Thread 213012797

How the fuck do you even make a realistic Werewolf?

I don't know, but I like his takes on folklore stuff. I just wish he put more movies out.

>>213012797 (OP)
Oxymoron.

Making movies about fantastical creatures and trying to adhere to realism is the most soulless shit ever

>>213012797 (OP)
So long as they keep it sexy it will work

>>213012797 (OP)
the traditional werewolf was just a guy who turned into a literal wolf, not the bipedal wolf monster of modern movies. maybe by "realistic" he just means historical autism

>>213012968
>realistic Jekyll and Hyde
>Jake Gyllenhaal turns into DeVito

>>213012797 (OP)
really big wolf

>>213012797 (OP)
His Orlok wasn't a "realistic" vampire. If anything eggboy usually plays the supernatural shit straight in his films. Just with a veil of mystery to keep you guessing until the reveal.

>>213012797 (OP)
He's going CGI animate it like the Harry Potter werewolf and have the camera follow along on its rampage in 3rd person, just like the vidya he played in college.
Eggersonian video game cinematography is his trademark. Realism is just a pretense he throws around for kinobro marks to repeat for free marketing

>>213012797 (OP)
Waging tails.

Make it look like a wolf and not a gorilla

>>213012797 (OP)
Play skyrim

>>213012797 (OP)
Hire Rachel Zegler

Nothing beats van helsing (2004) werefwolf imo

>>213013705
He's also sexy as fuxk (not a foid)

>>213013719
>(not a foid)
Post penis

Did this faggot pay for a new shilling cycle for his horrible slop

>>213012968
No it wasn’t, the traditional werewolf was a tormented soul buried on Hallowed ground that scratched at the coffin lid in an attempt to escape.

>>213012797 (OP)
You write a man, and take away reason and accountability.

>>213015252
>>213012968
There's also the witches who rubbed ointment on themselves and wore wolf pelts to transform, probably at least partially inspired by the berserkers.

>>213013705
Unironically. Not necessarily Hugh Jackman’s in this gif but the scene where the werewolf is chasing Kate Beckinsale in the woods. Genuinely terrifying as a werewolf should be.
Speaking of Kate Beckinsale, Underworld also did them well.

does anyone feel like Eggers movies are pain to watch? I like the basic ideas behind his movies and he's competent but the execution is so uninspired. I'm always like, oh a new Eggers movie, OK, let me mentally prepare myself to grind out the 2 1/2 hours so I can say that I watched it.

>>213015641
yes

>>213012797 (OP)
Realism isn't necessary, just a cool design is. I always preferred the more anthropomorphic werewolves (i.e. a guy with lots hair and fangs) as opposed to bipedal canines, which always looked dumb to me.

>>213012797 (OP)
It'll be an overgrown wolf which stands on two from time to time (like a bear).

>>213012797 (OP)
Not even gonna bother watching this if he doesn't have hot werewolves fucking women in this.

>>213015641
He’s got the technical proficiency down but lacks soul. Yeah
The thing is, if he ever puts it all together, he’s Kubrick

The werewolf itself doesn't have to be realistic. It's more about the ethical and existential dilemma of what to do if you transform into a mindless killing machine once a month that's interesting.

>>213012797 (OP)
Hire a furry

Instead of "Werewolf", you call it Werwulf.

>>213015783
>It's more about the ethical and existential dilemma of what to do if you transform into a mindless killing machine once a month that's interesting.
Is the modern werewolf a metaphor for women on their period?

>>213015793
>Vampyr

>>213012968
I thought they were druids or shamans or something. They would wear a belt made out of wolf fur and drink rainwater out of a wolf's footprint. This let them transform into a wolf. The only way you could tell it wasn't a real wolf was the lack of a tail, so the werewolf would stick out its back leg to look like a tail

>>213012968
I'm pretty sure in some regions, werewolves were more hybrid looking things. It varied in different ways depending where you went, like vampires

>>213013029
This is actually a great premise for a movie.

>>213015966
in other parts of the world they had werehyenas, weretigers n shieeeet. all kinds of shieeeeet

>>213015522
Entirely different cultures and the plants/fungi used by each were different as well.

