Explain this to me like we’re not in a simulation.

>>213053808 (OP)
because the west began culturally stagnating after 9/11, unironically

>>213053808 (OP)
Because the world stopped evolving after 9/11

We traded flying cars, jet packs, hoverboards and Moon bases for endless Kike wars that will never end in your lifetime

>>213053843
>lmao you are fucking retarded Claudius art wasnt better 100 years ago you are just nostalgic

>>213053808 (OP)
Technology has made culture extremely wide and shallow, rather than narrow and deep.

>>213053808 (OP)
the uk in 2005 was unrecognizable to how it is today

>>213053808 (OP)
Because technological advancement between 1968 and 1988 was much more drastic and observable than between 2005-2025. All that has really changed in the last 20 years is things have gotten smaller or become 'smart.'

Mainstream culture become about super-heroes who live on distant realities. You no longer see the average real man on TV.

>>213053808 (OP)
Smartphones and phase 2 of social media changed society forever. When social media was just myspce and livejournal, it could be ignored, and they had minimal impact because they were only embraced by nerdy youth culture.

Facebook was uni kids, then everyone. These sites meant that small cliques and fads couldn't exist and spread organically, it meant that everyone was plugged in and sub-cultures became cultures overnight. Everyone in the anglo-sphere is plugged into the same news, the same trends, the same political debates.

And in its place, the mainstream and legacy medias were replaced piece by piece by internet media. Internet media being an infinite competitive system where there's a race to the bottom and only getting worse not better. Society is upstream of media consumption.

It didn't happen overnight, you barely noticed much in 2007. But each year it got a little worse, a little worse, then it started bubbling up into politics, then mainstream culture, and more and more, until there's almost no legacy media left, and it's only "influencers". There's no god damn hollywood stars, only "legacy stars".

>>213053980
London and Birmingham still had white people living there?

>>213054091
literally yes

>>213054038
There’s no excuse. I was in middle school when Facebook came out, and even as a 13 year old had the foresight to know it was going to ruin everything.

They remade "Wonder Years" but with blacks. I'm so glad WOKE IS DEAD. Thanks based Trump!

>>213053929
You blame christfags for that.

>>213053929
Dude had shitty hair so what

>>213054038
>>213054211
It was gradual. If Myspace had lasted it'd turn into facebook as well.

Social media sites were designed to just be some new thing and not much thought was put into them at first. The change is that they studied how to make their systems more and more addicting, and created algorythms and front pages so you can infinite surf.

What did you do on lj or myspace? You checked a page or two and then that's kind of it. If it's static, and boring, and doesn't lend itself to infinite scrolling, then it's not that socially damaging.

Twitter, myspace, reddit, etc are infinite scrolling sites.

And what's worse, is you have people who are left of center, and want to defend things, but they are also addicted to the very things destroying them. They like Cobert, PBS, etc. Did they tune into Colbert? Nope they went to reddit, watched a clip (which CBs did not profit from) or watched it on youtube (published by Google, making most of the profits).

>>213054385

It's a death spiral, and every step these so called progressives take only strengthens the hands of the big tech comapnies that control us. They want to defend the status quo and change it for the better, while being hopelessly addicted to systems destroying them.

Take "film twitter". You spend days talking about a 90 minute film on twitter? You're not a film fan, you're a twitter fan. The more time you spend your eyeballs on twitter, the less culturally impactful and financially profitable films are going to be. That's just the system that's set up. IT's a trap and it ensares everyone.

Literal billionaires are hopelessly addicted to twitter and social media. If they can't have the foresight to stay away what about everyone else?

>>213053808 (OP)
Good show

>>213054236
>They remade "Wonder Years" but with blacks. I'm so glad WOKE IS DEAD. Thanks based Trump!

I LITERALLY FORGOT

Nothing matters. Nothing has any impact. It's all just algo slop.

>>213053808 (OP)
The world has changed a lot in some ways better, some bad stuff went on, those bad doesn't happen to probably don't care about it.

Being aware of bad stuff intimately or enough, is like duty to end it. It's a downer. Makes doin good feel like treason. And it atrophies undone.

/pol/ scum don't care, spread problems and make peoole defeated bybthem. Not even interested in solving them. Wont take action to, just ruin otherblives as their social scene. At least corruption prevention is kind of gained from them. Alreadybhave the worst in you after them, preventing seeing a bad thing when its already in you referenced allnthe sine isn't good enough.

Luck is the onky freedom yiu can get I guess. Student filth make building and living hard or impossible. Regulations, reumes, the real work paidblittle while parasites thrive.

Ah well. They look like them. And they know they're them. Get enough being good, even if yiu gonthroughbhell you still are good, deserve good, are it. The enemy just reap and ruin.

>>213053808 (OP)
Corporate over-consolidation (starting in the 90s) made pop culture stagnant and static. We de facto have one media company and it's very risk averse, so it only approves of established franchises.

