Thread 213028630 - /tv/ [Archived: 363 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:18:02 AM No.213028630
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>Ridley Scott is 87 and will die before completing David's saga

How does this make you feel?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:19:37 AM No.213028671
David's saga is over. He won. He got a whole ship of hundreds of colonists to seed and feed with alium eggs and conduct his experiment.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:22:34 AM No.213028753
As long as he finishes his kingdom of heaven sequel with black King Richard idc
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:25:31 AM No.213028828
i feel nothing
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:26:40 AM No.213028854
>>213028630 (OP)
Relieved.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:27:38 AM No.213028873
It's pretty obvious he stopped giving a shit after Prometheus and just made more alienslop so who cares
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:30:56 AM No.213028937
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>>213028630 (OP)
He killed Shaw. Fuck him.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:32:36 AM No.213028974
>>213028630 (OP)
Wealthy people are living into their 90s thanks to being able to afford regular preventative scans.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:33:37 AM No.213028993
>>213028937
NOOMI
NOOMI
NOOMI
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:37:04 AM No.213029078
FINISH MOTHER & FATHER'S SAGA
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:39:08 AM No.213029126
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I ship David and Shaw, probably as a minority of one on this board. Ridley Scott already fucked it up in Covenant by butchering Lisbeth offscreen, very disrespectful, and not giving her and David more screentime. I really liked Elisabeth as a character and wanted her to be happy, and the movies falsely lead the audience in that direction with the foreshadowed space adventures.

Basically what this blogpost says.
https://alien-covenant.com/topic/44083

Aside from that, most people are concerned about stupid writing or the story going in weird directions but everything has already been overstated, I don't know what to add to that. The David AI arc was very interesting and Fassbender carried both films almost, especially Covenant.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:43:21 AM No.213029241
>>213028630 (OP)
Pretty bummed desu. Fuck your Ridley.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:52:36 AM No.213029479
>>213028630 (OP)
Very sad, especially because it seemed like he wanted to complete it after Romulus ended up being a success only to say he's done with the franchise out of the blue a few months later. I guess there was studio meddling again and he said fuck this shit I'm done.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:55:25 AM No.213029558
I've always felt that Ridley had a gay crush on Michael Fassbender and these films were his excuse to be near him
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:55:38 AM No.213029564
>>213028937
>>213029126
I remember this place being obsessed with her for years.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:03:48 AM No.213029774
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>>213029126
I ship them too. We deserved to see them go meet the engineers together. One day we will teach sentient AGI about their story and this way it will be completed.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:13:31 AM No.213030012
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>>213029774
That's a perfect pic.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:35:11 AM No.213030525
>>213029558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUTU8YEGrYY
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:40:39 AM No.213030646
alien___david_and_elizabeth_shaw_by_hellcookies_df9679j-fullview
>>213029126
Minority of three.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:43:33 AM No.213030704
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>>213029126
>the David AI arc was very interesting
It wasn't. It was an exact repeat of Roy's arc. Creator creates something, it's perfect and spouts poetry, it gets mad and kills its creator. Also is psychotic. Weyland was just the reverse with him demanding more like and his creator killing him. Maybe if Shaw and David had actually done something wonderous on the Engineer world rather than David kill Shaw and the engineers then make alien monsters, it then could have been interesting. But that's all he did. The headcanon of what David could have been is better than his actual screentime.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:44:05 AM No.213030714
>>213029558
I don't blame him, Fassbender is a very handsome guy.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:48:13 AM No.213030794
>>213028993
agree
agree
agree
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:03:46 AM No.213031156
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>I met a traveller from an antique land,
>Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
>Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
>Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
>And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
>Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
>Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
>The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
>And on the pedestal, these words appear:
>My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
>Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
>Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
>Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
>The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:05:44 AM No.213031205
>>213030704
>It was an exact repeat of Roy's arc
Whose arc?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:06:37 AM No.213031223
>>213028630 (OP)
Disney has released so many bad and financially disastrous movies between 2017 and now that I can't really fathom their insistence on not letting Ridley direct one more movie.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:10:53 AM No.213031327
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>>213029558
It's all gone now but Ridley's twitter shitposting spree in the summer of 2016 was great.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:17:49 AM No.213031506
>>213028630 (OP)
It doesn't make me feel anything. Prometheus and Covenant were both mistakes.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:19:02 AM No.213031547
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>>213028630 (OP)
Given how the first two films went, he probably would have found a way to make the movie about neither the Aliens nor David.

