I don't get it.

>90 minute meal at a restaurant
Who does this?

Tell me more

>>213001188
Not uncommon for multi course dining with wine pairings.

>>213001156 (OP)
The part about New York being the new model for the new concentration camp stuck with me

>>213001188
What a trenchant insight

>>213001188
anon...

>>213001268
Quite the bon mot

>>213001278
Tell me more.

>>213001313
Definition: A bon mot is a clever, witty, or humorous saying or comment

>>213001156 (OP)
I don't either, there aren't enough youtube explainers discussing it for me to have my own opinion of it. When I tried watching it on my own I fell asleep about 3 minutes in and never watched it again.

>you will never have a friend to have a dinner with

>>213001188
I'd say that's a fairly average meal time, at least for the average American

>>213001268
was anything else interesting said in the whole movie?
this is the only interesting topic i can remember

>>213001156 (OP)
I think that this is something that you really need to be familiar with the mood of the times to really get.
Ps. Since this is a big word thread, I also considered the use of 'Zeitgeist' and 'Gestalt' but opted to keep the tone casual.

>>213001188
Me at korean bbq places where you grill the food yourself.

>>213001156 (OP)
the gist is it's about the realization you've self-isolated to a bubble and your apprehension to step outside is holding you back from greater intrigue, potential, fulfillment. he starts the movie having a preconceived negative notion of Andre then came to realize he's naturally developed into a far more interesting, multifaceted, contemplative person.

>>213001932
That's deep, did you high school gym teacher tell you that before he molested you?

>>213001979
not that deep. however, deeper than your micropenis can ever reach.

>>213002024
I was only goofing around and you had to take it too far.

>>213001747
Not sure. I've only watched clips on youtube

>>213001188
People with friends who enjoy each other's company. The fact that you have to ask...

>>213002118
my friend i only meant to reciprocate.

Can I watch My Dinner With Andre as a podcast?

This should have just been an off-broadway play.

>>213002296
not really. the facial expressions are half the film. also the intro and ending are very visual.

>>213002507
The INCONCEIVABLE guy from Princess Bride is in this?

>>213002507
Oh, now I get it.

>>213002664
Yes. He's Rex from Toy Story as well.
He also sounds like Curtis Armstrong from Revenge of the Nerds

>>213002664
he and the other actor wrote it, yeah
playing fictionalized versions of themselves

>>213002664
He was in Star Trek too.

> Listen well, Quark, my boy: I would never give up my holographic blanket. I mean, because Ferenginar is cold in the winter. I mean, the Tower of Commerce is cold! And it's always winter on Ferenginar. It's a difficult environment, not fit for even a Breen. I mean, our life is tough enough as it is. I'm not looking for ways to get rid of the material possessions that provide relief and comfort, for a reasonable price. I mean, on the contrary, I'm looking for more opportunities to raise sales of consumable goods, because the market is very lucrative. I mean, I'm trying to protect us all because, really, there's these potential profits to be acquired everywhere you look!

>>213001893
I find your post shallow and pedantic.

>>213001156 (OP)
>two people are in the artistic community
>one guy is cynical and worried about his plays not making him any money because he's poor
>the other guy went to europe and did a bunch of hippie shit in a commune that reinvigorated his passion for art
>these two positions are foils to each other, each with their own pros and cons
>do you want to be pragmatic and "successful", or do you want to be libertine and "fulfilled"?
It's not really that difficult to understand.

>>213002713
Wallace Shawn is one of the most ineresting guys in Hollywood. He's one of those guys I wish had managed to land a role that won him an Oscar.

>>213002751
Your post is shallow and pedantic.

>>213002758
He's a character actor. They don't get nominations.

>>213001188
you're not scarfing down a sandwich on your lunch break you swine

>>213002691
>>213002697
>>213002713
>three genuine replies in less than a minute
Thanks guys. Perhaps I'll check this out. I only know this film from the hilarious Simpsons scene.

>>213002870
This is my favorite of all the Simpsons movie jokes.

two neurotic New York Jewish intellectuals have a long conversation over dinner and it goes exactly how you'd expect

>>213002870
You should view it as less of a movie and more like a podcast or eavesdropping on a conversation. It doesn't have a plot.

>>213002870
Tell US more.

>>213002907
>It doesn't have a plot.
Wally increasingly becomes disillusioned with his former best friend Andre, as Wally sees that Andre has become increasingly disconnected with day-to-day reality. Wally has to work for a living, and Andre lives in a fantasy dream world that only the idle rich can afford.

There's something very comfy about watching scenes from this movie. It has powerful ASMR effects. The way the characters' voices sound feels very good.

>>213002889
>This is my favorite of all the Simpsons movie jokes.
You sound like you know your Simpsons stuff. Another favorite of mine is the Waterworld arcade game. Some guy expanded it into a short game, it's pretty funny. Not sure how old it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja8ypygveLY

>>213003041
Another favorite of mine is "Barton Fink! Barton Fink!"

