Thread 212973983

Is he right?

But they took out all the america stuff

Uh huh, just like Ant Man flopped because of COVID, anything to avoid taking responsibility for your failures

>>212973983 (OP)
Full statement

>>212973983 (OP)
what a retarded
t. not american

I don't know if that's the reason, but most countries are pissed off at america because of tarifs. US allies getting hit with the threat of tarifs is retarded and helping to elect left-wing politicians across the world because no one likes to be bullied.

So... maybe?

>>212973983 (OP)
>Is he right?
I don't know, is Jurassic Park chinese?

>>212973983 (OP)
But heckin' 4chuds told me international didn't matter...

>>212973983 (OP)
Captain America shutout in China. F4 is tracking bad in China as well and they use to consume all Marvel slop.

>>212973983 (OP)
Does Gunn really change Truth Justice in the American way?

Gunn is not wrong

>>212973983 (OP)
Leftist pedophile doesn't understand that mass migration isn't popular even in third world ethnostates, only in his brainwashed country and Islamic terrorists and Gaza pandering is deeply unpopular because Islam is cancer and Muslims are parasites
Many such cases in the reddit echo chamber

>>212974166
No. it’s never said in the movie

>>212974187
Can you show us the Deadpool and Wolverine numbers real quick?

>>212974189
Why is F4 bombing in the same countries? Hmmm

>>212974219
That was before Trump destroyed our rep

>>212974080
The new jurassic is flopping in China too. Its on track to make less than half of what Jurassic Dominion made in China just 3 years ago

>>212974230
Why are bad movies no one wanted bombing? Hmmm

>>212974219
Trump wasn’t president last year jeet.

>>212974234
>>212974268
Convenient cope, but I'll allow it since you're getting raped nonstop. Now explain Lilo and Stitch.

>>212974248
That explains why you’re all consuming dinoslop nobody wanted. Fuck off you third world subhuman

>>212974248
Then why did Flash do well in Asia?

>>212974230
Because no one wants to watch uberqueer Pedro Pascal in every piece of media made, their costumes are stupid and lame looking and the fantastic 4 are and always will be unpopular heroes carried by their villains
This is what happens and will keep happening because the people making this trash don't like the genre

>>212974314
So there is no anti-american sentiment? How about that.

>>212974308
Lilo and Stitch a capeshit movie?

>>212974268
>Trump wasn’t president last year jeet.
depressing. 3 more years. cant we just elect some ned flanders motherfucker that doesn't get brought up in every conversation?

>>212974345
Is Jurassic World an American capehsit movie?

>>212974347
The anti-american sentiment applies ONLY to capeshit? How frivolous.

>>212974365
In every sense, yes.

>>212974347
Lilo and Stitch crashed and burned in China too

>>212974031
he's crashing out. totally cooked and negative aura farming

>>212974031
Ah yes, the world hates America now because of Trump, but domestically everyone loves America ...because of Trump. What?

>>212973983 (OP)
Yes, but so is the world for hating Americans.

>>212974566
Trump has made other countries dislike all seemingly American products because of his tariffs. Americans still like american products.

>>212974692
What tariffs? What tariffs have ACTUALLY come into effect that are ACTUALLY effecting people to the point they wouldn't see a movie? How MANY countries is this happening in?

>>212974234
>>212974268
Literally only the fattest, most effeminate, most brainwashed freaks are crying about Trump at this point.

>>212974445
Doesn’t surprise me. China is rejecting almost everything now. Which whatever. Fuck China.

>>212974842
I voted for Trump, three times. I can careless if the rest of the world hates the US. Superman is American

>>212973983 (OP)
>Is it my movie being shit that is the problem?
>No. It's that the world hates America right now. That's it. It's why there were no successful American movies during the Bush presidency.

Is there literally anything left us won't sreech about and blame on Trump?

>>212974824
>What tariffs have ACTUALLY come into effect that are ACTUALLY effecting people to the point they wouldn't see a movie?
im sure they have some ching chong version of foxnews over there where they play trump clips nonstop. remember when Oprah mentioned 'mad cow disease' and the price in cattle dropped enough for her to get sued?

>>212974972
>leftist "meme"
>it's shit and communicates nothing
Every time.

Is there literally anything leftists won't sreech about and blame on Trump?
It's so fucking pathetic.

>>212975002
>communicates nothing
maybe to you, dumbass

>>212973983 (OP)
*stubs toe*
>this is drrrrrumpfs fault

>>212973983 (OP)
I can confirm
Fuck americans
next question

The American left once held the worst elements of the right in check. Subverting and destroying the left was pure brilliance. It just allowed for the right to spiral into some tea party retardation monstrosity. There’s no recovering from this.

>>212973983 (OP)
Why is this driving MAGAts insane when it's true?

>>212975002
>>it's shit and communicates nothing
>Every time.
that meme actually got a small chuckle out of me. see, the right will agree with whatever the current statement from trump is...and when he reverses due to dementia or not being able to actually get whatever he wanted passed, they'll say he was just playing 4d chess. im just sitting here wishing for the apocalypse to end both sides. but getting some chuckles in the mean time

>>212974824
People dont want to support American made products like hollywood movies because they associate them with Trump and his restrictive trade policies

>>212974943
Learn American history. What President in the last hundred years has been blitzing countries with tariffs? No, Trump hitting China with 125% tariff has nothing to do with what’s going on. China threatening to ban all US movies got nothing to do with it.

>>212975080
People who watch capeslop do not give a single fuck about "restrictive trade policies" you stupid fucking moron.