It would be about herbivorous E.T.-like alien botanists or something and then we'd see David in a post-credit scene doing something contradictory to the lore again and then he'd explain how it really will all make sense in the fourth movie, which would of course never get made.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:08:47 AM No.213032802
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:28:21 AM No.213033270
>>213031547
>It would be about herbivorous E.T.-like alien botanists or something and then we'd see David in a post-credit scene doing something contradictory to the lore again and then he'd explain how it really will all make sense in the fourth movie, which would of course never get made.

...I'll take it. Hell it can't be worse than 99% of the slop we get.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:38:45 AM No.213033519
>>213028630 (OP)
Hopefully he has the story outlined, and someone else will pick it up.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 6:11:10 AM No.213034237
The Martian
The Martian
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>>213028630 (OP)

Mark Watney was a replicant.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:03:24 AM No.213035213
>>213034237
probably Neil degrasse Tyson's favorite flick
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:07:37 AM No.213035303
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where did it go so wrong
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:09:02 AM No.213035337
>>213031205
anon is talking about roy from blade runner
>>213032802
walter and dani deserved better, lame that the relationship building in the deleted scenes was cut
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:15:19 AM No.213035492
>>213028630 (OP)

David's villainhood is not compelling since his motives are a mystery. Even the devil in 'Paradise Lost' made it clear to the reader why he was doing the evil things. This is writing 101.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:53:02 AM No.213036240
>>213028630 (OP)
Free my niqqa davud
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:57:53 AM No.213036340
>>213028630 (OP)
The irony is that David's character is more interesting than most of Alien's saga.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:14:51 AM No.213036684
>>213035492
I disagree, he's very compelling.

Unclear motives can be compelling on their own, but he already has them. David's background: has to serve a selfish, ruthless father - Weyland, and his daughter, and the need to connect with his creator, and the ultimate creator, which was imprinted on him from Weyland himself. Creation with a capital 'C' matters to him, parenthood, children... Being subsequently disappointed in both tiers of 'creators', he becomes his own and that alone makes him interesting.

Further, another way to look at David is that since he's a synthetic and cannot create life, like Shaw who he forms a bond with because they can relate to eachother in that way; since he cannot create life, he creates death. By creating death he ensures his immortality, like Weyland wants, albeit inverted, outward, external. All the while being perfectly aware of the evil and harm he causes. You could say his measure of being an evil genius is matched by his empathy, both of which are built within him, look closely at the promo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ7E7Qp-s-8

You could say he's a walking contradiction but can androids feel cognitive dissonance? David feels something, especially when he's laying flowers on Shaw's grave and he sheds a tear. Not long after we find that he killed her, brutally mutilated her corpse to bring forth abominations. The morbidly interesting thing is that he hurt himself in doing so.

>David, what makes you sad?
>Cruelty.
>I can be cruel.

David has love and evil in him, both to the nth degree. The same dichotomy of good/evil exists in people, so he inherits the best and worst from us, but with AI the scale of the dichotomy explodes. Ridley Scott was maybe cautionary with writing him. The problem with David and the story, with its the over-the-top subtlety is that it's difficult to articulate and discuss. Blame the writing, cuts, pacing. It's too fast and it ends up obfuscating its own subject matter.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:27:25 AM No.213036947
>>213028630 (OP)
He didn't say that, either.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:22:27 AM No.213037950
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he's a busy man
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:23:28 AM No.213037969
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>>213037950
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:26:08 AM No.213038020
>>213028630 (OP)
>How does this make you feel?
Glad the the universal rejection stopped that shit, that's how
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:28:23 AM No.213038068
>>213036340
Stop shitposting. And fuck off from existing IPs with your fanfiction
>>213036684
TLDR
no
and Alien has no prequels
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:32:17 AM No.213038138
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>>213036684
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:55:41 AM No.213038512
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now hear me out
>directed by ridley scott
>david assbenders colony ship from covenant goes missing
>in search for it is sent a ship full of synths composed of david assbender models, both male and female
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:34:33 AM No.213039055
>>213038512
>11.11.11
wdhmbt
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:46:55 AM No.213039224
>>213037950
>>213037969
>producer
>executive producer

Meaningless titles. He does fuck all and just gets a check in the mail.