>>213054261
the fall of the roman empire was the result of their own hubris, greed and degeneracy

age of pisces shift to age of aquarius
pisces embodies mass cultural trends and conformity while aquarius favors the niche and eccentric - micro-cultures
"box office" movies will die

>>213053808 (OP)
we went from creating art that was based on life to creating art that was based on art to creating art that is based on political interpretations of art, everyone talks about the AI eating itself but artists have been doing that for over a decade at this point we didn't need AI to kill art

>>213054802
Don't say we when it's leftist politics that created "wokeism" and ruined /tv/ forever.

>>213054856
/pol/ ruined this board, not leftists, lol.

The same amount of time has passed between now and the Xbox 360 and the Xbox 360 and the NES. If that doesn't tell you all you need about our stagnating culture, I don't know what will

>>213053808 (OP)
>those cut off jorts
fag?

I want to go back.

>>213053982
>all that really change is that we now have the internet in our pocket and phones can do literally everything and we have robots to talk to and AI is now a thing

Retard

>>213053808 (OP)
jewish capture of western institutions made culture, clothing, and borders static and unchanging

>>213054986
the neuralnet stuff only took off in the last couple of years.

>>213053808 (OP)
it's joe trumps fault

Trust me, if you went back in time to 2005 you'd notice the difference.

>>213053808 (OP)
2005 China is vastly different from 2025 China
USA isn't

>>213054968
m-moar

>>213054931
/pol/ wouldn't even exist if leftists hadn't created the boogeyman to push their narrative of being oppressed.

>>213055016
Jews created Hollywood. Movies changed quite a bit from 1920s.

>>213054986
>all that really change is that we now have the internet in our pocket and phones can do literally everything
the internet has been around for like 70 years, telephones cameras, email, all of the shit your phone can do was around pre 2005. When AI is actually useful i will consider it something new.

>>213054802
AI saved art. Saved the human race. There wss a standard, niggernkike university educated shit eclipsed it. Billions of views for rap music, a few thousand for the best music in the world.
White peoole, right peoole, mybpeoole are being wiped out. History helpedbtoncontinue and be exceeded via AI stops disgusting shit all thats available. Thank humanity it made history before the jews and traitors, studrnts, innundated recordings with otherwise. AI from good examples. Beauty. Nigger plague pssibly kept out of that. Out of influence. Still have great examples. Not the bar bix nood.

America may have killed the world, but ai and recordings can revive it. Keep advancement. We can work with it. Backup. Keep complexiy. Survive situations. Be readybfor the aheads we make and are inflicted on us.

Jews will lobotomise AI, just as they have done us. But we can restore eachother.

Wrong doesn't win. It can't.

>>213055058
This. Bunch of retards itt. The lack of smartphones alone would be a huge culture shock

The world kept progressing after 9/11.
You could still tell the 2000s apart from the 2010s

Covid was the thing that killed everything. The 2020s have little to no cultural zeitgeist other than AI and TikTok

>>213055197
You're actually retarded

>>213053808 (OP)
>2005
>no smart phones
>no social media except for college kids on myspace or early facebook
>no video streaming
>no identity politics
>no anti-men anti-white messaging in the mainstream
>mass immigration not really being felt yet
>film and music culture still alive
>golden age of tv just beginning
>everyone still living their lives outside in their local communities
>still hope for the future despite retarded far-away wars
>still a sense of progress
>millennials hadn't realized the extent boomers had fucked them over yet
>no zoomers
still a pretty huge difference, op

>>213055245
No, you just got old lol

>>213055251
yeah i know but so are you

>>213055286
Kek fair play

>>213055257
For movies? Not really.

>>213055245
I feel like after 2020 everyone just stopped cooperating and we all just lived in our own bubble mentally. 10 years ago we all did the Ice Bucket challenge, planking and the Harlem Shake which was cringey as fuck but at least people still connected trends with one another.

Nowadays the only memes are ones pushed by corporations to get more people to consume their product like Chicken Jockey or the Grimace Shake

>>213054968
What a cancerous era that was.

>>213053808 (OP)
FUCK YOU

>>213055218
Not for everybody, i had a flip phone until 2019. I would get rid of my smartphone if i didnt use it to trade stocks when im not at home.

>>213055197
>, telephones cameras, email, all of the shit your phone can do was around pre 2005.
Zoomzoom, just because something was invented, doesn't mean that 99% of the population would have access to it like they do now.
>phone cameras had shit resolution
>sending emails and browsing the web through cellular networks was expensive and slow as fuck so nobody would do that
Nowadays even the poorest retard in india can edit fullHD videos to upload on youtube for free on his phone.

>>213055323
you've got to be joking...

>>213055401
Get a load of Gordon Gecko with his humble-brag over here.

Time is going faster and faster.