>>212975083
>they won't film another 28 ish film in UK
GREAT NEWS

>>212974236
That's still $70m Superman isn't getting from China

>>212975122
I love comic books and free trade. I hope Superman destroys the Jones Act and longshoreman unions in the sequel.

can bayformers get the china money back?

>>212974268
America's reputation was so much better when a barely alive corpse propped up by USAID was president. Superman would have hit 700m international like bomb your country: Maverick did

>>212975159
Of course, Jurassic is a much stronger brand than Superman is. There have been 3 billion dollar Jurassic movies in the lasr decade after all. But its happening with all big Hollywood movies, not just Superman.

>>212974248
Fantastic 4 and super man are getting mostly positive reviews moron

>>212973983 (OP)
>Puts obvious progressive elements into the movie
>Why do people say it's woke
This is a textbook example of woke people not understanding that they're woke. He seriously thinks the message is kindness and not male weakness.

>>212975272
How does Superman exemplify male weakness?

>>212974566
Americans are proud to have such a great president, every other country is seething with jealousy

>>212975287
Cuz he ain’t Christian, trad, or conservative. He’s liberal and communist.

>>212975122
They dont need to know the underlying rationale of Trump's trade policy to dislike it. He is making things cost more in their country, so they refuse to give their money to an american product like a Superhero movie. Thats all

>>212975287
He doesnt. But this abomination of a character that Gunn created, does.

>>212974943
Well if the movie does great in america but awful everywhere else, it kinda raises a question whether it's because of its quality

>>212975305
China is liberal and communist and the movie is flopping there. If anything its doing best in a trad and conservative country like America.

>Guys, you're not helping us at the box office!
>Claims man who constantly makes unhelpfully divisive statements that does not help his box office.

>>212975302
>Americans are proud to have such a great president
a pedophile one?

>>212975346
James Gunn isn't the president.

>>212975305
>>212975322
Elaborate. What specifically about the movie made you feel this way?

>>212975083
>Implying the past, without electricity and Amazon was anything remotely similar to today economically

>>212973983 (OP)
I don't think people hate America significantly more than 10 years ago

>>212974061
Many countries have imposed tariffs on American goods for years yet suddenly when America does the same to them it's "bullying."

>>212975376
The fact he had literal tears streaming down his face.
Oh, and that metamorph literally had tears streaming down his face
Oh right, Lex luthor literally cried as well!

Superman 83% power, flies off to the same fight he just lost at 100% power. Even his robot had to emasculate him by calling him an idiot.
Lois Lane interviewing Superman, emasculating him by being the voice of reason telling him he's on the record.
Clark Kent seething at #Supershit

The women were geniuses while the men were crybaby fucking idiots. You seriously didn't notice this?

>>212975403
No other countries are enacting 100-year-old trade policy. Come the fuck on, anon.

>>212975368
>/pol/tranny unironically defending the pro israel + epstein best friend, drumf
lol lmao even

>>212975287
>>212975322
he made him look weak in some scenes + the trunks
international market want power fantasy tier sloppa and its why they loved MoS so much. Nihilistic dogshit message but it was directed like it was a dragon ball live action movie.

>>212975468
Way to sidestep his point. If you don’t want to receive tariffs then don’t tariff us. Pretty fucking simple.

>>212975244
>But its happening with all big Hollywood movies, not just Superman.
You're absolutely right but Superman's international share is one of the weakest for a Hollywood blockbuster in a long time (besides Wicked). F4 should at least get 45–50% from international

>>212975272
G/pol/PT
>woke woke woke woke woke
Reality
>Minecraft has experienced significant success in China, particularly with its free-to-play version published by NetEase. Over 100 million registered users were reached within the first year of its launch. By May 2020, the game had reached 200 million users in China. As of April 2025, the China Edition of Minecraft has over 800 million registered accounts.
US brand is no longer welcome around the world
>inb4: we don't care
studios care and american films are having a really bad time in China
A Minecraft Movie
>Domestic (44.4%)
>$423,949,195
>International (55.6%)
>$531,200,000
>Worldwide
>$955,149,195

>>212973983 (OP)
No one wants to admit that the MCU released two phases of straight garbage and DC's movies were awful too.
People have no more faith in Superhero movies anymore.

>>212973983 (OP)
Relying on international markets is the problem. China has their own movies and is numba wan

>>212973983 (OP)
It's not like China is boycotting everything and they are holding grudge over NeZha2 bombing internationally.
Snydercult is also huge in China too since they LOVE powerfantasy.

>>212975561
>Chat G/pol/T
Fixed

>>212975518
Tarrifs are probably a good idea if done right but the current ones from the USA don't seem entirely serious or well thought out, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a mix of grandstanding, market manipulation, maybe getting some political concessions from anyone who doesn't call the bluff and of course a little economic warfare against china by causing a heap of uncertainty

>>212975561
How did you miss the point of my post that badly? I'm not talking about China. I'm not talking about a movie flopping or not because it's woke or not. I'm talking about how Gunn is such a retard that he doesn't even recognize his own woke garbage as woke. You're about as intelligent as Gunn, which is to say a drooling low IQ dimwit

>>212974024

>>212974268
>>212974236

>>212974080

Nobody likes you, subhumans.

Nobody needs you and your country of criminals.

China, Russia, Iran, India, Brasil and other brics are able to produce everything the world needs.

Go to hell and die, you shitty subhuman pirates.

