to engage with anything beyond that. What have you been watching?
>Endless reboots and remakes have put a halt on new and memorable things.
Because the ironic thing is that people like Critical Drinker are literally part of the problem because they would like all these remakes/reboots if they weren't woke. They are literally the market for all that stuff but turned off via the politics.
>Tell me your favorite new films.
Favourite is a loaded word. All I am saying is I have watched a bunch of stuff and enjoyed (or disliked) stuff to various degrees. I'm looking forward to seeing a bunch of movies next month (lot of horror stuff coming out I'm willing to give a shot).

>>212973090

It'll be remembered as an era of imitation, recycling and cultural stagnation. A low-point right before the advent of new technology (AI, VR etc.) that will usher in the truly "new" cultural era (or destruction of culture as we know it).

>>212972280
>It was more about how culture has stagnated the last 15 years and how nothing new is created
That nigga only watches popslop and expects the classics of tomorrow will just be among them, huh?

>>212973542
>But you sound like a retard that will never accept that something is woke.
It depends on what your definition of woke is. Critical Drinker said Prey was "woke" based on the trailer but then a lot of his audience liked Prey. She wasn't a girl boss, was shown to be weaker than the men, had to train and use tools to overcome the situation. He made an assumption but quite a few people ended up liking that movie. Some people call something woke just because of a minority character. But I have heard people use that term so much that it has become meaningless.

I don't like nuTrek. Star Trek Discovery? Yeah I'd call that woke, the overblown dialogue especially in how it interacts with those characters.

>>212972280
>No movies with memorable lines or characters being the main thing
Like what? Schwarzenegger or Stallone in a costume? Shitty quips?

>>212972280
>culture has stagnated
People have been saying this for literally a fucking century. In many ways stuff changes, in many ways stuff stays the same.

>>212973808
>That nigga only watches popslop and expects the classics of tomorrow will just be among them, huh?
What the vid. Everything he named was from popslop. Quotes and characters from Rocky, Star Wars, Terminator, etc. Again, you don't understand the argument. He's not talking about arthouse films, or cuttting edge subversive literature, or operas. He talks about mainstream films and how their reboots have affected the culture of films. Holy fuck,.

>>212973804
Culture as we know it has been getting destroyed since the internet

>>212973796
>Because the ironic thing is that people like Critical Drinker are literally part of the problem because they would like all these remakes/reboots if they weren't woke
This is what gets me about all this nerd shit, the people crying about it just want to like it again and they are part of the reason remakes get made because they just want to see that shit again and again Nerd culture/fandom is consumerist as fuck.

>>212973922
>He's not talking about arthouse films,
Why do people like you think cinema is popslop or arthouse films and nothing inbetween.

>>212972084 (OP)
>normie
Well to be fair, the faggot does have a shitty book series for male wish-fulfillment fantasies. He probably does know a thing or two about plot structure and characterization.

>>212973796
>He isn't a media critic, he is a culture wars commentator
Same fucking shit.
>But I thought they were all flopping?
Who said that? I never did and neither did he. I'm sure the new Harry Potter show will makes loads of cash. All those Disney live action remakes made a lot of money. The new Fantastic Four will probably make more than the first 2 combined.
> For all the complaints about superhero films, a lot of these people are looking for any old excuse to like them again (like Deadpool and Wolverine making a bunch of money).
Deadpool and Wolverine wasn't a reboot or a remake. It was a continuation.
> A lot of big films in the 90s are drama films but Drinker doesn't engage with drama films and calls them boring/pretentious
Give examples.
> Drinker claims to want variety in movies but never seems to engage with a variety of movies, he complains about the same few films.
Again, his channel is to critique current thing shit. Him talking about some obscure film that he liked won't change anything.
>Because the ironic thing is that people like Critical Drinker are literally part of the problem because they would like all these remakes/reboots if they weren't woke.
Holy fuck. His current vid derides remakes/reboots not because they are woke, but because they are recycled ideas. You are fucking insane. I would love to see a Spider-Man movie where he's 30. Not another "back to retell the high school origin story" remake.
>I'm looking forward to seeing a bunch of movies next month (lot of horror stuff coming out I'm willing to give a shot).
I will say this, I agree with you. Horror seems to be one of the few genres where they shy away from remakes (probably because they ran out of films to remake and they all bombed).

>>212974032
After watching his "television proof of concept" I highly doubt this

>>212973395
>People decry the woke capeshit/blockbusters but never move past them.
Because they keep getting made, duh? They are advocating for woke to go away, why would they stop advocating for that if it hasn't gone away yet?
>But I thought they were all flopping?
Yes, and part of the complaint is that movies aren't being made to entertain anymore. Their primary concern isn't making money, isn't making something the audience wants or will enjoy - it's sending a preachy message.
Yes, they underperform, but corporations are willing to take financial losses if it means pushing their agenda, especially when they are bankrolled by BlackRock and governments to push that agenda.

>>212974014
>Why do people like you think cinema is popslop
I don't. But popslop is without a massive driving force in film culture and mainstream culture. Always has been, always will be. And Drinker talks about that. I watched a film called Columbus a few weeks ago. It was really great. But I can admit that this film won't move the needle at all in how films are made, though I wish it would.

Cinema was killed by streaming devaluing entertainment so the price of a monthly subscription fee was cheaper than a cinema ticket with vastly more content. Streaming services have too much content which leads to choice paralysis whilst also having content that is samey leading to the feeling that there is no choice. The reliance on expensive tentpole movies or franchises is in part because of this. We are stuck in a transitionatory period in entertainment creating a mess. I like the big screen experience for all manner of movies but for most people only the big "theme park ride" movies are worth the price of admission. The issue is that people don't want to go to the big screen and pay a bunch of money because the experience isn't worth it for them unless it is overhyped big blockbuster. Especially when they have infinite mind numbing entertainment at home via streaming.

>>212973922
I don't think I will. Even for mainstream stuff it's not really true. Sure, Luke Skywalker and white hero figures outside of capeshit have become less common because of the brownification of the West but you've got shit like John Wick and if you count capeshit, you have Star Lord and other Pratt characters.

>>212973674
>I didn't see
I kind of halfway thought you wouldn't and wiped half of the list.
Watch more movies and not remakes?
>don't understand the argument.
Do you? You realize all the classics from the IMDB 250 your nigger critic is pedaling did not come out in the one decade? Not to mention the narrow selection of movies are not even the best of said period. Because he and you do not watch anything but Indiana Jones and Star Wars from the 80s.
>I said THIS VID wasn't about the MESSAGE
So what's the reason he provides that the supposed culture can't produce anything but remakes and reboots? Pray tell.
>People make movies with their fucking iphones.
Holy shit, you dumb fucking faggot. I don't mean the goddamn indies. There are geometrically more studio movies with every decade. What, you think streaming shit does not count? Are you fucking insane? Those are production companies with their own studios. Just because they are monopolized by three to five giga-corps doesn't mean the shit they produce is somehow irrelevant.
>You are trying to DOWNPLAY the huge amounts of reboots/remakes and the effects they've had on media and culture
Downplay for whom? A retarded nigger who watches nothing but capeshit and reboots he hates? Of course you are going to damage your "culture" when this is the only thing you watch. Do you seriously think watching Star Wars and action movies of the 80s counts as prime cultural events?
>Almost no one is watching them
The retarded culture warriors like you and him don't.
>They are being made, but they aren't breaking through
My stupid nigger. The supposed "culture" of the glorious past were not "indie" movies that needed to break through. They always had a giant studio behind them. What are you talking about?
>You. Don't. Get it
No, I get that the only example you have is capeshit, completely ignoring or pretending not see that the cultural impact those slop machines did dwarfs all of the "cultural" milestones of the "good" times

>>212974122
>white hero figures
You outed yourself saar.

>>212974118
There will never be a time where everyone's watching the same thing at the same time which used to be the norm. We live in hell world

People think picrel are 'heroes'. To me, CD is a hero. I'm sure he has to walk around Glasgow with a security detail. Do you just know what he's taking on? Do under-30s understand what he's risking, by saying what we're all thinking? You grew up in an age of 'wokeness', we grew up in an era of 'political correctness'. It's not this man's social media score on the line - it's his life, the lives of those around him. Yet every day, he dares.

>>212973044
>He's not wrong.
>He said in this vid that this stopped in the early 2010s. Kids today wear baggy clothes like it's the 90s. If it wasn't for the smartphone in everyone's hand it would be hard to tell the difference.

This is straight up old person talk. You just age out of that kinda of shit and stop noticing it. There' is 100% an 2010 look, and a 2020 look. You just got old.

>>212974118

Yep. And then soon with AI, you'll be able to generate your own movies with just a prompt, and then both streaming services, actors and cinemas will all be gone.

>>212974174
He's truly the last line of defense against woke slop

>>212974155
I hate illiterate dumb fucks like you.

>>212974195
What I can't tell online is if zoomers are genuinely retarded, or all the utterly fluoridated posts you see are by bots or Indians.

>>212974160
i stayed up until 5am or whatever it was for the UK simulcast of the finale of Lost.
i spent that time with you guys, television will never get that good again.

those live stream Fortnite events sound cool, no sarcasm, but apparently they're not great in practice. i think that's as close as it gets, now? 'FOMO' puts me off, it's like an obligation, not an attraction.

>>212974145
>Watch more movies and not remakes?
So you claim that more movies are being made than ever....but the fact that you and I haven't seen the exact same movies out of your list of 10 means I have to "watch more movies". You are legit retarded.
>Because he and you do not watch anything but Indiana Jones and Star Wars from the 80s.
How did you get so fucking stupid?
>So what's the reason he provides that the supposed culture can't produce anything but remakes and reboots? Pray tell.
He doesn't give a reason, he just says that it's happening. You're finally starting to get it.
>Holy shit, you dumb fucking faggot. I don't mean the goddamn indies.
Funny how you didn't specify that.
>There are geometrically more studio movies with every decade.
That's easy with so many remakes and reboots.
>Downplay for whom? A retarded nigger who watches nothing but capeshit and reboots he hates? Of course you are going to damage your "culture" when this is the only thing you watch.
I thought you were getting it. It doesn't matter what HE watches. HE watches what is being PUSHED. That's the point you are not getting. All those movies that are getting made combined wont' make a fraction of the money that Fantastic Four reboot 3 will make.
>. Do you seriously think watching Star Wars and action movies of the 80s counts as prime cultural events?
They were cinematic events that people still talk about. Those are the movies being remade.....
> They always had a giant studio behind them. What are you talking about?
I never said otherwise. You are literally having schizo conversations in your head and typing out the final few sentences....
SAD

>>212974195
could you just directly state/illustrate what these are?
as a teenager in the 2000s the whole emo/scene thing was very much in. maybe some indie kids, charvas here in the UK.

i really, really don't associate any particular look with the 2010s or 2020s so far. broccoli hair, and rattail/mullets are back? that's about it. i wouldn't look at a photo from the past 20 years and be able to date it, i'd be looking for specific phone models or at TVs in the background.

