>Superman gets his ass beat for 2 hours: the movie

>>213006781 (OP)
I didn't mind the movie, but I thought it was stupid that Lex is giving verbal commands that then have to be followed, by the guy faster than bullets can't just punch his opponent before Lex speaks.

i get knocked down starts playing

>NO NO NO Superman is a terrible character because he's too powerful
>NO NO NO you can't show him struggling

>>213006873
The struggle should be with saving lives
And geopolitics
Not getting punched in the face

>>213006925
>The struggle should be with saving lives
is what he does all the movie , he also solos Engineer and his clone

>>213006830
You can’t really go logic when it comes to Superman or capeshit. He’s so fast really nothing could ever move in on him.

>>213006781 (OP)
and that is bad because..?

>>213006781 (OP)
Based, Superjew is a sissy faggot just like the subhumans promoting this shit.

>>213007005
Holy mother of fuck. The gunnjeets are all indians = trve

>>213007005
he doesnt solo Ultraman, he had krypto

>>213007005
I'm pretty sure Krypto saves Superjew's jewish and satanic ass during the battle against Ultraman, my dear faggot shill

>>213007526
>da jooz

>>213006781 (OP)
He gets bodied by a clone being given commands honed from three years of combat research, old fashioned kryptonite and nanobots, which he quickly figures his way around. You exaggerate.

>>213006830
Stuff like this happens in the comics too, 80% of the time Superman forgets he has super speed.

>>213007498
Krypto just takes out the cameras so Lex can't relay commands to Ultraman. 1v1 Superman beats Ultraman's ass because the latter is a moron.

Well didn't people always complain that Superman is unstoppable? You people are impossible to please.

>>213007640
>>213006781 (OP)
The way he defeats ultraman with a bus is so FUCKKING lame. Like as if the movie didn’t even know how to end that storyline. I thought at least Superman would want to hear ultraman speak

Didn't see it

>>213006873
Have you considered maybe that /tv/ is more than one person

>>213007668
The whole Ultraman shit is straight from The Boys comic lmao.

>>213009512
>has a clone of superman
>doesn't use him to frame superman

>>213007668
>defeats ultraman with a bus
And Ultraman goes into a black hole, right?

>>213006830
You were bothered by that and not by people flying, being magic strenght, universes ripped apart, laser eyes, anti-proton rivers...

It reminds me of that time people said that a giant fake space squid would be too unrealistic in movie with magic size increasing, energy throwing, telekinetik, self multiplying time travelling, space teleporting, ice castels creating invincible naked blue man.

>>213006830
This version of Superman is nerfed as fuck. Cavillman would dismantle him in seconds.

>>213007628
Ultraman was about to break Superman's arm. Superman was saved by that falling bus which pulled Ultraman into the black hole.

>>213009691
The movie's whole plot hinges on Jimmy Olsen's ability to get a 10/10 to cuck Lex Luthor.

>>213010086
>Cavillman would dismantle him in seconds.
and then cry and make out on the rubbles.
Reeve would kick snyderman's ass and put him into a reactor to create free energy, and then smile because he saved people form him

>>213010349
Cavillman's been in 3 movies and he killed one guy, a genocidal tyrant. Superjew's had one movie so far and he has also killed one guy, his own brainwashed clone.

>>213006781 (OP)
>Superman acts as his own personal world police butting into geopolitical conflicts
>Clark Kent writes up a cover up story defending Superman

>Jimmy Olsen manipulates woman (who is an objective 9/10 but he won't kiss because eww icky????) Into putting her life in danger in pursuit of a story

This movie is trying really hard to confirm that journalists are just scum of the earth.
Except Lois Lane I suppose

>>213010452
cavillman destoryed everythign an made out on top oif corpses, aftr causing the prblem to begin with.
Mindless clones aren't people

>>213010614
The only reason there aren't a mountain of corpses in gunn superman is they somehow evacuated the entire city in 5 minutes