Also the episode where Bart, Milhouse, and Nelson use Bart's fake ID to get into the R-Rated Naked Lunch movie.

>>213002993
Andre's voice is very soothing and it feels like your ease dropping on their conversation.

>>213001156 (OP)
It's the first podcast ever

>>213003081
>use Bart's fake ID to get into the R-Rated Naked Lunch movie.
>I can think of at least two things wrong with that title
The sign is a subtle joke...
I'm just kidding. Yeah that's another great one.

>>213002751
>wanting to be fulfilled
sounds kind of gay famalam

Did Andre do drugs in Europe?

>>213001188
Do Americans really just shovel food into their mouths as fast as possible?

I unironically strive to live their lives, from an intellectual standpoint at least.

>>213003541
I've got shit to do.

>>213003541
I eat most of my meals in 10 minutes, maybe 15 if theres a lot of food

>>213001156 (OP)
The movie is about being asleep vs being awake, and what that even means.

Andre is a guy desperate to be awake at whatever cost. He doesn't really show it beyond the mania behind his extensive monologues, but he perhaps is implied to be near a nervous breakdown (it was noted that he was seen crying by a friend of Wally in the beginning). This is why he is flying all over across the world doing insane shit. Yet, it seems to not really be working for him. When he is talking about people castrating themselves just to feel something, he is using a hyperbolic example to talk about himself and his dissatisfaction.

Andre mentions differing attempts by different groups trying to find ways to stay awake. Andre notes that Roc, a mathematician friend, tries to be awake by fighting habits. (Opening the door with a different hand for example). The Findhorn community and the art group in Poland are more examples of engaging in wild behavior, which is contrasted the "concentration camp" that is New York.

Wally rightly points out that one shouldn't have to fly to Mount Everest just to feel alive. One needs to find ways to appreciate the little things in their own life. (They both conclude that spending time with loved ones is a path towards achieving this) Wally serves to anchor down Andre, who is seek the right thing, but in the wrong way. Yet, Wally himself seems to be a person that has fallen into habit. He is willing to fight to the death for his electric blanket, because life is hard enough without his creature comforts. While I think there is some acknowledgement that stripping creature comforts away isn't the right approach, the film also sympathizes with the idea that in a way you are shutting yourself off to a whole bunch of things by drowning yourself in it.

>>213003662

One way in that both Andre and Wally are not mindful, is that they are privileged enough to spend 2 hours pontificating at a restaurant while people such as the waiter have to serve and likely doesn't have the time to worry such things. Their creature comforts and class nullifies their awareness of others to an extent, in a similar way to the doctor anecdote that Andre describes earlier in the movie.

In the end, the film settles on a middle ground. You shouldn't have to engage in all these crazy practices to feel awake, but if you are living by habit, then you aren't really living.

2/2

>>213003690
>One way in that both Andre and Wally are not mindful
They also aren't even aware that the restaurant closes while they were talking.

>>213002713
Watch out before I call section 31 on your ass.

Isnt much to get.

It's two aging middleclass theatre professionasl, navalgazing about their own pointless existence, disillusionment in life and the future of human kind in the way that only that kind of people can.

They could have made an interesting film, but were just lazy or so creatively bankrupt that they couldnt find a better way of filming a 2 hour dialoge in any other way than medium shot, reversed medium shot. No interesting blocking, no dynamic use of the location, no interesting juxtapostioning with the characters in the room.

Doesnt help that Andre has the croakiest voice ever put on tape and is a horrible and boring story teller. Keeps on droning with pointless anectdote after anecdote that adds no drama to the scene, no tension, no release, no reveal of some interesting incident or thought that brings conflict of thought or interest into the dialoge. It's just Andre having a verbal diarreah and Wallace just nodding along, bringing little to nothing to the conversation other than just agreeing with whatever Andre says and occationally looking slightly confused or bemused.

It's just so fucking tedious I got kinda angry watching it.
There are a hundred ways they could have made this interesting but it's just two disillusioned aging hippes wasting two hours of your life with their pointless manifesto.

I'm sure this was interesting in the late 70s or whenever it came out, but these days it just sounds like Jordan Peterson monologuing at a clone of himself after having eaten an edible. Just an endless wordsalad of nothing.

>>213004286
Thanks chat gpt!

>>213004286
I feel once you get past Andre droning about his adventures in Europe, it's a really interesting conversation.

Andre more like BLANDre.

Wally won.

>>213002664
Who else would be having dinner with Andre the Giant?

>>213003662
>>213003690
Best itt

>>213003541
We do because we understand the more time we spend at a restaurant without eating or ordering anything is more time undercutting profits from a potential customer. Sorry you're a piece of shit ruining small local business but here we look out for each other.

>>213005726
He's eating fifty dinners per dinner in heaven now...

