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Goon to Troi.

>>212992387 (OP)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/World_War_III
I think it's gonna be like back to the future 2 and the cubs world series and be a year off.

>>212992449
Umm umm umzadi

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>>212992387 (OP)
>It would be cruel to put the innocent on trial?

Honest opinion

VIII: First contact > VII: Generations > I: Motion picture > VI: Undiscovered country > IX: Insurrection > III: In search of Spock > II: The wrath of Khan > X: Nemesis > IV: Voyage home > V: The final frontier

>>212993495
Every tos movie is better than every tng movie. Far better. You have bad taste

>>212993495
thats a pretty weird list but TNG didn't earn its roman numerals

>>212993256
Even in the mirror universe Wesley is fucking insufferable-

>>212993495
VI TMP>
II IV>
III V>
Any TNG Movie>
Any Abrams nutrek schlock>
Nutrek Schlock

>>212993695
Insurrection > other TNG movies = Abrams schlock tbqh

>>212993495
Crazy list my guy. Why?

Archer was hitting that, right? Twilight is a good episode.

>>212993930
wasn't she just like...his carer? I don't remember if they were actually together

There's a new Canon map from last week's Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Please inform the whales in Cetacean Ops so they can update their charts.

>>212994092
Gay. You’re gay.

>>212994092
>Cetacean Ops

>>212994092
No, fuck off.

>>212993718
Fair, first contacts production with Insurrection's plot would put it at tos tier

>>212994092
i like how they have no imagination and cant function in a universe that had the eugenics wars in the 90s and first contact in 2062 so they pushed everything back and say its still canon even though it almost completely ignores canon.
they didnt know anything about the gorn until arena, not even what they look like or where their home planet is.
i suppose i can take solace in the fact that its so obviously an alt universe that if star trek every does get picked up again it will be where berman left off.

>>212994092
>Gorm
>Q
Hopefully the 3rd episode will not suck..

>TMP
>Better than both TUC and TWoK
This feels like a puzzle that needs to be solved.

>>212994559
not that guy but i get it. TMP is both a SUCCESSFUL hard continuation of TOS the series after a decade of anticipation and an audiovisual spectacle beyond the scope of any other trek film. One of the last true pure practical and analog films with a massive budget.

>>212994254
the dumbest and most stupidest concept in nutrek.
its one thing to design 100% water ships like the xindi. mixing water and oxygen atmosphere on the same ship is absolutely retarded. theres no feasible way to operate both systems and prevent catastophe. further, there has never been an instance of the water system breeching or needing emergency power to continue operating even thought life support fails and hulls breech and the eps conduits blow out every other week.
cetacean starfeet officers is horseshit.
what they do have is a few tanks to study cetaceans like they have an arboritum to study plants and a "school" to study children.

>>212994683
>a "school" to study children.
erm...come again?

>>212994737
He let his pedo habits slip, please excuse him.

>>212994683
>the dumbest and most stupidest concept in nutrek.
Cetacean Ops existed on blueprints of the Enterprise in TNG, and has nothing to do with nutrek. Like, are you retarded?

>>212994157
>>212993930
>>212993782
maybe get some extension or app to hide the fact you shitpost from dumbphone

>>212994683

> cetacean starfeet officers is horseshit!!!

>>212994737
im making a bit of a joke but the purpose of the classroom scenes is for the adults to observe a new childs behavior. the one exception is rascals where they use the classroom as a jail.

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>>212994826
>>212994882
Didn't the PA in Yesterday's Enterprise also tell someone to report to Cetacean Ops?

>>212994826
show me an on screen appearance or reference to "cetacean ops" and I will consider your point

>>212994931
>the PA

>>212994838
I will not.

>>212994997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbyErXT4Z0

>>212995051
Understandable but still detestable, cheers

Thoughts on the Thegoolians?

>>212994941

As requested.

>>212995135
NOOOO, THAT DOESN'T COUNT, IT'S NUTREK!

>>212995119
Can they be turned to food like the Kelpien? Honestly I loved how those were eaten in the based universe, which is not the canon one.

>>212994882
not on screen. not canon
>>212994931
yesterdays enterprise is an alternate universe. also i conceded that there are cetacean operations, which I define as the study of cetaceans. this passing reference doesnt confirm there are whales serving as officers on the enterprise.
ultimately it comes down to one simple fact. cetacean officers are not referenced often enough for us to assume they exist. never does anyone talk about the cetaceans helping with navigation or evasive actions or anything. never does anyone talk about cetacean ops being damaged or having casualties. theres a passing reference in an alt universe and geordi asks a guest if theyve seen the dolphins...would be pretty rude to show off your crewmates like a fucking aquarium exhibit. would meet the dolphins, not see them.
cetacean ops is not a thing. just a crazy idea that was never developed because its crazy.

>>212995135
>Lieutenant and Lieutenant JG
That explains the seething, it's an ensign raging that he's outranked by two Beluga Whales.

>>212995160
correct. thats the whole point of the debat, numbnuts

>>212995220
>cetacean ops is not a thing. just a crazy idea that was never developed because its crazy.
It wasn't done because shit's expensive and assholes like you won't shut up about it.

