Thread 212979252

Can we all agree that, regardless of everything else, MoS's OST blows Superman's OST out of the water? His first flight was absolutely amazing.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYdg1Y8S0N0

>>212979252 (OP)
I miss when movies had good music. I blame the degradation on MCU and Netflix.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1753169093323843.webm

Lord of the Rings and Man of Steel are the best movie scores of all time.

>>212979252 (OP)
Total rip off of Iron Man’s first flight. He even poses like Iron Man.

>>212979252 (OP)
Just listened to the new OST yesterday and there were definitely some bangers. It totally depends on what emotions you want to convey though. MoS's soundtrack had more sadness, grandeur, and a sense of threat to it. Superman's soundtrack definitely has grandeur but is way more positive in total. I love both soundtracks

>>212979279
LotR and MoS are definitely up there with Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump, and Home Alone 2

>>212979252 (OP)
For me, it's Your Choices Your Actions (Superman 2025)

>>212979332

Nobody really listens to the scores of Jurassic Park, Forest Gump, or Home Alone.

>>212979279
>forgetting Star Wars and Conan the Barbarian
For shame.

>>212979332
I can't remember tune from the new one aside from the main theme, honestly.

>>212979252 (OP)
Well, Nicolas Hoult was prob the biggest name in the movie. Everyone else were basically nobodies. Look at the names in MOS: Russell Crowe with like 20 minutes all to himself in the beginning, Kevin Costner, Amy Adams, Laurence Fishborne, Michael Shannon (not big but not unfamiliar) - and of course music is by Hans Zimmer. MOS was pumped with money to compete and ride with Avengers (2012) while also riding on the success of the Dark Knight (and Rises).

Compare to Gunn's superman, made after the failure of the DCEU and during Marvel's slump, along with the failure of other WB films. They're desperate and can't pump the same $$ steriods this time round. Not surprising MOS's soundtrack was good

>capeslop
grow up

>>212979487
Superman 2025 had a production budget of 225 million, mate. It's not a cheap movie.

>>212979252 (OP)
>>212979268
MoS was some of Zimmers best work

>>212979631
MoS adjusted for inflation today would probably be in the 500 million+ range. It had arguably the best writer / director in the world at the time (Nolan), it had Hans Zimmer, it had multiple big names like Amy Adams and Michael Shannon, and the CGI budget was through the roof

>>212979332
>Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump, and Home Alone 2
lolwut

>>212979744
MoS's budget was $315 million adjusted for inflation. It's gross was 938 million in 2025 money. You tell me which movie is doing better.

>>212979487
>>212979744
I wonder how much of it is budget and how much is actual talent. I think the CG team used in MoS was in-house and you had a director with a very keen visual sense who could micromanage those aspects. Even ZSJL made for peanuts in budget humiliated the CG work of Whedon's JL.

I'm of the belief that the ceiling for talent was simply higher 15 years ago in Hollywood compared to today. The ceiling has been gradually lowered amidst overreliance on digital methods and outsourcing. Not to mention how much talent streaming absorbed in their desperate bidding wars. Regardless of budget, I don't think Hollywood has the capacity to create a movie like MoS today.

>>212979852
I'm not talking a literal math equation of adjustment, I'm talking about the real, actual costs of making that type of movie today. Imagine getting not just Gunn, but THE BEST writer / director on the planet on board, and arguably THE BEST music guy, then THE BEST cgi team, etc.

The fact that MoS had all that then still just did okay was crazy. You were looking for "Its", not "It's" there btw pajeet

>>212979870
>the budget was 500 million adjusted for inflation
>No, it wasn't.
>I'm not talking a literal math equation of adjustment

>>212979860
Snyder is very good at CGI and visual work. He knows how to make CGI look good, like by putting it in the dark a lot, abusing shaky camera, angle tricks, etc.

>>212979860
>. Even ZSJL made for peanuts in budget humiliated the CG work of Whedon's JL
That's a low bar.Also snydercut CG looks like a damn ps3 game.

>>212979888
If you want to refuse context in favor of a bad faith argument, that's your choice. I can just as easily choose to not reply to you. Your universe is dead. Bury it.

I should also tell you, Snyder supports the new universe, so I'm not even sure why you're dying on this hill.

