Thread 212989565

Yep, it's kino.

reminder that cuties is 95% fresh

>>212989565 (OP)
Not so fast, Disneyjeets.

>>212989565 (OP)
>still caring about ratings

>>212989597
You lost DCuck. Again.

>>212989597
Lol. Kys gunntroon.

>>212989565 (OP)
>>212989653
>>212989692
We have to wait until Armond White weighs in.

>>212989565 (OP)
>First steps.
>Cast actors who are already too old for their roles.

>>212989785
This film is serious like Iron man/Captain America unlike SuperKek. The King will like it.

>>212989597
thats wild to me since I thought Fantastic Four (saw a press screening) was leagues ahead of Superman. It actually had a thematic arc for one thing. Why are critics so braindead?

>>212989785
>King of /tv/ is a SnyderChad
Um, based?

This is it F4bros. Our time has come

>>212989868
Chris don't worry, F4 will be an international hit unlike SuperKek.

>>212989868
>Why are critics so braindead?
>can't figure the thematic arc of Superman, something even kids can figure out

>>212989785
He very well may like it because he hates Gunn, lololol.

>>212989565 (OP)
>Disney buying positive reviews
>again
Nothing new.

>>212989916
>Hates pedos
Unironically based.

>>212989565 (OP)
PLEASE FLOP IN THE BOX OFFICE!
I WANT MCU TO FAIL!

>>212989937
This. The Metacritic score is lower than Superman's and dropping quickly.
Death to rat shills.

>>212989832
>serious
All trailers make it look like more Marvel slapstick comedy. So I doubt it.

>>212989565 (OP)
>fresh
capeslop is about the stalest thing there is

>>212989910
Pascal fatigue is real.

>>212989982
Non-shill reviews say it's like early MCU films unlike the recent quipslops.

>>212989964
It's already failing, doubt this will perform any better than Thunderbolts or Cap 4,

Only movie that will make 2 billion will be Secret Wars and that's only IF they bring back all the old actors and characters people love, including the 2000s Marvel actors, and get rid of the rest of the shit no one wants to see

>>212990021
Indians and Chinese don't care.

>>212989982
>Marvel slapstick comedy
hello saar

>>212989565 (OP)
Wait until it has over 300 reviews. It's going below 80.

>>212989597
Both in the same slop boat.

>>212989868
You just have bad taste.

Hell yeah. Fantastic Four is about to break Superman's bitch ass legs. Superman will barely get 15 million this weekend. The floppening for Superbitch is here.

>>212990033
That's a good sign. No movie has topped Captain America: A Winter Soldier as of yet.

>>212990093
>cancer is about to beat cancer
>this is a good thing

>>212990055
Hopefully 47 doesn't endorse it.

>>212990093
>Snyderjeets never liked DC and now are shilling Marvelslop
Can't say I'm surprised.

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>>212989565 (OP)
Sorry bros I don't have any confidence in Fan 4 stick. I may HDMI it for sure.

>>212990095
Superman 1,2(Raimi), Iron Man, Batman Begins, TDK, Watchmen, Logan are all better cape kinos than Winter Soldier

>>212990132
>F-Fuck Jews!

>>212990086
nah, Superman sucked dick. It was one of the most vapid, shallow films I've seen in a long time, with the stupidest civilian population ever seen in a movie and the worst lex luthor ever put on screen. It also looked absolutely garish.

Post credit scene leak when? That's literally all I want to see. Fucking embarrassing it's not up already

>>212990176
I agree 100%, Anon. I'm talking Marvel movies only. Also, did you mean Spider-Man 1,2?

>>212989597
>both mediocre capeslop
>B-b-but at least one has a higher score than the other!
The absolute STATE of capeshitters.

>>212990205
You have to be white to enjoy Superman.

>>212990236
The post credit scene is directed by the Russo brothers.

>>212989911
There is no real thematic arc to the movie, it pretends to have one by having the Justice Gang change their mind, almost entirely off screen, for no palpable reason to help Superman but thats it. If you think Superman finding out his birth parents were bad and that one, generic speech from Pa Kent counts as a thematic arc you are extremely retarded. At no point does it compromise Superman's intent to save people, he never once questions if he should stop doing that. You could take the Kent farm scene out of the movie and it would be entirely the same. Please stop showing everyone how stupid you are.