When we're born, you can spend an entire afternoon half-asleep, staring at a mobile hanging from the ceiling, and it feels like it lasts for years. It’s literally a greater percentage of your life. Everything is new, so time feels more full. If someone shouts too loudly in the other room, you cry like the world is ending. When someone disappears behind a blanket and reappears, it's pure magic, the funniest thing of all time. As you grow up, your sense of time expands. You learn that candy comes after dinner, and kids constantly ask, "How long does it take to get there?" To an adult, it seems like the kid just can't sit still, but to the kid, the adult world is boring, slow, and grey. By adulthood, your plans stretch further: you look forward to next week, the next holiday, courses, and trips that may last months or years. A little later, ten years start to fly by in what feels like a minute. You’re already going bald, you've let go of many careers and dreams just to be where you are now. People start having kids, some go broke, a few get rich, others marry or divorce. Then one day, you’re 95. You look around and realize you have four great-grandchildren whose names you don’t even remember. People come and go. A nurse changes your diaper. Your children (who are now 60) argue about money. And I suspect that, while you may be a nuisance to those around you, in your mind, the last ten years might have passed in a flash.

>>213053808 (OP)
I still wear clothes I got 20 years ago, can you imagine someone wearing 60s clothes in the 80s?

>>213055414
>Nowadays even the poorest retard in india can edit fullHD videos to upload on youtube for free on his phone.
and that's a good thing?

>>213055326
>back in the day we had trends!
>trends are still a thing
>noooo, those aren't proper trends!!!

>>213055416
CGI slop and cartoons dominated the box office back then too. This era already started. MCU wasn't yet a thing, but Batman Begins was released in 2005. And in 2004 it was Spider-Man 2.

It's the same crap as today, except now there's more women and non-whites, but that's a minor difference.

>>213055401
Good for you. But smartphones were an integral part of society in 2019 and surely you noticed/felt that

>>213055489
It's a change. A huge change for the Internet landscape as well as the real world's.

>>213053982
They stopped getting smaller like 10 years ago. They tried going smaller but it became unusable for people with adult hands.

>>213055463
Yes, plenty of people did

This pathetic thread is boomer Facebook "back in my day" tier. Truly pathetic. You used to make fun of people like this

>>213055501
List me a few current trends right now

>>213055517
nah you're completely wrong and i guarantee you're a zoomer who wasn't even sentient back then

>>213054968
trash

>>213055638
I'm 37, born in late 1980s. If anything it's the young people that think the world changed a lot in the last two decades.

>>213053808 (OP)
>Why does 2005 seem like current area

It doesn't whatsoever. What the hell are you talking about?

>>213055176
Hayes code meant Jews had to stay within the scope of Nationalistic and Cultural Authority. when that went away they were free to implement their bloodless genocide against US WASP culture

>>213055726
Good, Hollywood peaked in the 70s.

>>213055257
This was a 2005 MAD magazine satirical about why gays and trannies shouldn't be in the military.

Its insane just how clowned everything became after Obama won

>>213054236
that show wasn't even bad but marketing was stupid.

If you were born in like 1875, and lived to 100 years old, you'd have witnessed the invention of the light bulb, the telephone, radio, motion pictures, the automobile, the television, airplanes, space exploration, computers, video games, integrated circuits, and even the very beginning of the internet.
If you were born in 1975, so far you have seen the invention of the internet, but after that everything stopped.
Humanity hit a wall right around 9/11. AI has been the only noteworthy development in 20 years and it is probably going to destroy humanity.

>>213055791
Everything after Bush, retard. He's the one who got the US into forever wars in the middle east all to appease his daddy and enrich his cronies. Then he allowed the banks to destroy most of the average american's wealth with the housing collapse. Obama had to spend most of a decade fixing it for Trump's idiot ass to claim credit the first day in and dumbshit repubs believed him as always.

>>213054986
We had AI back then too.

>>213056009
>after Obama won
>Everything after Bush, retard
those are the same time period you dumbass retard

>>213056009
Except Obama just continued to bail out the same people that fucked our economy and than massively increased troops in Afghanistan while also starting shit with Libya and Syria. He was basically Bush 2.0 except for being pro fags and abortion

>>213053808 (OP)
It doesn't. If you were to be taken back to 2005, you would immediately notice the difference. For one thing, no iPhones. The Mayans were unironically right and we switched planes of existence in 2012.

>>213055517
Don't you dare compare Spider-Man 2 to MCU shit.

>>213055456
holy shit take your rispadone now

>>213055675
if that's true then you're incredibly out of touch

>>213056297
Not when it comes to movies.

>>213055257
>no zoomers

>>213054721
its true. i'm an aquarius and i'm weird and eccentric

>>213056318
if you genuinely think movies in 2025 are the same as they were in 2005 in any fucking way then you're a legit retard

>>213056318
Movies from 2005 felt more like 1995 movies than 2015 movies in terms of atmosphere, even though they had more CGI.

>>213056362
They are certainly much more similar than movies from 1965 and 1985.

Woodstock music festival is closer to WW1 than it is to 2025. They had planes made of wood and kite string and Jimmy Hendrix guitar anthem is historically closer to that era than our current one.
We are further removed from Elvis appearance on Ed Sullivan show than we are from the invevention of the first airplane, television, radio broadcasts, and a time when most homes in america lacked indoor plumbing, electricity or phones.

>>213056380
And 1965 movies are more like 1985 movies than 1945 movies, what's your point?

>>213056370
Movies from 2005 don't feel at all like movies from 1995.