>>212979911
Hey didn't say it was good, just that even a low effort salvaged footage of a cancelled movie somehow looked alright compared to its theatre equivalent.

MoS still looks the best out of the Snyderman trilogy by far. But they did some impressive things with Steppenwolf in ZSJL.

>>212979252 (OP)
The flight music was good.
The rest was just the usual zimmer noise

>>212979252 (OP)
>Can we all agree that, regardless of everything else, MoS's OST blows Superman's OST out of the water?
Yes.

>>212979744
>It had arguably the best writer / director in the world at the time (Nolan),
Nolan was executive producer. He didn't write / direct shit for MoS (and it shows)

>>212979852
Jeets will never understand box office doesn’t mirror inflation. Tickets in 2013 were 8 dollars. Adjusted for inflation it would be 10 dollars today. Guess what the average ticket prices is today? 16 fucking dollars! We are paying six dollars more for tickets than they were in 2013! That would mean people would’ve had paid $14 dollars to see MOS in 2013. You think all the people who saw MOS would’ve paid 14 dollars? No fucking way. Thar is why theater attendance numbers have been on massive decline even more so after Covid

>>212979891
>He knows how to make CGI look good, like by putting it in the dark a lot, abusing shaky camera, angle tricks, etc.
Lol this.
It baffles me when people praise how his stuff looks.

>>212979354
>Nobody really listens to the scores of Jurassic Park, Forest Gump, or Home Alone.
One of my best friends listens to the JP soundtrack all the time and I love listening to the Home Alone OST. Home Alone is a classic

>>212979370
It's using the original Superman theme so I had it in my head ever since watching the movie in the theater. I think it was also pretty respectful of the original by enhancing it instead of just completely turning it around with shit like dubstep or something akin to it

>>212979891
>like by putting it in the dark a lot, abusing shaky camera, angle tricks
If only that made the MCU's CGI look better. When Doctor Strange hit and they started using darker tones, I thought the CGI was finally about to improve. Now, even darker colours, shaky camera, and different angles still make the movies look cheap. Is it really only the time factor that is important?

>>212979252 (OP)
They were both shit in different ways. OP is also a faggot.

>>212979936
Hence the "That's low bar". Joss had 25 millions to reshoot the movie. What a fucking shit show.

>>212979988
>Gunnjeet brags about box office numbers inflated by overpriced tickets
lol, the audience who saw this will be less than half of MoS.

>>212979252 (OP)
new Superman has a variation of the the Reeve's theme, which mogs by orders of magnitude whatever uneroic slop MoS has in its OST
You can argue that that's unfair, but still...

>>212979252 (OP)
The complete soundtrack is better, but the riff on the OG John Williams Superman score is 11/10 perfect and nothing in Man of Steel comes close to being as good.

>>212980010
No, he had 100 million. But instead of just finishing Snyder's work he decided to go full retard.

>>212980035
>>212980038
>Williams

>>212980022
You mentioned Gunn, snydermonkey
Movie industry is dead
The new shit is till leaps and bounds above snydershitm since you mentioned it. You should have bought more tickeds for your flopped univeerse when you could

>>212980043
Snyder material was unwatchable and not even Kubrick would have succeeded, let alone Whedon.

>>212980048
>seething and sour grapes : the post

>>212979936
>But they did some impressive things with Steppenwolf in ZSJL.
Steppenwolf was the absolute pits. What a shitty villain, one of the lamest aspects of the entire JL film was having to sit through every scene he was in.

I was a big fan of Thanos in IW btw. I'd call him a Temu Thanos but that'd be an insult to Temu.

>>212980073
Kubrick would literally kill himself before sinking to the level of making a capeslop film. Snyders work with MoS was the best the DC will ever get imo, and even then it was a flawed but solid film 8/10.

>>212979252 (OP)
X-Men Days of Future Past is the last time a superhero movie had a memorable OST.

>>212979252 (OP)
Absolutely. Hadn't watched it in close to a decade and was very pleasantly surprised.

>>212980022
Attendance doesn’t mean anything any more especially post Covid when shit goes to steaming within months of release. There wasn’t steaming when MOS came out. MOS released in June didn’t get a home release until Nov. Streaming is now 30-40 days after release since Covid

>>212980099
>Snyders work with MoS was the best the DC will ever get imo, and even then it was a flawed but solid film 8/10.
AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
5/10 at best.
Even Returns mogs it, and it was a shit movie.
Sorry I may have liked it at 14 in that phase of my teens, but those embarassing years are in the past

>>212980073
ZSJL proved all you Gunnjeets wrong

>>212980059
Why are Gunnjeets so mad? Is it because only poo in loos bothered watching that slop?