Why is it so hard for you Amerigolems to understand that 90% of the world hates you pieces of shit?

>Jurassic is a stronger brand than Superman
How? Sounds like pure cope to me

>>212973983 (OP)
Not really, we just don't wanna see some guy who once played a faggot, in a role that belongs to Henry Cavill.

>>212975462
>The women were geniuses while the men were crybaby fucking idiots. You seriously didn't notice this?
No. Mr. Terrific was the most stoic, smartest character in the movie. Perry White was ordering reporters around with a cigar in every scene. Jimmy Olsen manipulated a bimbo for information. Lois Lane was clearly out of her element whenever she was doing something that wasn't her journalism career. The Engineer did whatever Lex told her. I have honestly no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Are you seriously upset that in one scene Lois asked tough questions like a journalist is supposed to?

>>212975676
>trys to troll
>can't help redditspace and give the game away

>>212975560
Just last year Twisters and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice had more dramatic domestic/international splits. Spiderverse movie had a similar split too

>>212975674
>He seriously thinks the message is kindness and not male weakness.
sure buddy

>>212975676
>China, Russia, Iran, India, Brasil
People might hate America but they hate these just as much

>>212975703
Back to back to back billion dollar movies. And the movies were all bad too. Thats why

>>212974924
Why are you supporting PDFs? Release the Epstein files

Who gives a fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

>>212974106
>they use to consume all Marvel slop
Until Avengers Endgame, just like the USA and the rest of the world

>>212973983 (OP)
Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning
Domestic (33.3%)
$195,807,042
International (66.7%)
$393,000,000

>>212975715
>The two manliest man in the movie were black
>The bimbo jimmy manipulated was a secret genius who outsmarted lex
>Straight up lying about Lois Lane
>The engineer who sacrificed her humanity for love (a traditional male trope) to an abusive individual who cries (a woman trope)
You're an idiot.

>>212975518
Anon, no country has unilateral 20% tariffs on the US or anything close. Trump is an idiot who assumes trade deficits must inherently mean foul play and not because American products are expensive and most countries are too poor to buy them.

>>212974230
Pedro Pascal fatigue, people can't stand his faggot woke ass anymore.

>>212975002
It conveys trump always chickens out

>>212975305
He is trad though? I got a Ted lasso deal to his character.

>>212975334
>China is liberal
This couldn't be further from the truth. Socially speaking the Chinese are hyper-conservative.

>>212975801
Tom Cruise is the real Superman.

>>212975871
I accept your concession. The movie is woke. You're a Gunn cocksucker who is equally blind to observing these woke elements.

>>212975865
They literally kill babies (abortion) in every single province. Explain how they arent liberal

>>212973983 (OP)
Has this happened before? Can people get so angry to seeth in such way?

>>212975802
Lex was crying tears of rage in the end because he was humiliated, not because he's some soft effeminate pussy.

>>212973983 (OP)
Of course he's right. Are esl retards here going to suddenly act like they don't seethe about America every day? What a fucking cope lmao

>>212975915
>Men crying when they're humiliated doesn't make them a pussy
Jesus fucking Christ. I have no words.

>>212975905
They don't even allow gay parades or homosexuals on TV, plus there is a massive expectation for women to become mothers as soon as they turn over 18, they're actively pressured into this by their families. Not to mention that the Chinese actively mock Western performative social justice activism and even have a specific slang for these kind of people.

>>212973983 (OP)
Remember when james gunn was dating melissa stetten?

>>212973983 (OP)
WHO CURSES ISRAEL GOD WILL CURSE

>>212975083
>What President in the last hundred years has been blitzing countries with tariffs?

Herbert Hoover ... and it led directly to the Great Depression.

>>212975950
It goes to show you have never experienced true humiliation.

>>212975992
It goes to show that you're not a man.

>>212975892
You are the most insecure dude I have ever encountered.

>The two manliest man in the movie were black
The titular character who saves the day is white.
>The bimbo jimmy manipulated was a secret genius who outsmarted lex
The bimbo didn't fucking outsmart Lex. The joke is that she's such a ditz that she sent Jimmy the wrong evidence by mistake and it just so happened to contain incriminating documents because she's a selfie-addicted whore.
>Straight up lying about Lois Lane
The second half of the movie is one big "women can't drive" joke every scene Lois is in. She and Jimmy have some contacts that help with intel. That's how journalism works. You have a network of contacts you can lean on to verify rumors.
>The engineer who sacrificed her humanity for love (a traditional male trope) to an abusive individual who cries (a woman trope)
What the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>212975793
Then stop caring about whether a movie makes a billion, because barring inflation it won't happen without the rest of the world

>>212975959
I accept your concession

>azula gets humiliated in her loss and bursts into tears
>firelord ozai gets humiliated and doesn't cry, simply collapses in defeat
See the difference between how a woman handles humiliation and how a man does? For fucks sake, you must be some kind of metrosexual bad actor faggot.

>>212976063
Two genuine questions for you.
1. How old are you?
2. Do you have more male friends or female friends (assuming you have any IRL at all).

>>212975032
>>I am a brown tranny
Yes you are!

>>212973983 (OP)
Bet if they released 1978 Superman it'd do as well at the box office

how does james gunn have time to make movies he wont shut the fuck up every headline is about some new shit he said

>>212973983 (OP)
No, it's because his movie is too woke and simply not good, maybe in America woke ideology is still on the rise, and maybe Americans still love capeslop, but everywhere else the vibe has shifted already, woke "positivity" is not cool anymore, and there's an international phenomenon called capeslop fatigue, people are really tired of the MCU-style superheroes.