>>212974195
>a 2020 look. You just got old.
Yeah
>baggy clothes
>80s mullets and moustaches

The amount of retards dickriding this guy itt is hilarious fucking hell. Try and form your own opinions sometime.

>>212974299
>could you just directly state/illustrate what these are?
He can't and won't. Zoomers hate the fact that they have no cultural identity. It's just whatever is on tiktok that day.

>>212974331
Do you disagree that there are too many remakes?
Do you disagree that movies are too woke?

>>212974058
>Same fucking shit.
Well there is a difference, normal film reviewers don't all just regurgitate the same narrative over and over.
>Who said that? I never did and neither did he.
He has said it on a number of occasions though, plays into the go woke, go broke thing.
>Deadpool and Wolverine wasn't a reboot or a remake. It was a continuation.
I feel like we're talking past each other. I was making a general point about how people get trapped, that connection between love and hate being thin.

People like Drinker say everything is bad, don't venture out into new things, says he hates the big franchises because they are all out of ideas whilst also being enamoured with how the big franchises used to be good. Do you not think that is a trap? It is like just because you liked a franchise and it used to be good doesn't mean you should sit around just wanting more of it until the end of time. The point I am making is that Critical Drinker is trapped into wanting remakes only wanting remakes/reboots/more franchise stuff to fit what he wants.

These narratives people make are funny.. people say the MCU is bad now but I remember people bitching about MCU Phase 1 too back in the day. My point is just, that Drinker, like many people, bemoan the lack of variety when they themselves don't seek it either.

>Him talking about some obscure film that he liked won't change anything.
But that is part of the problem, movies aren't just "big films and obscure films". There is a variety of stuff, and with his audience he could create new trends if he watched something, enjoyed it, recommended it. But he won't, because the anger sales more.

>but because they are recycled ideas.
But he routinely shows that he is also trapped by liking recycled ideas too, that is the point. He can't move past them. That is what I am saying.

>I will say this, I agree with you.
Weapons, Together, Bring Her Back, at least one of these will hopefully be decent next month.

>>212973922
>Quotes and characters from Rocky, Star Wars, Terminator, etc
Oh you mean quotable memes from movies? That's the landmark from the culture?
I am Groot
I don't need X I got family
I wanna play a game
Look at me. I am the captain now
Not quite my tempo
You can say any of it without accent of the actor and people will know where are they from. How the fuck is this different from same low caliber of phrases from before the 00s? What a retarded fucking arbitrary reasoning by a faggot who thinks "I'll be back" is some incredible fucking cultural landmark that made Terminator iconic.

>>212974353
it's such a surface-level thing, though. i can identify 'e-boys' and 'e-girls', if they were out and about, that's about it. i want to know anon's answer for some other subculture, or just casual everyday folks in general.

without TRYING, look at the people on this website:
https://pointerpointer.com/
if you've never come across it, you can tell what era this site is from.

>>212974388
No.

>>212974251
There really was nothing like tv shows and movies before the internet and streaming. TV guides to find out what was coming, racing to the bathroom during commercials, being hyped for next week previews. Then there were the season finale cliffhangers which left you dying all summer long. I know some of it was just being young at the time but I honestly don't think it's possible to feel that kind of interest in modern entertainment. There's so much lost in having it all anytime we want anywhere we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KFfbjg3Iw

>>212974408
>Well there is a difference, normal film reviewers don't all just regurgitate the same narrative over and over.
They do when the movies coming out are the fucking same over and and over. Do you want him to say "I can't say She-Hulk was woke, because I already called Captain Marvel woke!"?
>He has said it on a number of occasions though,
I never heard him say that. If you got a vid post it.
> I was making a general point about how people get trapped, that connection between love and hate being thin.
Most people want something that isn't a remake or woke. Deadpool and Wolverine delivered.
>People like Drinker say everything is bad,
Not true. He recently praised Andor.
>don't venture out into new things,
How do you know that? He might watch and love a dozen low budget films, but he won't talk about them because his channel is about mainstream shit. If I have a youtube channel where I discuss Major League Baseball and the things I don't like about it, why would I make a vid about a Little League game that I saw on tv?
> The point I am making is that Critical Drinker is trapped into wanting remakes only wanting remakes/reboots/more franchise stuff to fit what he wants.
What a retarded take. He literally praised the F1 Brad Pitt movie and the movie Warfare about a battle in Iraq.
>But that is part of the problem, movies aren't just "big films and obscure films".
In the mainstream, it is. It's always been that way.

>>212972185
>clip of Henry Cavil as Geralt saying "...fuck"
>slowed down clip of some dipshit laughing
>slowed down clip of Nicholas Cage in his underwear grunting
>clip of Dumb & Dumber diarrhea scene
>clip of Gandalf with no teeth paired with cross eyed Frodo
I already hated YouTubers but these Fandom Menace fags are somehow even worse

>>212974438
>No.
Then you are clearly a brainwashed retard.

>>212974515
Brad Pitt's F1 movie is pretty much Top Gun Maverick, again.

>>212974118
I need people to understand that the psychology of streaming is a huge part of the problem. I want to stress, I am not being nostalgic for the video store but people need to understand: you'd rent a movie and give it a shot and if you liked it you might even watch it a few times before returning it, you couldn't just turn it off and find something new. The psychology of giving it the benefit of the doubt or actively watching it because you paid good money to rent it impacts heavily on expectations vs reality. Nowadays content has been so devalued we exist in a space of two extremes, you either love something or hate something. Expectations are massive and expectation is the thief of joy. The only state between love and hate is the numbing effect of bland or repetitive content or constant guilty pleasure/comfort viewing.

Psychology of consumption because of the medium in which you watched or consume things weirdly impacts your enjoyment. A "monster of the week" show has different expectations to a "series long arc in which everything deathly matters". FOMO (fear of missing out) is a double edged sword. FOMO drove people to watch all the MCU movies but over time the buy in of effort became too great and people turned off. And anyway, big trends can end up like shit too, like Game of Thrones. The extremes of everything matters or nothing matters rather than just reliable but disposable entertainment is a problem.

>>212974414
>That's the landmark from the culture?
It's a landmark of POP culture and film quality in general.
>Look at me. I am the captain now
This is the only one that qualifies.
> What a retarded fucking arbitrary reasoning by a faggot who thinks "I'll be back" is some incredible fucking cultural landmark that made Terminator iconic.
The scene and line are iconic. Shit like that doesn't happen anymore...because all energy goes into remakes

>>212974544
Wrong. I havent seen it but it looks gay.

>>212974544
>Brad Pitt's F1 movie is pretty much Top Gun Maverick, again.
It isn't. Though it was the same director so there are some artistic similarities.

>>212974487
i remember HEARING about episodes of Star Trek TNG and hoping they'd be on.

you can just watch every/any episode of The Simpsons, now. yeah it's great. it also kind of sucks. maybe i have ADHD or something but i wouldn't go out of my way to stream Batman or Murder, She Wrote. but damn right were they comfy linear broadcast viewing, when they were on.

>>212974541
Remakes have always been a common thing and what do you mean woke? Stupid fucking word.

>>212974284
>but the fact that you and I haven't seen the exact same movies out of your list of 10
Lmao nigger, are you as Crikial slopper viewer seriously going to tell me you are watching anything but the culture war talks about? Get the fuck out and watch more movies.
>How did you get so fucking stupid?
I know how you did, by watched culture war youtubers and pretending the most basic bitch shit from IMDB 250s is all ever need.
>He doesn't give a reason, he just says that it's happening
Wow incredible insight.
>Movies - bad, old movies me watch as a kid - good. Thank you for listening.
I see why you like him.
>HE watches what is being PUSHED
A person living in the 80s and 90s who watches the same torrent of identical action shlock might have a word with you the fact that you think that cinema is only now garbing onto the derivative easy to market and sell trends basically proves that you literally have not seen anything but the most basic, already established iconography and now made in your mind a version of Hollywood that was producing hit after hit with nothing in-between.
>They were cinematic events that people still talk about.
What the threshold to that you dumb faggot? How is it different from MCU fanfare? Is it not and event? Was Barbenheimer not an event? Was GOT and it's subsequent fall out not an event?
Again, like a dumb fucking idiot is pretending that everything produced in the Hollywood in the 70 to 90s was Star Wars.
>I never said otherwise
>I don't mean the goddamn indies.
>Funny how you didn't specify that.
Hey shizo, I know it's hard to read but try because it was the same point.

>>212974632
>>212974637
>Literally about the grizzled veteran with a young rookie and they build respect over a film.

>>212974668
>boomslop

>>212974651
>Remakes have always been a common thing
Not in the quantity of the last 15-20 years. Not even close. We have 3 Fantastic Four movies in 20 years. 3 Spider-Mans, I don't even know how many Supermans when you count the tv shows and cartoons.
> what do you mean woke? Stupid fucking word.
Wow, it's "I'm gonna pretend that I've lived under a rock the last 15 years"
Woke =
>character like Rey from Star Wars that is a super girl boss that can do everything without any help from anyone
>white males = bad, black males = almost always good
>forced skittle flag shit in movies

>>212974608
>This is the only one that qualifies.
Why the fuck is it the only one that classifies?
Are pretending that nobody quotes Saw or Fletcher? Actually being disingenuous for the sake of argument. Very Critikal Drinker-like indeed.
>Shit like that doesn't happen anymore
I literally provided you the fucking lines. Remove your anal plug of needless nostalgia, all the shit I listed is used more than "I'll be back" which means by your own retarded criteria it's more iconic.