>>213012797 (OP)
Make it jacked and give it a big swinging dick

>>213016165
Yeah it's called Aaron Taylor Johnson

>>213015252
That's some gay early modern shit, the original werewolf is basically any one of the various Indo-European warriors that are said to wear animal peltd to "change form"

>>213016123
There was no fungus involved you fucking faggot (and it most certainly wasn't amantia muscara)

>>213016533
>1216
>early modern

>>213016606
>284 years off

close enough

>>213016688
No, stalker, it is not.
Enjoy prison.

>>213016717
jokes on you, im already shitposting from prison

>>213012797 (OP)
well the original werewolf was an insane serial killer cannibal who had Satan make him a belt which transformed him into a wolf, he was in an incestuous relationship with his own daughter and ate his sons brain, he never told where the belt was hidden so the court ripped him to pieces with horse then reassembled him in a wolf position and burned him

>>213016777
that's not the original.

>>213016796
well that's the movie I'd make

>lily rose depp
dropped

Jacked werewolves give me too much of a furry vibe. Needs to be lanky with more human like features.

Also, can someone explain the concept of a dogman when wolfmen exist? Seems redundant and less threatening.

>>213016606
That's about 100 years early than I was thinking, but yes I do consider the 1300s basically Early Modern

>>213017125
Werewolves are weird shape changers that happen to have wolf like features(that may or may not be muh devil and shieet in later myths)
Dogmen are literally men with heads of dogs (that may or may not be some sort of holy saints and shieet in later myths)

>>213017125
>more human like features.
Garbage

>>213017125
the way most accounts I've read seem to go: Dogmen are fauna like Bigfoot; werewolves are shapeshifters who transform in the full moon

>>213012797 (OP)
You don’t, just make it a supernatural curse passed down from time immemorial, and make it cool and/or scary looking. American Werewolf in London and Van Helsing are peak werewolf.

>>213017125
>more human like features
Its been tried and it was SHIT

>>213017125
>human like features
have you seen Howl?

>>213017645
He probably means body not head

Hire an Italian.

>>213012797 (OP)
Give it the knot.
Don't ask me how I know.

i want to see eggers make a movie set in modern day LA but have it be an allegory for some myth

>>213017125
Dogmen were invented by a Michigan disk jockey. It's just a way to Americanize the concept of a werewolf.

>>213017542
Fuck you for reminding me of that "patriarchy is the real monster" shit.

how about something like this

>>213013648
Fuck...You, INCEL!!!

>>213017791
as cannon fodder sure but not as the main creature.

Too much like a dog and not a wolf

>>213015641
>OK, let me mentally prepare myself to grind out the 2 1/2 hours so I can say that I watched it.

What the fuck?

>>213012797 (OP)
He has no idea how to make a movie with a budget

>>213012797 (OP)
>realistic
Since when it's his priority? Since when is this supposed to be anyone's priority in general?

>>213012797 (OP)
>Eggers
>Realism
you sure you watched his flicks?

>>213015793
Vervolk

>>213017791
>series of dog nipples
>but also a peenus and ballsack
?

>>213018085
you just know

>>213012797 (OP)
Gévaudan beast

>>213018085
anon....I don't know how to tell you this but....males also have nipples

>>213012797 (OP)
>realistic fantasy

retarded bullshit for millennials

>>213015793
Wolfdude.

>>213017125
>Needs to be lanky with more human like features.

>>213013705
Nice graphics for a PS2 game.

>>213018305
It's literally from the PS2 era....

>>213015741
Every movie he's made looks like it's still shot during COVID when they could only have like 2 actors in the same scene at any point

>>213013029
I'd watch that.

>>213012797 (OP)
Like in the Brotherhood of the Wolf. Don't show it until the end and then followed by a realistic reveal, and that followed by the most over the top fantasy kitschy swordfight

>>213017438
>>213017542
>>213017645
Yeah those all look like shit. Not sure how you'd incorporate them, but maybe a shorter muzzle or something.

>>213018263
That looks pretty good. Maybe add Human eyes.
>>213017791
More fur and pointy ears, but arms and otherwise great.

>>213012968
Thats lame as fuck. We want werewolves like Van Helsing kino. If you can't do that then dont make the movie

>>213013029
Hyde is the story is a short hairy manlet. This would be good casting actually.

>>213017791
Actual wolves dont look this small and lame. They're dog breeds scarier than this useless thing.

Why are werewolves always depicted showing their teeth?
Wolves are chill creatures for the most part, not perpetually enraged.

>>213017927
Did the script leak??