>>213006781 (OP)
>Stop my superpowered alien hero

>>213006925
That is the movie dispshit

>>213011069
the point is giving a fuck about it
actively trying to prevent it
not causing it
and not making out over them

i watched a cam of it with a friend tonight. decent quality for a cam but i literally said the same thing, superman gets beat up 90% of the movie. it sucked. 4/10 maybe

meanwhile i watched the old superman and chris reeves does especially great as being an awkward dude as clark. theres none of that in this movie. even lois has zero charm in her journalistic fashion

>>213006781 (OP)
IM A PUNK ROCKER

>>213011463
There doesnt need to be a lot of clark for it to be superman, that is his alter ego not himself like spiderman

>>213011463
>superman gets beat up 90% of the movie
So you haven't seen it

>>213010614
>cavillman destoryed everythign an made out on top oif corpses
No, that was Zod and the World Engine.

>Mindless clones aren't people
Absolutely not something Superman would ever say.

>>213011230
This is retarded. Superman went out of his way to destroy the World Engine on the other side of the globe even though it nearly killed him in MoS. Superman did fuck all in the new movie; Mr Terrific is the one who stopped the rift and it was Lois who exposed Lex's crimes.

>>213006781 (OP)

This Superman movie felt like I was watching Raimi’s Spiderman so I thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>213011827
World Engine possessed the world's mass in those beams and it was kryptonite!
Gunn's Superman saves a squirrel.

>>213012135

>>213011176
lmao

>>213011482
>IM A COCK SUCKER
We know.

>>213011800
>No, that was Superman failing, bringinging fights to populated area, not caring one bit about leveling buildings and then making out in the ruins
Sop with the copium

>Absolutely not something Superman would ever say.
You don't read comics. Next shit you'll say is that mindless robots can be killed

>>213011827
>>213012272
100% cope. Snyderman destroyed metropolis, while superman saved people
fuckign deal with it.
It's on the screen

>>213012778
>look at the protagonist of a flopped universe laughing!!!!!

>>213013882
>blatantly lying

Pathetic, gunnjeet. Just pathetic.

>>213006781 (OP)
Did you miss the beginning? Superman was going undefeated for 3 years. The movie is about the one time he begins to have to struggle

>>213014069
>begins to have to struggle

SAAARS

>>213006781 (OP)
>Snyderjeets think Superman losing fights is pathetic
>but start throwing their faeces at the wall in delight when Murderman literally dies from losing a fight so badly

>>213010568
Jimmy gay

>>213007668
Tards don't deserve human rights.

>>213006781 (OP)
There's genuinely zero scenes where superman shows off any impressive strength or ability. Every major fight scene he either gets help or gets his ass kicked. The main villain is thwarted by a ragtag group of reporters, not Superman. When Superman faces his greatest foe and has his most dogged fight scene - the clone of himself - cold water is immediately thrown on it when Mr. Terrific (residential infallible black character) tells him to get to work. Great movie guys. Bad. Ass.

>>213014095
killing superman in the 2nd movie is one of the most retarded things that snyder has ever done. it was fucking underwhelming

>>213014095
> no I will not hand the kryptonite spear to the comparably powerful solder trained to use weaponry

>>213014095
Holy fuck, jeet. Even ChatGPT comes up with more natural posts than that.

>>213014169
The reporters closed the rift that was going to destroy the planet?

>>213006781 (OP)
The S stands for Saarman.

>>213010055
Suspension of disbelief doesn't mean you accept absolutely anything and everything that's put on screen regardless of how it defies the movie's own internal logic.

>>213012778
>>I'M A COCK SUCKER
>posts superman played by literal gay actor
pottery

>>213014234
>most desired man on the planet
>has a kid
>gay

Holy cope, Batman!

>>213006830
Lex gives the command before Superman even makes the move iirc

>>213014247
>most desired man on the planet
for everything except movie roles apparently

>>213013909
again, cope
you probably haven't even seen the movie

>>213014169
This isn't even criticism.