>>212994997
>>212995058
not enough to overcome the absurdity of cetacean ops as presented in lower drecks and prodigy season 2: kurtzmans revenge
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>>212995220
That would be a funny as fuck idea for an animated series. A 10 foot whale officer who shoots water from his blowhole when he’s angry or aroused. Make him Security Chief.

>>212995220
>geordi asks a guest if theyve seen the dolphins...would be pretty rude to show off your crewmates like a fucking aquarium exhibit. would meet the dolphins, not see them.
actually an excellent point

>>212995220
Ignoring the clear goalpost moving.
>which I define as the study of cetaceans.
Please show the class any footage of anyone referring to a lab that is used to study things as 'Ops'
Or anyone keeping Dolphins as pets on a Star Fleet vessel.

>>212995442
Maybe the Dolphin crew members throw great parties like the whales in LDS.

>>212995317
it wasnt done because its fucking retarded. 2/3 of the cerritos crew sleeps in the hallway because half the ship is dedicated to whale tubes. only a retard would think thats what they meant with>>212994882
obviously the idea was for dolphins to assist with navigation because they naturally move in 3 dimensions. they were never supposed to be sentient crew members with rank and responsibility because its ridiculously impractical

>>212995478
Or why would the alternate enterprise have a have a lab to study cetacean life when Picard specifically says it's a warship and there are no children on board.

>>212995495
It's just a fun gag, dude.

>>212995495
He's still right, can you imagine the budget necessary to have actual trained dolphins on the show and building an underwater set for them? CG didn't exist either so that wouldn't be an option, let along the amount of money necessary to make them look even decent.

>>212995627
thats all that needs to be said. just a funny bit and non canon like everything else in the parody and childrens cartoons

>>212995220

> not on screen not canon!!!

Oh dear. Anyway.....

>>212995654
you dont need to show them to reference them. you can just say things like
>ensign flipper has been beamed to cetacean sickbay.
>deck 8 is flooded
>wesley, tie into cetacean ops and get us the hell out of here.
since none of that ever happens we can safely assume cetacean officers arent a thing. dolphins for study is the only sensible explanation for the 2 on screen references

IRL dolphins are creepy and do fucked up shit
don't they use puffer fish to get high and any other creature as onahole?

About to watch this for the first time
How long before I demote it to background noise?

>>212995857
the suffering is acute, background is impossible

>>212995728
thats a faggot blogger seeing what he wants to see.
if the door said arborist crew it would mean the crew that works on trees, not crewman who are trees.
again, not denying there are cetaceans on the enterprise, only saying they arent crew because as we see in lower drecks and prodigy that would be retarded

>>212995857
>>212995864
what was wrong with it? saw it in the cinema on release

>>212995927
Not now, anon.

>>212995866
Is the show finally cancelled? I won't miss whiny whisper/scream lady being unable to talk at room volume levels.

>>212995857
i think its pretty good until the climax.
should have killed picard and let shinzon live. then they could do a search for picards revenge movie.

>>212995956
Yeah they cancelled it because no one watched it

>>212995947
Fine by me, I'm off to bed then. Old men need more sleep. You're on bump duty.

>>212995909

> thats a faggot blogger seeing what he wants to see! It just is!!!

Someone should tell the official Star Trek website so they can put a stop to that. Oh, wait...

https://www.startrek.com/news/brief-history-of-cetacean-ops

>>212995986
Thank God or Q. I can finally not torture myself any longer. The Burn, right?

>KMS if they mention it again /j

>>212995956
last episode released May 2024. it was a suprise to the crew and they had to reshoot the last episode to get a finale. only wish it happened 8 years earlier.

>>212996026
STD was a study in rape.

>>212995825
>>ensign flipper has been beamed to cetacean sickbay.
>>deck 8 is flooded
>>wesley, tie into cetacean ops and get us the hell out of here.
Imagine the additional kino.

>>212995857
It's not that bad.

>>212996012
the official star trek website is not the arbitor of canon. the audience decides canon and has almost universal declared everything after berman is not canon.
trek canon has a handful of minor references to cetacean ops and none of them are evidence cetaceans are crew members, at least not like they show in LD. i wouldnt argue if you wanted to say they are crew members they way working dogs are treated like crew in real life.

>>212996055
It sure was

>>212995825
>It was mentioned to exist on the show and not just ship diagrams.
>But they didn't mention it the way I wanted, so it doesn't count.
The sad thing is even if they did use any of those lines, you'd move the goalposts further and say they don't count for some other reason because of your prejudices.
At least you aren't coping and claiming it's not canon.

>>212995495
>Whale tubes
Guess you didn't watch the show and assume every ship is a luxury liner like the Enterprise D where the lower deckers get their own quarters. They have a map of Cetacean ops and it doesn't crawl all over the ship.

>>212996059
agree theres potential. but i would prefer a seperate aquatic branch of starfleet because mixing water and oxygen enviroments is an engineering nightmare.

>>212996137

> the official star trek website is not the arbitor of canon! I am! Meeeeee!

>>212996059
1-900-star-trek alien phone sex hotline

>>212996059
There was the story where the Nav Processor broke down so they had to drop out of warp and get it repaired.