>>212974924
>Superman is American
He's an illegal immigrat thoughbeit. He should've been deported years ago.

>>212976158
1. 30
2. More male friends. Who doesn't?

>>212975866
Exactly.
Gunn is just coping.

>>212973983 (OP)
How much is his movie about America, vs MCU's CAPTAIN AMERICA? Didn't his pivot to Krypto the dog meant to water it down to a kiddie/family appeal? Are the markets that dumped it really anti-American, or have better options at theaters?

>>212975703
Chinks love slop.

>>212975806
>American products are expensive
Because Americans expect to get paid what they deserve. They won't work for scraps like everyone else.

>>212975986
Hoover had nothing to to with the Great Depression. It was a long time coming.

If Trump is the reason capeshit is dying right now, then it'll be totally worth voting for him again for this reason alone. Fuck the Constitution, fuck the woke left and the woke right. Just kill capeshit with fire already!

>>212976488
Superman feels pretty American thematically. Some of it definitely feels evocative of contemporary American politics, e.g. Lex has shades of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. The message is about self-determinism and anti-ancestry. And it basically endorses foreign intervention. And aesthetically it's definitely reminiscent of silver age comics that Americans would be more familiar with.

Step in the right direction or false insulting catharsis?

Americans making movies about stopping genocides despite probably being responsible for the last dozen genocides and actively facilitating the current on in israel

>>212974332
Asians have shit taste as evidenced by most anime.

>>212975959
>there is a massive expectation for women to become mothers as soon as they turn over 18, they're actively pressured into this by their families
So uhh why's China got the third lowest fertility rate on earth

>>212974061
well, they're threatening to invade my country.

>>212975403
>your president agrees on tariffs during negotiations, calls it the best deal ever made
>one term later it's suddenly bad and we're ripping you off
fuck you, fag

>>212973983 (OP)
>"Anti-American Sentiment"

does he mean about the Epstein Files?

>people posting in this thread are talking out their ass about China and probably never spent a second in the country lol. Everything is just judeoamerican state propaganda talking points

Lmao

>>212974061
But voting for the left makes your country poorer economically
Canada is destroying itself

>>212975002
>leftist
Trump is literally a communist you fucking retard

>>212976194
Socialism lost, migatard

>>212973983 (OP)
Most people are either into heroes who are relatable (Spider-Man), edgy, or both (Batman). Superman is neither edgy nor relatable.
Although the movie had done ok so far. Gunn is just right that the Superman isn't as popular as he used to be.

>>212976230
The 1978 Superman made a billion after adjusting for inflation. It wasn't woke trash, it was trad, pro-family, and pro-American, and it actually made people believe a man could fly. This movie didn't make us believe that men can cry because none of the "male" characters have any masculinity at all, not Superman, not Lex Luthor, not Guy Gardner, and not Jimmy Olsen, and Mr Terrific is just a cheap blaxploitation parody. Today, Superman '78 would have made at least $2 billion worldwide because it easily mogs any capeshit flick released since 2008, it mogs the entire MCU, it mogs TDKR, it mogs Sneeder's DCEU, and it easily mogs this shit.

>>212976539
>Because Americans expect to get paid what they deserve. They won't work for scraps like everyone else.
That's the point.

>>212976773
I visited Hong Kong once

>>212976858
>Gunn is just right that the Superman isn't as popular as he used to be
injustice
>murderman
sneeder
>murderman
no game and only batman wank
we are in the era of cynism were shit like the boys or edgy stuff get praised as mature slop

geez i wonder why

>>212976616
>Superman feels pretty American thematically. Some of it definitely feels evocative of contemporary American politics, e.g. Lex has shades of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.
So it's anti-American and anti-capitalist actually, huh?
So maybe Trump and tariffs have nothing to do with it flopping everywhere else. Maybe liberals outside Americs simply don't care about American internal politics and aren't as anti-capitalist as American leftists. Maybe they don't want to buy 10+ tickets per persin to artificially raise the box office numbers for propaganda flicks, as American leftists do? Food for thought.

>>212973983 (OP)
Americans are anti-American right now lmao

>>212973983 (OP)
>too embarrassed to say Truth, Justice, and the American way
>shocked when there is anti-American sentiments

>>212977026
What does it mean to be anti-American anyway? If an Italian oppose to the policies of Berlusconi, he isn't anti-Italian. Isn't the anti-American thing a relic from the witch hunt from the 50s?

>>212976986
>So it's anti-American and anti-capitalist actually, huh?
No. There's another privately funded superhero organization in the movie that are good guys. And the Pentagon are shown to be just as skeptical of Lex as they are of Superman. Lex is just cast as the same sort of annoying, reckless egomaniac as Elon Musk.

>>212973983 (OP)
>if you don't buy tickets to see my capeshit movie 3+ times in theater and buy $100+ worth of merch, you hate America, you hate all things good in the world, and are basically just a baddy bad guy

>>212973983 (OP)
I can't speak to the film but I can confirm that the world fucking hates the United States, yes.

>>212977211
Dumbfuck countries

>>212973983 (OP)
Everyone hates the US. Even the US hates the US.

>>212977231
>start conflicts, attempt coups, tariff everyone
>why do they hate us so

>>212973983 (OP)
This legitimate piece of garbage flopping internationally proves two things
>Americans are in general dumber nation
>Americans are in general easier to brainwash

>>212974189
Gib Epstein files

its true, even half america hates america

>>212977211
And yet all they do is bitch and complain without actually having the balls to do anything about it.