>>212990209
Was Mr. Terrific good at least?

>>212989565 (OP)
A lot of lukewarm reviews, those 2.5-3 star it's pretty, it's a nice air conditioning in the summer movie, but it's pretty much the same made in a factory movie you'd expect.
Superman had more "this is good as Warner's new crown jewel of the summer" reviews

>>212990242
Yes the first 2 films of Raimi, also 3 isn't a bad film. Just overstuffed.

>>212990273
he was fine, he had no clear motivation as to why he was doing anything. Metamorpho, Jimmy and Guy Gardner were the real stars of the movie for me, even if I felt like Guy did not earn his change at the end at all.

>>212990260
The retard thinks Superman spelling out his character in a speech is a character arc.

>>212990260
>If you think Superman finding out his birth parents were bad and that one, generic speech from Pa Kent counts as a thematic arc you are extremely retarded
It's about rejecting your biological destiny and assimilating into a new society, you dumb fuck. Superman starts off the film believing that that he's a good man because of his parents' message, and when that's revealed to be a lie, we understand that Superman is Superman not because he's the Chosen One, not because he's got some special blood. He's Superman because of his own goodness and his trad parents' upbringing.
Fuck Yidsney, by the way.

>>212990285
No I disagree, lol. Spider-Man 3 Raimi was dreadful. He had the best trilogy in his firm grip but lost it to Nolan's Batman. Yes, I know /tv/ hates Nolan, lol. TDKR > Spider-Man 3

>>212990368
I don't, he has only made two bad/boring films so far. Dunkirk and Tenet.

Doesn’t Disney own RT?

>>212990351
>It's about rejecting your biological destiny
Its not, because he never had a biological destiny. At no point is it ever shown or said that he saves people because he was destined to do so by his birth parents. He does it because he personally believes its right and that never changes. You are imaginging something that isnt there. Please stop embarassing yourself.
>Superman starts off the film believing that that he's a good man because of his parents' message
This is blatantly false, the message just plays in the background while he heals, at no point is it ever implied or said that what you are supposing is the case. You are truly, truly stupid.

>>212990351
>Marvel is the World Outside Your Window
If you live in South Bronx

How much does it need to make in order to maximize the seethe?

>>212990368
>TDKR > Spider-Man 3
Disagree. SM 3 had a bunch of bloat and that awful retcon, but TDKR had bad fight choreography, awful dialogue and too many plot holes.
SM 3 is streets ahead of it.

>>212989565 (OP)
It'll do ok on the repeat desperate hope that audiences have that eventually woke Hollywood has to accidentally make something good. It's not good and its woke filth like all the rest, but that won't stop the hope. Hollywood only has kids and some of their parents at this point.

>>212990259
Perfect. They only thing they do well is capeshit and tv. So, where is it??

>Matt Shakman has done something Marvel Studios doesn’t do very well anymore. He’s made a superhero movie that embraces the 'super' part. And the 'hero' part. And the 'movie' part.
How retarded do you have to be to get hired as a film critic?

>>212989565 (OP)
Yeah
I think it’s time to apologize

>>212990476
Spider-Man 3 had none of the narrative thread the first 2 movies had. It was like an unrelated standalone movie but alas we agree to disagree. But I agree with most of your favorite movies pics, Anon.

>>212989868
>no this time a mcu movie isn’t shit
Hahahaha

>>212990453
>Superman LITERALLY says that he’s serving humanity BECAUSE of his parents’ message
>when he’s healing there’s a shot of him MUTTERING the message to himself in Kryptonian
>when the message is revealed to be about something else, it shatters his entire worldview and makes him retreat emotionally
You are retarded lmao, too dumb to follow a dumb capeshit flick
Now tell me about the profound thematic arc of Fantastic Clop, I want to laugh

>>212990209
Again, you just have bad taste. Vapid and shallow? Worst lex luthor? lol...You clearly lack any understanding.