>>212996245
How would a phone sex with a Klingon work.

>>212996154
the whole point here is that cetacean ops is nothing like what they show on LD where there are huge water tubes running all around a tiny ship with dozens of ensigns sleeping in the hallway. thats retarded and if you think its not, you are retarded.
the minor references on tng and the diagrams that were never shown on screen suggest cetacean ops is like a marine biology lab not a team of hyper intellegent cetacean officers that are required for the ship to function but are not seen or referenced before or since.

You guys are obsessed!

>>212995627
Fundamentally a lot of the problems most have with lower decks is that it was simultaneously a parody AND the best that kurtztrek has to offer. So the stupid concepts it throws at you because it’s an animated comedy come off worse to those who want SOMETHING out of nutrek outside of member berries. Lower decks is decent but you won’t hear the harder trekkies say that out of sheer anger towards what the rest of the franchise became

>>212996245
Wat, wat? How do you know?

>>212996320
Dax was trans first

>>212995927
It’s wrath of khan without the character moments, tense action and well thought out plot

>>212995927
>what's wrong with it

>>212996557
Picard lost a bet.

>>212996441
they didn't needless make it cringe though. even though dax comes off as that annoying person namedropping people at parties.
>the president? hardly know him but yeah he's in my contacts.
shut. up. dax.

>>212996569
Then why was shining bald?

>>212996441
Dax was trans, jadzia and ezri were not

Time to check in on /trek/. Hope they're not being autistic about word meanings aga-

>>212996345
You've made your point.

>>212996480
Fair point, I had that at home on LaserDisc™ probably the best. Why did they drop ceti eels?

>>212996557
Okay I will shut up about Nemesis now. I guess it was nostalgia goggles. That didn't age well.

>>212996586
>>212996571
Yes, kill the symbiont.

>>212996595
How's life?

>>212996586
>Dax was trans, jadzia and ezri were not
None of them were. The worm doesn't care if it infests a man or a woman. But oh no, it has to be about trannies, because everything has to be about trannies these days. I'm so tired of that shit.

>>212996345
>the whole point here is that cetacean ops is nothing like what they show on LD where there are huge water tubes running all around a tiny ship
Except it's not that, your entire argument is cetacean ops is where the marine mammals work and they have access to the rest of the ship through a tube system you created which takes up space to the point the crew have to sleep in hallways. On the Enterprise-D, going from the information we have, it's contained to a single deck and the Cetacean ops on the USS Cerritos is only this.
Before you complain about the size, the Cetacean crew members also go on away missions as well so they can stretch their flippers that way.

>>212996410
This.

>>212996666
My coffee maker died and so did Ozzy Osborne, so not great!

Are toilets on the Enterprise D communal?

>>212995857
My bet is somewhere around the time they have a stupid dunebuggy chase in a setting where they have shuttlepods.

>>212996838
Picard and Riker get their own. Data does too but he never uses it.

>>212996793
Misses the episode where Keiko is turned young and he doesn't want to be a fucking nonce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2H_OAIhrhU

>>212996838
Its like an office building. In common areas like the bridge or engineering they have a couple "public toilets" you can see on all the schematics.
Otherwise everyone's personal quarters has their own bathroom that I don't think is ever seen except the time troi devolves into a fish-bitch in that one episode where everyone starts regressing.

>>212996666
little did we know that o'brien was an allegory for the audience
nice quads btw

>>212996881
Why would they give an android a toilet? that's fucking stupid

>>212986356

>>212997478
The ship was designed before the Captain picked a Second Officer without a digestive tract.

>>212997488
this isn't funny

>>212997488
I'm glad Lower Decks was perfect and it ended before anyone could ruin it for us.

>2 posts immediately disagreeing with each other
I really like you guys..

>>212997488
>we need to keep dropping references and have troi explain he is making a jazz joke rather than let our audience use their brain for even a second
the infantilization of media is so tiring

>>212997634
>the infantilization of media is so tiring
Nah you don't get it. This is what being old feels like. I'm sure half the modern audience didn't watch anything we did as they were not born. Some people think nu-trek is bad on purpose, but the reality is they don't make shows for seniles like us anymore as we are not market relevant ages. Who else is closer to 40 than 30?

>>212997478
Officers quarters on the galaxy class were designed with bathrooms. Just because Data doesn’t need to use the bathroom or sleep doesn’t mean they should stick him in a broom closet. He deserves a room that correlates with his rank.

Lower Decks is fucking trash. People who like it are fucking trash. The people who make it are fucking trash.

>>212997766
i never thought of it that way before but its true

>>212997766
Captain I'm picking up unprecedented amounts of based correctness emanating from this post

>>212997692
whoever it was for didnt watch it either. it barely got 50k views when they had it free on youtube

>>212997808
I love Malcolm.

>>212997896
me too

The scans show extreme levels of samefagging

>>212997634
It’s only going to get worse. Movies and TV shows are being made for Ipad babies. The Minecraft Movie, which made almost one billion dollars, had the line “General Chungus is coming to unalive us!”. We’re headed in the opposite of the Star Trek future where everyone’s getting dumber and lifespans are decreasing.