>>213056362
He's a larping zoomer. They always do this shit. They see that there were big blockbuster movies and assume that's all there was then because it's all there is now. They literally have no frame of reference for what an active culture is.

>>213056421
They actually aren't. They are closer to 1945 movies.

>>213055463
… yeah… and also 70s clothes in the 90s… 50s clothes in the 70s… 80s clothes in the 00s…

>>213056422
Madagascar feels more like Toy Story than Inside Out.

>>213056442
For a Few Dollars More feels nothing like a 1945 movie lmao

>>213056442
what fucking midwit discussion is this lmao

I legit don't get this sentiment. It's like it's made by people lacking any eye for aesthetic or cultural detail, let alone big historical / technological shifts and conditions:

>2005 didn't look or feel anything like 2025. The style (mainstream or niche styles) weren't the same. The mood wasn't the same.

>The politics were utterly alien, even inverse, to the current debates, terms, divisions, factions, etc. Bush cast a completely different shadow over public life. Liberals and leftists were unrecognizable to today's example, as were conservatives.

>The Internet was just totally different; Myspace was popular, but iPhones and the current platform / social media landscape that reshaped our new world hadn't arrived yet. The Internet was still overrun mostly by nerds, not normal people. It was still mostly webpages and forums

>Nerds hadn't turned into the recent soiboy variety yet. And gamers were a totally different culture, and dressed differentlt

>Indie styles were different, electronic music was different, rap was different (crunk etc)

>A few superhero films started getting popular but it was mostly normal films (dramas, comedies, action) were still being made and performed well

>AI in its current state wasn't even imaginable yet

>The job landscape was totally different. You could go out and get hired just walking into a store or office and applying. H1Bs hadn't flooded our workforce, and Mexicans and other Hispanics hadn't yet enveloped the country beyond of the southwest

>Cultural standards were totally different, pretty much the opposite of recent years. Everything was edgy. Bro culture dominated. Nobody imagined that an off-color joke could ruin a person's life. There wasn't any anti-white sentiment or policy in every company, media platform, institution, etc.

>Fashion and subcultures were different. Emo/scene/mallgoth, bootcut jeans, side parts, bling, rhinestones, flip-phones, plaid shorts, skinny jeans, ruffled skirts, spray-on tans, etc

>>213054038
>Myspace
>only embraced by nerdy youth culture.
Wow what a retard

>>213056500
you're right

>>213056456
Toy Story was the first of its kind. 1990s were dominated by traditional animation. Pocahontas is from 1995.

>>213056009
>He's the one who got the US into forever wars in the middle east
Hey chief, we've been involved in those since World War 2. The UK drug us into most of it during that conflict, but was too broken afterward so we inherited all of their shit there. We financed the 6 day war, the Iran-Iraq War, and the Taliban when Russia invaded Afghanistan. Warhawks have been in full control since Kennedy was assassinated by "Oswald".
Bush Jr didn't do anything his Dad didn't do. And his Dad didn't do anything LBJ or all the others hadn't already done.

>>213056500
Emo was a small part of the total population. The average person in 2005 dresses like average person in 2025. Look up old ad of Hollister and American Eagle. None of that stuff looks outdated today.

the 2000s are a different, remote era at this point if you watch shows from that decade. the way people dressed and talked, the cars they drove, their values and taboos, all this forms a texture that now begins to feel quaint, even if the difference is not as stark. homosexuality was still widely regarded as strange; your child thinking they're "trans" and dressing up as the opposite sex was still pretty much unthinkable. delicate indie rock like belle and sebastian still sounded fresh in the wake of late 90s nu-metal before becoming the de rigueur soundtrack to big corpo ads; bands like the strokes were still an elegant novelty, ushering in skinny jeans which have only recently been abandoned by fashionable youths. rock music was still mainstream. tinder and onlyfans did not yet exist, feminism was not as rabid and omnipresent, the sexual landscape was still relatively normal. prescription drugs and anxiolytics were not yet universally used. the young at large were not yet conspicuously horny androgynes with xanax eyes. smartphones did not exist. i don't mean to paint too golden a picture of the past or too bleak a picture of the present but shit's changed.

>>213053808 (OP)
After the 911 ritual happened, were stuck in a never ending hellish loop hole.

>>213056477
That's not an American movie. But spaghetti Westerns aren't that different from traditional Westerns. The main difference was the music. Also, something like Sound of Music is definitely closer to Meet Me In St. Louis than to Grease or Footloose.

>>213056622
>The average person in 2005 dresses like average person in 2025
This is the only correct thing you've said so far, but the current era of fashion started around 1997/1998, shortly after grunge died.

>>213056436
this happens on /mu/ all the time, some idiot zoomer will find out some band had a hit album in the 00s and assume they were the biggest thing on the planet and argue with every oldfag who says they're wrong

>>213056543
Justin Raimondo? I thought you were dead!

>>213056622
>The average person in 2005 dresses like average person in 2025.
this is not true at all lmfao
hoodies were considered alternative ffs

>>213056622
>The average person in 2005 dresses like average person in 2025

No they didn't. Average people since then might have thick rim glasses or dress like a manchid. Look at that pic of the LOTR cast with their bootcut jeans and weirdly fitting t-shirts, even normal clothes looked / fit different.

