>make shitty movie
>only dumb Americans see it
>blame Americans when movie flops overseas
What is this tactic called?

>>213009127 (OP)
It's called
>We've spent 225 millions to produce bad movie and 200 millions more on advertisment and only end up with 550millions of box office, making it a certified flop, so we can only damage control and make it look like a success.

>>213009186
But we'll also say we only spent 200m on it despite all the estimates prior to release were closer to 400m and the movie had the most bloated advertising seen since The Force Awakens.

>>213009127 (OP)
Doing well in UK and France and is only 11 million behind Jurassic World which came out a week earlier. Doing well in Australia too. Only major market it’s not doing well is China. But no capeshit is now. Captain America didn’t do well and F4 isn’t tracking well there either

its a blockbuster for sure, people just dont care about movies in general anymore

>>213009233
> estimates

From where? Your hair brown ass?

>>213009307
>Doing well in UK and France
lol

>>213009127 (OP)
WB just had ridiculous expectations like always

>>213009127 (OP)
It's called the "Better Man" tactic

>>213009419
Just say you’re brown and come from a shithole country that is India

>>213009514
Rocks in glass house, Gunnjeet.

>anti-american sentiment
I think this has more to do with people in other countries waking up more and more to the evil bullshit that is US foreign politics.
Not that it wasn't abundantly clear over 70 years ago but people learn slow.
The US is losing its global dominance slowly and is being extremely salty about it, thinking they can make America great again, which it never was and will be.
So why the fuck are you surprised people outside of the US aren't interested in watching some patriotic US bullshit?

>>213009625
Well other American movies are doing alright overseas so it's not just that. If you make a good movie, people will watch. It's just that Hollywood takes its success for granted. They don't have the monopoly of entertainment anymore. Digital technologies have allowed so many other venues of interest. Hollywood can't keep up, recycling the same boring shit every year.

>>213009186
They were mainly going for the movie to break even, because they could've undervalued the advertising with cross platform merchandising.

>>213009661
Yeah this is true as well. But still, who wants to watch patriotic American shit when their country gets hit by retarded tariffs?
And what would we import from the US? Most food stuff that is decent gets produced locally anyway and other than some clothing shit which is easily replacable by other brands I don't really see any value in importing overpriced and/or low quality US made goods.
Say what you will about Made in China for example, if you put in decent money and do good QC their stuff can be very high quality.

>>213009661
He’s talking specifically about China. That’s the only market it’s bombing at but all capeshit is since Trump’s tariffs. F4 not tracking well in China and they always consume Marvel slop. Deadpool made 40 million in China last year and Venom made like 30 million in China last year too

>>213009736
Made in China is unironically superior to Made in America. The car industry has proven over and over again that the cars manufactured in China have superior build quality to the same exact model being manufactured in America. This isn't the early 00's anymore. China has improved its shit. It's of course still not on par with Japan or SK but the build quality for the price is exceptional.

This is ultimately what America fears, that someone else does their shit, better and for significantly cheaper. So they'll do these mob tactics of bullying other nations with all their means to keep stay relevant and live lifestyles of excess.

>>213009794
>This is ultimately what America fears, that someone else does their shit, better and for significantly cheaper.
The ironic thing is the US actually intentionally started that by producing outside of the US because it was cheaper and then manipulating foreign currencies and inflating the dollar to make it even cheaper.
I remember being brainwashed in school how globalism is the greatest thing ever and everyone benefits and thinking to myself how this shit will backfire at some point even for the "winning" countries.
Disadvantaged countries couldn't really fight back unter imperialism but with globalism they can if they work hard and endure.

>>213009661
>If you make a good movie
No such thing in modern era

>>213009127 (OP)
Only Americans and Indians watch American slop.

>>213009879
Globalism is just fancy word. It’s all about maximizing profits at all cost even if it fucks over Americans. This why I don’t take the Democratic party seriously when they against tarries and for illegals. Democrats were against out sourcing American jobs and illegals taking American jobs. Clinton deported more illegals than any modern president followed by Obama.