>>212997921
it's what drives me out of here, I guess we just let him fake consensus

>>212997896
>>212997913
i like him but not as much as you guys like him.
i didnt like how he would break protocol to criticize archer for not doing better protocol

>>212997980
holy fuck SOMEONE had to criticize Archer. him pushing back against some of Aecher's nonsense is why I like him as much as i do. Malcom is practically a hero.

>>212997923
i predict a divergence like the sky city. except it will probably be the other way around and the civilized people will hide underground. possible they already did it and thats why things stopped getting better.

I like the implications that the captain can choose the color of their ship's text and readout.

>>212998026
i didnt mind the criticism as much as the approach. if archer actually maintained the discipline reed wanted, reed would constantly be on report for back talking.

>>212998185
ok and if he wasn't the main character of a Star Trek show Archer would have gotten the crew killed and the ship blown up 40 times over. Malcom was correct

>>212998185
Reed wouldn’t need to talk back if Archer was disciplined. Archer plays it fast and loose and he’s overly charismatic when he should be pragmatic. Archer is a nepo captain. Love enterprise and Reed though. I got faith.

starfleet didnt send us out here to play it safe, boys.

>>212997962
It's a majority opinion in /trek/ that Lower Standards is a terrible show that has only succeeded in the further decline of the brand.

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>>212997980
Malcolm is totally and completely justified but wrong

there are no jewish characters in star trek

>>212998569
i bet hoshi is

>>212998185
A big point is that its establishing that starfleet isn't a military organization, even if sometimes they do get militaristic.
Sure you have some guys who are meatheads there for the action, and that's why the security branch is full of redshirts ready to die.
But you've also got people who are there as scientist and explorers.
Reed was raised by autistic navy men, he came out of the womb with a deck brush.

>>212998482
If that's the case, you wouldn't have to samefag so hard.
Or the fact you just gave up your plausible deniability because you needed to whine some more.

>>212998477
*gets kidnapped again*

>>212998664
>everyone with this opinion is actually one guy samefagging!

>>212998482
>>212998796
stop engaging with the velmatranny

>>212998819
Velma S03 when?

"K'Ehleyr... was my mate"

>>212999384
Based
Based
Based
Based
Based

Solid evening.

>>212999384
I just now realized that TOS->DS9 get the comfy primetime slots. While VOY and ENT are in the late nite graveyard. The 1PM slot should be all the fucked up horror episodes that you would stumble upon in the middle of the night.

>>212999471
>I just now realized that TOS->DS9 get the comfy primetime slots. While VOY and ENT are in the late nite graveyard.
Just like it used to be

>>212999471
They’re also all in chronological order of when their respective series aired. TOS through Enterprise all in order.

>Enterprise
>Season 5: Start of Romulan War, losing
>Season 6: Middle/End of Romulan War, winning
>Season 7: Founding the federation
How hard would this have been?

>>212999926
It’d be great if H&I would air the commercials that also aired alongside those shows. Make it a real time capsule.
>It’s 10::00 PM. Do you know where your children are?

>>213000186
They should've just done more actual prequel shit to begin with instead of repackaging TNG/VOY plots in the first two seasons and the Xindi detour in the third (as much as I like the Xindi)

>>213000186
but I just....wouldn't want to watch that.

>>213000402
they were okay on prequel shit, what they should have skipped was TEMPORAL ANYTHING.

>>213000402
I don't blame audiences for ditching
>VOY is ending
>okay, Star Trek is starting to get really stale
>new series is announced the same year, it's a prequel series set 100 years before TOS (200 years before the TNG era)
>it promises to be a new, different kind of Star Trek; a little rougher around the edges, lower tech, astronauts instead of officers
>first season airs
>episodes are slow and boring, acting is flat
>many episodes are just ripoffs of TNG/DS9/VOY (like the guy who makes fake hologram friends)

>>213000402
Rare xindi enjoyer. Based, anon. >>213000462
Really?!? You have no interest in seeing the Romulan war? For me that’s the biggest disappointment of what we didn’t get out of enterprise.
>>213000584
Temporal everything should’ve been skipped, yes. At most it should’ve been one fun throw away episode.

>>213000683
>Really?!? You have no interest in seeing the Romulan war?
Absolutely none whatsoever. first of all, I don't want another trek about a war. second, i actually thought it was neat and cool that the war was conducted in such a way that the Romulans remained virtually unknown. i don't want that intriguing aspect and the mystique it gave them shat all over upon. you know it would end up shit anyway.

>>212997715
>Just because Data doesn’t need to use the bathroom or sleep doesn’t mean they should stick him in a broom closet.
Kek that reminds me we never got more cozy Night Shift kino. It would have made for a nice Picard Lite episode.

>>213000733
>you know it would end up shit anyway.
idk anon, ent had finally found its footing imo when they canned it

>>213000993
I think watching Archer fight a war against Romulans would end with me blowing my brains out

>>213000980
>>212997715
Data should have slept in a closet

>>213001136

>>213001053
Kek. That’s all you anon, I still would’ve liked to have seen it

>>213001053
sounds like fun. can you show me how?

>>213000980
A night shift episode of TNG would’ve been comfy and kino

>>213001181
suspension of disbelief only works up to a point, man.