>>212973983 (OP)
>>212974031
he's saying people hate america because of israel but can't outright call it that lmfao

>>212975676
>China, Russia, Iran, India, Brasil
>India
lol

I figured we would like this movie since it was so critical of israel.
or are we not doing that anymore now that leftist also hate Israel?

>>212976730
anon... that pressure exists because the birth rate is so low. its a relatively new issue.

>>212977460
No, all of America hates America. "Make America Great Again" implies America isn't good anymore.

>>212974341
>no one wants to watch uberqueer Pedro Pascal in every piece of media made
Pedro is a virile straight man that has sex with human women!

>>212974024
It was woke, it was quintessentially American, and everyone hates it.

superman has never been so popular because Gunn superman is """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports) and everyone but a tiny tiny tiny tiny percentage of online nazis are against """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports).

but also everyone is against trump because trump is against """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports) so the movie is bombing but not really because everyone actually agrees with """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports) so the movie is bombing but not really.

so watch Superman to stand against trump and for """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports).

also notice i didn't capitalize a single letter in this post, this shows i'm totally fucking apathetic and i don't give a fuck and so i'm cool so you totally agree with me and with """"woke""" (which doesn't exist but which is also totally fucking awesome and everyone actually supports).

Americans really shouldn't be surprised that their infantile comicbook slop doesn't play as well with non-stunted societies. Those dull movies are for dull minds.

>>212974341
LOL
I don't watch goyslop any more, but I have noticed they put that guy in every film and show now... WTF???
He's very leftwing, and a spic, so it aligns with Hollywood i guess.

>>212976887
This is the most retarded post I’ve read in a while.

>>212973983 (OP)
Most countries don't like Israel and browbeating cunts, sanctioning them, slapping tariffs on them and demanding protection money while funnelling all of your attention, wealth and influence into a genocidal pariah state isn't the way to get them on side.

>>212978063
Seeth harder

>>212975403
How many other countries have military bases in the US?

>>212974031
F4 performing well internationally will disprove his statement. I think the main reason it flopped is because people outside of the US aren't sold on the idea of a 2020s Superman movie being THIS goofy.

>>212973983 (OP)
jew fatigue

>>212978243
Answer the question.

>>212978379
Others have already answered it retard

>>212978297
F4 will do good in the Europe because all fruity but tracking bad in Asian countries. It’s over with China and Hollywood which is a good thing. Fuck China

>>212973983 (OP)
Has nothing to do with "anti american" sentiment, people are just sick of capeshit and the only ones retarded enough to still consume it are jeets and americans

And also in general I think people are not bothering with movies anymore, they'd rather just wait until it hits digital or they simply would rather watch youtube shorts

>>212978508
> people are just sick of capeshit and the only ones retarded enough to still consume it are jeets and americans

Sure. And this just a super sophisticated movie unlike Gunn’s silly Superman movie

>>212978297
Would you say that Gunn's Superman is more goofy than Aquaman, which is a massive hit overseas?

Why can't anyone take responsibility for their shitty work anymore? Always with the excuses, or it's somebody else's fault. You see it in every aspect of life these days. It would be much more worthy of respect if they said "I guess we made a bad movie, we should try harder next time". But it literally never happens. It has to be Trump's fault. Unbelievable

>>212978658
> I guess we made a bad movie, we should try harder next time".

Guess Gunn should’ve made Superman a chink.

>>212974972
Except the market is all green.

>>212978575
>normie approved fun self-mocking movie series, now with Deadpool and Jackman's Wolverine teaming up
Next you will say that anti-woke is dead because GTA6 will make billions.

>>212978748
the market went blood red when he announced them, then went green when he backed off.
the market no longer believes him because he has backed off so much.
not that I mind, I think being able to realize you are wrong and change your decision is very important in a leader.

>>212978755
Not about woke. World markets are extremely hostile to US right now. That’s not even for debate. China stonewalling almost every Hollywood movie since Trump imposed massive tariffs on them. Only ones done ok are kid cartoons but not even close to years prior. Captain America was boycotted there, Superman was and F4 is tracking bad there was well. A year ago, Deadpool-Wolverine made 60 million in China. Venom made 45 million in China last year

>>212978629
No
Aquaman is a globe trotting, Arthurian esque adventure with big LOTR style battles and world building at the end.|
It's also shot competently and have a bright colourful look to it that plays well overseas.

Superman 2025 is a big goofy blockbuster that is shot in a hideous wide angle 24/7 and has the colours of a superbowl commercial for your mobile phone plan

>>212973983 (OP)
>pandering to spics and pro pali leftoids (poorfags who will not spend a dime to watch the movie)
>flops
many such cases

>>212975213
i mean it could but were in a completely different era of the world now
back when the original transformers and even some of the early sequels came out it was prime movie theater time

hundreds of people would just be chilling in the movie theater lobby everything is like a fucking ghost town compared to then

It's funny how people who seethe about America are ALWAYS too afraid to admit what nation they are from because it is either a shithole or a loser nanny state. It really doesn't matter to me if our president is shit or what other countries think I'm always proud to be an American.

>>212973983 (OP)
That probably hasn't helped matters but I think it's more about Superman not being as big an icon as the likes of Batman or Spider-Man. People still have this idea that Superman is too boring and too much of a goody goody two shoes. The mass market probably still thinks that superman but evil is more interesting even with it being beaten to death.