>>213009127 (OP)
Where were you when these movies took over more than a decade ago?
This flick is better than most shit that was praised a made big money in the last decade, but you start complaining only NOW.
All marvelshit, avatarshit, snydershit, all reboots and prequels and sequels nobody asked for... nope. Now, With this movie.

I wonder why? And I'm not saying that this movie doesn't deserve it, but I'm smelling shit with thise sudden campaign

>>213009879
Yes the irony is that America loved globalism when it made them richer on the backs of poorer countries. But now that globalism is no longer advantageous to them, you see all those millions of rednecks and other boomers cry about how unfairly America is treated by the current economic system - a system that America created for its own needs.

Truth to be told, America has never been exceptional in industry or even arts. They just coasted off the fact that they had amassed such huge amount of influence and wealth post WW2. Nazi Germany during its failing years with all its industries bombed to hell still manufactured tanks that humiliated the American ones - despite the latter having a preserved industry and population that made Germany look like ants.

>>213009987
Lots of Indian energy with this post.

>>213009958
The democrat/republican stuff is gaslighting anyway. For me as a foreigner I don't see any difference in deeds, only in words. Obama was just well liked because he was actually educated and well spoken but he still was an evil asshole like the rest.
>>213010000
I wholeheartedly agree with you.

>>213009127 (OP)
maybe people around the world are staying away from this Superman because of what Israel is doing in Gaza, you guys ever think of that?

>>213009987
> but you start complaining only NOW.

Are you serious?

>>213009721
It was just an exercise to get a superman toy in every kids hands, and for a future.

No wonder international movies like Bond have failed with over priced advertising. The brand wasn't large enough for the scale.

>>213010097
They will need a scape goat with Israel under sanction pressure. Someone will get a war crime tag, like Benjamin Netanyahu.

>>213010009
Lot of anger for this emotional reaction
I wonder why

>>213009794
>on par with Japan
With modern Japan? It's vastly superior. Look at Toyota scamming the safety and emissions tests, giving up and just using BYD platform kek

The less said about zombies like Nissan, Mitsubishi and Mazda the better.

>>213009186
This. The next two movies being Supergirl and Clayface mean that Gunn's DCU is basically DOA.

>>213009514
Why do Gunnpedos insist on shitting on the only country that actually likes this shit?

Im done with ragebaiting threads here, most of the time people arguing here havent even seen the movie

>>213010325

EVs are for queers.

>>213010350
>most of the time people arguing here havent even seen the movie
It's particularly obvious with this movie because what they are noisy about it's just a hyperbolic reaction to out of context shit they saw in the trailer. Sometimes not even that

>>213010350
See you in the next one, shill.

>>213009738
>they always consume Marvel slop
Captain Nigmerica, Eternals, Marvels, Thunderbolts etc. all flopped over there. They just don't care anymore. Not just about Marvel but capeshit and Hollywood in general. First Aquaman sold well over there they got hyped thinking the sequel will sell too so they had special Chinese promos and it still bombed lol, since a lot has changed in the meantime.

Barbie and Oppenheimer also flopped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ixkfrPdduU

It's over.

>>213010391
The future is now, old man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9lA8HcS6Nw

>>213010325
>>213010391
EVs change the rules completely because you no longer need 30 years of experience making combustion engines to make good EVs. You can have companies like Tesla, BYD and even Xiaomi who are just good at technology and they humiliate the traditional brands. Japan especially is hurt by EVs because their energy infrastructure is garbage and they hate being reliant on the Chinese for batteries. Hybrids are a scam by the way. Either get a real ICE or a real EV. Maybe a plug in hybrid is ok if your daily commute is short, but the hybrids that Toyota brags about are just not worth it.

>>213010350
lol why would I want to see this slop? I'll pirate it maybe later.

>>213009127 (OP)
It's called the Trump Derangement Tactic
Basically its the new iteration of Thanks Obama

>>213009127 (OP)
Think of how much money Superman could have made if Americans had elected the half-Indian, half-Jamaican Mamala Harris as President? It's as if MAGA wants America to fail.