>>212980135
>i-it doesn't matter because I said so
Ok Gunnjeet you lost and your universe failed to even launch.

>>212980170
As long as you sleep sound tonight, sure.

>>212980217
>critics intentionally putting low scores to shit on the Snyder fans that in turn took a shit on them for shitting on Snyder
What else is new? How about you compare their audience scores?

>>212979959
It was Zack the Hack Snyder who copied Batman Begins nearly beat-for-beat, Sir Christopher Nolan Esquire is completely innocent!

>>212979252 (OP)
I hate murderman but yes. MoS' soundtrack is amazing while Superman's is very mediocre.

>better acting
>better action
>better music
>better cinematography
>better hinting of future movies without making it feel like a blatant ad ala Gunnslop
>story is filled with nods to religion, mythology, comic book legacy and philosophy
>conclusion is about the dilemma of becoming a hero but also having to deal with decisions that stain your hands

Geniunely what new does the Gunnslop version even bring? It says something how just about every thread regarding it is on box office whereas MoS discussions still happen on near daily basis on /tv/ 13 years after release.

>>212980623
main issue with MoS was no scenes of superman saving people, solving petty crime and the world around him feeling small. You can say he never became "superman" until the end of the movie which is why there's no saving people stuff but the time spent finding his suit between Zod invading is too short and needs something in between.
The fight at the end went on too long too

>>212980293
because only peopel who have seen it are the schizos who were allways going to vote it 10/10 no matter what.
If it was liked Sneedr wouldn't be stuck at Netflix doing rebel moon. And even that tanked hard.

>>212980707
>main issue with MoS was no scenes of superman saving people
I hate this corny shit. Yes he's Superman, that's what he does. Why even show it? You want to show him go on the shitter or eating his breakfast? There are several scenes in MoS where Clark risks his identity saving people, fuck you want a 90 hour montage of him saving cats from trees? I agree the last fight could've been toned down in favor of more scenes showing the transformation into Superman though.

>>212980623
>>better acting
frowning at the horizon ins't acting
>>better action
uncreative punching that goes on forever YAWN
>>better music
Zimmer noise. Flight scene had good music but that's all. I guess at least it had an original soundtrack. Still Superman Theme mogs x100000000000
>>better cinematography
lol no. It does't even have colors.
>>better hinting of future movies without making it feel like a blatant ad ala Gunnslop
not a thing
>>story is filled with nods to religion, mythology, comic book legacy and philosophy
all bad, annoying and shallow. literally a negative
>>conclusion is about the dilemma of becoming a hero but also having to deal with decisions that stain your hands
nothing like that is discussed in the movie

> what new does the Gunnslop version even bring?
Superman
>MoS discussions still happen
Mos was never discussed.
>it's secretly good!
>no it's shit!
That isn't discussion. And you describing on endless loops what happens in the movie as if people didn't get it isn't discussion either

Hope it helps

>>212980793
Gunnjeet cope

>>212980760
Because Superman is about saving people

I miss when heroes were about preventing death and destruction, and not about killing their enemies and avenging mountains of corpses

>>212980810
>emotional monkey reaction

>>212980830
A million of superheroes are like that you retard. What distinguishes Superman is his alien heritage, him being a son of two worlds and him having to restrain his awesome powers to benevolent causes without it degrading into mass control. These are the aspects that sets Superman apart and what Snyder arguably explored more in his films than any other Superman director. Saving cats out of trees is not interesting nor inherently unique to Superman.

>>212980842
>replies to every greentext with nu uh
>accuses others of being monkeys
Kek the state of Gunnjeets

>>212980623
>>better acting

>>212980862
>A million of
*other
inb4 typo

>>212979252 (OP)
Cause I'm a punkrocker, yes I am

>>212979252 (OP)
>Can we all agree that
No

>>212979252 (OP)
It could have been such a great movie. All they had to was just have Jonathan Kent teaching Clark how to be a hero, not have such an over-the-top destructive final battle in the end, and don't have Superman snapping Zod's neck.