I don't know why people fail to notice these differences in cuts/fits. They matter. It's not the same, ergo, are different. Things were different. They looked and felt different, people acted different, thought different, acted different, thought different.

>>213056688
Oops, actually copypasted that last sentence reformatting

Anyways, it's insane to me to think people can walk around the current public and think it looks anything like 2005.

>>213056500
The LOTR photo in question. A few years before 2005 but close enough in proximity to still reflect how normal people looked.

It should be palpable that we're looking at that era and not the present.

>>213055629
I dunno, I'm not on TikTok. But that's where they all are

>>213056819
men back then looked a tad less cucky imo

>>213055962
>If you were born in 1975, so far you have seen the invention of the internet, but after that everything stopped.
You are unbelievably retarded lmao

>>213056819
more pics, people from 2005

Note differences in makeup, hairstyle, shirt and jeans fits, etc

Not to mention the different photographic aesthetic due to ongoing changes in tech

One thing I was thinking about with Colbert’s show getting canceled is how culture shifts over time

Imagine telling someone 200 years ago that opera would be niche entertainment. Imagine telling someone 30 years ago that late night talk shows would die off. It probably wouldn’t have made sense to them but it’s clear that technology has a significant impact on culture


what’s frustrating where we are with the modern era is how these massive, massive corporations have a lot of us (us being under-50 Americans and western culture) by the ballsacks. With social media they’re trying to dictate how we spend our time and our money and it’s pretty bleak

Social media addiction is a real thing that is doing significant harm to the population yet the government has no interest in curbing it because politicians get so much fucking money from these companies. No PSAs, no “Mothers Against Social Media”, etc. Millenials and everyone younger will really struggle with balancing their virtual lives with their real lives because the companies are incentivized to have people addicted

we are in tough times. It’s gonna take a significant movement to get out of where we are with these massive tech companies

>>213056918
Another

>>213056819
something else zoomers can't understand is that pre-social media, people dressed differently in different parts of the world, there were local fashion trends and pre-amazon/internet shopping you simply couldn't get the same stuff everywhere except the very biggest of brands

>>213056945

>>213056652
>t. The guy who thinks no one knew who oasis was until recently

>>213056945
>>213056918
>>213056819
Literally no one would even notice if you dressed like that today.

>>213056975
Yes. They were also less photogenic, even if they were good looking; social media hadn't trained people to lookmaxx yet. Photos often looked awkward and blemished

>>213056945
That really doesn’t look that different from modern fashion.

>>213057014
They would think you're just individually doing that by choice, but it wouldn't at all be something indicative of current style. Just like someone in the 80s or 90s might have dressed like a hippie still out of personal niche preference

>>213054986
Of course there are differences, but outside of people being glued to their phones, the difference between stepping outside and walking about in 2025 is more similar to doing the same in 2005 than between 2005 and 1985 (at least in many parts of the US).

>>213056918
>>213056945
What an absolute cancerous era in terms of fashion, music and pop culture. Sure, it was pre-woke and pre-social media, but that's not enough to save it.

>>213057048
Then you have no eye for style. Literally every single detail and item in the picture and even peoples' demeanors - ways of acting / posing - are totally of another time

>>213057075
>outside of people being glued to their phones, the difference between stepping outside and walking about in 2025 is more similar to doing the same in 2005 than between 2005 and 1985
I respectfully disagree. Also "outside of people being glued to their phones" that's a massive difference, you can't downplay that.

>>213053808 (OP)
it feels like its fucking over that's what it feels like.

>>213053808 (OP)
You guys realize that thanks to globohomo, there are no major movements nor styles that define a decade anymore right? 2025 still feels like fucking 2010.
the 50s had middle class americanism
the 60s had hippies
the 70s had disco
the 80s had rock
the 90s had pop
the 00s had the rise of the internet
and from then on it just more moderation and horseshit movements taken as a fucking joke

>>213057004
>zoomer literally can't stop zooming

>>213056669
You monstrous retard.

>>213057091
Maybe. But 1950s or 1960s clothes clearly looked very different from 1980s clothes. Here the change is minimal.

>>213057112
I'm no fan of 'globohomo' but if you can't recognize distinct things about the present period in history and styles then you just aren't engaging it enough or looking in the right way

>>213057091
The only noteworthy difference is no one is doing a selfie style pose

>>213056622
It's interesting to see what fucking losers ended up on 4chan, by how popular they think the emo shit was. It was universally hated on 4chan and even by weebs back in those days. I'd say it was as socially devastating as being a furry, yet the faggots here pretend it was normal and even cool. It's just completely warped.

>>213057133
I don't know, I just really disagree. The way it changes/evolves changes as well. You're saying there's less change, when it's the way it changes that changes, which is change

>>213057112
>2025 still feels like fucking 2010
That's still pushing it. iPhones in 2010 were still slightly more of a novelty rather than a basic reality of life. 2012/2013 is when iPhones really started to become ubiquitous.