>>212989565 (OP)
>First Steps
implying there will be more LOL

It's the Garner touch

>>212989565 (OP)
>1960’s
>retrofuture (postwar 20th century)
Certified Slop Flags

>>212990437
> Doesn’t Disney own RT?
Nah Warner's does. That is why Supershit got such great reviews even though it was a ADHD MCU flick trainwreck.

>>212990470
This is genuinely the best version of Sue in any adaptation in any medium. They hit it out of the park.

>>212990638
Spider-Man 3 directly continues Peter's failing relationships with his friends and family that began unfolding in Spider-Man 2.

>>212990806
And your explanation for why countless OTHER Warner Bros films got shit reviews?

>>212990638
TDKR is a bad movie even by cape standards.
The dialogue was porn parody tier and the fight choreography was laughable. It's like Nolan gave up half way through.

>>212990719
>Superman LITERALLY says that he’s serving humanity BECAUSE of his parents’ message
no he actually doesnt say that, wild you just made things up
>when the message is revealed to be about something else, it shatters his entire worldview and makes him retreat emotionally
it doesnt though, he actually keeps trying to save people, he is physically forced to retreat when he gets hurt. you're pretty retarded

>>212990737
>You clearly lack any understanding.
retarded ESL

>>212990260
You have no idea what you're talking about. The thematic arc is to be your own person, forge your own path, and that you don't have to be whatever your parents or other people want you to be. Self-determination. This is so obvious. Superman said it in the very beginning in the lois lane interview that his reason for being superman was to fulfill his parents' dying wish which was to be humanity's savior/hero. But then we later find out that his parents actually wanted him to be evil. This sets up one of the major conflicts for superman that he needed to grapple with and overcome. And it's resolved through his heroic actions and pa Kent reiterating that it's his actions and choices that define who he is and not some wish or plan from his biological parents. It's about going against the grain aka being punk rock.

>>212990672
I normally hate MCU movies and genuinely thought Fantastic Four was great. Like it felt like Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2 from the Raimi era in some ways (even if the CGI gets a little shitty near the end)

>>212991383
>your free 2 week Disney+ subscription has been unlocked

>>212991345
>The thematic arc is to be your own person, forge your own path
Except Superman had already been doing that in the beginning, he is exactly the same at the start of the movie as he is in the end
> and that you don't have to be whatever your parents or other people want you to be.
except at no point he is being what his parents or others want him to be, he makes it incredibly clear in that convo with Lois that he saves people because he wants to save them, at no point does he ever question if he should stop saving people and being Superman. You are projecting something that isnt there. It's really pathetic.

>>212991345
>This sets up one of the major conflicts for superman that he needed to grapple with and overcome.
LMAO, no way you seriously believe this? There is no major conflict in Superman, he never, EVER "grapples" with it outside of getting a single pa kent speech that just confirms what Superman was already doing

>>212989565 (OP)
after the last like 10 shit tier marvel movies they had to get one right just by chance

>>212991345
>It's about going against the grain aka being punk rock.
AHAHAHAHAAH HOLY SHIT AHAHAHAH you have to be underage right? Or this is bait? Jesus Christ, you pajeets are something else

>>212990368
The dark knight rises is dreadfully boring and nonsensical. Batman begins is worse than spider man 1.

>>212989565 (OP)
This shit is supposed to be in the 60s? They didn't have surgery like this in that era

>>212991642
I just don’t want to pay 15 bucks to go stare at this thing for 3 hours

>Dafne
>Xochitl
>Julia Garner
Why is the Fantastic Four premiere full of girls hotter than the actual Sue Storm actress?

>>212989911
wtf is that real

>>212991345
>The thematic arc is to be your own person, forge your own path, and that you don't have to be whatever your parents or other people want you to be
except he was literally ALREADY doing that in the film and at no point did he even secong guess his life choices...Are you retarded anon?

I will watch this slop when it's free. I refuse to give pedro money

>>212991642
Oh no. oh nonononnono bros

>its actually going up
Its going to hit 90 soon

>>212992080
Here we goo

I saw Superman and liked it, I'll check this out. Haven't seen a Marvel film since GOTG Vol 3, they just weren't very interesting the last couple of years.