Bad Moon
Big Bad Wolf
WolfCop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkBjpBfyBxA
Werewolf of Snow Hollow

I'm always up for a werewolf movie.

Full Eclipse

>>213019150
I had to scroll all the fucking way down here just to find someone mention Bad Moon. Every werewolf movie copies underworld where they look like Brutes from Halo.

>>213018702
There's a collection of Richard Corben dogman/werewolf comics coming out next month.

Anybody here seen the Brazilian movie Good Manners? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5480782/

An interesting werewolf movie with a unique mythology is The Wolf: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086585/

Wolf Man 2025 was a flop but it had the most realistic werewolf depiction in film.

>>213017791
Except for the bits that's the werewolf from Harry Potter.

>>213012797 (OP)
American werewolf in London did it well.

>invents the oner
>orchestrates oner shots
>invents videogame cinematography
>makes /tv/ seethe with his innovations
>father of the A24 aesthetic
>exposes toxic masculinity
>takes vikings back from white supremacists
>groundbreaking videogame shots like Gears of War
>appreciated by both plebs, midwits, and high IQ simultaneously
>routinely analyzed on r/truefilm and r/criterion
>invited multiple times to the Criterion closet to show off his taste
>legendary top 10 list of cinema.
>beloved across the entire world except for two autists on /tv/
>invents bone chilling slow burn horror
>creates video game cinematography
>composes oner shots
>conceives Eggersian color theory
>innovates historical aesthetic realism
>designs the Egger-oner
>pioneers folkloric surrealism
>revolutionizes grimdark lighting

>>213020482
Egg-sama.....i kneel desu..

>>213012797 (OP)
>How the fuck do you even make a realistic Werewolf?
not my problem

>>213018137
You have a point here. I had a male dog, not fixed, growing up and I never noticed he had mini nipples but apparently he did according to google.

>>213020604
just look at your chest bro

>>213018904
The transformation is pretty much always depicted as being extremely painful, I would be pissed off too if the first thing I consciously experienced as a wolf was intense pain and no idea where the fuck I am.

>>213020094
WTF he fucking kills himself over it?

>>213012797 (OP)
no clue, dunno what they look like

>>213017542
human like not retard like...

>>213017791
Why is the leg so veiny

>>213012797 (OP)
werewolves aren't real

Since lycanthropy is just a folklore interpretation of Rabies, full moon criminal activity and hysterical women on their periods, i'm guessing those will be the actual theme of an Eggers werewolf movie.
All of that is up his alley in terms of thematics and how you would frame a movie visually.

>>213018305
You had an amazing PS2.

>>213015541
>JUST THROW THE FUCKING BALL

>>213012797 (OP)
I just want a goddamn Werewolf: the Apocalypse game.

>>213021859
All that I know of this game is that apparently the werewolf in it is super furbaity in design and has a notable ass.

>>213012797 (OP)
I hope I give you the shits!

>>213021606
Bullshit. Werewolves and other monsters existed, they were hunted to extinction, or nearly. Prove to me they never existed!!

>>213012797 (OP)
Maybe something based off a Spynx or Lamassu. Instead of wolf man a man with wolf like features, a man wolf a wolf with some man like features. From a distance it looks like an animal but it has a human-ish face. Maybe it has something like opposable thumbs but it's still this big wolf like creature.

I maintain that the best filmic werewolf to date is Prisoner of Azkaban. The design is genuinely creepy and meancing (not in picrel so much because that's the moment he's just transformed and the kids think he can still be reasoned with), shit had me scared for months after seeing it as a kid. I like the classic "big powerful wolfman" depiction as anyone, but track record shows it doesn't translate well to the big screen, despite working well in art and vidya. Alternatively, Eggers could go the "literal wolf" route (something I have a suspicion he'll end up doing) and make him look like e.g. Sirius in picrel, that's a cool direction too

>>213012797 (OP)
Lots of petite women getting knotted.

>>213012797 (OP)
In the werewolf formula, put 2 parts wolf to 1/2 parts humanoid and you get a proper wulf. Too many Hollywood movies make the werewolf a Bigfoot with sharp canines.

Dog soldiers has the best werewolves imo. Apparently they hired dancers so they have this weird uncanny way of moving.

>>213023151
That explains why they kept doing pirouets and stopping to do the charleston

>>213022281
First one!
Dog Soldiers had fantastic werewolves that were lanky, yet muscled, and terrifying.

