>>213018233 (OP) he's not wrong people dick ride him and his dad when they're not really that intelligent they're just surrounded by people stupider than they are
>>213018233 (OP) I still don't understand how they figured out who the traitor was and who was orchestrating the movies against the Corleone family. I guess thats the dinner scene? Idk
>>213018769 At the summit with all the dons, Don Corleone figured out Tattaglia was being puppeted by Barzini. That's why he told Michael whoever came to him to broker a deal with Barzini would be the traitor.
Michael was never meant to be a chess master, he was too cold and brutal to be a successful boss.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:46:31 PM No.213021086
>>213018233 (OP) His master plan was figuring out who the traitor was and then orchestrating hits against all the other dons at the same time. It wasn't just a matter of "go kill these guys."
>>213018233 (OP) This movie just fucks around for half the time. Do we need all that stuff that happened in Italy? The story didn't even move forward until Michael was back, so they could've just cut all of that shit.
>>213018233 (OP) >That kid's name was Moe Greene, and the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a great man, a man of vision and guts. And there isn't even a plaque or a signpost or a statue of him in that town! Someone put a bullet through his eye. No one knows who gave the order. When I heard it, I wasn't angry; I knew Moe, I knew he was headstrong, talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead, I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen; I didn't ask who gave the order, because IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSINESS! >I'm gonna take a nap. When I wake, if my jew gold is on the table I'll know I have a partner. If it isn't, I'll know I don't.
>>213018580 he killed all the heads of the five families anyway so the detective work was pointless
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:16:37 PM No.213023088
>>213018233 (OP) The entire point of the scheme was to make the other families think the Corleones were weak so they wouldn't be on their guard. They go into more detail in the book (with Michael secretly amassing men beyond those Tessio and Clemenza had because he suspected one of them was a traitor and could betray the whole operation) but they nevertheless still spell it out in the movie, but zoomers only watch cut clips anyway.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:34:10 PM No.213023451
>>213021294 Are the zoomers in the room with us right now?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:35:13 PM No.213023475
>>213021086 >his master plan was… >killing some guys
>>213022960 >That kid's name was Moe Greene, and the guy he TALKED to was Barzini. This was a great man, a man who TALKED to Barzini. And there isn't even a plaque or a signpost or a statue of him TALKING to Barzini! Someone TALKED to Barzini. No one knows who TALKED to Barzini. When I heard it, I wasn't angry; I knew Moe, I knew he TALKED to Barzini, TALKing to Barzini, TALKing stupid things to Barzini. So when he TALKED to Barzini, I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the Barzini we've TALKED to; I didn't ask who TALKED to Barzini, because IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TALKING TO BARZINI!