>>212974668
wrong

>>212974515
>They do when the movies coming out are the fucking same over and and over.
Yeah because he is watching the same shit over and over again, hence my point.
>I never heard him say that. If you got a vid post it.
Are you honestly saying he has never talked about how everything is flopping?
>Most people want something that isn't a remake or woke. Deadpool and Wolverine delivered.
And yet it is more of the same. Do you not see the irony here? Complaining about recycled ideas whilst praising a film full of them?
>Not true. He recently praised Andor.
I've literally mentioned before that sure, he will like some stuff if a narrative amongst his audience is they like it. But the stuff he likes is almost tokenistic. Most of his schtick is in complaining.
>How do you know that?
I'm talking about what he presents. I know your argument is "that's just what the channel is" but I am saying that so many channels are like this, so much so that they end up as part of the problem.

>>212974738
The overreaction to Trump is pretty much over now and things have gone back to ~ how they were pre 2016.

>>212974664
>Lmao nigger, are you as Crikial slopper viewer seriously going to tell me you are watching anything but the culture war talks about? Get the fuck out and watch more movies.
More of that schizo talk.
>I know how you did, by watched culture war youtubers and pretending the most basic bitch shit from IMDB 250s is all ever need.
More schizo shit. You will be saying I'm the Critical Drinker soon.
>Wow incredible insight.
I'm sorry you lost the argument.
>Movies - bad, old movies me watch as a kid - good. Thank you for listening.
He praised F1 and Warfare recently....Again, you are a schizo. You just parrot talking points from tiktok.
> think that cinema is only now garbing onto the derivative easy to market and sell trends basically proves that you literally have not seen anything but the most basic, already established iconography and now made in your mind a version of Hollywood that was producing hit after hit with nothing in-between.
Again, that's what makes a cultural impact. You still don't get it. 1,000,000 direct to streaming movies won't have the impact of yet another Fantasitic Four reboot.
>How is it different from MCU fanfare?
I never said it was. MCU wasn't remakes/reboots.
>Was Barbenheimer not an event?
Were either of those remakes or reboots?
>Was GOT and it's subsequent fall out not an event?
Again, was that reboot. You are literally proving my point. We would have MORE GoT and Barbenheimer events if they were LESS remakes and reboots. Are you getting it?
>Hey shizo,
Schizos tend to call other people schizo when they themselves get called schizo. At least try to be creative.

>>212974668
>>Literally about the grizzled veteran with a young rookie and they build respect over a film.
Are you acting like Top Gun Maverick invented this trope? Holy fuck all zoomers should be fucking gassed.

I invented a new super hero more powerful than Superman. His name is Superbman. The 'S' stand for Superb.

>>212974738
>We have 3 Fantastic Four movies in 20 years
That's part of the MCU. That's the cultural phenomena you are so eagerly looking for and pretending it's not the same. Slop? For sure. Was Star Wars not the same slop? Wasn't Superman and Batman with their sequels of increasingly lower quality? What's the difference?

>>212974770
>classifies
Hello saar.
>Are pretending that nobody quotes Saw
That's early 2000s.
>I literally provided you the fucking lines.
Are you really saying those lines had the impact of "I'll be back" or "May the Force be with you"? STOP. And AGAIN, those lines are. NOT. FROM. REMAKES. You keep proving my fucking point.,

>>212974898
>Are you acting like Top Gun Maverick invented this trope?
What a retarded strawman. Nah, I am saying it is ironic as fuck that Critical Drinker complains about remakes and recycled ideas then continuously only praises movies with recycled ideas.

>>212974930
>That's part of the MCU.
It is now, but for a long time it wasn't. It was owned by Fox (who was bought by Disney a few years ago).

>>212974946
>Hello saar.
Fucking mongrel.

>>212974957
>Nah, I am saying it is ironic as fuck that Critical Drinker complains about remakes and recycled ideas then continuously only praises movies with recycled ideas.
There are only like 7 stories in existance you fucking retard. 2 separate movies about a guy building a spaceship isn't the same as a movie about a guy building a spaceship and the remake of this movie.

>>212975000
Yeah there are, retard, and drinker just wants to watch the same crap over and over again whilst also complaining about how everything is the same.

>>212972404
>and he blamed the female actress girlboss for it being bad.
kek, what? elaborate.

Drinker looks like James Gunn's retarded cousin. Not taking anything serious that clown says.

>>212975062
>just wants to watch the same crap over and over again whilst also complaining about how everything is the same.
All they put out is the same remakes and woke shit. ("b-but why doesn't he talk about these straight to Amazon movies!")
Because that's not what his channel is about. He literally praises movies that he likes. Warfare he liked, oh but is that not worthy because there have been other Iraq war movies already? kys faggot.

The minute anyone tells me what ecelebs they like I immediately turn off and think they are retarded.

>>212975100
>needing to watch some random eceleb to tell your opinions back to you
Why are you so fucking retarded

>>212975139
>needing to enter a thread about some random eceleb and posting in it
Why are you so fucking retarded?

>>212974872
>More of that schizo talk
>immediately name drops F1 and Warfare that were the last FOTM as prove he isn't actually watching what's being pushed by advertisers
Zero self awareness. Watch more movies.
>More schizo shit
Why are you pretending that you are watching anything different from him?
You movie diet to is capeshit, remakes and FOTM mid budget studio movie so you can pretend you aren't obsessing over the former.
> 1,000,000 direct to streaming movies won't have the impact of yet another Fantasitic Four reboot
Holy shizo, the entire point and title of the video was that these reboots produce no cultural impact. Why are you now in a direct contradiction of what that nigger midwit said?
>You are literally proving my point
The point of Hollywood producing only reboots and remakes but pointing out cultural phenomenons that aren't remakes or reboots?
Why are you calling me shizo you dumb fucking idiot when you are KWABing yourself into the groin? All of those are not from the 2000s Oppenheimer was 2 years ago. Do you not understand how demeted you sound?
>At least try to be creative
Ar least try to not ignore you being unable to follow your own bullshit, first claiming that the amount of movies producing increased because of indies and then pretending you never said it. In the same post I might add.

>>212972084 (OP)
He's not wrong, blockbusters are completely boring now but I doubt the man whose own OC is an incredibly generic sub-Tom Clancy knock off can really explain any of the reasons why thats the case.

>>212972084 (OP)
You idiots do not understand. He finds the movie so bad, he has to chug whiskey just so he can cope with the pain.

>>212975156
You're getting angry why? Why do you need to suck the dick of some guy telling you shit movies are shit? Seriously bro, I know you'll get mad at me again but I'm trying to help you. Quit being a dick rider and sort yourself out.

>>212975236
>Zero self awareness. Watch more movies.
I'm sorry you lost
>"DRINKER HATES NEW MOVIES"
>(name 2 new movies he likes)
>"Uh, WATCH MORE MOVIES!"
Again, schizo.
>Why are you pretending that you are watching anything different from him?
Schizo.
>You movie diet to is capeshit, remakes and FOTM mid budget studio movie so you can pretend you aren't obsessing over the former.
Schizo.
>Holy shizo,
How creative.
>the entire point and title of the video was that these reboots produce no cultural impact.
I should have said "financial impact", I didn't say cultural impact. More people will see F4 reboot and forget it. They won't see those streaming movies. You still don't get it.
>The point of Hollywood producing only reboots and remakes but pointing out cultural phenomenons that aren't remakes or reboots?
Yes. We would have more Barbenheimers if there weren't so many reboots and remakes.
>KWABing
Holy fuck, you're a /pw/ poster.....Summer of 92, "I fucking LOVE AEW!"
>Ar least try to not ignore you being unable to follow your own bullshit
What can't I follow?
>tons of reboots/remakes hurt movie cultures
>there would be more Barbenheimers if there were less remakes
>all these remakes hurt the possibility of great movies, characters and lines
Again, schizo (and from /pw/ no less).

>>212975343
>You're getting angry why?
Uh, did I use CAPS or "!!!".
>Why do you need to suck the dick of some guy telling you shit movies are shit?
Why do you care?
>Seriously bro, I know you'll get mad at me again but I'm trying to help you.
Yes, I'm so filled with rage with my lack of CAPS and !!!!
>Quit being a dick rider and sort yourself out.
Quit being a "zomg I'd better jump in here and sort all this out on a taiwanese basket weaving board" faggot and sort yourself out.

>>212974946
Those lines have no impact you imbecile.
It's the movies that give them context make them landmarks.
>STOP. And AGAIN, those lines are. NOT. FROM. REMAKES
No need to sperg out little friend. Don't hit yourself. Yes, I am saying that. Nobody quotes Star Wars, it's fucking cringe, like quoting musicals fro the 50s.
And I'm not trying to grade them, it's you and the Critikal nigger who are pretending that saying that people recognizing those means they make those movie more culturally impactful. I put a gun to your head and ask you to tell me without Google the plot of Dirty Harry, you won't be able. So very iconic indeed.
>That's early 2000s
Huh, so you and the nigger faggot take quotes and phrases from movies spanning from 70s to 90s but me taking from 00s to 20s is somehow different and doesn't count because it breaks your retarded culture entrapy argument. Very curious.
>Hello saar.
I'm telling you, dude, if you are not sure about something at least Google instead of embarrassing yourself. What's the right 3rd person of 'classify'

>>212975413
>Why do you care?
Because you don't have to be an NPC slave to this shit anon, you could be better. Sorry for thinking you could be better.