>>213012797 (OP)
I love this guy's movies and his "keeping fantasy realistic" approach... But GOD I hope the werewolf is not gonna be just a hairy fella with that disease that makes you hairy so the village ostracized him and he started killing as a revenge... I want actual werewolves okay ? And no gay shit like twilight, some humanoid monstrosity
He made a good job of bringing the vampire back to being a monster, not a sex symbol teenage girls play the lute over, I hope the werewolf gets the same treatment

When MJ turned into a werewolf and said "Go Away" that used to scare the piss out of me. I still think it's a really good effect. The actual werewolf effect is OK but that sort of hybrid in between moment is really scary .Maybe it's just cause it scared me as a kid id know

>>213012797 (OP)
>the howling
>not realistic
kill yourself

>>213023151
I liked how the werewolves could be temporarily injured, but not killed by normal weapons unless it was some ridiculous amount of damage, and were still intelligent, not mindless.
Spoon's fight is a thing of legend.
The reveal that they had been playing with the soldiers for fun all along and merely exhausting the soldier's weapons and ammo was terrifying.

Just make the wolf form slash people up in the night and then have the guy wake up in a torn flannel with a stomach ache and blood everywhere. Make him get hunted while he's also trying to deal with it and losing his mind.

>>213023539
Yup. Great atmospheric movie that still holds up and taps into some of my first memories of being scared. I don't really understand the Megan characters motivations still though.

Didn't Leigh Whannell just make a realistic werewolf movie?

>>213023577
I think she wanted a boyfriend. She was testing them out to see which was the best choice. She didn't want to be there, but had no choice anymore after becoming one.
Remember during Sarge's story about the guy with the tattoo on his ass? The cow flopping into their camp?
The werewolves killed the assault team, but left the bait team and pushed them towards the house.
"Here's a bunch of guys. Hurry up and pick your favorite, we'll eat the rest."
Cooper just wasn't taking her bait. She chose him, and it seemed right at the end before she was shot, that she had decided to take Cooper by force.
The werewolves would have gotten rid of the soldiers hunting them, and added an SF candidate to their ranks.
That's what it looked like to me.

he should rather do it artsy. theres countless realistic werewolf movies. even american werewolf is somewhat real

>>213012968
The traditional "werewolf" was just when a guy went crazy and ate babies

>>213012968
I'm glad they changed that. Wolves aren't that scary on their own. An average man could beat one wolf

>>213024050
The real werewolf was the protagonists deep seated ambiguity towards his distant father

>>213021926
Don't forget the sick trailer music, what's that, tribal metal or something? Baller as fuck

>>213012797 (OP)
Like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL4dLNQ86m4

For me, it's Silver Bullet

>>213024162
lotta people think wolves are killing machines and 200 pounds apiece

>>213012797 (OP)
Speaking of werewolves, did you know there was a very solid werewolf tv series from the late 80s? 29 episodes. Watch it to quench your werewolf thirst.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIISvpk6M33SO3p_VRDxbRsSqi-ILwD6m&si=zgZ1b6cwbresTdBc

>>213024237
Here it is, band's called Alien Weaponry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v_n76LN2yI

>>213024183
well, not like that. i hate those. visually he can do pretty cool stuff if he wants, there doesnt need to be much ambiguity or pretentious subtext. even vvitch is rather straightforward and everything that can be red into it is already present in witch lore (dangers of the woods, dangers of strangers etc.) baba yaga for example, as you see in john wick, is called baba zima in the balkans. its essentially a warning for the winter, a cautionary tale.

so i'd rather have him do a cautionary tale sort of movie with neat visuals.

>>213012861
SCP has influenced modern pop culture more than you realize

>>213013029
In the original tale Jekyll was in control the entire time. Hyde was just a persona to be a violent maniac with. His issue came with the potion becoming permanent and thus he wouldn't be able to escape punishment for his crimes.

I mean... There is always Teen Wolf... I've seen worse.
https://youtu.be/hWRJQvuhs9w?si=k6cDhO7HR8VxtM_i

>>213012797 (OP)
>beginning to into wolf
>pants won't rip, strangling balls
Does the change still happen?

>>213012832
He needs reigning in. Limit his budget, he will give us kino.
Left to his own devices / told how special he is by all the sycophants surrounding him, we’ll get nothing but an endless stream of “Nosferatu.”

I know what I’m expecting.