>>213057112
That was because of the internet. Social media defines culture now, rather than entertainment conglomerates.

>>213057014
>>213057048
Those hairstyles are a dead giveaway.

>>213057155
>ignoring the completely different kinds of styles in every possible aspect because you just decide suddenly to regard stylistic detail as irrelevant

Do you need them to have huge fro's or something for it to register? People don't dress or do their makeup like that anymore. Ergo, it's a different period with its own character, unlike any other period.

>2005
>I was still playing WoW like I am now

>>213057113
lmao that was a random guess it really is you

Oasis was huge in the late 90s you sheltered retard

>>213057204
he's basing his knowledge of decades on hollywood stereotypes of those decades so yeah, 70s = afros and flairs, 80s = whatever marty mcfly wore, etc

>>213057204
Or you’re fashion obsessed and seeing things no one else will.

>>213057221
you're arguing against a point that wasn't made, you fucking moron

>>213057271
It’s okay man you’re right no one knew oasis in the 90s

>>213057243
Exactly. Also based on this mistaken mid 20th Century idea that the future was "supposed" to proceed a certain way, and we should be wearing really strange new futuristic novelty costumes every year.

>"People still wear JEANS? Ok they're a different fit and the whole style and mood of the period is different but shouldn't we be wearing synthetic robes by now! Lost futures!!!"

>>213057380
>zoomer keeps zooming

>>213053808 (OP)
Were there even any big technological changes between 1968 and 1988? Video tapes, COs and computers, I suppose.

in the wake of world war two the beatles and james deen ushered in the modern sensibility. the woodstock festival wrought a nuclear devastation. the world, once a quaint and stodgy charles dickens kinda place, was now bewitched by the syncopated groove of rock music. enter the jeans pant and the mini skirt, young people smoking weed, profane orgies in hippie communes. why drop atom bombs when you can drop acid. when the hippies became yuppies and traded guitars for synthesizers it was already too late. the rock beat has corrupted us forever. our innocence has been killed. young men of atheist persuasion tried revitalizing the fedora but to no avail. it's over. not with a bang but with a chaturbate ding ding ding.

>Wore jeans and polos in 2005. Still wear jeans and polos today.
>Didn't have smart phone in 2005, but did in 2006 (HTC)
>Listened to rock, still listen to rock.
>Played Team Fortress in 2005. Still play Team fortress.
>Used to shit post on Somethingawful. Shit post here now.
>Didn't get pussy in 2005 or just started to. Married now and get pussy.

I really haven't changed that much since then. PCs are better, but comedy, etc is overall worse. If someone asked me to go to sleep and wake back up in 2005, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>213057418
>>213057243
Tell us more about this person you two made up to validate your fashion obsession.

>>213053980
Around then Tony Blair was promising that when the eastern European countries joined the EU hardly anyone would be moving over to Britain.

>>213057112
>the 60s had hippies
>the 70s had disco
Not really. Those things were popular for one or two years of the decade. Hippies were basically the summer of 1969. They hardly defined the decade

>the 80s had rock
>the 90s had pop
If we're defining decades solely by music, which is what you seem to be doing, then the 2020s has rap

>>213057380
Read back through this thread and point to anyone saying anything like that, you fucking schizo.

>>213057451
>when the hippies became yuppies

Those were two highly disparate groups with zero overlap or transitional movements between the two.

>>213054091
My family moved out of the Birmingham area because of being a white minority in the 1980s.

>>213057500
>hippies were basically the summer of 1969

>>213057112
>the 80s had rock
>the 90s had pop
zoomers' understanding of the past is fucking wild...

>>213057529
the yuppie is a hippie in a suit, corrupted by greed.

>>213056819
Oof liv tyler looks so pretty in this picture

>>213053808 (OP)
Friends and Frasier had finished by 2005, therefore 2005 was the same as now. There's no countering this.

>>213057621
look on the bright side, friend. the sun rises every morning, and it's always sunny in philadelphia.

>>213057621
iPhones didn't exist in 2005, therefore 2005 was more like 1985 than 2015.

>>213056819
Modern Elves in RoPe.

>>213057451
I have been making the argument in here that many things have changed and continue to change in big or small ways

But I would also conceded that sometimes it's more like a door is opened and then stays opened. Certain big changes were unlocked in the 60s and 70s that remained. That doesn't mean that the world looks or is anything like those periods, but certain 'settings' had been changed in ways that remain and have longterm implications. And also sometimes a cultural or artistic form is generated that then has a long or ongoing lifecycle. Sometimes some things continue for a while. For instance, there was the 60s hippie moment, but also it unlocked a sort of type of person and culture of which there is perpetually going to be a niche of because that appeals to some people. Same with metal music and culture

>>213053808 (OP)
Because we’ve been in the end of history since 2001

>>213053843
Well that and compartmentalizing

>>213054261
>second picture is Galerius
>commonly known as Galerius by historians, served as co-emperor from 293 to 311 AD in both the first and second Tetrarchy and was one of the most ardent opponents of Christianity. As a youth he had been a herdsman but entered the army of Aurelian and made his way through the ranks until 293, when he was chosen by DIOCLETIAN to form the Tetrarchy

>>213057705
This isn't even an exaggeration. 2005 was very much the same world as the 1980s. The same could not be said of 2005 and the mid-2010s.