>>212979059
Bay’s Transformers is an established brand so it might get the Jurassic World treatment. Or the chinks could see it as evil Americans

>>212979109
> People still have this idea that Superman is too boring and too much of a goody goody two shoes.

How can they think that after Snyder’s Murderverse where Superman is basically Homelander

Was the new superman really that bad or is this another case of /tv/ being contrarians?

>>212978629
>Pedro Pascal
>Jason Momoa

These two things are not the same.
>>212978297
It won't, F4 has never been a big hit and the terrible cast is the worst ever.

>>212975676
>China, Russia, Iran, India, Brasil and other brics are able to produce everything the world needs.
Except a society where people actually want to live.

I wonder what goes into people not liking the movie internationally, do they simply not like positive messages or are they merely leery and do not trust anything too american? Like do people think Superman's message is a farce? I know Superman is american but he always struck me as being really iconic and compatible with international audiences so it seems strange to me. I wish I had more insigh on the happening.

>>212979194
its contrarians, the movie was great if you like a hopeful and optimistic take on the character, something we have been lacking for a long time.

>>212974268
Ryan Reynolds has been playing Deadpool since 2009.
Hugh Jackman has been playing Wolverine since 2000.
The movie was completely disconnected from the modern MCU.

>>212979194
Not bad at all. It might not be your type of movie, especially if you’re expecting edgelord shit. But not even close to bad. Faggots on here, especially Snyder jeets trying to make people think is Madam Web or even lost Thor movie

Weird how this never happened after the globally-condemned invasion of Iraq

>>212975331
>Well if the movie does great in america but awful everywhere else, it kinda raises a question whether it's because of its quality
I wouldn't say it's doing great in America, or comparatively awful everywhere else. It's done $236 million in the US which represents 57% of its gross. Compare it to the dinosaur movie and it's performing slightly stronger domestically whereas internationally its doing way worse. Do you think Jurassic World is performing better internationally than Superman because people hate America? Perhaps audiences worldwide are just tired of capeshit and this offers nothing that's new or interesting to change their mind.

>>212973983 (OP)
No, its just this Superman is a manchild and only Americans can relate to that.
The rest are wondering why the movie feels like it was written by a woman.

>>212976640
This comes from Americans, the creators od capeshit.

>>212979791
>ITS LE HECKING HOPEFUL, WE HECKING NEEDED THIS
Do americans not see why the rest of the world thinks they are lame as fuck?

I hate capeshit more than I hate America

>>212975508
Amerimutt seething that people around the world are actual men who want to see cool shit instead of a Live, Love, Laugh: The Movie.

>>212973983 (OP)
He's right about having no idea how the movie is supposed to be woke. it wasn't woke at all.
The rest is just... a plethora of factors. Movies not making that much anymore i ngeneral, capeshit fat being waaaaaay past its prime, the banalization of the incredible, the DC brand being driven int othe ground after Nolan left, oversaturation of content, streaming killing cinema... and yes America not being a good selling point anymore, I guess

>>212973983 (OP)
It's woke because superman isn't taking a knee to Israel and Russia

>>212974234
Trump was the consequence of the left becoming woke and being universally rejected after a decade+ of crusading against normality.
We told you that you were going to get an opposite and equal reaction, but you didn't listen

Btw woke movies are what flop. I've never heard of a Trump movie flopping, because it doesn't exist

>>212976640
but anime are popular specifically because modern westernshit is worse...?

>Superman getting BTFO by Jurassic World
>"It's not a flop bro"
Okay lol

>>212974972
Without a fail.

>>212974692
Other countries zoned out because all America is exporting is woke slop
A pity, after a century of american kino.

>>212976539
Yeah and that’s why you don’t have any manufacturing in the US

yeah, not watching any america trash until trump is gone.

>>212974824
You can blame non-Americans for being stupid and worrying about things that haven't actually happened, but it's definitely the tariffs.

>>212975272
What was woke about the movie?
and no, dogshit said by woketards outised of the movie doesn't count

>>212980082
Nobody liked snydershit

>>212980067
us being so terrible is exactly why we need a hopeful and optimistic movie.
our country is a joke and we need to fix it.

>>212975322
He didn't create Superman, monkey
>>212975462
You have seen the capmrip at 10x speed at best, and imagined the rest

>>212980265
>Trump was the consequence of the left becoming woke

trump was the consequence of both parties rejecting the working class in order to take corporate money.
trump spoke directly to the people who felt the system is unfair and promised to change it.
remember that trump was rejected by the Republican party at first, its only when the American people made it clear they liked him more than any career politician did they fall in line.

>>212976396
>movie is too woke
Where?

>>212978953
Aquaman was dogshit and its only selling point was not being made by sneeder

>>212979194
>/tv/ being contrarians
snydertards and other contrarians

>>212973983 (OP)
Pajeet strikes back!
Snyderbros won again! Bring back explosions and dumb violence! Do the needful!

>>212980683
THIS
NO STOMPING ON PEOPLE, NO WATCH
NO KILLING, NO WATCH
NOT MY SUPERMAN

>>212973983 (OP)
>Is he right?
No lol, people rejected his corny superhero movie, he should have tone down all that.

>>212973983 (OP)
>right now
>suddenly

>>212973983 (OP)
Would Superman wilfully protect a foreign intelligence agency's honeypot operation?

>>212980296
>all America is exporting
>America
Which minority demographic is responsible again for the vast majority of (((Hollywood))) outputs?