>>212975554
>Those lines have no impact you imbecile.
Yeah, nobody remembers then 50 years later....
>No need to sperg out little friend. Don't hit yourself.
Oh boy the "I'm losing the argument so calm down" shit...
>. Nobody quotes Star Wars, it's fucking cringe,
But they KNOW the quote. That's the point.
>And I'm not trying to grade them, it's you and the Critikal nigger who are pretending that saying that people recognizing those means they make those movie more culturally impactful.
They do. How do you measure the lasting impact of a movie?
>Huh, so you and the nigger faggot take quotes and phrases from movies spanning from 70s to 90s but me taking from 00s to 20s is somehow different and doesn't count because it breaks your retarded culture entrapy argument. Very curious.
Early 00s is before cultural decay began (early 2010s). Not my fault, just the way it is. There are barely any quotes from movies in the last 15 years.
You are so fucking schizo that it's SAD

>>212972117
This guy doesn't know what comple means lmao

>>212972978
best intake in the thread. Drinker thought that he liked watching good movies, but in reality he is cucked by big hollywood and can't let go

>>212975666
>Because you don't have to be an NPC slave to this shit anon
I'm not, but ok. Why are you an NPC slave to being counter to him? At least I'm replying to the topic OP created. You are just here because....why?

>>212974535
I don't know why all of them do this shit. It's like the youtuber version of the morning radio DJ soundboard and it's fucking tiresome and retarded. I don't even hate these youtubers, but I wish they'd stop it with the
>mildly witty joke
>[insert copy and paste video clip meme]

>>212975712
Why are you acting like it takes some herculean effort to quickly post in a thread? I'm here to remind you eceleb shit is cancer and literally doing anything is better. Some people need the reminder.

>>212975691
All nerds are fucked by Hollywood and don't let go because they feel justified in their anger over star wars or whatever being ruined.

It's sad and pathetic. Making your whole identity revolve around that shit, so much so that you can let yourself be destroyed when it goes to shit.

>>212975772
>Why are you acting like it takes some herculean effort to quickly post in a thread?
I'm sorry you never learned to type on a real keyboard you fucking faggot.
>I'm here to remind you eceleb shit is cancer and literally doing anything is better. Some people need the reminder.
If they have correct opinions, I will say as much.

>>212975800
>says a bleddit spacer on /tv/

>>212975377
>Literally ran out of arguments resorting to passive aggressive dismissive bitch behavior
>You still don't get it.
I really don't. Because now it's about box office numbers and not cultural impact
>We would have more Barbenheimers
You stupid nigger, we had reboots and remakes during Barbenheimer too.
We had reboots during the height of MCU, we had as many reboots and remakes in 2010s. Cultural juggernauts were still being made despite all that.
What is this shizo argument, you want Star Wars tier event every summer? This has never been the case in the 80s and 90s, are you actually mental?
>you're a /pw/ poster
What the fuck are you talking about?
KWAB has been universally used on the site and outside of it for several years now.
I was just cheeky about shizo. You good?
>What can't I follow?
>tons of reboots/remakes hurt movie cultures
Take you retarded eyes and move them a notch above the post where you are not claiming that it's not about cultural impact but the bix office and I swear if by the end if reading this sentence you will unironically claim this the same thing I will be both unsuprised and be completely convince that anyone who watches critkal drinker also a mouth breathing BO posting brownoid. Who literally couldn't give less of a fuck about movies as a whole. That's what you can't follow.

>>212975805
I thought you said you weren't mad, kek. But all you can do is lash out. Seriously what's the issue? None of this shit matters as much as you think.

>>212975800
The funny thing about culture wars, most nerds are just liberals rejected by muh franchises being ruined but get laughed at by actual conservatives.

>>212975849
So you're still upset about Star Wars then. Go outside and get laid.

>>212975728
It's an instant sign that I'm not the target demographic of whatever bullshit they're talking about
it's like when a video that's ostensibly for adults uses the Vine "boom" sound constantly, it's a tell that the video is actually for children and brown 3rd worlders

>>212975800
>so much so that you can let yourself be destroyed when it goes to shit.
People really give random strangers complete power over themselves

>>212975849
That's not what Reddit spacing is, newfag

>>212975872
>>Literally ran out of arguments resorting to passive aggressive dismissive bitch behavior
Schizo
>I really don't. Because now it's about box office numbers and not cultural impact
I've said numerous times that more people will see the Fantastic Four reboot (hence the financial part). Keep up, schizo.
>You stupid nigger, we had reboots and remakes during Barbenheimer too.
AGAIN, I said "We would have had MORE Barbenheimers". You are so close! Less reboots/remakes = more original movies = more impact!
>We had reboots during the height of MCU
Exactly. It was either MCU or reboots. I don't like MCU (but lots do) so most movie theater goers were left with only the option of reboots or MCU.
>What is this shizo argument
Why are you saying "shizo"? You know it's "schizo" right? As in schizophrenic. I know you don't want to face your reality, but changing the spelling won't change that fact.
> you want Star Wars tier event every summer?
I would like more Barbenheimer stuff, YES! Original movies that people like. I guess you are happy with another Fantastic Four reboot?
>What the fuck are you talking about?
KWAB has been universally used on the site and outside of it for several years now.
STOP. LOLOLOL. "KWAB" is a /pw/ term. It means "Kek What a Bitch" and it's from Kevin Nash getting raped in the summer of 92. This is just SAD at this point.
>Take you retarded eyes and move them a notch above the post where you are not claiming that it's not about cultural impact but the bix office
Lots of people seeing a remake = them not making original movies.
HO-LY. FUCK.
KWAB schizo.

>>212975884
>I thought you said you weren't mad, kek.
What, you're upset that I called you a faggot that can't type? Is that what faggots like you constitute as "mad"?
Last (you), retard.

>>212976022
>That's not what Reddit spacing is, newfag
Yes it is faggot, holy fuck you zoomers are clueless. This guy isn't bleddit spacing: >>212975872
Neither am I: >>212976037
This guy is: >>212975800

>>212972280
>It was more about how culture has stagnated the last 15 years and how nothing new is created

What a tired fucking argument. Notice how it always perfectly coincides with the age of the person making it, ie. "everything started to suck" when they were in their late teens/early adulthood.

>>212976068
You're mad because you can't seem to comprehend anything or respond well without lashing out, all because you're upset over being called out for being a dick riding shill. You seem to think it's good that you actually responded to the OP like it mattered. Just plainly sad that this is how you've ended up.

>>212976131
>What a tired fucking argument.
It's not untrue. Fill your movie theaters with tons of remakes and reboots and you will see the damage. Same with tv. Almost every fucking 80s show got a reboot in the last 10 years.

>>212976096
You haven't been here very long becausr you're making the same newfag mistake

>>212972084 (OP)
>Acts tough while making review videos. Ruthlessly picks apart movies.

>Gets a chance to interview a director and acts like an excited fanboy, and disregards everything he's said in his own videos. Kisses Director's ass.

I lost all respect for Drinker the moment this happened years ago.

>>212976187
>this one pic gets it wrong
>posts it anyway

>>212975684
>But they KNOW the quote. That's the point
And everybody knows Capitan Philips quote or the Familia meme quote. By your own moronic logic that makes them as impactful as Star Wars. You seriously think Star Wars is remembered because of the "Use the tong in bussy, player?"
>the "I'm losing the argument so calm down"
I'm not the one typing in caps STOP pretending that it's somehow an argument.
>How do you measure the lasting impact of a movie?
Not by fucking movie quotes. Holy shit distilling cinema into a quip to put on shirt as a prove of its lasting impact or quality is something not even the most degenerate movie suits are willing to stand behind. But not the brave culture warriors. Well, I'll be.
>2010s cultural decay began because I stopped watching anything but cape shit and reboots I hate
>you are a shizo by the way
You don't register how retarded you and the midwit up there sound?
So GOT, MCU, the biggest bulk of Nolan movies, Fury Road those are all actually the entropy? Or are you going to move the timline even further?
Also are you aware what vile shit started being produced in the 70s?
You know, that's where the porn became the accpected and studios conglomerated, leading to acceptance of pederasty in film due to counter culture, creating shit like Pink Falmingos? But that wasn't cultural decline or you just don't count this simply 'because?'

>>212972280
AKA: exactly the kind of thing /tv/ has 10 threads dedicated to at any given time but when drinker says it he's wrong.

They hate him because he's a mirror.

you people care way too much about slop

>>212976218
You can find archive threads from the beginning of fucking 4chan with the same formatting before Reddit even existed. Quit being a faggot.

You know how everyone you meet says some variation of they like to try new things but in reality they are set in their ways and don't venture out their comfort zone? People have become super risk averse for a variety of societal, economic, technological reasons. So people just want to stay in their comfort zone and knowing what to expect helps. Hence why audiences like remakes and reboots rather than giving other things a chance. And sure it fails sometimes but audiences are apathetic and not willing to try with original content. You only get given what you deserve.

>>212976253
>And everybody knows Capitan Philips quote
No they don't. Not even close. But it was the more impactful than the others you listed.
>By your own moronic logic that makes them as impactful as Star Wars. You seriously think Star Wars is remembered because of the "Use the tong in bussy, player?"
Schizo. KWAB
>I'm not the one typing in caps STOP pretending that it's somehow an argument.
I'm not the one telling you to calm down to deflect from my failures.
And I said STOP because you are trying to deny that you are a /pw/ poster. "Herr derr KWAB is universal!"
>Not by fucking movie quotes.
Then how? You ripped on Drinker for not giving answers, but here you are not giving an answer. People remember quotes like they remember song lyrics. "I'm the one who knocks", "I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse", "Call me Ishmael". Just the way it is. You can't accept reality, schizo.
KWAB.
>So GOT, MCU, the biggest bulk of Nolan movies, Fury Road those are all actually the entropy? Or are you going to move the timline even further?
Funny how ALL of those aren't remakes (only Nolan's Batman movies are). Are you getting it yet? Remakes/reboots = dilute the impact of other movies because they suck up all the eyeballs while at the same time studios makes less original movies.
KWAB
>ou know, that's where the porn became the accpected
So what? You're anti-porn?
>and studios conglomerated
Learn your history, faggot. There were only a few studios and in the 70s they allowed directors like Lucas and Coppolla to have more creative freedom. There were always ruled with an iron fist.
> leading to acceptance of pederasty in film due to counter culture, creating shit like Pink Falmingos?
So you hate John Waters? One of the best indie filmmakers of all time? You accuse me of watching only mainstream slop and you reject Pink Flamingos? KWAB
> But that wasn't cultural decline
That's a matter of opinion. But since 2010 culture has stayed still.