>>213001228
not far enough

>>213001442
Damar side-eye/glare is the absolute best

>>212998796
The samefag thou protests too much me thinks.

A real Starfleet crew would've explained the Wormhole aliens and the origin of the wormhole by the end of 7 fucking seasons. It wouldn't have become spiritual mumbo jumbo. Kira would've had to come to terms with her gods being explained, and she would've joined Starfleet.

>>213001545
That would have been boring as fuck, I'm happy you're not a writer

The Omega Directive is such a TOS title for an episode. Love it.

>>213001545
>>>/wsg/5930000

>>213001611
Literally 95% of Star Trek is about them explaining unexplained space phenomena. Come to think of it, it's dumb that Q was never explained either. TNG was retarded in that regard as well.

>>212999384
Jellikino

>>213001545
the EU was about to get close to explaining the prophets when a sect of atheist bajorans blew up one of the moons and found a structure that they believe is how the wormhole was constructed but the pisscard show coming out forced pocket books to erase the EU just like what happened with star wars

>>213001757
Interesting.

>your name is teapot

>>213001615
TOS had such bombastic eye catching titles while TNG had one word nebulous titles like "Liaisons".

>>213001881
Voyager is worse for plain one-word titles
>Phage
>Faces
>Jetrel
>Elogium
>Tattoo
>Meld
>etc.
meanwhile TOS has kino titles such as For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky

>>212996838
God, I hope not. Can you imagine having to follow a Klingon that's been eating fresh ga'gh? I think I'd jettison myself out the airlock first. While the ship is in warp.

>>213001666
TOS never explained what Trelane exactly was, you see the problem? Explaining everything makes for a really bad series because it then there's no mysteries for the audience to solve.
Like Cetacean Ops

>>213002023
Trelane was an energy alien. Also he was based and fun. The wormhole aliens were lame like the guy on TNG who turned into a glowing guy. I get what you're saying but they're not one-off. They're central to the entire story and nobody bothers explaining them.

>>212997536
Yes it is. You're just a humorless scold.

alright then, since he thinks we're samefags here's the samefag test
https://strawpoll.com/poy9klWdwgJ

>>213001875
Where’d you get this picture of my wife and I?

>Strawpoll
>Where's it's piss easy to fake the results with proxies
>And they steal your cookies
LMAO

>>212998482
>hurr durr muh majority opinion!
>u must conform! be a sheep! baah! baaaaaah!
no thank you sir

>>213002023
I mean, TOS was full of space magic, like when they found the aliens who were actually greek gods, or the numerous psychic/illusion powers they find across a dozen episodes
TNG is when they decided to full on keep the plots and jargon scientific as best they could

>>213002018
>Having to use the bathroom after Worf
>Having to use the bathroom after Tilly

>>212998569
Plenty of Jewish actors, though...like Shatner and Nimoy.

What's his deal?

>>213001545
a real crew wouldnt stay in the same place for 7 years

>>213002138
>>213002153
You seem extremely upset.

>>212984951
>>212996793
still no sign of the old trek grandpa.
hey, wouldn't it be funny if the old trek grandpa was ozzy osbourne, and my constant needling drove up his blood pressure and became the fatal finishing blow?

>>212997692
>Who else is closer to 40 than 30?
More like closer to 50 than 40, given the demographics of this general.

>>213002239
I'm just saying, imagine Data just shrugging off wormhole aliens without questioning them constantly. As an audience member, I don't care about Bajor and their stupid religion. They basically did one episode and that was Keiko and her school and then it was just everyone accepted them as gods. It's anti-Trek imo.

So a Bajoran laborer and a Cardassian officer walk into a bar on Terok Nor. The Cardassian says to the Bajoran, "Clean this entire place before I get back or you're going into solitary confinement for a week." The Bajoran gets to work immediately.
The Cardassian officer comes back an hour later with his guards and lo and behold the bar is spotless.
"Good work, Bajoran. This is the cleanest I've ever seen this place. Guards, take this man to solitary confinement."
Hahahaha

>>213002257
>Fake results to reaffirm your opinion
>Spam it in future threads to try to make yourself look like it's the majority in order to avoid any discussion of merit
Just pointing out the methods of your madness.

>>212998569
>there are no jewish characters in star trek
Levy

>>213002329
I sense anger and hostility.

>>213002336
Lwaxana Troi is the essence of a jewish mother in law.

>>213002365
From yourself? We know.

>>213002329
>3 votes to 2
>y-you're faking the p-poll
fucks sake anon lighten up

>>213002422
he can't, watching too much nutrek made him retarded

>>213002366
That makes the Ent-D a Jewish household because everyone puts up with her shit year after year. And remember, sexual harassment and unwanted advances are okay if you’re a woman!

>>213002366
I’d fuck lwaxana, she always reminded me of my grandmother

>>213002464
many such cases

>>213002422
It's a common bandwagon fallacy tactic to create a poll, then rig it to make it look like your opinion is the majority one.
It doesn't help that the guy who made it has an irrational hatred of shows like LDS and continues to resort to strawmen showing clear bias.