>>213006830
The commands are like 'plays' in football though. He's apparently studied him so much that he can predict how he is going to move for the next few seconds. Some of the plays are short, like when he's just spamming the punch command. It's kind of bullshit but it worked for the movie. Like "oh yeah, he's moving his shoulder like this, meaning he's gonna feint left, move right, fly up, so your fist needs to be right here if you want to punch him".

>>213014225
Nonsequitur.
They are the same shit, faggot. From the same story and setting.
it's like saying a jurassic park movie can have Trex but a triceratops breaks your suspension of disbelief

you are just defending it as it is beacuse that's the movie they made and no other reason.

>>213014169
>noooo i want to watch an invincible man fight battles and win all of them

just watch DBZ

>>213014729
goku is beaten all the times and one time even died

>>213014668
>Superman can move faster than the speed of sound
>Lex shouting commands can make Ultraman perform attacks faster than Superman can dodge
If you don't see the obvious logical flaw, I don't know what to say other than you're brown.

>>213006873
Man of Steel superman was the best version of superman
>invincible, per canon
>focuses on what happens if two gods fight
>political and social ramifications of superman's actions

>>213006781 (OP)
Luckily mr awesome and lois lane were there to save him!

>>213014768
Yet he get bodied nonstop lmao

>>213014767
It's not a logical flaw. It's capeshit being incosistent with powers the moment you stop a second thinking about it.
Why doesn't Flash automatically wins all tyhe times in the first attosecond?
The battle works

>>213006781 (OP)

>>213014768
>>invincible, per canon
lmao
>>focuses on what happens if two gods fight
lmao x10
>>political and social ramifications of superman's actions
lmao x100, where? where in the actual movie?
you can't jsut read they synopsis and thent be content with that


also Man of Shit will never be Superman.

>>213014768
But was he a punk rocker?

>>213014989
He was an earth rocker

So let me get this straight. The weak ass superman went undefeated for 3 years but invincible man of steel died after a year? Also he lost to some dude in a bat costume?

>>213014923
by kryptonians.

>>213015074
Like the new one?

>>213006781 (OP)
>OH NO A MOVIE WHERE THE PROTAGONIST IS IN A CONFLICT AND STRUGGLES AND FACES HARDSHIP

>>213014182
Wow yeah you're so right, it would've been way more heroic to abdicate his responsibility to kill the monstrous creature that came from his planet and hand it off to a WOMAN. No wonder you cuck redditors like Superman (2025) so much.

>>213016880
is this real or b8?

>>213016880
>No! You don't understand! It has to be superman.... so he can die!
>in the second movie!

>>213017055
>Noooooooo not my heckin cinematic universerino!!!!
>He should've let the woman take care of business!
MCU brain-rot. The trilogy works perfectly. Birth-Death-Resurrection.

>>213017055
maybe Pa Kent's ghost appeared to him right before and told him he had to die

>>213017239
do synderbros unironically hate women too, even if they’re wonder? born of clay and immortal and literally the best warrior alive? or is this just somewhat refined b8? I think it’s b8. the synderverse is dead, bury it, and this is you collecting the scraps of the deceased for diminishing (You)s by saying ai tier bullshit

>>213017239
>The trilogy works perfectly
Except for being bad

>>213006781 (OP)
>OP and half his shills forget that Superman is fighting himself for the entire movie
>He easily defeats every non-metahuman

>>213017332
You're a dumb fuck. It has nothing to do with her being a woman. It's the fact that it was SUPERMAN'S responsibility. Handing it off to Wonder Woman would be a bitch move and the fact that you don't understand that tells me you're low T faggot soiboy.
>the synderverse is dead, bury it
Don't care, got my trilogy to enjoy for the rest of time. Cope and seethe.