It's over

Gee I wonder if Armond White will wait a day to see if the consensus is positive or negative to post his totally legit "review".

>>212991450
>Except Superman had already been doing that in the beginning, he is exactly the same at the start of the movie as he is in the end
We're talking about thematic arc not character arc.
>except at no point he is being what his parents or others want him to be, he makes it incredibly clear in that convo with Lois that he saves people because he wants to save them, at no point does he ever question if he should stop saving people and being Superman. You are projecting something that isnt there. It's really pathetic.
He clearly said to lois that he became superman to honor what he believed was his parents wish/plan for him. And of course superman didn't stop being superman after finding out his parents' true message (he definitely showed some doubts and depression) because it reinforces the idea that parents can't always dictate what their children do/become. That's the thematic arc that you fail to understand unless it's all spelled out for you.

>>212992035
No he wasn't. He said very clearly in the beginning that he became superman because that's what his kryptonian parents wanted him to be.

>>212991490
>There is no major conflict in Superman
He is clearly and understandably depressed following the revelation that his parents wanted him to be evil and that his purpose of being on earth was a lie. This is a major conflict for him that he eventually does overcome.

>>212992486
and so his "arc" was continuing to do what he had already been doing. WOW!!! WHAT AN ARC XISTERS!!!!!

>>212992831
Trying too hard.

>>212991345
His arc has a retarded cop out though. Because the story is cluttered with subplots, at the end he focuses on closing the black hole and the justice gang solves the political conflict instead, effectively saving Superman from getting his hands "dirty". It was good for the development of the other heroes, but Superman should have been part of that final fight too. Aside from that, the movie has so many damn jokes and the civilians feel so NPC that any semblance of the "Hope" message comes across as insincere.
Superman as a concept clashes with Gunn's crass sensibilities, and that's why Supergirl will probably be better. Having whiny, imperfect protagonists that constantly get their asses kicked works in something like The Suicide Squad, but not with the allegory of Jesus

>>212993014
If the basics of capeshit are too hard for you anon, you might want to consider suicide.

>>212993070
>the allegory of Jesus
GOOD MORNING SNYDERSAAR

Mogged?

>>212992831
His purpose for being superman changed. In the beginning he did it for his kryptonian parents believing that's what they wanted from him. But at the end he is superman because that's what he chooses to be. This is very easy to understand but you jeets seem incapable of understanding even the most simple things.

>>212993398
>In the beginning he did it for his kryptonian parents believing that's what they wanted from him.
Except he still chose to do it, weather or not his parents wanted him to is immaterial. It was still his choice. So in the end he just made the same choice, again...Is this so hard for you to understand?

Fantastic Four is definitely going to break Superman's legs.

>>212993684
I heard people "guaranteeing" Superman would drop similarly to Man of Steel in its second weekend too. Don't count it out.

>>212993372
Marvel Rivals being entirely unafraid to make men look like men and women look like women is refreshing.

Do you people understand how utterly fucking pathetic you are for caring about subpar live action remakes of comicbooks

>>212993889
>remakes
Adaptations*

>>212993684
Everyone will be doing SuperFantastic double features

I am waiting for the opinions of trusted youtube intellectuals to post their views before forming my own

>>212989565 (OP)
>Shill rating

>>212990631
We didn't know how good we had it....

>>212992080
supercucks...

>>212993372
Definitely. Especially the Thing. Movie version looks way too small, should be as wide as the game's. All characters sound better in the game versions too.

>>212993070
>cluttered with subplots
They all were entertaining and necessary to support the main plot. If they went off on their own thing then that would be bad because now they're distracting away from the actual story.
>Superman should have been part of that final fight too
I disagree. The black hole was a far more important issue that needed superman's help asap. And the justice gang are more than capable of handling the situation themselves. Having superman and the justice gang prevent the invasion would have been overkill and unnecessary.
>the movie has so many damn jokes
There was a very comfortable amount of jokes. It never felt like there was too many especially compared to gunn's previous movies.
>Superman as a concept clashes with Gunn's crass sensibilities
Gunn got superman absolutely right. His superman movie is the most faithful ever. The least faithful is man of steel.