>>212980927
You are forgetting
>Stop, my invincible son
>Krypton had its chance
>Man of murder going through a bus station in Smallville

>>212981027
Brown hands typed this.

>>212981033
jeet

Gunnjeets in shambles. Nobody will remember this slop in a few weeks. Already discussion has dried up to

>Why did Murderman kill his clone????

>>212979913
Math is an exact science, retard. The fact is MoS had a better return for WB.

>>212979961
Yeah, except for Spider-Man, Deadpool, Wolverine, Batman, Top Gun, Avatar, and Jurassic Park. People don't want to watch mid movies like Superjew and Thunderfarts for 16 dollars. They'll pay it just fine for stuff they like.

>>212979346
i prefer last son but that's also good

>>212980707
>MoS was no scenes of superman saving people
what? motherfucked saved a bus full of kids, a bunch of workers, a woman who was being harrased, his mother, Lois Lane, Smallvile, US pilots, US soldiers, the fucking world, and people of Metropolis

>>212979252 (OP)
I slightly prefer Superman's. Zimmer's is mostly good but sometimes sounds like the generic Zimmer trailer music.

Eyes up Here Mogs

>>212980623
New one doesn’t make me want to kill myself so that’s an improvement at least

>>212980862
Snyder didn't explore that, he explored nothing.
All he did is hatefiction for manchildren

Also nice one with that pic, where you prove once again that the concept of "context" is lost to you cultists

What distinguishes Superman is that he's Superman, not alien man., not angry man. And he cares, unlike snyderman

>>212981375
Nobody rememebers snydershit. Only that it was bad and its fanboys were annoying

>>212981770
>what? motherfucked saved a bus full of kids,
while being annoyed
> a bunch of workers,
while being angry
> a woman who was being harrased,
he left her with the harrasser
>his mother, Lois Lane,
yes
> Smallvile,
he destroyed Smallville
> US pilots, US soldiers,
only the one fro mthe helicopter/plane wasn't a coincidence
> the fucking world,
after drawing the enemy her
> and people of Metropolis
after killing and detroying half of it an making up on the ruins

What an hero lmao

>>212983500
>>212982043
>>212983430
>>212983447
Gunnjeet cope

>>212983430
>What distinguishes Superman is that he's Superman
Wow, so this is the IQ of poo in loo Gunnpedo shills??

Woah....

>>212983812
>>212983803
>WAAAA WAAAA WAAAAA GUNN WAAAAAA GUNN WAAAAAA GUNN WAAAA

>>212983904
Gunnjeet is falling apart. Are today's box office numbers really that bad?

>>212983430
The only hate is coming from you. You need a therapist.

>>212980170
>the war between snyderfags and anti-snyderfags is literally just them calling each other indians

>>212979252 (OP)
So tired of Hans Zimmer (MOS) and his Remote Control Productions understudies (Superman '25). They've killed memorable main themes.

Give me John Williams, Alan Silvestri, James Horner, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, Ennio Morricone, Jerry Goldsmith, etc.

>>212980169
>Sorry I may have liked it at 14 in that phase of my teens, but those embarassing years are in the past
>I'm 16 now and my tastes have greatly matured

>>212980707
>main issue with MoS was no scenes of superman saving people
The movie makes a point to show him saving people throughout the whole thing

Lots of people HATED the Zimmer score back in 2013

>>212984943
Lmao stay mad

>>212984552
>>212983940
>NO U
>U MAD
cry more, ragebaiter

>>212984923
not in the movie, sorry angry boy
>>212984825
yes, most people have their cringiest phase at 14, then they grow up. Unlike Snyder

>>212979252 (OP)
No. It is shit. It will always be shit.

>>212985636
The music isn't one of its many many problems. Could have been way more heroic tho. It's supposed to be a Superman movie after all

>>212984766
>Give me John Williams, Alan Silvestri, James Horner, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, Ennio Morricone, Jerry Goldsmith, etc.

>>212985434
>>212985475
>>212985779
Sirs! Redeem the ticket

>>212984766
I don’t know why Gunn wouldn’t just get Williams himself if he was so set on using his theme.

>>212986605
Royalties.

>>212986605
>>212987364

I think he actually finally retired, he's pushing 100 at this point