>>213006925
if you werent such a massive faggot, you'd know that superman doesnt know how to fight in terms of skill, he is just strong, he never learnt. even batman can outsmart him in a fist fight

>>213017447
>you're low T faggot soiboy
Intelligent discourse is hard for you, huh?
>Don't care, got my trilogy to enjoy for the rest of time. Cope and seethe.
Bitch you have been coping and seething relentlessly since they killed the SHIT franchise you are deepthroating.
All you are doing right fucking now is coping and seething because gunn maybe a superhero movie instead of sneeder and that it starred corenshit instead of cavill.
You are malding relentlessly like a pussy little girl.
You care so fucking much its shameful and embarrassing, and everybody fucking sees it.

>>213017447
>hand it off to a WOMAN
>He should've let the woman take care of business!

you obviously chose the word woman explicitly to render yourself as a prototypical chan pussy hater in defence of some capeshit film. which was and is a trite and superficial yet sadly effective way to get engagement and (You)s. it’s just very… surface level, you know? you’ll evade this and avoid it of course while you move on to the next stale bantz. but just like, why? is my (You), right here and right now, really that important to you? you have my attention because I love capeshit. but this dialogue is just boring. I truly do miss when you synderbros would upload jpgs upon jpgs from frames of bvs comparing it to some schizo bible quote or whatever. seething about women feels like interacting with chatgpt prompted to behave like a /tv/ contrarian. just, ugh

>>213017572
>Bitch you have been coping and seething relentlessly since they killed the SHIT franchise you are deepthroating
Says who? I'm perfectly content with the movies I got and accepted a while ago that there was pretty much no chance to bring the "snyderverse" back. You're doing that thing that liberals do where you create a caricature of your opposition and immediately apply that to anyone who disagrees with you. It's really gay and dumb.
>You are malding relentlessly like a pussy little girl.
>You care so fucking much its shameful and embarrassing, and everybody fucking sees it.
You seem a bit upset. I thought kindness was the new punk rock?

>>213017586
Her being a woman just adds to the absurdity of the idea that SuperMAN would completely hand off the responsibility to kill this Kryptonian creature to her. How are you not understanding this? It has nothing to do with hating women. Doomsday was born from Zod's body who Superman killed. How would it look if Superman just handed her the spear and said, "Yeah you got this". Pussy shit.
>just, ugh
Yeah, you're a fag.

The biggest shitstain on the Snyderverse is that Superman cares so little about humanity, he does the complete opposite that Jor-El tells Clark to do in Superman II.
i.e. don't fucking kill yourself because you love Lois. You'll be destroying your legacy and proving that you value one human above all others.
But no, Lois is Clark's world because the other parts are confusing and scary and sometimes bad things happen.
So it's better to save some poontang and croak then, oh I don't know, maybe not fucking die?
Why not let Batman save all humanity? So he can redeem himself?
And Superman can choose to act by accepting help from others. Not bear the weight of the world on his own, and realize that all humanity can help him.
No, no, he has to kill himself for some dumbass religious motif that ruins the character.

>>213017742
> How would it look if Superman just handed her the spear and said, "Yeah you got this".

…It would look like the three superheroes are the Dawn of Justice (League) and the Trinity mister Zack Synder was so proud of framing. And if I continue taking you seriously, Clark handing a weapon to Diana and saying “You got this” unironically sounds like legitimate superman. pure kino. this is what i mean, even if i take you seriously, this is clearly b8. pussy shit? superman IS a bit of a pussy. if he weren’t just 1% pussy, at least, he’d be homelander, brightburn, irredeemable, omniman, injustice superman, crime syndicate ultraman, bizarro, etc. your b8 is effective but it is not fun

>>213006781 (OP)
Pretty much. I saw it yesterday. Gunn doesn't know what he's doing.