>>212974924
Shalom, bro

>>212973983 (OP)
>because the world hates America right now
>right now

>>212973983 (OP)
>anti-american sentiment
es cierto

>starts retarded trade wars with allies
>threatens to invade allies like Canada and Denmark
>stops supporting Ukraine and tells Europe to fuck off
>undermines NATO and threatens to withdraw
>creates overall chaos in the global economy
Support your own movies, you disgusting fat mutts. You don't have any soft power or goodwill left.

>>212981409
>>212981221
Yes

>>212973983 (OP)
he is right, and he voted for this

>>212973983 (OP)
totally right. esl posters bitch about America every day like it's their job.

>MUH TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
maybe the movie is flopping because is bad? Ever though about that. Do you think if avengers civil war was dropped today it would have flop? LOL. Delusional

>>212981476
See? They literally can't stop seething.

>>212981476
>with allies
You retards were never allies. Constantly flinging shit at a country you couldn't even afford to live in.

>>212974972
>>212975032
>>212975069
>why? i am leftist, i hate capitalism but also i really care and feel bad when billionaires who trade on stock market producing nothing, are not making profits on stock market because of drumpf's unstable politics

>>212981625
>>212981635
>vote for isolationism
>cry when you get isolationism
You spend 1,3 trillion dollar ever year just to service your debt to the rest of us. That's not reducing your debt, just paying the interest. It's currently 5%, if it goes up to 6-7%, you'll likely enter a debt spiral which will completely devastate your quality of life. Keep spending with a budget deficit and see what happens, retards. You've taken your stability and soft power for granted. No more handouts.

>>212973983 (OP)
>Superman flopping

>>212981476
>with allies
Bro didn't you hate Americans and literally call them goblins non-stop for years? That doesn't sound like you're an ally tbqhfamalam

>threatens to invade allies like Canada and Denmark

I mean, nobody likes those fucking leafs anyway. Fuck Canada.

>>212982257
There's a difference between banter on forums and your president threatening to invade other countries, you inbred redneck retard.

>>212980504
So you cannot dispute anything I wrote.

>>212982295
I’m not going to war for a pedophile

>>212974234
What reputation? The world has hated the United States since the Vietnam War. That hatred intensified with the coups in Latin America during the 1970s and 1980s, and it boiled over with the wars in Iraq and Syria.
Don’t try to justify yourself with Trump — the entire world has despised the United States for decades

>>212974842
>betray your flesh and blood child because you're such a fucking hopeless and despicable NPC cuckold
Man, I wish there was a hell so people like this would be raped to death for all of eternity.

In Europe, people expect DC to be more serious and "adult", that's why these new wave of MCU-DC movies have failed.

>>212982554
You can actually look up what they think. The developed world went from liking America more than not, to hating it at a near 2 to 1 margin with Trump
>>212981504

>>212981504
>trump in office
>everyone hates the us
>biden in office
>everyone loves the us

>>212973983 (OP)
The world doesn't hate America enough right now nor for the right reasons. Besides, what statistical evidence does Gunn have to support this theory?

>>212976539
>Because Americans expect to get paid what they deserve.
They are getting what they deserve.

>>212973983 (OP)
honestly it's why i didn't watch it so maybe

>>212982885
Whether its for the right reasons or is enough is up for debate but there is evidence to support him if you look 2 posts up

>>212982952
the Great dread is upon I and I!!!

>>212975806
>Trump is an idiot who assumes trade deficits must inherently mean foul play
He's genuinely retarded. Probably around 80-90 IQ.

>>212981194
Superman is corny. And at this point looks like liek peopel hasn't accepted Superman in any form since the 90s/00s cartoon

>>212981578
>avengers civil war was dropped today
removed from its hype train?
Absolutely

>>212982854
Really makes you wonder who he was working for

>>212975806
He just uses the threat of tariffs to get good trade deals. The trade deficit stuff is just a pretence.

His whole self image is built around "the art of the deal" and being a deal maker. He wants to be remembered as making good trade deals for the US. I don't know how this isn't obvious to literally everyone on Earth.

>>212983160
Good leaders like JFK and Roosevelt were popular. Shit leaders like Bush, Nixon, and Trump are unpopular. Any questions?

>>212982854
It just seems like everyone wants America to be weaker, so obviously they want you to be lead by dementia ridden Biden as opposed to someone that won't take shit from other nations.

>>212982445
I just did

>>212982615
In Europe people expect Superman to be Superman, not angsty grimdarkshit

>>212983248
Found the retard who will still vote for the left in current century lmao

>>212983248
If "good leader" means their policies were profitable to other countries, then I guess you are right.

The US playing world police allowed Europe and other US allies to spend less money on defense. In turn all of the NATO countries are beholden to US leadership. Basically a protection scheme that secured the US hegemony.

And the tariffs mean export heavy countries like Germany are getting pushed into a recession. It fucks their economy.

It's really not too hard to understand why Trump is unpopular outside of the US and why Biden who worked for international corporate interests was popular world-wide.

>>212983235
>He just uses the threat of tariffs to get good trade deals.

that would be great if he actually got any deals.
remember 90 deals in 90 days?

>>212983353
>In Europe people expect Superman to be Superman, not angsty grimdarkshit
Many Europeans seem to prefer anime and independent films over capeshit movies

>>212983372
Leftists are higher IQ and more educated in every study. Blue states are vastly more economically productive than red states. California gave away 570 billion dollars while Texas received 346 billion dollars from welfare last year. Conservatives are inbred, obese, retarded rednecks and welfare queens while pretending to be productive and efficient.