>>213002479
>>213002485
>Alexander, have you ever taken a mudbath?
>Don't tell your dad, this will be our little secret

>>213002532
Sorry anon but triple dubs don't lie >>212997766
maybe you should go cry about it on /co/

>>213002532
i see
currently its 6 to 3 with the No's winning
so i guess nutrekfags are proxyfagging to rig the poll by your logic?

>>213002577
Only messages from the dubminion carry weight.

>>213002577
worthy digits accompany worthy posts

>>213002607
Worry not, the dubminion is strong and generous to it's allies.

>>213002491
love when paramount announced they were doing animated shorts with the old actors but no one said they were gonna be parodies with fart and puke jokes
star trek!

>>213002593
Not my problem, I haven't checked it.

>>213002306
There are plenty of divine entities in Star Trek. What about The Q? Apollo? Gary Seven? Trelane? The Douwd? Nagilum? Ø (i.e. the one at the end of Star Trek V)? Or Null, the entity so powerful that the Q had to put up the Great Galactic Barrier to keep him out? Doesn't seem like an atheist show to me.

>>213002674
>I am tired of Earth. These people.
>I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.
>>213002722
lies and deceit

>>213002102
And? If you solve all the mysteries, it becomes boring. And creating a bunch of mary sues that can explain everything is also boring. Leaving up to interpretation is a big reason these threads won't die because it creates endless fodder for speculation.

>>213002749
>Doesn't seem like an atheist show to me.
Having cosmic power is not the same as having rightful dominion.

>>213002769
if you have cosmic power it doesnt matter if your dominion is rightful or taken by force

>>213002757
I'm sensing much butthurt from you.

>>213002593
The poll would seem to be skewed toward joiners and other herd mentalities. Sheep, who can't stand contrary opinions, and bleat endlessly when confronted with one. I will continue to have my own opinions. Deal with it.

>>213002798
what happened to your "everyone is a schizophrenic pedophile btw my dad raped me and i beat up a rastafarian at a gas station" routine

>>213002749
>Gary Seven
I don't understand why you guys constantly mention Gary Seven. He consistently says in the episode that he's human and was raised on an alien world, trained by the aliens to help humanity. Anyway. Explain the wormhole aliens or at least pretend to have a debate about it. It's gay.

>>213002793
you're just so upset about a strawpoll you say you haven't looked at
it seems like you're interested but pretending to be detached
what a faggot
>>213002798
we've established that the winners must be proxyfagging

>>213002823
>Explain the wormhole aliens
what about them requires explanation exactly?

>>213002819
it's not monday

>>213002769
A life form has to die for you to eat. Even plants scream when they get harvested, but it takes a galvanic-response meter (e.g. a lie detector) for us to see it. Even fruit involves the death of the plants' unborn children. If you don't have rightful dominion over these life forms, then doesn't that make you a terrible person? And so the Q toy with the human race (and many other species), the Douwd wipes out an entire species for displeasing him, Nagilum wanted to continue killing Enterprise crew members for his personal edification, etc.

>>213002819
isnt that a different anon
i swear he's the anti-smoking anon that pops up in madmen threads too
or maybe it's 3 different schizos with the same pathology

>>213002846
I'm just mocking your bandwagon fallacy attempt because it was so blatant and now you're butthurt over it.

>>213002848
You shifted the question. I'm done.

>>213002874
i wasn't the one talking to you but i did backread and not understand what you want explained about them. hence, i asked.

>>213002871
anon you've convinced me that strawpolls are all rigged with proxies is it so hard to believe you convinced somebody?

>>213002769
>having rightful dominion
>You have to be a slave to an invisible sky magician
This is why I'll never take organized religion seriously. More than it's already designed by nature to be a form of government to control people.

>>213002906
Fair enough. Explained means explained. I want them explained. Where did the wormhole come from? Did they construct it? Did they used to be corporeal? Who put them in the wormhole? No, we get none of that, we just get expansion of mysticism with Space Jesus and the pah wraiths.

>>213002782
Quite the opposite. Might doesn't make right. Just because no one can stop you doesn't mean you are supposed to. It just makes you wrong and unstoppable.

>>213002962
priests who want to rule as kings must rule by trickery

>>213002869
It's that similar flavor of schizophrenia

>>213003008
i think its that in the far future bajorans ascend to energy beings and they go back in time to build the wormhole to make sure everything happens to their ancestors as it's supposed to

>>213002962
You have an Occidental view of religion. Oriental religions are much more about personal sovereignty than invisible sky daddies who write rule books.

>>213003023
And that's the problem, anything can go unpunished if it's done in the name of God.

>>213003078
Hence why I say organized religion, I got no issue if a person wants to be spiritual and keep it to themselves, but if they start forcing it on others, then I take exception.

>>213003008
>Where did the wormhole come from?
i thought it was just a space anomaly. if we knew where they came from we could probably make them it wouldn't be a special thing.

>Did they construct it?
probably not?

>Did they used to be corporeal?
they didn't understand corporeal existence so it's safe to assume not.