>>213014768
Snyder's Zoloft Superman was trash. Caville deserves better

>>213017686
> I’m not malding I just opened this thread for Superman 2025
Buddy if this thread was about the DCEU and discussion of 2025 came up for comparison I could buy you aren’t seething. But it’s not, it’s about 2025 thread.
>>213017742
It isn’t absurd at all lmao. The fact Superman killed Zod in the past in no way ascribes him with any more moral responsibility than Wonder Woman to take down the creature. Your argument is incoherent seeing as she is helping him out anyway and Superman has no qualms about it. It would look perfectly reasonable for Superman to tell Wonder Woman, “look, this weapon will surely kill the creature. However, the weapon is slowly killing me and reducing my powers. Because I am a selfless hero whose concern is the safety of the planet, I have enough sense to know when someone else is more capable for a particular task than I am. You, Amazon princess, are not weak to kryptonite, and have spent thousands of years training in the ways of armed combat. You have admirably already damaged the creature by slicing off his hand and have shaken off attacks from it. I will take the lasso, you use the spear.”

>>213011827
Who is that lady?

>>213017869
>Clark handing a weapon to Diana and saying “You got this” unironically sounds like legitimate superman. pure kino.
Pathetic reddit onions boy. You're completely missing the part that it was Superman's responsibility. The creature came from Zod and was created using technology from his planet. It was him problem to handle, and luckily he had Batman and WW to help.
>superman IS a bit of a pussy.
Not my Superman.

>>213006925
>One fight he needs to keep baby safe while fighting power armored goons.
>Another fight he's literally dancing around trying to save even the squirrels and minimize damage trying to capture rather than kill monster.

Did you even see the movie?

>>213018328
Your superman is a wuss that got beat up by a woman then died after a year of being superman lmao

>>213006873
>Superman is a terrible character

ding ding ding!!

I get the impression this movie will be another Superman Returns.
Another movie where its sole reputation rests on 'oh right that happened'.

>>213018328
your superman is currently stuck in a perpetual time loop on his dc earth while darkseid murders his lois over and over and over again, before darkseid corrupts your superman’s soul with the antilife, with kal el becoming the warlord of earth and murdering all life on the planet, before the rest of humanity slowly devolves into parademons. your superman is king of the dead and always will be. never to be saved by Bruce and Barry on the cosmic treadmill, and to never raise his bat child as the cuck your superman truly is

this is fine, by me, personally. I am simply reminding (You) and reiterating your superman is tragically doomed and destined for perpetual evil into eternity

>>213014768
Based

>>213011482
This shit gotta be the most botted meme I've ever seen

>>213014091
That was perfectly understandable English, Ranjeet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUXAaR2oLH4

>>213006781 (OP)
This and F4 flopping is going to make waiting for Avatar 3 so much sweeter.

>>213014201
Why are there so many posts like this by larping browns who can't understand perfectly normal English?

>>213018594
repost the original review you fucking pussy

>>213017967
I didn't even bring up Superman 25 originally, I was just countering these stupid narratives that get parroted by you reddit tards about the Snyder films. Nobody is seething here except you buddy.
>The fact Superman killed Zod in the past in no way ascribes him with any more moral responsibility than Wonder Woman to take down the creature.
It absolutely does. The same way if some monster came from Themiscyra and was trying to destroy the world, it would primarily be Wonder Woman's responsibility to handle it.
>Your argument is incoherent seeing as she is helping him out anyway and Superman has no qualms about it. It
Yeah there's nothing wrong with him getting some help.
>It would look perfectly reasonable for Superman to tell Wonder Woman, “look, this weapon will surely kill the creature. However, the weapon is slowly killing me and reducing my powers. Because I am a selfless hero whose concern is the safety of the planet, I have enough sense to know when someone else is more capable for a particular task than I am. You, Amazon princess, are not weak to kryptonite, and have spent thousands of years training in the ways of armed combat. You have admirably already damaged the creature by slicing off his hand and have shaken off attacks from it. I will take the lasso, you use the spear.”
That would make Superman look like a gigantic pussy to anyone with normal T levels. I understand why this isn't clocking for you though.