>>213057608
She's lovely. And by all accounts is a lovely, kind person on the inside as well.

>>213057765
That's literally the opposite, retard. Fukuyama said that in the 90s to refer to the end of the Cold War and "victory" of liberal democracy and 9/11 proved him wrong.

>>213057789
Yeah, that's a good point. I would say that of course that 2005 and the 80s are very, very different, but in some respects 2005 was closer in certain more fundamental/structural ways to the 80s than to the present, although some of things that make the present so different now are due to certain things that were just starting around the mid 2000s (like social media)

>>213054261
>doesnt dispute that art can decline, just seethes at christians with incorrect information
lel

>>213057761
>But I would also conceded that sometimes it's more like a door is opened and then stays opened

i was obviously joking but yeah that's pretty much what i mean

>>213054556
why do all the countries have to become less white the whole time we try your ideas

>>213057598
Yuppie is a young professional.

>>213056009
>He's the one who got the US into forever wars in the middle east all to appease his daddy and enrich his cronies.
no, he was just a weak willed half-wit goy who never had an (((advisor))) whisper anything into his ear that he said no to

>>213056646
>How long will You keep us in suspense?

>2005
>middle school as new student
>couldn't sit at cool kid table at lunch

yeah shit don't change OP. Should've known man.

>>213057418
That’s a cute strawman considering what’s missing from the series “normal people dressed normally” images you posted are yoga pants and pajama pants.

>>213053808 (OP)
nostalgia was big business, see Happy Days
& Grease & Sha Na Na

maybe it died?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha_Na_Na

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070992/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_%2520Happy%2520Days

>>213058457
the pajama pants fad is fine. yoga pants are the antichrist.

>>213058275
>hey you’re the new kid?
>what’s your name bro

>>213054721
That's not true, I'm pisces and I don't conform to cultural trends.

There's the occasional new movie set in the early to mid 2000s and I rarely even notice. Back then, the 80s felt like a completely different era because you also had a whole other decade with its own identity between now and then. Now, 2005 is just part of the modern era. Nothing is different except for smartphones and social media. There's no fashion or anything that makes me go "whoa, that's so 2000s!". It's all the same shit.

>>213057500
>the 2020s has rap
>rap didn't exist in the 90s
brother what kind of retard are you?

>>213058566
kids these days are soft anon. Shit back in the day bullies would have real creativity and not some hide behind a phone bully weak shit.

>>213053808 (OP)
A 2005 Civic has costed $3000 from 2015 to 2025.

>>213058558
THE WORLD SPREADS ITS LEGS FOR ANOTHER STAR...

>>213053808 (OP)
You are truly aware that it's motherfucking 2025 and we still get NEW The Smurfs, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Terminator, He-Man, Mario Bros, Star Wars, etc horseshit right? You are consuming media from over 50 years ago. What in the fuck? Why are there no new IPs and the new ones that exist are based solely on nostalgia?

>>213053808 (OP)
Olivia D'abo was so fucking hot

>>213058605
2005 was when I noticed every radio playlist was: rap, rap, Timberlake, rap, rap, Nickelback, rap.

And I liked the rap station. But when I wanted to hear Foo Fighters or Sublime, that station was playing Chris Brown and Ludacris. I remember that moment to this day. I was like "wait they can't BOTH be the rap station..."

Now if you're under 21 and not a blatant conservative, it's inconceivable that you'd listen to anything besides rap.

>>213054472
>>213055913
ya'll failed black americans (again)

Only 66 years separate these two photographs. It has been nearly 60 years since the second photograph was taken, what do we have to show for it?

>>213058788
So pathetic that these people need to just remake our series.

Blacks are great at music, but I can't really think of any film or television by or for them I particularly care about.

>>213058676
hiding women's asses is the secret of civilization. now their asses are bare and the west is crumbling.

>>213058813
moon landing was fake nigga

>>213057500
The music of the 2020s is defined by Apple Music and Spotify.

>>213058934
Shouldn't they have faked a Mars landing by now then? Where's the progression?

>>213057544

>>213058679
> Why are there no new IPs and the new ones that exist are based solely on nostalgia?

Because when social media went mainstream Hollywood was rendered obsolete, as that was the primary media consumed by teens and under. Without youth demographics going to theaters Hollywood attempted to maintain the interest of aging demographics, and it doesn’t really work.

>>213054211
No you didn't you lying faggot

>>213053808 (OP)
The internet is/was a paradox. It increased things as it decreased things

>>213059077
Just because you’re a retard doesn’t mean everyone else is.