>>212976346
>You can find archive threads from the beginning of fucking 4chan with the same formatting before Reddit even existed. Quit being a faggot.
Irrelevant. Bleddit became such a shitty internet force that the posting style is visual poison on this board. Note how 95% of the posts in this thread alone done use double spaces.

>>212972084 (OP)
Anyone with an IQ over 80 and the lack of specific "progressive" Hollywood mental disorders has all the answers.

>>212976483
It's Reddit as fuck to constantly call shit out as Reddit.

>>212972084 (OP)
Does this nigga like anything?

>>212976516
>It's Reddit as fuck to constantly call shit out as Reddit.
Wow, you sure showed me.

>>212976564
>Didn't get the joke

>>212976037
More people seeing the movie doesn't translate to cultural impact or garentees it.
>We would have had MORE Barbenheimers
And we have them.
You stupid nigger are you actually pretending that every year in 70s and 80s there was an immediately impact event movie? Are you fucking insane? Actually why am I even asking this. You are a capeshit slurping, treating box officeas objective quality of the movie, culture warrior.
>It was either MCU or reboots
Actual shizo reality of person who watches cape slop but pretends he doesn't.
>I would like more Barbenheimer stuff
Why? Isn't it the entropy of the culture that has been going on since 2010?
>Why are you saying shizo
Because you are saying completely random shit at this point.
First you tell me that Hollywood can't produce cultural event movies since 2010, when I provide you with the list you are giddily pointing at them and say you like it and that youbwant more of that, contradicting the supposed shizo claim that it's only reboots and remakes and nothing else.
>STOP
>KWAB is a /pw/ term
Actually shizo. I'm not even sure what the fuck were you even conveying in the first place. I don't think you either.
>Lots of people seeing a remake = them not making original
>Hollywood never produced remakes until 2020s
You are verifiable shizo.
>inb4 NOT IN THIS AMMOUNTS!
Do you have a single fucking number or statistic to back this up, besides pulling it out of ass for the sake of a argument?

>>212976658
>More people seeing the movie doesn't translate to cultural impact or garentees it.
True. But them seeing mostly remakes greatly diminishes the chances of an original film having an impact. Get it yet?
>And we have them.
Uh, what Barbenheimers have we had since then or before then? It was a great summer 2 years ago. You are legit advocating for LESS original movies.
>You stupid nigger are you actually pretending that every year in 70s and 80s there was an immediately impact event movie?
No, but there were much more original movies...that are beloved and being remade today.
>. You are a capeshit slurping
Says the guy that hates John Waters...KWAB
>Actual shizo reality of person who watches cape slop but pretends he doesn't.
Says the schizo that claims to be all high and mighty but hates John Waters....
>Why?
Because they were original movies that people liked. I guess you don't want that.
>Because you are saying completely random shit at this point.
Ok...."You watch MCU.....oh and I hate the most counter culture filmmaker of all time"
>First you tell me that Hollywood can't produce cultural event movies since 2010
I literally never said that. "Cultural event" is different than "lasting cultural impact". There are less original movies because of remakes (you keep ignoring this point).
>contradicting the supposed shizo claim that it's only reboots and remakes and nothing else.
Sigh, I never said this schizo. I said there are so many reboots that it takes the eyeballs away from original movies (that aren't MCU). Yes things like Barbenheimer happen and break through, but we would have more original movies in theaters if for some reason reboots and remakes were outlawed.
>Actually shizo. I'm not even sure what the fuck were you even conveying in the first place. I don't think you either.
So now you're playing dumb when it comes to KWAB? SAD.

>>212976658
>>212976658
>>Hollywood never produced remakes until 2020s
I never said this. Again, SCHIZO. I have said many times that the amount of remakes in the last 15 years dwarfs the amount of remakes from the 50 years before that.
>You are verifiable shizo.
Still using my line...still spelling it wrong...denying KWAB....SAD
>Do you have a single fucking number or statistic to back this up, besides pulling it out of ass for the sake of a argument?
You really need a fucking stats book to accept the reality that there have been more remakes in the last 15 years than before 2010? REALLY? That is pure schizo right there.

>>212976456
>No they don't
Yes they are. You can see all of the listed on the internet used far more than any of the Star Wars ones.
And again the argument was recognizing movie by a quip all of those pass easily. Making them by your retarded logic on the same level
>And I said STOP because you are trying to deny that you are a /pw/ poster. "Herr derr KWAB is universal
Honey, that's the wrong post. I know you are mental and all but you were yelling STOP in this one >>212974946 to which I said to calm down.
>Funny how ALL of those aren't remakes
I know right? But they were made during the period of Hollywood producing a fuck tone of them of remakes, which, my shizo imbecile leads us to conclusion that Hollywood is very much capable of producing cultural event movies and recycling thier old ideas which the have been doing anyway.
You like Gladiator? Very quotable movie, right, the icon. Did you know that it's a remake?
>Then how?
How what? You stupid nigger time decides what gets to be in cultural zeitgeist not quotable quips on a t-shirt.
>There were only a few studios
That's what conglomerated means. Are you pretending there wasn't a massive decline in the 60s and a giant restructuring of everything?
Again, Google before trying to sound smart.
>You're anti-porn
Der commer, the woke mind virus you and your warriors are so valiantly fighting against started in 70s from queers, niggers and fags snoozing thier way into movie production. First as indies, now in everything. If you are looking for cultural decline this is where it started not when someone decided to remake Total Recal in 2010s.
>One of the best indie filmmakers of all time?
You have not watched many indie filmmakers if you are actually going to claim this.
>You accuse me of watching only mainstream slop and you reject Pink Flamingos
So you are fine with trannies, fags in the movies? What are you fighting against if trailblazer Waters is your goat?

>>212977057
>Yes they are. You can see all of the listed on the internet used far more than any of the Star Wars ones.
The fact that you really believe this is fucking schizo of the highest order.
>Honey, that's the wrong post. I know you are mental and all but you were yelling STOP in this one >>212974946 (You) to which I said to calm down.
So now I'm supposed to know that you're jumping back 20 posts? STOP KWAB
>I know right?
Yes. Glad we agree. Movies that aren't remakes are better and have more impact. i don't see you praising any remakes....(but you are defending them).
>? But they were made during the period of Hollywood producing a fuck tone of them of remakes, which, my shizo imbecile leads us to conclusion that Hollywood is very much capable of producing cultural event movies and recycling thier old ideas which the have been doing anyway.
Sigh. Wouldn't you like to have MORE of those original movies? The point that you can't seem to accept is that in the age before remake/reboot mania, there were great original movies all the time....now it's a fucking event because it's so fucking rare. KWAB.
>You like Gladiator? Very quotable movie, right, the icon. Did you know that it's a remake?
Gladiator isn't a remake you fucking faggotl LOLOLOLOL HOLY KWAB!
>You stupid nigger time decides what gets to be in cultural zeitgeist not quotable quips on a t-shirt.
And they remember the quotes (among other things)....You still don't get it (among other things).
>That's what conglomerated means. Are you pretending there wasn't a massive decline in the 60s and a giant restructuring of everything?
New filmmakers (people who grew up watching movies) wanted more power. The restructuring was just American getting more corporate. KWAB
>Der commer, the woke mind virus you and your warriors are so valiantly fighting against started in 70s from queers, niggers and fags snoozing thier way into movie production.
So are you anti-porn?

>>212977057
>Der commer, the woke mind virus you and your warriors are so valiantly fighting against started in 70s from queers, niggers and fags snoozing thier way into movie production. First as indies, now in everything. If you are looking for cultural decline this is where it started not when someone decided to remake Total Recal in 2010s.
Oh, you're one of those "ackstually! Woke started in the 70s!" You're fucking delusional, schizo and kwab.
>You have not watched many indie filmmakers if you are actually going to claim this.
You're still here talking about his movies 50 years later....
>So you are fine with trannies, fags in the movies?
If the movie is good, sure. You are trying so hard to be edgy that it's ridiculous at this point.
>NIGGER, TRANNY, 70s WAS WOKE TOO!
>What are you fighting against if trailblazer Waters is your goat?
Again, schizo. I said was ONE of the best INDIE filmmakers. And what am I fighting against? Remakes/reboots.
This is your last (you). I'm sorry, I didn't know you were this retarded. You are so schizo that you don't know that this entire conversation was about remakes/reboots and you somehow morphed that into "You like John Waters?! What you fighting against!?"
KWAB (just keep pretending you're not from /pw/, it's funny).

>>212976847
>But them seeing mostly remakes
Except that is not true with examples provided previously.
>what Barbenheimers have we had since then
Provide evidence of every summer in the 70s and 80s producing a cultural event movie please. Again that's your mostalgia buttplug talking.
>there were much more original
There are as many today. But you already showed that you are hardly watching them.
>hates John Waters
>nigger will fight the culture war against trannies but ignore the guy who introduced the most influential one
This is a very bizarre war against woke.
So I guess it's okay after all.
>You watch MCU.....oh and I hate the most counter culture filmmaker of all time
>I hate woke in movies so much!
>My darling Waters I love your vulgar pederasty that showed everyone that it's okay to be a degenerate tranny
>Cultural event" is different than "lasting cultural impact
Flip floping again. How would you or Critikal shizo know what would have lasting impact in the future and what isn't? It's literally dedicated by future not billions in BO.
>I said there are so many reboots that it takes the eyeballs away from original movies
And before that franchise movies were taking away from original and before that genere capers and other rebots.
>amount of remakes in the last 15 years dwarfs the amount of remakes from the 50 years before that.
Numbers please. Adjusted for amount of movies made per decade overall.
>You really need a fucking stats book
Yes, not wailing farming of a woke loving, capeshit watching culture warrior.

>>212975728
>>212974535
its engagement baiting. teens need constant stimuli or they forget why they were engaging with the video, so the video's author puts in random 1-2sec stims to keep the zoomies engaged since they'll at least go "HAHA A MEME JUST LIKE IN MY TIKTOKS"

>>212972687
>Bias from him being an old fuck.
Wow. He is just like me.