>>213018437
Your Superman whines like a teenage girl about a dog, gets beat up by Luthor remote controlling his clone, and gets called a bitch by his female cousin lmao

>>213018511
sounds kinda based ngl

>>213018796
And he won, saved the day with no casualty.
Imagine getting beat up by a girl with worse strength. Absolutely embarrassing.

>>213018754
>it would make superman look like a pussy if he gave a weapon to a literal warrior goddess whom trained for millenia upon millenia to wield all weapons with divine superiority and her dad is also the literal god of war whom in dc fiction literally invented the first weapons and gave them to man

pussy superman. woman woman woman. not my superman. his responsibility not hers. yadda yadda yadda. blah blah blah. ugh. Honestly my favourite thing about superman 2025 is how its arrival beckons your eventual death and irrelevance. even now, you capitulate, and refrain from the daily threads of biblical jpgs. in their place they have (You). with this weak bantz. honestly no more provocative or instigators, and no less sanitized, than chatgpt.

>>213018952
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>213018832
evil superman is fun. if you would like an evil superman, here are some excellent sources

>The Boys (four whole seasons and a whole comic book)
>Invincible (three whole seasons and a whole comic book)
>Irredeemable (a whole comic series about what-if-superman-evil)
>Injustice (a video game and a whole comic series and an animated movie)
>Brightburn (a whole ass movie)
>Crime Syndicate of America (a whole comic arc and animated movie and episodes of television and some video games)
>Synder’s Superman (destined to become warlord of earth and punches Batman through the heart)

must the movie Superman be evil too? the synderbros say yes. I say no. guess who won?

>>213019088
Yeah you won bro. Enjoy your cock eyed Jewish Superboy lmao.

>>213019302
superman was created by two jews so I don’t know how to care about that

>>213019088
S25 has an evil superman in it anon

>>213019302
Enjoy you humiliation ritual.

>>213014260
Yes, that's the problem.

>>213018754
> I didn't even bring up Superman 25 originally
You’re in a Superman 2025 thread
> I was just countering these stupid narratives that get parroted by you reddit tards about the Snyder films. Nobody is seething here except you buddy.
Feeling the need to “counter a narrative” is indicative of seething.
> It absolutely does. The same way if some monster came from Themiscyra and was trying to destroy the world, it would primarily be Wonder Woman's responsibility to handle it.
It wouldn’t. There is no reason to ascribe responsibility to any particular hero over another. What principle are you deriving this obligation from? That they’re from the same place? If Joker is going to nuke Gotham, it’s somehow Batman’s responsibility even if Superman could take him down more quickly and safely? Does Batman, or some other earthling, need to strike the killing blow against Enchantress too cause they’re both from earth?
> Yeah there's nothing wrong with him getting some help.
But not too much help right? Wonder Woman contributed the optimal amount of help? But her killing it is a bridge too far? Do you think Superman would be upset if Wonder Woman killed before he rejoined the fight?
> That would make Superman look like a gigantic pussy to anyone with normal T levels. I understand why this isn't clocking for you though.
I see high IQ problem solving and leadership as masculine qualities. Getting himself killed made him look like a retarded bitch lmao.

>>213006781 (OP)
>>Superman gets his ass beat for 2 hours: the movie
and there's nothing there for me, and a universe like the MCU, so no thanks