>Who put them in the wormhole?
why would someone have put them there? it's just where they live. there's been other creatures like that before and it wasn't required to trace their origins and evolution.

they're asshole aliens who can fuck with time travel and Bajorans think they're gods. it's not hard to grasp idk

>>213003022
we're not talking about government we're talking about cosmic beings with god powers
pic rel, nagilum is evil as shit by our standards but to him he's just being curious
if he's unstoppable then he can enforce his idea of right or wrong on whoever he wants

>>213003129
>if he's unstoppable then he can enforce his idea of right or wrong on whoever he wants
that doesn't make him actually right. It makes him a villain.

>>213003034
>>213002869
He loves repeating himself, going in circles, saying the same thing over and over

>>213003176
human morality dictates it as wrong yes
but to a noncorporeal psychic godhead does morality actually matter? does it exist in it's culture in some form? maybe or maybe not
>be nagilum
>find a ship full of lil aliens
>experiment on them
>oh no i broke some
>dang
>their leader says i am bad and evil for doing this
>hmmm
>no i think im right
>break the rest of them just to be sure
>no more lil aliens
>dont feel wrong
>still feel like im right
>i guess i wasnt evil and the little aliens were wrong

Star Trek Enterprise is peak Trek

Reminds of the episode from The Orville with the time dilation planet where the natives start worshiping one of the crew as a god and it's basically a mirror to the rise of Christianity, then the episode ends with the race learning to become atheists themselves, but also saying that religion's role was still necessary for their cultural evolution.

>>213003343
mixed feelings
when ENT gets it right it's super comfy
when ENT gets it wrong it's pretty fucken bad
and dont get me started on crewman daniels and a season of time travel bullshit

>>213003385
seth macfarlane is such a smug cunt

>>213003218
same vibes in this cap
ur right its the same psychological framing kek

>>213003444
But he ain't wrong.

Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>213003504
>implying humanity is capable of leaving religion behind
we tried that and now people worship politics or the government and the world is markedly worse off without the masses having easy to digest morality imposed upon them by religious institutions

>>213003218
>october 2023
ok this is some next level obsession you got here

>>213003579
we discuss you often in the discord

>>213003570
>not mentioning people turning their sexuality into religious cults
>not mentioning others returning to worshipping the sun and fighting the evils of carbon dioxide
>not mentioning others worshipping corporations through endless consumption of plastics merch
It's all so tiresome.

>>213003570
Nah, people still use organized religion to force their views on everyone else, which we're still in governments and cults of personality. And they're also doing anything and everything to keep people divided and then blame others for it you. You even see that behavior in these threads regularly.
Human nature is fucked and actually getting people to unify instead of being at each others throats because of political culture war of the week would be a good start.
We're still far away from that since if IIRC, there was a 700 year jump from where the alien race was about where we were, and then evolving past organized religion too. So we got a long way to go before we can declare FUBAR.

>>213003444
His trek is better than nuTrek. This is indisputable.

>>213003621
you don't even know who i am, so by definition, your discord is schizo

>>213003701
Sad but true. I liked Orville more than DS9, VOY, and ENT combined.

>>213003579
is funny

>>213003701
>>213003775
Yaphit: Hey! If we match the deflector amplitude to the quantum wave function, it should compensate for any field instability!
LaMarr: I like when you talk dirty.

Both The Orville and Lower Decks did a good job of examining what's life like for those serving in the Federation (Or the Union) but aren't the best of the best, or just lack the ambition to climb up the ladder because they're content with where they are.

>>213003828
....is this really what it's like?

>>213003821
t. next level schizo, posted by another next level schizo

>>213003621
you discuss nut sacks too lmao

>>213003696
correct, humans are hardwired to seek something to make divine
and in the absence of one they will find or invent one
>>213003698
i've come to the realization that at least half of humanity is too dumb to be told "this is right and wrong" without some big powerful religious framework to coerce them into following those morals
and this coincides with education being gutted and the rise of AI, people are about to get giga-dumb over the next few decades

>>213003838
Yeah except Lower Decks makes a mockery of an established franchise setting while The Orville is its own thing

>>213003884
Making fun of bad writing and filling in plot holes left by older trek series is something that should always be done.

>>213003843
I wish it was more like that, actually. The show does a great job of parodying Star Trek.
In one episode, the android (Isaac) has to care for someone's kids for a while. When it's over, he tells their mom "Your children are unruly, disrespectful, volatile, and highly unpredictable. I am quite fond of them."
If you want some chilling Black Mirror shit, watch the "Majority Rules" episode. It'll remind you of the grandpas and their blatantly stacked poll.
I could go on. It's totally worth checking out.

>>213003917
Right on man, down with sincerity! Up with post-irony!

>>213003940
>He'd gone full ironic Pakled

>>213003863
The problem is organize religion and politicians create the very social and economical situations forcing people to believe they need that sort of framework that organized religion provides in to survive creating a species wide abusive relationship. Of course gutting education is a plan for controlling people and forcing them to adopt organized religion, an educated species is one who will realized how badly they're being fucked socially and economically.

>>213003934
"parody of Star Trek" doesn't sound like something I'm interested in

Joss Whedon, Kevin Smith, the Russos, and many more have destroyed television and film.
When fiction no longer takes itself seriously, then neither can the audience.
Meta humor. Self-aware fourth wall breaks. Lampshading. These kind of tropes have ruined entertainment. Even the corniest TOS plots were played completely straight, except for when the writers intended it to be funny.