>>212972330
>9 people talking over each other to say something basic
Try like 2 dozen people.
>"Superman 2025 is GERBARGEGAAVAE sorry man you go GERGASG ahead. well GSGERGAVSV HAHAHAHAH gERGEGASG fucking woke girl boss GERGEERGEG ASDFASDFASDFASDFASDFASDFASDFASDFTHGWRNVSDA

>>212977475
i'll never understand how shad went from a reddit sperg version of lindybeigo to a griftertuber LMAO can someone explain the pipeline here

and isn't he also a father+husband with a mortgage to pay with youtube as his main source of income.

>>212972084 (OP)
>its time for my regular programming update by a grifter because I'm an npc
these threads are always full of retardation

>>212977213
>The fact that you really believe
The fact that you keep denying it while simultaneously not understanding the entire argument is very telling.
>So now I'm supposed to know
By not being shizo and changing what he is arguing about every other post.
>Glad we agree
Are familiar with a concept of a paragraph? Just responding to selective sentence separated from a full context is just fucking bizarre.
>Wouldn't you like to have MORE of those original movies?
There are more original movie than ever.
Again the difference is you and you clown there are choosing to not watching, pretending to be victimized by remakes you are choosing to consume.
>Gladiator isn't a remake you fucking faggot
The Fall of the Roman Empire. Watch more movies, maybe you will realize how much of the iconic shit you love so much is actually whole heartedly derivative as much as those remakes you hate.
>(among other things)
And those other things are a bit more important for said longevity but again like a shizo you are you have completely ran away from the original argument.
>So are you anti-porn?
So you are okay with trannies in movies?
Okay, could have fooled me.
>Oh, you're one of those
It took you 3 posts to get it? That's rough.
>about his movies 50 years later...
And you are 50 years complaining about what his movies led to while praising the guy, for his degenerate outing with his faggot friends.
>If the movie is good, sure
But that's completely subjective, you idiot. This makes every single movie that you scream woke ar completely acceptable.
>ONE of the best INDIE filmmakers
Now I know you have not watched his movies. He is not a good filmmaker. His mainstream movies exposed his absolute lack of talent.
>NIGGER, TRANNY, MODERN MOVIESARE TOO WOKE, SAVE ME BASED 70S WITH ITS GAY PORN AND DRAG QUEENS
Not a single shred of awareness.
>And what am I fighting against? Remakes/reboots.
Sure buddy, crtikal nigger watcher is completely fine with woke actually.

>>212977622
every time i see one of you schizos i'm reminded that i'm on the right side on all this

>>212977622
>>Gladiator isn't a remake you fucking faggot
>The Fall of the Roman Empire
nta, but that's not a remake

they just share similarities

>>212977280
>don't know that this entire conversation was about remakes/reboots and you somehow morphed that into "You like John Waters
Lmao disingenuous bitch, who pretends that when he was moaning about cultural decay, he actually meant the "tremendous" impact of remaking action movies in 2010s.
Don't beat yourself too hard. And watch more movies.
I have a feeling that you have zero idea that half of the movies you deem original are actually remakes or just deviation of already existing ideas from 20 years ago.
Also, watch actual indie filmmakers.
Everyone knows why John Waters movies are so vastly remember and it's not filmmaking.

>ITT RLM butthurt

>>212972257
>exposed anti billionaire and anti fascist regime
What did she mean by this?

>>212972084 (OP)
Fucking jeets man

>>212977679
>they just share similarities
Just a little similarity of having the identical plot of Commodus going insane because is his father Arelius was about to choose sucsessor to be a general but dying before he is able to announce it. Making the general flee and then through events out of his control return to Rome and fight Commoduss in 1 on 1 duel.
Sure, he is not the Gladiator but to pretend these are some fucking surface level similarities disqualifies some of the actual remakes from being such.
The point was that "hecking quotable and and culturaly superior to nasty remakes of today" is actually a derivative remake itself.

>>212977676
On the side of a sloppa YouTube culture warrior, who has never seen a film outside of his comfort orbit of 15 directors and franchise movies?
Fight on.

>>212977475
Fixed

>>212973083
you know he's like 58yo right?
MFer that age obsessing over capeshit.

>>212972117
what's the matter? didn't pass the l'école primaire?

>>212972084 (OP)
Boring, uninspired guy creates boring, uninspired youtube content

>>212978196
i'm not the guy you're screaming at, but when i see a schizo screaming at their monitor at 3 am on a work day i know i've made some correct choices in my life

>>212978170
lots of movies have similarities. star wars is like the hidden fortress, but it's not a remake. gladiator is actually adapted from a 1958 book (fall of the roman empire, a movie that came out in 1964, isn't based on this book). you're grasping here

>>212972257
I hate fat women so much.

>>212974246
The person you're replying to is likely a 50-year-old transvestite who identifies as a 15-year-old.
They are mentally ill and will defend corporations making shitty products like their lives depend on it.

>>212972978
>Brie Larson complaining which has now given way to Rachel Zegler complaining.
Both of them are now finished in Hollywood because the audiences rejected them.
>Everything is bad, nothing is new, only he doesn't watch enough other films, he just watches Disney films to get mad over.
I see plenty of people in this thread making this same claim that everything outside of Marvel and Disney is actually amazing, but they don't give any examples...

>>212979394
Dunc is amazing and I don't care about the rest. There's your example.

>>212973395
>I have a cinema subscription card. I pay a fee every month and see as many films as I like. I watch drama, horror, old and new films
I torrent movies for free and watch a different movie every day. Hollywood is fucking cooked.

>>212979446
>Dunc is amazing
What low standards you have.
Completely unremarkable CGI slopfest.

>>212972413
why don't movie makes make good movies like every generation used to, instead?
Or d you just want to watch bad movies and get angry when someone notice they are bad movies?

>>212972455
Because modern shit movies all have the same set of problems?
It would be true even if faggotubers said it

>>212972084 (OP)
Based Drinker really got the shills oinking lmao.

>>212972551
Are yo uarguing that that's not the truth?
>>212972611
>I can’t believe people can watch this shit
He puts in simple words what many people think and he's more entertaining than the actual movies.
Grew tired of that ages ago. I can tell by myself that modern media are shit

>>212972774
>grifter
= youtuber who say think I, a leftist, don't like to hear

>>212972280
>how culture has stagnated
Midwit alert

>>212972961
>In the 90s if they made 100 new movies in a year, 1 of them might be memorable or have a great line or character. Now they make 70 reboots/remakes and 30 new movies so the odds of something memorable being created is very low.
More likely:
there were 100 talents back then, and 1000 movie were made. The odds of enough talents getting together in a single project was relatively high
there are still 100 talents now, but 100000 movies are made, and the best scenario is you get 1 talent in your movie, drowned in a sea of monkeys
Numbers are random obviously, but you get the point
There is also the fact that the industry now is incompatile with creativity and doesn't cultivate talents

>>212979446
>DUNC
lmao no

>>212979782
This industry is now for children and manchildren.

>>212977538
>i'll never understand how shad went from a reddit sperg version of lindybeigo to a griftertuber LMAO
It's called selling the fuck out for cash.
>also a father+husband with a mortgage to pay
Dear GOD imagine this disgusting manchild being your dad. No wonder women are whores and men are weak.

>>212972084 (OP)
Ya Boi Zach was right about this guy

>>212979882
It's for the new acritical audience
In a way the industry has been very succesfull at creating that kind of audience, but they fucked up becasue now they are left with people with no loyality who both criticize and praise everything

>>212979882
It's for middle-aged women and men with zero self-respect or standards.

>>212972084 (OP)
>that's all I've got for you today, go away goy

>212978215
>nerdrotic
Jumped the shark with the: "I don't care Trump regularly visited Epstein's island I support him no matter what he does".
>Chis Gore
Jackass amoral alcoholic druggie, but like all fraudulent Hollywood types he's able to be pretend to be a real person.
>DDayCobra
Retarded hillbilly who is so fucking stupid he's the only alt-lite reviewer RLM quoted in one of their videos.
>heelvsbabyface
Buffoonish low IQ retard famous for his chris-chan tier chimp outs. His one contribution to humanity is becoming a basedjak.
>RK outpost
This nigger is so desperate for Superman 2025 to be a John Carter tier bomb it's getting funny.
>Xray Girl
Literal pick-me-girl, and that's the only reason people listen to her cause it ain't her bland ass takes.
>Chrissie Mayr
Turned on one of her videos once, got hit with a tsunami of cringe when she unironically started with a reddit take: "This movie was the most movie of all time".

>>212979782
I'd say it's more bureaucratic bloat.
Bureaucrats and bean-counter types don't like artists (actual imaginative artist), as artists are unpredictable to a degree. And they've effectivily pushed them out or boxed them in to such a degree nothing is made.

>>212980363
Yeah all those corpos are all in search of the holy grail: the mono-audience who only demands the mono-product
they have been trying to bypass the impredictable human element for ages

>>212972084 (OP)
Those kind of videos are his best ones, he doesn't say anything goundbreaking but it's well done and fairly good problems summaries.
His reviews are dogshit tho

>>212979394
>I see plenty of people in this thread making this same claim that everything outside of Marvel and Disney is actually amazing, but they don't give any examples..
No one made the claim that everything is amazing, not one. The claim being made is that yes, a lot of crap is being made but that doesn't mean nothing good is ever made, it is hard to find good when the focus and discussion is ALWAYS on the bad, especially because anger sells, clickbait gets clicks and culture wars keeps ticking over.

Culture is super competitive now because it isn't a box office battle between two movies is a battle between every form of entertainment. So people's expectations are high.

You want examples but as it has been said, whatever someone says is good by any metric (made money, liked by audiences or critics, won awards) you'll say is bad, woke or something else. You want examples but you'll dismiss them.

You think everything is shit and it's impossible to argue with you because nothing will ever be accepted by you.

I hate how kids watch this crap and are just given opinions on movies instead of watching movies and forming their own opinion.

>>212980251
>friereddit

If you ventured out of corporate/commercial cinema you wouldn't have these problems. I agree the standard throw on and have fun film is far worse but there's loads of good movies still.

>>212972084 (OP)
>There's no Star Wars or Lord of the Rings of this generation
Harry Potter and the Dullest Franchise

>>212981497
Again, where are the good things being made?

