>everyone says the Hellraiser movies are bad but the first one is decent
>watch the first one
>its dogshit

So you’re saying it gets even worse after this?

>>213041918 (OP)
I didn't know they said this but I watched the first and then the second last week and can confirm the second is worse than the first. I was going to watch the third but the second bored me enough to watch something else instead.
Maybe I shouldn't keep watching them, I gave the first one three stars for an interesting premise and I thought it was fine, but the second one I gave two stars, the CGI is somewhat better and they go into the edgelord dimension a lot more in it, but I found it pretty boring and sort of nonsensical.

>>213042073
The third movie it's just an average slasher and the rest are direct to video.

>>213042073
>>213042126
I heard from a Gen X retard that the 3rd is good because it goes into the origin story of PinHead. Only one way to find out…but I couldn’t even make it through the 2nd movie.

>>213042240
Nah, the origin story is shit, I actually think that the character works better without it.

Pinhead is a good antagonist but the films are dull and unimaginative. Clive Barker is a degenerate poofta too, and not in a good way.

>>213042126
I might watch the third one then
>>213042240
I don't actually care about the origin story of pinhead
They very briefly touch on the origin of all of the cenobites in the second one, that's what you missed, that and ummmm uhhhmmmm a big pyramid eye thing that's named after one of the old gods, I forget from which civilization

>>213041918 (OP)
the first one is peak cinema, you have shit taste. the second one is very good also. the third is fucking terrible nonsense and actually hilarious. fourth one is N/A dont watch. fifth one is a recycled non-hellraiser movie that does pretty good for a lower budget thing, i have a special love for craig sheffer.

>>213042415
I can't tell if this post means they really do get worse after the first two, or means they become excellent since you think the first two were great and don't like the others

>>213042443
hellraiser 1 is like clive barker's personal life project based on his weird bdsm prostitute history. it's a technical masterpiece and has a great cast who all deliver great performances. can't be beat.

2 is a very serviceable cash grab sequel with a big budget and very little of it went to story. the designs are cool.

3 is an insane no budget straight to video thing with the worst designs and the worst plot and it's terrible and hilarious. even this manages some good concept stuff early on but as they say the wheels come off very quickly.

>>213042608
It's just okay, he's not the first person to make a horror movie with meat hooks or be obsessed about a shitty cuck/cheating fantasy.

>>213041918 (OP)
Yea I watched the first two this past week.
They’re movies that would probably be badass as shit if you were a kid in the 80s, but don’t really hold up all that great now.
I didn’t think they were dogshit, but they certainly weren’t anything amazing.

>>213042608
3 was released theatrically, i intended to say the budget was straight-to-video level.
>>213042646
it's not that at all, you should probably rewatch it with the chud glasses off.

>>213042073
>>213042656
why did you both watch the first two last week?
there wasn't a thread on them or anything
>>213042667
don't out yourself as a troon, it's uncouth

>>213042677
in hellraiser the troon is the horror

>>213042677
Couldn’t tell you, just been one of the movies/franchises I’ve had on the back burner for a while

>>213041918 (OP)
First Hellraiser is legitimately great. The second one gets really stupid despite some cool visuals and expanding on the cenobites. I never watched any of the others until giving Troonraiser in 2022 a chance and it just vastly oversimplifies the whole box concept and turned the cenobites into slasher villains with much shittier looking costumes than the original movie.

frank was a cum brain

>>213043789
This scene trounces modern Hollywood harder every year.

>>213043720
i still recommend 3 and 5 but they aren't great

>>213043893
CD loves us all

I liked II a lot but the doctor really carried the whole movie

>>213044994
it is pretty hard to fuck up a suspense-horror film in an insane asylum. doc was perfect though.

>>213041918 (OP)
>>its dogshit
Too bad you can't appreciate great things. Your loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnXqIWfAaBs

>>213044460
Believe it or not, there was an action figure made of this guy and I own it.

whats funny is there are so many comics, and the book and shit

there's so much content for hellraiser movies, and yet the sequels just devolved into shit like --

>dude, what if we made a silent hill movie, but we gave pinhead a three second cameo at the end!

>>213041918 (OP)
No.
The first two are good.
The third is okay.
The fourth is eh.
Event Horizon is fine.

>>213044994
>>213045058
>And to think... I hesitated

>>213045058
Yea and I enjoyed his goofy ass at the end

>>213045144
I remember those.

>>213045355
I've got Channard cenobite figure as well. He's got the long penis tentacle thing attached to his head, it's wired so you can bend it. At the base of it there's a pair of quasi-testicles.

>>213041918 (OP)
by 80s horror standards it's normal

>>213045347


Thought this was Marty for a second, back to haunt the jannies for not giving him a sticky.

>>213042677
I’m assuming because of the announcement of a new hellraiser video game.

>>213042677
>>213049447
I didn't know about the new video game and just watched them for same reason as
>>213042978

>>213041918 (OP)
FRAJER!!!

>>213045286
it's interesting that there's so much "content" but I feel the entire franchise basically lives and dies by those initial images of the bdsm freaks arriving and sending whoever to the pain dimension, with everything else just tagging along

I don't know if there's something to hellraiser beyond those almost entirely visual hooks (lol), maybe the hell dimension could be interesting to explore but it seems like it'd just be more torture stuff but in a weirder setting. the motivation for wanting to see the hellraiser guys is like an euphemism for seeking out more novel experiences and I dont understand if the audience is supposed to feel surprised that it never works out in the end. the guys who specifically tells you that they'll torture you gets there and puts hooks in you and there's this moment of epiphany where the guy goes "oh, this is bad actually" and I don't understand where the dramatic tension lies. it's not even a faustian bargain where you gain some mysterious power

I can't help but to think that the premise is not enough. in final destination there can always be a new kind of freak accident. there can always be a new torture device challenge in the saw series. in hellraiser someone has to spin the wheel of pain and then they're torture killed. there's no escalation and weirdly enough very little mystery