>>213001747

>>213002889
For me it's gotta be the Rashomon joke.

>>213002507
Needs lo fi beats and Family Guy playing in the bottom right

>>213005897
I am glad that you liked it.

>>213006576

I see nothing wrong with this. We live in a capitalistic society, earning money should be the endgame of one's life as it's what makes you a productive member of society. Art and music are just distractions.

>>213009290
based and zogpilled

>>213002273

You need to watch this to get it

My Breakfast With Blassie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCJM8wvcg8

>>213001188
Mutts

>>213001188
That's completely normal. Usually it's longer in a restaurant with cloth napkins.

>>213003690
>>213003662
>>213005897
Andre is a retard who clearly has done too many drugs, and this is based on the ramblings of the writer himself who also did too many drugs IRL.
>ahhh everyone has ELECTRIC BLANKETS
>they're so COMFORTABLE
Meanwhile he makes no points and meanders all over the place trying to insist that his experiences are somehow more authentic than others when really there's nothing to show for it.
Wally is a pure comedic character, we open the film with the line: "I used to think about art and music, now all I think about is money"
And after dinner, he notes "Andre even paid for everything!"
Ultimately Wally is metaphorically both the audience and the actor himself. He got paid to sit down and listen to Andre ramble, and got nothing out of it.
The audience also, gets nothing out of listening to Andre ramble.

It's more fun to laugh at how stupid the film is than to discuss the ideas within it and that should tell you everything.
:^)

>>213001156 (OP)
>>213003662
>>213003690
>>213011751
>One way in that both Andre and Wally are not mindful, is that they are privileged enough to spend 2 hours pontificating at a restaurant while people such as the waiter have to serve and likely doesn't have the time to worry such things.
Give me a fucking break you retarded 110 IQ faglord. That's their fucking jobs. They don't HAVE to do their jobs, dumbass cunt.
>oh the waiters are just so underprivileged doing their jobs
Get the dick out of your fucking eye you judgeful cunt. They're in New York working fine dining.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-make-100000-as-a-waiter-in-nyc-2016-6
^ You can make 6 figures doing that and it's not hard whatsoever.
God damn you really know jack shit about the world and then you pontificate out of your asshole with the most boring and semi-marxist twitter-leftist screed that a fucking monkey could shit out with the name of the movie and chatGPT open.
>dey aren't very mindful having a meal actually they could be serving the homeless
Fuck off faggot that's so fucking contrived as a response to a FILM.
>In the end, the film settles on a middle ground. You shouldn't have to engage in all these crazy practices to feel awake, but if you are living by habit, then you aren't really living.
Clearly in the end evolution settled on a midwit tier intelligence for your brain if your "take" is literally just whatever the characters said at face value.

Yeesh.

>>213011751
>>213011815

>>213011833
>you didn't like the movie that impresses people with a midwit level IQ? (110-130)
>omg noooo
Midwit located :D

>>213011850
Is that just it? Are you just bored?

>>213001156 (OP)
>>213006576
This movie is being brought up because zoomers can't believe that character is 36 (Actor was 37)

>>213002664
>>213002507
>>213001156 (OP)
I just found out this jew is literally a communist who hates white people.
I hope he dies.
No I never saw your quirky reddit swordfighting movie.

>>213004286
So it's basically just a podcast.
We already got plenty of those and much more interesting.

>>213006576
T-thirty-six is young!

>>213012189
it is. Wallace Shawn was literally broke before he turned 40.

>>213012098
I don't know, he's kind of based. In a recent interview he said Israelis are worse than Nazis.

>>213012061
why wouldn't zoomers believe it? they all look completely busted in their 20s, they'll definitely be on par with this in 10 years

>>213006814
That's not how I remember it

>>213013981
DENTAL PLAN

>>213001932
I found Andre coming off a bit more like a flake who pissed around for years and is desperately trying to justify it to Wallace. Much in the same vein as dumb women who go off "Trying to find themselves" and come back with nothing to show for it and no progress made in life. Especially when it's mentioned that Andre was "unstable"

>>213014009
LISA NEED BRACES

>>213001156 (OP)
Hey dude I was mind blown by this nothingness of a long ass movie. I tried watching it and got bored. Next fucking level bored. I re in force OP's question. I' second it

>>213014105
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY GRILLED

>>213001156 (OP)
I used to have riveting conversations like this with people in college. Now I can barely yap for 3 sentences without boring myself since most people I talk to have basically zero internal life.

>>213012098
An actual antizionist jew that goes as far as calling israelis nazis? Eeeeeee-nconceivably based.

>>213014579
You're a grown man who lives with his mom.

>>213014694
I bought my own home in suburbs and live with my wife who makes me dinner every night when I get home

>>213001156 (OP)
Community did it better

>>213014795
Uh huh that's why you're on 4chan in a my dinner with andre thread bro