>gunnjeets shilling supershit here
Give it up, not watching anything dc

>>212993372
Thingbros, we're eating good this season.

It sucks sweaty asshole like all amerigoy capeshit slop

>>212991345
BASED SUPERCHAD SCHOLAR DABBING ON FRAUDVEL KEKS!!

>>212992015
Yes. Krypto actor is Aaron's pet

>>212993602
Again we're talking about the purpose. The purpose for Clark kent being superman. This isn't hard to understand unless you're a jeet.

>>212993372
holy shit the costumes look so much better

>>212995060
The costume still looks like ass but overall it looks better because the characters in the costumes actually look fantastical.

>>212989565 (OP)
>starting on a 87%
>Its gonna fall into the 70% by saturday.

>>212989565 (OP)
>Yep, it's kino.
SurelE you mean
>kek, it's kino.

>>212990631
This one is fucking comfy and fun...and Jessica Alba is in her prime.

>>212990176
logan sucks

>>212993372
she so hot, bros...

>>212994001
.gary frequently calls himself retarded and mentions that he was kicked out of 3 high schools. you're mad at people that don't exist.

>>212996857
Can't wait for her summer skin sometime down the line.

>>212990033
they were all quipslops. we just hadn't noticed the formula back then.

Disney has an even bigger budget to buy reviews than Warner did for Superman

>>212997328
you act like they didn't do that with the rise of skywalker

>>212989785
gonna be metakino when he loves it

>>212997328
I don't think WB spent much on reviews for Superman, it would explain all the passive-aggressive seething from the Youtube grifter posse.

>>212997328
This claim doesn't ever make sense. Why are there any poorly received Marvel or DC movie EVER if they supposedly "buy reviews"?

>>212997328
Sorry but capeshit is back.

>>212997436
because critics with any kind of following will always try to raise their prices and threaten to write a negative review if they aren't bribed.

>down already
this shit will be in the 70-60s range lmao
another garbage for the marvelkeks to shill

why do criticfags love superhero shit so much?

>>212997472
That doesn't answer my question at all.

>>212997497
>ANY MOMENT NOW I SWEAR
You claimed this for Superman as well, yet it's firmly settled at 83%

>bad reviews are made by adrenaline junkie retards with ADHD
it's kino

>>212997574
>115 reviews
by that moment superman was on 92%

>>212997553
it does
the other reasons are that really bad movies are going to make critics look too obviously like shills. plus being negative generally makes a critic look edgy and assertive for the same reason as ragebait and trollling work on the internet in general.

hope that covers everything! remember to never buy into the parasocial scam of media criticism!

>>212997624
>where splosion!? Grawp want splosion!

>>212997497
All this piece of shit film has to do is break Superman's legs and do better than it internationally. If it does that it is successful and proves that Gunn is a hack fraud that makes Zaslav fire him.

>>212989565 (OP)
Go woke go broke.

Reed Richards is white and not hispanic in any way.

>>212997670
Or....they actually liked the films and that's why they got positive reviews

>>212989565 (OP)
RT scores are retarded.
>>212989597
Metacritic is almost always on the money.
>>212990245
They're fighting over the sloppiest, stinkiest shit in the Ganges.

>>212997670
>they pay to make bad movies have good reviews!
>except for like....the bad movies, they are too obvious, it's the other bad movies that are paid for, they pay to have the other OTHER bad movies have bad reviews

>>212997695
review videos take hours to make. the only critics doing it for free are the ones who haven't found an audience yet.

>the only reason people are talking about ff in this board is to use for ammo against susperman
lmao you really got mindbroken hard , i can see F4 wom being dogshit after watching the movie.

>>212997835
You haven't watched it though have you?

>>212990617
This post is funny.

>>212997672
It won't do that because many of the negative reviews says it has a boring plot. Barely any action. That's not going to beat superman at the box office no matter how good the critic score is because people want to be entertained when they go out to watch a summer blockbuster movie.

>>212989565 (OP)
Fuck this. The reviews for Superman are all good and movie is dogshit. Capeshit is dead and there is not enough copium on this whole planet to defend it's rotting corpse.