>>213010108
>>213010154
Btw most if not all countries have laws and policies that favor their own media, film, music over foreign made media.

>>213010331
Clayface needs to be a low-budget horror to stand any chance of turning a profit. Supergirl could actually be okay if the supporting characters and settings are fun. Lobo being an intergalactic bounty hunter pirate is in Gunn's wheelhouse with Guardians so would benefit from that setting but I'm pretty sure they'll go with "just one of the girls, drinking and partying" shlock.

>>213012230
The movie would be about the Jahampoori flooding Metropolis and leaving Clark Kent and Lois Lane unemployed and gentrified out of their homes (and that's a good thing!)

>>213009625
LOL
You seething bitch

>>213009127 (OP)
>Muricans discovering that the world hates them

Uouuuu

>>213012374
Their movies just aren't that interesting for a non-Amerifat audience.

>>213013134
>>213012374
>>213009127 (OP)

"Avengers: Endgame, the most-watched American film abroad, sold approximately 351,491,996 tickets overseas.

This represents roughly 4.5% of the world's population outside the US, estimated to be around 7.7 billion."

It's great to see that most of the world cares little about this corporative garbage produced by this country of criminals and pirates.

The World Cup is watched by billions

>>213009127 (OP)
Pushing pro-immigrant and anti-white messages is woke, Gunn. You had one job and squandered it because hurr drumpf.

>>213013193
>"Avengers: Endgame, the most-watched American film abroad, sold approximately 351,491,996 tickets overseas.
How much of that was India though?

>>213009186
>>213010331

I really do hope it kills his cinematographic universe and leads to a new reset. I couldn´t care less about the live action stuff but i want the animated universe back.

>>213010331
They got so cocky thinking this was a guaranteed hit. Just stick to Superman and Batman you WB retards. Don't make the same mistake MCU did with its literal whos only manchildren care about.

>>213009987
>in the last decade
Yes. Maybe we reached oversaturation and even normies are fucking tired of not self ironic capeshit, especially one that promises even more capeshit to come if successful.

>>213009186
DC trying to go full reboot all over again was such a bad idea. people are getting tired of most superhero stuff and this year especially is so crowded with similar movies of course reboot #4 of a new superman isnt getting people that excited

As a non-American I have no plan on seeing any of your shitty superhero flicks at the cinema.

>>213013193
Only Americans and Indians watch amerislop, yeah. American media as a whole is India coded.

>>213009127 (OP)
I love how liberal become the worst xenophobes and racists when their own profit is on the stake.

>>213009127 (OP)
LET THE COPING COMMENCE

>>213009186
why is every post against this movie so ESL?

>>213014110
American mainstream media is currently infantilized, which is why it appeals to Indian males whose life is stuck in their teenage mindset

>>213010482
You’ll spend all day shit posting about it but not 2 hours to watch the movie? Why not discuss something you’ve seen recently that you enjoy?

>>213014007
DC was stupid wasting the capeshit bubble with snydershit. Twice when thei didn't reboot fast after it was clear that nobody was on board with it.
While yes, it's delusional to try making a new universe happening now, it makes sense that they are trying to milk the last capeshit fervor to signal that they still have IPs worth a damn. But yeah, it's too little too late

>be non-American
>think you matter

LMAO

>>213014642
People who live in Rome these days still act like they are emperors and shits.
You will be like that

>>213014572
The movie just sucks

>>213015244
I cant be worse the the flash movie or the last few DC projects. wonderwoman 1984 is one of the worst movies Ive ever seen

>>213013193
>The World Cup is watched by billions
Yeah but most of the world is populated by brown savages, so this is not really surprising

>>213009127 (OP)
>Superwoke

>>213015299
Those movies flopped too so I don't get your point.

>>213009127 (OP)
>James Gunn doesn't get how Superman is considered woke
Ok here's the million dollar question, if his superman was woke, would he consider it a good thing?

>>213013193
>soccer
Gay. Can never compare to the pure cinema that is college football

>>213009127 (OP)
>What is this tactic called?
Victory over marlel, you wouldn't get it

>>213015989
I like humanity