>>213006856
KINO
This would have saved the movie

>>213011176
kek

>>213019927
>You’re in a Superman 2025 thread
Yet you fags can't stop bringing up Snyder.
>Feeling the need to “counter a narrative” is indicative of seething.
Nah it's just fun to dunk on Gunntards.
>There is no reason to ascribe responsibility to any particular hero over another
Of course there is.
>What principle are you deriving this obligation from? That they’re from the same place?
Because the creature came from Zod's body, who Superman previously killed. He was the living embodiment of Superman's sins and sacrificing his life to save humanity was his way of atoning for those sins.
>If Joker is going to nuke Gotham, it’s somehow Batman’s responsibility even if Superman could take him down more quickly and safely?
It would primarily be Batman's responsibility, yes. Though not to the same degree since Batman is not an alien from another planet.
>Wonder Woman contributed the optimal amount of help?
I'd say so. She managed to subdue him with her lasso to give Superman enough time to drive the spear into it.
>Do you think Superman would be upset if Wonder Woman killed before he rejoined the fight?
Who's to say she even could have? But no I don't think he would've been upset, but with the way everything worked it, it would've been extra retarded for Superman to retrieve the spear and then go out of his way to hand it off to Wonder Woman when he can just handle it himself.
>I see high IQ problem solving and leadership as masculine qualities. Getting himself killed made him look like a retarded bitch lmao.
I think sacrificing your life for the greater good is the pinnacle of masculine heroism. I wouldn't expect a redditor based boy to understand that though.

>>213014263
holy based

>>213020720
>the definition of masculinity is killing all life on earth and becoming warlord of the planet in the name of abject evil

I see why you /tv/ contrarians enjoy the murderman so much

>>213014263
>>213020908

He has 8 upcoming projects, retards.

>>213011525
That used to be the canon interpretation, Gunn is going for the Clark is the real persona and Superman the mask. With Batman it has been inverted as well that now Bruce is the mask and Batman the real personality.

>>213020720
> Yet you fags can't stop bringing up Snyder.
First person itt to bring up Snyder was someone complaining about this movie >>213010086 Snyjeets have a massive victim complex lmao
> Nah it's just fun to dunk on Gunntards.
Rent free.
> Of course there is.
You haven’t come close to proving this. Starting the sentence with “of course” doesn’t make it true. Again, you haven’t given me an adequate principle you derived this duty from.
> Because the creature came from Zod's body, who Superman previously killed. He was the living embodiment of Superman's sins and sacrificing his life to save humanity was his way of atoning for those sins.
What? What sins did Superman commit? Killing Zod wasn’t a sin. If killing Zod was a sin, then killing Doomsday is also a sin.
> It would primarily be Batman's responsibility, yes. Though not to the same degree since Batman is not an alien from another planet.
Why would it be Batman’s reliability? Are Flash or Cyborg allowed to help? Why’d you dodge the Enchantress question. Would that also be Batman’s responsibility because they’re both from Earth? This notion is so retarded lmao
> Who's to say she even could have?
There’s no reason to think she couldn’t have if armed with the proper equipment.
> but with the way everything worked it, it would've been extra retarded for Superman to retrieve the spear and then go out of his way to hand it off to Wonder Woman when he can just handle it himself.
Superman, being more powerful, could have taken control of the lasso and let the person we already know has the strength to pierce Doomsday’s body deliver the blow.
> I think sacrificing your life for the greater good is the pinnacle of masculine heroism.
Shifting the goal posts. We weren’t discussing whether sacrificing yourself is heroic, because it is, we were discussing whether having Wonder Woman handle the spear would be an abdication of Superman’s responsibility.

>>213014211
No, that was Mr. terrific.

>>213011230
But he doesn't have to prevent it because it's conveniently prevented for him

>>213018937
>saved the day with no casualty.
Mr terrific stopped the rift. The people already evacuated.
Superman saves 1 (one!!!!!!) Woman in a car in the climax. That's literally it.

>>213018937
>And he won, saved the day with no casualty.
Wrong. He killed Ultraman, while Terrific saved Metropolis and GL and Hawkgirl saved Ukraine/Palestine.

>>213012283

Raimi’s Spiderman also gets punched a lot.

>>213023145
superman illicits a specific response in the unintelligent. which is preferring him to murder human beings and become god alien king of earth. this is why the evil superman has been so popular in the last 15 years. most people are unintelligent thus most people gravitate toward an Old Testament superman. spider man, despite being similar to superman, as all superheroes are, does not illicit the same evil and dominating wish fulfillment as superman. an evil Spider-Man likes to whine a lot and wear black and do funny dances while finger pointing. thus he can be beat up without offending the uber mensch evil wish fulfilment like superman does