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Anonymous No.212973449 >>212973493 >>212973710 >>212973936 >>212974084 >>212974966 >>212975008 >>212975049 >>212975146
What the fuck is wrong with J.J. Abrams?
Anonymous No.212973487 >>212973909 >>212976785
>alternate timeline
who gives a shit
Anonymous No.212973493 >>212976224
>>212973449 (OP)
JJ Abrams is a hack.
Anonymous No.212973710 >>212973853 >>212973904 >>212974117 >>212974168 >>212974213 >>212976300
>>212973449 (OP)
He unironically, no joke, not even memeing does not understand how space works. It's astounding that multi-billion dollar science fiction franchises would give him the reigns to run them into the ground with sheer stupidity.
Anonymous No.212973853
>>212973710
yeah I was in that thread yesterday too
Anonymous No.212973904 >>212976174
>>212973710
>if you can't write a better story, then just reuse the old one, but make it BIGGER!
This is the definition of hack writing.
Anonymous No.212973909 >>212973968 >>212974019
>>212973487
why is 2009 enterprise so damn big?
Anonymous No.212973936
>>212973449 (OP)
Why are they building a spaceship in somebody's corn field. Wouldn't they build it at Starfleet HQ?
Anonymous No.212973968
>>212973909
Because the Enterprise D is made up of one hallway they can shoot from every angle at a cheap budget price.
Anonymous No.212974019 >>212974512 >>212975051
>>212973909
Because the other versions of the Enterprise are insanely small.

A ship with a crew in the hundreds that could spend years at a time with no logistical support while also being a battleship and a mobile science lab would be enormously larger than any of the pre-JJ version of the Enterprise.
Anonymous No.212974084
>>212973449 (OP)
>What the fuck is wrong with J.J. Abrams?
Did "Early Life" not explain enough?
Anonymous No.212974117 >>212974164 >>212974184 >>212975081
>>212973710
>Science fiction
But the Star Wars and Star Trek movies arent scifi, they are just hollywood action flicks.
Anonymous No.212974163 >>212974226 >>212976133
ANY COMPETENT starship builder would have basically a WIRE FEED of materials to the ship.

Imagine it this way.
You're building in SPACE in Star Trek.
Your main limits on building are MATERIALS and EMPLOYEES.

YOUR SHIP is built like a scale model with prefab parts. So what's the most efficient means of assembling a ship... in space... with speed and accuracy? LOTS OF WIRES.

If you're not building like Hasbro Transformer toys, then you're building like a model kit. Now imagine guide wires connecting every chunk layer to another. Like a disassembled sandwich with 4 wires linking all sandwich layers together.

Now you can reel in components easily and accurately. The biggest danger is doing it too quickly. So you'd need a gyroscope array to cancel momentum to prevent the equivalent of dropping a bunch of dinner plates on the assemblers. But with the right attachment points, you could reel in, rotate and easy assemble like a cheap rubberband tensegrity toy (push up puppet).

Scooby-Doo 1977 Push Puppet
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLmi_LffQ0