>>212983474
His failed rhetoric aside, he is still getting better offers from the EU currently, so why would not barter for more?

>>212983388
you'd have a point if any of trump's plans were working but they are not.
the dollar is way down
our borrowing cost is way up
the deficit is booming more then ever
Epstein is being covered up
American influence overseas is weak
almost no trade deals have been reached

>>212983527
call me if any of those deals actually go though. as far as I know only a single deal with the UK has been reached.
meanwhile out allies are trying to cut us out and create their own trade networks, this is a disaster.

>>212973983 (OP)
>before donald, everyone loved america!

Superman isn't America's hero. That's either Batman or Spiderman. Part of Superman's issue with mass appeal is that he's an alien.

>>212975272
>not understanding
come on... they know, they always know

>>212983582
Few deals have been made, but at least the offers from the EU sound pretty good already. Basically free trade plus some benefits.

>this is a disaster
Either way you shouldn't panic.

>>212983582
>allies
You mean the parasites propped up by US Army and USAID? Same allies who virtue signal about Ukraine and then send Putin 30 billion Euros for gas?

>>212983487
Both CA and TX collect more in federal taxes than they receive in federal spending, but CA received more funding in 2024 and at a higher percentage/

>>212973983 (OP)
the whole world has hated the US for at least 25 years now. total cope.

>>212977550
in america artists are terrified of expressing themselves. curious.

>>212983747
I think you are going to find that our loss of soft power in europe is going to fuck us, hell, that's one of the reasons trump cant close these deals in Europe right now.

>>212978243
It’s called the Pax Americana, not the Pax Othercountrianica.

>>212983475
That's true. Despite anime getting worse since 00s (if not before), at the very least they are better, less mongoloid entertainment that what the west does

>>212983537
Epstein is drama unrelated to economics so whatever. The US dollar and credit ratings were overrated anyway given the US debt, which is ballooning to the moon. The US is way too much in debt. The deficit is up, but the other NATO countries spending more on defense should allow a future president to cut military spending (which is the primary cause of US debt). I can see that Trump can't cut it at the moment because of Ukraine/Russia and China/Taiwan (and maybe he would just be assassinated if he tried it now to be honest).

>American influence overseas is weak
This seems like the only valid criticism in your list. Yes, Trump's actions will destroy the US hegemony in the long run.

Despite moaning publicly, the EU commission is already of salivating, since they were pushing for an EU army for decades, also for more independence from the US.

Russia is also moving closer and closer to China, but that might have been inevitable I suppose.

He isn't wrong. Superman has always stood for American ideas, and people don't like what they are now, especially with the lack of transparency with Epstein.

>>212983758
The productive members of California are leaving to other states by the millions, what's it going to be like when it's just made up of sub-80 IQ shitskins?

>>212983487
>things that never happend
Nazis invented a less convoluted mythology to justify themselves.
Congrats

>>212983612
>Part of Superman's issue with mass appeal is that he's an overpowered uncorrupted good guy
fixed. Truth, Justice and the American Way

>>212973983 (OP)
Everyone does hate America right now, and the only people who say otherwise are delusional cultists.

>>212982125
You can come collect any time lmao, just be sure to have more than rusted Royal Navy that won't even made it halfway past atlantic.

>>212983802
COPE! The world has reached a whole new level of hate with America. You guys just keep finding new lows. You can ignore it if you want to be retarded. But assuming you aren't retarded you are kind of spitting in god's face and the faces of all the legit retards when you make the choice to be as stupid as one. Some people are born retarded and don't get that choice.

>>212983980
this is an impressive amount of bootlicking.

>>212984487
Thank you for commenting

>>212983980
Russia moves sideways to China actually and is at much better relations with best korea and various central africa states, they are realizing that Iran and China are all bark no bite and will play ball with west when push comes to shove.

>>212984487
>trump promised he'd cut the deficit, but he couldn't(even though he did not even try)

>nono, if the dollar and our credit rating sharply dropped it must be cause it was already over rated, it cant be trumps fault.

you are doing a lot of coping

its important to hold our politicians responsible, not make excuses for them.

>>212984679
I'm not American. I'm just describing the current political situation and Trump's motives as I see them. Since people here seem to miss the forest for the trees.

The US is an exorbitant amount of debt. You can make it look like everything is fine and dandy for a while longer (what you would have gotten from Biden/Kamela), but the chickens will come home to roost eventually.

The US needs to make massive cuts and repay debts and Trump's policies seem to go in the right direction there. It comes with a lot of downsides, like the loss of the US hegemony. Yada yada read my post above.

>>212973983 (OP)
Oh for fucks sake. Maybe people didn't want to see yet another reboot of Superman? Maybe seeing the shit trailers turned them off? Maybe hearing about it having multiple cuts to fit the right focus group said more than Gunn can imagine?
Nah, probably muh blumpf whatever fucking shit that has nothing to do with the movie itself.

>>212973983 (OP)
how is a movie where the white male "protagonists" is changed to no longer be competent and smart but stupid and weak so that a bunch of women and minorites can rescue him and tell him what to do not woke?
I mean Gunn also said that Supergirl is tougher then him and that she will actually be treated with respect since she is a woman and not one of those evil, weak and stupid white men

>>212985178
the shit you said isn't in the movie, that's how it's not woke

>>212985414
yes it is

>>212985461
You wanting to be that so so much doesn't affect reality, but you do you

>>212975403
Seems like you struck a nerve