>>213004049
That's fine with me. It's OK to have different opinions. If only our old-trek grandpas would figure that out, instead of creating embarrassing "polls" and samefagging fake "consensus". Besides, it's not all parody.
Seriously, "Majority Rules", as well as the two part "Identity" episode, are worth watching all by themselves, and are not parodies.

> Star Trek Discovery I think will age pretty well in the years to come

So say we all.

>>213004154
Your "side" is literally winning the poll and yet you're gonna be here seething about it for the next two days

>>213004146
i get it, you don't like comedy. accept that you're not going to change how i feel about comedy

>>213004146
>even the B-movie directors and made for TV movies and middling quality shows from pre-2010 are of significantly higher quality than anything since whedon was allowed to direct capeslop
its all so tiresome

>>213004199
he all but admitted to proxy voting

and completely by coincidence it starts posting aids infected twitter screenies

>>213004199
I haven't looked at the poll, and I don't care what the result is. I'm neither a follower nor a joiner.

>>213004179
is this a tranny?

>>213004258
LOOK AT IT
LOOK AT IT
LOOK AT IT

>>213004199
And yet you're the one butthurt and bringing it up unpromptly.
Curious

>>213004281
>cheating with proxyfagging
do nutrek posters really?

>>213004179
Damn, leftoid horrors beyond my imagination just love that corporate slop that serves as massive tax write offs.

>>213004257
the oldfag sure is obsessed with this tranny, isn't he? i never even heard of "jessie gender" until the oldfag repeatedly spammed its name. it's like he never heard of the streisand effect or something. compete lack of strategic thought

Shaxs is a fun character

>>213004281
wow, 12 whole votes. such incredible user engagement. does whoever made this poll actually believe anyone is going to change their mind because of the results? i can't even think down to that bovine level

>>213004331
>says he won't look at it
>looks at it
you have weak willpower

>>213004331
>>213004281
I voted no just to be a contrarian

>>213004329
"Captain, I recommend we eject the warp core."
"No."
"Aw, C'MON!"
kek

>>213004281
Fuck NuTrek

>>213004355
i looked at the screenshot because it was posted here. wow, you genuinely have a difficult time comprehending that people have different opinions & even go so far as to not care about proselytizing. it makes me wonder what the hell is going on inside your head. too bad you're not interesting enough to be a psychological case study

>>213004414
of course i understand
im making fun of you :)
do you comprehend that?

>>213004281
>>213004408
t. obsessed, insecure, bully, petty tyrant, has never had sex

Lemme write a Lower Decks episode
>WOW this is JUST like the time on Tee En Gee where they met the Blorphon from Braptopia 7!
>Tee En Gee?
>You know, Picard, Worf, those guys on the Big D! I call them Those New Guys.
Damn that's so easy, this is comedy gold already. Six more seasons.

>>213004414
Or someone seething enough to do this >>213004408

What do we think about Hoshi? Do you think starfleet taught about her language skills and influence in correlation to the universal translator?

>>213004460
That's actually way funnier than anything they did

Let's celebrate our love of NuTrek in this very special edition of /trek/
>>213004552

>>213004522
HIRE ME MIKE

>>213004441
and why would i care what you think of me? you've given me every reason to write you off as a waste of oxygen

>>213004595
He can't hire you. He's been NEETing since Lezzie Dykes got CANCELED for being too WOKE for new Trump-friendly Paramount

>>213004680
you're easy to bait
see you in the next thread

>reddit buzzwords
election tourists will always baffle me.

>>213001730
comic for ants

Best /trek/ vidya?

>>213004722
you may be a master baiter, but i'm a cunning linguist

>>213005003
starfleet command 2

>>213004281
>>213004408
Well, I just held my own poll, in a different thread, and got a fantastic response. Then I deleted it. You'll have to obsessively dig through the archives to find that thread, but you seem well up to that challenge. Anyway, the poll confirms, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you're pathetic. So be a good sheep and baaah along with the crowd.

>>213004718
And yet Paramount just renewed South Park for 5 seasons, for $1.5 billion. Despite the fact they tweak Trump all the time, even dedicating a gay, occasionally trans character to stand in for Trump. So much for your "muh Trump" theory. What pathetic encore can we look forward to from you?

>>213004552
>>213004552
>>213004552

>>212997536
agreed

>>213005118
>>213005160
keep going, it amuses me

>>213002306
Data would say they're non-corporeal aliens that live in the wormhole and that would really be the end of it, which is what we got

>>213005191
Oh, so now you like comedy. It's difficult to keep up with your sudden personality changes. I don't really speak schizo.

can someone remind me what episode this is from? it seems to have slipped my mind for some reason

on the other hand, you don't have to tell me what episode this is from. i remember it clearly

>>213004179
>especially in appreciating is sat time risky, sometimes failing yet always earnest attempt to deal with
What? It's like he hit autocomplete on his phone until he hit the character limit

>>212995654
Seaquest DSV managed to pull it off.(possibly inspired by the unused trek concept?) Maybe they could've repurposed the alien hot tub from the ep with Sarek.