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls069558266/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls076329002/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls042396333/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls062528376/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls062528376/

In any one of just those five years, there are significantly better movies than anything coming out in the last decade. Most of the small budget movies coming out now are fucking trash.

>>212972280
>I KEEP WATCHING POPSLOP AND NOTHING GIVES ME A DOPAMINE RUSH ANYMORE WHY IS MY CULTURE FAILING ME

He should see a shrink. He may just be chronically depressed.

>>212973899
>whataboutism

I really couldn't disagree harder. Superman felt very popcorn but it had a lot of heart. Meanwhile Thunderbolts has decent emotional depth to each character and is a very small movie; literally 3-5 locations. Both are incredibly memorable and honestly left me impressed after 5+ solid years of absolute bottom of the barrel superhero sewage.

The only one of these sloptubers I respect is that guy who complains about games not being masculine anymore. He has the guts to just call stuff gay instead of hiding behind the Fox News approved buzz words.

>>212973661
Ha

>>212972084 (OP)
>Why modern movies suck
Because the people making them hate your fucking guts. You're a threat that could make them lose everything. They would kill most of you if they thought they could get away with it without being revenge killed themselves.

>>212981895
>Both are incredibly memorable
Imagine not only thinking this, but actually expressing this opinion on a public forum.

>>212981971
Very adult of you anon, you showed that capeshitter. How's your girlfriend?

>>212981844
Did you read my post? Whatever I say is good by any metric you'll say is trash. You even primed the argument by saying small budget is mostly trash now. It'll be a knee jerk reaction and you know it.

>>212972974
80a and 90s were
Distinct

>>212981960
Lmao. Dude everyone hates you. You’re racist, sexist and are too stupid and cowardly to not have an opinion that’s not approved by your online hug box. Sam Peckinpah would kick your ass if he saw you.

>>212973044
How can people make fun of broccoli hair and shit and still think kids these days have no identity?

It's okay to grow old and not know all these things but good god.

>>212982005
No retard, lefty bootlickers like you are hated as well, everyone would turn on them if the public gained awareness of their crimes, simple as.

>>212981998
So you've got nothing to the point where you don't even have the guts to put a single suggestion forward.
You lack the strength to put forward even the smallest argument.

>>212981985
I'm married.

>>212982060
What YouTuber assigned this opinion to you? Or did you get it the old fashion way of being groomed on /pol/

>>212981971
I really don't care what you think, your just some faggot mulatto probably half my age who thinks exclusively in memes. You couldn't for a coherent digestion of a film with a fucking gun to your head, but please put one there now.

>>212982173
It came to me in a dream.

>>212982128
Why do people lie on the internet? Literally no one believes you.

>>212982173
Unlike the left who are groomed by major corporations and drag queens into accepting an alternative version of reality where everything is actually amazing.

>>212972084 (OP)
reminder yms DESTROYED him and drinker was too pussy to reply so he got mauler to defend him

>>212977538
KEK Shad is a faggot, shills his shitty AI art meanwhile gets mogged by his more popular brother Jazza who is an infinitely more talented artist.

>>212977475
Where's Doomcock and HvB?

>>212982215
Ah yes. The sculptors of the left, mega corporations. lol read a book

>>212981895
Here here. You are not alone fellow taste haver.

>>212982291
>Read a book written by a Jew funded by Jewish bankers.
Fucking retard.

>>212982206
Keep coping, brownoid.

>>212982114
Because you know, deep down, that I'm right. You know that saying you like something is pointless. Because everything exists to drag it down. Because wherever metric I use to say something is good, you'll use the opposite.

Hating stuff is easy. Thinking everything is shit is easy. Not looking for good and complaining constantly is easy. Trying is hard. You're a coward because you're trapped in a singular narrative you'll never escape from.

If I name 5 movies, you'll say, that's not enough. If I say it made money, you'll say money doesn't matter. If I say critics like it, you'll say critics are fags. If I say audiences like it, you'll say audiences are dumb. Or you'll just declare it as woke. You won't give anything a fair shot.

Imagine your "job" being complaining like a bitch about Hollywood slop movies. This is peak numale shit.

>>212979612
You know they're seething when they start throwing around words like 'grifter'

>>212982484
That's a lot of cope and obfuscation just to conclude that you won't stand by your convictions.

>>212982694
Grifter on the right = someone who goes against the establishment corporate messaging and relies on the public for financial support.

Hard-working leftist = receives money from the government via NGO's and takes corporate money to say things they don't believe.

>>212982509
As embarrassing as being a shill is that at least has precedent in advertising. This is subsidized whining.

Everyone who consumes and makes this crap is on SSRIs which is why it's all so bad.

>why things suck
Technology -- it destroys creativity by making things easier, which then prevents the brain from developing the necessary neural pathways required for creating innovative and interesting things. For when the hard work is removed from any creative process, the results will always diminish in quality. It's a phenomenon we've seen in handwriting, with people today writing at a legible level of what a 5th grader did in the 80s/90s; or in architecture, where we went from grandiose and gothic that lasted centuries, to generic, grey coffin boxes which start falling apart within a half-decade after being erected.

Exacerbating this is globalism, which adds the imperative of making things more universally appealing; as distinct from staying true to the creative vision, which often has strong cultural influences. The final nail in the coffin is the polluting of creativity with politics -- something that, in and of itself is a destructive force; coupled with all these other factors, whoever, is the coup de grâce to creativity.

Thus, entertainment -- be it film, video games, music etc. -- has diminished to the point where people may as well just do prompt themselves using A. I.... Which, some "conspiracists" might argue, has been the intention all along.

The problem with "modern" movies is that they are not allowed to take any risks. At least not in theory. They have to be focus tested to death, be a part of a franchise or a shitty reboot of something much better.
The stories have to be written in a way AI could easily do it (because god forbid you might bring in personality), the effects on which most of these films heavily rely on are made by the cheapest indian studio they can find and the characters have to be as bland as humanly possible. They then use current day politics as a crutch in the hopes that it will make their movie relevant for at least 2 weeks because even they know noone wants to see their crap 2 years down the line anyway.
Hollywood killing itself is the best thing that could ever happen because it shows everyone else how not to do things in the future

>>212972200
>grifter
>all rightwingers are just pretending to not be leftists
>communism and wokeness is so obviously good that there can be no genuine opposition
>that's why kamala lost and there's a huge audiance for rightwing content
How does this make any sense, reddit comrade?

>>212982934
>Not liking movies is right wing

What’s his tax policy?

>>212976131
Pray tell, what is the age range of those espousing this opinion? For anyone who says that something like Alien (1979) has been equalled or surpassed by anything in the modern era, surely has an I. Q. lower than their age -- however old they are.

>>212972257
>thank you for saving le squirrels
>butchers her kid at 9 months and virtue signals about it

>>212982943
>not liking nu-western movies is rightwing

>>212982909
>The problem with "modern" movies is that they are not allowed to take any risks.
This is only a small component, as budgets and the gamble taken by studios has always existed. Sure, the absurd money-laundering going on with these $200M~$300M CGI shlocks does make mass appeal an absolute imperative... But, then the question becomes: Why do they no longer appeal to these masses? Issuing from that, whatever the reason for the disconnect is (spoiler: the products are trash), why not instead re-focus on lower budget, "riskier" ventures, and/or staying true to source material at the expense of trying to please everyone at once...?

>"It's not about money; it's about changing culture."
>Bob Iger, 2024
>re. Disney losing ~$900M from successive box office failures

>>212975849
>being new
Go away

>>212982947
>Movies peaked 50 years ago
Sad outlook

>>212983053
To be fair, I think studios back then took more risks, especially when it came to the kinds of movies they made and it feels like they weren't afraid of making higher budget films that might not be for everyone ("Event Horizon" comes to mind).
Also, it feels like the stories got "dumber". Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy a shitty action flick with a paper thin story as much as the next guy but these films never pretended to contain some sort of deep, meaningful message.
Most capeshit stories are on par (and sometimes worse) than the stories of action films back then but they for some reason deliver that drivel with pathos fitting a Shakespeare play.

>>212972084 (OP)
I thought he liked Superman

>>212983053
>the absurd money-laundering going on with these $200M~$300M CGI shlocks

I think it's more related to tax avoidance scams than money laundering.
>Invest "$300m" into CGI movie made in India.
>Oh, it lost $200m
>That's a big tax break for you Mr Sheckleberg, better luck next time.

Rinse and repeat. A lot of this seems to have taken off around the era of Uwe Boll and his German tax loophole scam and seems to have gone mainstream. The whole industry is now about farming tax write-offs for investors.

>>212978998
One to one plot and characters is not a "similarity"
>adapted from a 1958 book
Now that's grasping. "Those who are about to die" has nothing to do with the movie story, aside from both having gadiators.
If you seriously considering this an adaptation then I surely can consider it a remake too.
Furthermore, you are adamant on ignoring the point of me bringing it up once more. The iconic, original, creative movie that idiot pretends Hollywood can't do anymore is siphoned wholeheartedly from 60s history epic and is nothing but a derivative rehash.

>>212983319
If you eat McDonald's you can enjoy it while also acknowledging that it wasn't the best meal you ever had and is completely unmemorable. Nobody ever says:

"remember that time we ate Burger King five years ago? That was amazing"

Modern movies are the cinematic equivalent of fast food, they're enjoyable enough while you eat them and you feel completely empty an hour later.

>>212972280
Wow i never thought of it that way before. Maybe watching more YouTube reviews of mainstream film will help.

>>212981497
Nothing good is being made, and it has been liek that for more than a decade

>>212972551
weeb niggas best niggas

>>212982005
Are you talking about leftists?
Because everyone voted against them

>>212982291
Literally yes

>>212974578
Signal boosting your effort post

>>212972280
such an obvious truth and there's 10 replies countersignaling it
/tv/ is a pseud board

>>212982291
Name a book written in the last 2 decades.

Just out of curiosity skipped through the video due to thumbnail to see if he and his group are still seething about Avatar. And wouldn't you know it. The absolute vitriol these fags display because it didn't bomb is marvelous. Of course the only cope mechanism is to proclaim nobody (meaning they) talks about so it's irrelevant.