>>212998076
you seem a little mad

>>212990055
Not just Indians and Chinese. Pedro has no appeal in Asia

>>212998076
Majority of the general audience loved superman. 92% verified rt audience score and 4/5 letterboxd score. So the critics got it right. Fantastic bore is looking to end below 80% on rotten tomatoes and will end below 60 on metacritic. Keep seething jeet.

>>212992080
>Disney desperately paying off critics
>again
No one likes Fantastic Four. It'll flop due to lack of interest in capeshit.

>>212997364
Disney froze the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.

>>212990780
She could've been Supergirl.

>>212999100
Or....Sue.

>>212989565 (OP)
>2005
>Fantastic Four and Superman in cinemas
>2015
>Fantastic Four and Superman in cinemas
>2025
>Fantastic Four and Superman in cinemas

It's all so tiresome.

>>212999167
2006 and 2013 for Superman, AKSHULLY

>>212999336
I was referencing BvS from 2016 cunthead SPASTIC

>>213000027
That also isn't 2016

>>213000027
hang on you said 2015

>>212999167
Fantastic Four in cinemas 1934:

Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic = Ramon Novarro
Sue Richards, The Invisible Woman = Norma Shearer
Johnny Storm, The Human Torch = Jackie Cooper
Ben Grimm, The Thing = Wallace Beery
Galactus = Lionel Barrymore
The Silver Surfer = Johnny Weissmuller or Jean Harlow

Doom: The Child Kidnapper

>>212989565 (OP)
>94 ratings

>>212989565 (OP)
Fantastic Flop

Just as I expected.

>>212989565 (OP)
One in seven critics couldn't be bothered to give this slop a single halfhearted thumbs up, and you call it kino?

>>212989597
You need to grade on a curve, because these sites inflate scores. Under 70 is in the bottom half. These both get an F.

>>213002809
You're an idiot

I'm thinking of watching this only because I want the Galactus popcorn bucket but I'm not even sure if they will carry those in my country

>>212990638
WRONNNGGGGGGGGGG

Eddie is literally a version of Peter without responsibility. What if someone with negative amounts of personal responsibility got the powers instead of Peter.

Harry goes to help Peter at the end not because he found Peter was innocent, but because it was the right thing to do. No butler shit. He just picks up an old photo of the 3 together and he understands he has to help. Because its the right thing to do. Fulfilling the thematic arc of the whole trilogy about responsibility.

TDKR is a good movie despise some sloppy choreography, but SM3 is better. Unless you only watched the theatrical cut. In which case its your fault for being retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RrXWovex8I

>>213003009
That's definitely NOT Eddie Brock of the comics though.

>>212994773
>e're talking about the purpose. The purpose for Clark kent being superman
was his choice, again, regardless of what his parents wanted, he made a choice. Then he made the same choice, when he found out what his parents "really" wanted. In both scenarios he made his own choice, and he made the same choice both times. Are you fucking retarded mate? This shit is so simple a child could explain it to you

>>212989565 (OP)
Ign gave it 7

>>213003348
and? Im gonna quote the previous reply

>Spider-Man 3 had none of the narrative thread the first 2 movies had
There he is talking about how SM3 doesnt follow the thematic narrative established in and 1 and 2.

>then my comment
I argue it does

>then your stupid comment that has nothing do to with the previous comments and its something about how similar is the character to the comic books

Now that you are up to date my questions.

1. What the fuck has to do with what we were arguing about?
2. How the fuck something similar or not to a comic book makes a better movie? May I remind you, Doc Ock is nothing like the comic books eithers.

Now shut the fuck you mouthbreathing nigger.

>>213003009
Nta, you are not wrong however it's hard to get those messages since SM3 was basically three movies, Venom, Sandman and Peter's arc all fighting together with Harry and Gwen taggin along those stories. I know Raimi loves Sandman and he wanted that to be the heart of the story but honestly I think it would have worked better without him, maybe save him for SM4 along with Black Cat and Lizard.

>>213001013
Underrated post

>>212989565 (OP)
Pedrochads, here we go!!! #transrights