Now imagine assembling the saucer using this trick. Pull in all bottom plates, you get a quickly assembled bowl shape. Note that "WELDING" in Star Trek is no longer is edge melting, by heating & cooling, it can be genuine molecular fusing as if the material was one solid substance since you can literally teleport it into an unbroken structure. In fact, like human skin, you could merge multiple layers of complex woven structures into a seamless perfectly structural material. Feasibly, with even crude teleportation tech, you could gently unbond the molecular density of a wall to reduce it to wet clay density, stir it with a wooden stick, then resolidify the wall with all molecules as dense as titanium or better. Why WELD when you could just stir or shape like clay?
Anonymous No.212974164
>>212974117
No. Star Trek is the definition of Science Fiction and has been for over half a century. You're a moron to pretend otherwise.
Anonymous No.212974168 >>212974191 >>212975101 >>212976067
>>212973710
Star Wars has always been fantasy. I cant believe people still dont understand this.
Anonymous No.212974184
>>212974117
Well he helped make Star Trek action schlock. You can point to a few examples of previous bad Star Trek movies, mostly the TNG ones, but JJ was really the driving force that just made them dumb action movies.
Anonymous No.212974191
>>212974168
shut up, idiot. go back to sucking jj's little dick
Anonymous No.212974213
>>212973710
Did they even make an attempt to explain this
Anonymous No.212974226
>>212974163
oh my god
Anonymous No.212974279
didn't he stop getting work after how bad Star Wars 9 was?
Anonymous No.212974512
>>212974019
The Enterprise D is stupid big
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwx5uB0pyhQ&pp=ygURZW50ZXJwcmlzZSBkIHNpemU%3D
Anonymous No.212974966
>>212973449 (OP)
>He lacks Faith of The Heart
Anonymous No.212975008
>>212973449 (OP)
It was a solid emotional visual for the scene, but yeah it’s retarded to think that a star ship would be built on a planet
Anonymous No.212975031
Ah yes, the scientifically sound star trek before Abrams.
Anonymous No.212975049
>>212973449 (OP)
It's a mystery.
Anonymous No.212975051
>>212974019
>A ship with a crew in the hundreds that could spend years at a time with no logistical support while also being a battleship and a mobile science lab would be enormously larger than any of the pre-JJ version of the Enterprise.
an aircraft carrier could literally fulfill all of these requirements, and they're tiny compared to kirk's enterprise
Anonymous No.212975081
>>212974117
The movies became action oriented during Khan yes, but there was still an attempt to present theoretically plausible science ideas in the shows for a while
Anonymous No.212975101
>>212974168
Science Fantasy
Anonymous No.212975146
>>212973449 (OP)
I think all you autists missed point of jjbrams trek that it was the far future but it still had an element of being grounded like showing how they still grow food the same way. The same truth remains. Nothing ever happens. Unless your Vulcan.
Anonymous No.212975218 >>212975620 >>212975768 >>212976184
JJ Abrams is a hack, I dont understand how so many people were trusted to give him control of so many franchises which he eventually all ruined.
Anonymous No.212975620
>>212975218
he's good at appealing to the lowest common denominator
do remember that LOST was considered a masterpiece to normies, despite the fact that JJ was making it up as he went along, nothing got resolved, and it turned out nothing mattered because it was all a dream
Anonymous No.212975768 >>212976041
>>212975218
Jew hater
Anonymous No.212976041 >>212976184
>>212975768
you'll call him that, but you won't call him wrong
Anonymous No.212976067
>>212974168
SW was space fantasy until 2015 when it became Earth-based sci-fi-action movies in space.
Anonymous No.212976133
>>212974163
> falls apart when you enter the atmosphere
> entire crew dies
Now what
Anonymous No.212976174 >>212976285
>>212973904
Star Wars shitters say this then give ROTJ a pass
Anonymous No.212976184
>>212976041
right my bad
>>212975218
Nigga you wrong
Anonymous No.212976224
>>212973493
ANH
>Hold on, I need to make the calculations for the jump to lightspeed
Everything after
>Ready.....NOW!
Star Wars peaked in 1977
Anonymous No.212976285
>ray guns, robots, spaceships, little green men, FTL
>all clearly sci-fi
>classic hero's journey
>magic sword, wizards, saving the princess from a dark tower
>clear fantasy elements
>somehow people still think it's pure fantasy though
I will never understand this forced distinction. Yeah, it's science fantasy, but fantasy is fictional, ergo it's also science fiction.
>>212976174
ROTJ is inherently a different story, and you'd know that if you actually bothered to watch the movies. It has similar story beats, but it's meant to in order to show character growth and advance the plot.
Anonymous No.212976300
>>212973710
>some X-wings managed to blow this up by doing a trench run along the equator
literally lmaoing
Anonymous No.212976785
>>212973487
He destroyed Romulus, idiot
Anonymous No.212976885 >>212977068
It's amazing that not only did this man destroy Star Trek, but also Star Wars. How the hell was that allowed to happen? I mean Disney saw what he did to Star Trek and then said, huh, let's put this retard in charge of Star Wars now too!
Anonymous No.212977068
>>212976885
bean counters who didn't know the difference between the properties saw that Star Trek (2009) made a bunch of money and made normies interested in an old property, and assumed JJ could do the same exact thing for Star Wars. As to your question, "How the hell was this allowed to happen?", the answer is invariably, because nobody in charge cared.