>>212974145

>>212983791
Avatar sucks and in an ideal world bad movies would bomb

>>212983864
Too bad troglodyte grfiters like him don't decide what people like and watch. Now go and cope how you never heard anyone talking about Avatar irl so it's just giant psyop made out of fake tickets from China. Or whatever the fuck the cope is now.

Everybody is this thread is getting anally raped.

The audience doesn't turn out for risks or mid budget films so the industry keeps doubling down with remakes or reboots or franchises. And yeah the argument is, if it is good people will come, but in actuality, whether or not something is good doesn't matter. Wednesday, the Netflix show, is basic as fuck but went viral in part due to a TikTok dance craze. The problem is marketing is fucking dead so even if you make an alright film, no one will see it so they focus on known properties.

>>212973271
I'm not a zoomer and I hate it too. I would actually like some good movies you know.

>>212974118
>choice paralysis
shitty choice paralysis, there are hundreds of shows being made and 90% have a single season
So even if I end up liking something there I'll get annoyed at how unfinished it is.

>>212984194
But you're in this thread

>>212974217
I can't wait for a whole new brand of holocaust movies being made, with a very different perspective kek

>>212974438
CD agrees which obviously means you got your opinion from him and no other place in the universe. You bot.

>>212979782
>There is also the fact that the industry now is incompatile with creativity and doesn't cultivate talents
You forgot to mention how nowadays producers and suits get involved any chance they get and barely a director can even do what they want.

>>212982291
Anybody got a pic from that Occupy Wall Street float with a bunch of faggots on top and sponsored by Lehman or something?

>>212983938
>don't decide what people like and watch.
Of course not, but quality is objective and avatar is objectively bad.
In a better world, that would be reflected by the boxoffice
and yes, nobody remember what that shit is even about

>>212983444
>>adapted from a 1958 book
>Now that's grasping.
it's 100% true. you are really in denial.
> The iconic, original, creative movie that idiot pretends Hollywood can't do anymore is siphoned wholeheartedly from 60s history epic and is nothing but a derivative rehash.
lots of movies have similarities.

>>212985050
I didn''t forget.
The industry is rotten. They went so big that what limit their further expansion is only people not buying indiscriminately (no matter how much criican thinking an tastes deevolved), and they are going mad trying to bypass the "problem", as if that was possible

>CD: everything is samey now
>also CD: I want movies to go back to being how they used to be
He isn't upset at stuff being samey, he just wants stuff to be samey that fits his politics

>>212985660
Being against political wokeshit isn't a political stance. It's jsut normality

als your greentext doesn't make any sense. Yo uare just angry that nromal people rejected your religion

>>212985551
>it's 100% true
Are you just trying to brute-force a lie by repeating it?
Please, lay out how Gladiator is an adaptation of it.
The book has no central character who resembles Maximus. Nor does it ever feature the Gladiator storyline of an exiled general coming back to kill the emperor that got rid of the guy because he was afraid of succession being passed to him. You know what movie does feature such story line? The Fall of the Roman Empire.
>lots of movies have similarities
I have already established that they have much more than similarities. You can choose to ignore them this will not make Gladiator any less derivative of that movie and being a borderline uncredited remake.

>>212972084 (OP)
>hating on Avatar again
I will never understand terminal online peoples hatred for this movie.
Its fun and I actually do remember some lines form it like "I see you!" or some characters like Jake Sully.
In fact Jake Sully is probably the best depiction of a father and masculinity we have gotten in a big movie for over a decade

>>212985812
>Please, lay out how Gladiator is an adaptation of it.
"The screenplay, initially written by Franzoni, was inspired by the 1958 Daniel P. Mannix novel Those About to Die."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)
basically they didn't want to pay for the book rights.
>I have already established that they have much more than similarities.
star wars has hidden fortress and wizard of oz. lots of similarities.
>You can choose to ignore them this will not make Gladiator any less derivative of that movie and being a borderline uncredited remake.
high functioning autism

>>212985956
>basically they didn't want to pay for the book rights.
Anon, I know you've read Wikipedia and you are basically talking out of your ass. I'm asking you to lay out how it is an adaptation. What he took from the movie is the gladiator stuff, but the gladiator stuff isn't the overarching plot. There are no characters, plot lines, or events that in any way are similar, unless you are seriously pretending that Those Who Are About to Die invented gladiator fights in fiction. When he says "inspired," he means he read a book about gladiators and decided to write a movie about gladiators, not to adapt the book. Please lay out in detail what precise plot details are taken from Those About to Die?
>lots of similarities.
Again, we have established you have not read the book, and now I'm doubting you've watched the 1964 movie too. These are not surface level: two guys traveling somewhere with vaguely similar purposes. These are a pair of two identical sets of characters having a succession crisis because the protagonist was about to be put on the throne only to be fucked over and exiled.
>high functioning autism
None-existing argument, banking on continued ignoring of clearly presented copycatting.

>>212986391
>What he took from the movie is the gladiator stuff
I meant "what he took from the book."

>>212986391
>I'm asking you to lay out how it is an adaptation.
i never read the book, doesn't change the fact that gladiator is more of an adaptation than it is a remake. if anything gladiator is also "inspired" by the fall of the roman empire
high functioning autism.
>When he says "inspired," he means he read a book about gladiators and decided to write a movie about gladiators, not to adapt the book
so maybe ridley scott wanted to make a gladiator movie, not do a remake of the fall of rome?
>These are not surface level: two guys traveling somewhere with vaguely similar purposes.
clearly you've never seen hidden fortress or star wars
>None-existing
none
i would also say gladiator has heavy elements of spartacus. movies borrow from each other
again, high functioning autism mixed with ocd. you will fiercely insist that something is a remake, but then ignore info that says gladiator has many elements in it from other sources

>>212986669
>I don't know what's the book is even about but I know it's plot elements adapted in this movie
The fact that it wasn't embarrassing to type this shit is very telling about your development.
>if anything gladiator is also "inspired" by the fall of the roman empire
Yes? That was never question, the whole point, my developmentally challenged idiot, was to showcase to that other idiot that the supposed original movie is as derivative as the remakes he hates. I'm sorry you got triggered by the word remake in relation to Gladiator, but if you actually had watched the movie, it is undeniable how much is directly lifted from the 1964 movie.
>so maybe ridley scott wanted to make a gladiator movie, not do a remake of the fall of rome?
First of all, he didn't write it. It's a very peculiar choice to have a gladiator movie but then borrow half of its story from another movie so that it would fit why he gets to Rome.
>clearly you've never seen hidden fortress or star wars
You are clearly exaggerating the overlap of those movies compared to Gladiator and 1964. We've established that you are disingenuous and you are willing to scream that something is an adaptation of something when you haven't even read it.
>i would also say gladiator has heavy elements of Spartacus
Spartacus did not invent gladiator fights in fiction either, which is the only plot element you can point to.
>again, high functioning autism mixed with ocd
Furthermore, no argument beyond repeating lies and doubling down when called out.
>but then ignore info that says gladiator has many elements in it from other source
Meanwhile, you pretend that half of the movie plot and characters being surgically inserted is "nohingburger similarities"

I sort of understand why you are so opaque about it. Because, like the book, you watched Fall of Roman Empire on Wikipedia.

>>212987022
>The fact that it wasn't embarrassing to type this shit is very telling about your development.
autism again
>was to showcase to that other idiot that the supposed original movie is as derivative as the remakes he hates
i don't know who the fuck you're talking about. this thread has over 300 replies. autism
>First of all, he didn't write it.
i never said he did, where did i say that. he's a director, i said he "wanted to make". most of your arguments are just you reeeeeing about something that didn't happen
>It's a very peculiar choice to have a gladiator movie but then borrow half of its story from another movie so that it would fit why he gets to Rome.
same can be said of star wars
>You are clearly exaggerating the overlap of those movies compared to Gladiator and 1964.
you think that because you've never seen them. lucas flat out admitted it. not just that but the editing swipes were borrowed, the elements of flash gordon serials, the list is endless. media borrows. autismo
>Furthermore, no argument beyond repeating lies and doubling down when called out.
you: "this is a remake, but star wars isn't, and just ignore all the other rome films and the book that inspired gladiator'
>Meanwhile, you pretend that half of the movie plot and characters being surgically inserted is "nohingburger similarities"
i never said nothingburger. you seem to have autism, ocd, and maybe a bit of bpd
gladiator took just as much from the book than it did from the fall of the roman empire

>>212987022
to completely disprove your point
in 2005 michael bay made a movie called "the island", about clones for the rich that are on a secret island to be used as backup organs. this is similar to a 1979 movie called "parts: the clonus horror". you know what happened? the makers of "parts" sued the makers of "the island" and they settled out of court
if "gladiator" is an unauthorized remake of "the fall of the roman empire", why were there no lawsuits put forth by the makers of "the fall of the roman empire"?

>>212987567
>autism
Yes, I guess it's autism to try to argue that the movie is adaption of something when you haven't even read the supposed thing it's adapting.
>i don't know who the fuck you're talking about
Autism? This chain of replies wasn't that complicated. I'm sorry your dumbbell brain got confused and triggered over me calling Gladiator a remake.
>i never said he did, where did i say that
We were talking about writing process of the movie. What else did you mean then? Scott didn't will the movie and script into existence. If you actually read the Wikipedia page aside from that one line, you'd know that the script has been reworked multiple times for ever decades.
>you think that because you've never seen them
No, because I can see the difference between borrowing structure and borrowing plot and characters into 1 to 1 scale.
But as I said you are a disingenuous nigger.
>"this is a remake, but star wars isn't
I have 10 times presented the shameless borrowing they did and you once again are ignoring the main point of showcasing the derivativeness of the supposed original movies.
>i never said nothingburger
But you said irrelevant similarities, you hype fixated retarded who is ingoing the main point.

>>212987691
>if "gladiator" is an unauthorized remake of "the fall of the roman empire", why were there no lawsuits put forth by the makers of "the fall of the roman empire"?
Because the production company responsible for Fall of the Roman Empire went bankrupt right after the release of the movie. Maybe read the wikipedia more.
>to completely disprove your point
The fact that you thought that this is some fucking gotcha is hilarious.
Watch more movies.