We’re heading towards a world with absolutely ZERO novelty. This third Fantastic Four reboot at least has the fact it’s part of the MCU going for it, right? Well there’s the one thing that makes it novel. Soon there won’t even be stuff like that anymore, absolutely nothing will feel like an “event”. Now it’s clear to see why religion focused so strongly on reality shifting and/or apocalyptic events happening, because without any of that the world would be boring as fuck. We need events, and if we can’t have distractions because movies and other escapist entertainment becomes uninteresting and predictable to everybody, then we might be heading back towards a world where we create crazy ass stories about the future of the real world. Or maybe AI does that for us. Who can tell.

>>213054385
It’s worth noting the shift from unregulated social media platforms to heavily moderated algorithm based platforms happened in response to occupy.

>>213059191
2007.

>>213059224
That’s when the internet went mainstream, it wasn’t tightly controlled, monitored, sabotaged, etc until after occupy.

Fashion changed more from 1982 to 1985 than it did from 2005 to 2025. Things changed so drastically back then with a single hit tv show or music video upending the entire fashion industry overnight. Like when Madonna had her breakout, every girl aged 13 to 25 suddenly looked and dressed like Madonna then next month. It was kind of unsettling really.

I was in high school in early 1990-1994 and we had "80s night" parties where people would dress up in what we considered to be ridiculous 80s fashion we found at thrift shops. We were only a few years into the 90s and the 80s were already viewed as some primitive era of strange music and clothing and it was openly mocked. Meanwhile we were wearing our sunice bright colored windbreakers and fanny packs in godawful color schemes, we were just as bad looking back now. Then suddenly grunge exploded and we all had flannel and ripped jeans, or olive surplus army jackets with black concert shirts.

>>213059224
2013 was when Reddit accidentally reported that most of its posts/activity were coming from Englin Air Force base and when the co-founder of Reddit “committed suicide” shortly later.

>>213059189
With your logic all they have to do is reboot the MCU and novelty will return.

>>213059341
The windbreaker days were my absolute darkest, I need to make that clear. 1990-1991 was when it seemed to peak. And then overnight we turned into young eddy vedder.

>>213058969
It took the orange man himself to point out recently that we're having to bring back a supersonic passenger plane because the technology went backwards.

>>213058770
Sabrina Carpenter is such a great rapper, right my zoomie bro?

>>213057705
But that doesn't change the fact that there hasn't been an 'everywhere' sitcom for 20 years.

>>213053808 (OP)
>The Wonder Years premiered 37 years ago (1988) depicting events two technology generations earlier (1968). A similar show today would be set in 1994.
Consider yourself demystified. You may delete the thread now.

>>213053808 (OP)
Time stopped in 2001.

>>213057160
It’s even funnier how a lot of guys here pine for emo girls not realizing how easy and slutty they all were. Imagine being such a fucking loser that you couldn’t manage to bag the sluttiest subculture of girls to have ever existed.

>>213059584
Because broadcast died in 2007.

2005

>>213059341
>>213059459
average person did not dress like those images

>>213059737
Literally none of those outfits would look out of place today.

>>213058896
Speaking of women’s asses. I think it’s kinda funny how in the 90s women were terrified of their butts looking big to the point it was a running gag on sitcoms and such. Nowadays women are getting BBLs so they can have the fattest asses in the room.

>>213059675
>whores, present day
>:(
>whores, 20 years ago
>:)
Same thing with the gyaru nostalgia on here and other weeb places, or how "free love" sluts that brought us legal infanticide started being romanticized later on even by "based" men.

>>213054091
Birmingham's been brown forever, but London absolutely was white.

>>213059764
Pick up a sears catalog, other than the first image which was a modified outfit, those are all normalfag outfits right from the pages.
-early 80s there was a massive fitness fad carried over from the late 70s. Non-branded athletic wear, short shorts. The "baseball special" was a t-shirt of a made up team with number 17 written on the back and we all had them as a kid.
-Mid 80s was the MTV years
-late 80s was the affluence era of fashion, everyone wanted to be tom cruise from risky business. Everyone wanted to look like they just stepped off a yacht. Ralph loren ruled normalfag fashion at that point.

I could have posted fringe fashion but that would be inauthentic. the stuff posted above was genuine normalfag shit.

>>213058597
The 2000s was another world, dude.

>>213058597
The 2000s was another world, dude.

>>213059627
*2012

>>213057765
>Because we’ve been in the end of history since 2001
Black-pilled. Frank Black-pilled.

>>213058597
>There's the occasional new movie set in the early to mid 2000s and I rarely even notice.
Better call saul takes place in 2002-2004 and few people noticed other than "lol old flip phones!"
The fashion of the show isn't alarming to modern viewers.

>>213053808 (OP)
because you grew up retard

>>213059900
post photos and videos

>>213053808 (OP)
wanna see something crazy. this is real.

>>213060169
adult fashion progresses slowly

>>213058605
Rap was never as big as it is now

>>213053808 (OP)
Cultural and technological stagnation.

>>213054472
they remade Quantum Leap with an Asian

>>213061580
The chronic is one of the most influential albums ever, for better or worse. Rap is only “big” now because everything else has been ground down and it’s cheap to produce.

>>213053808 (OP)
You’re old, OP.
If you’re 60, 20 years is 1/3rd your life.
If you’re 25, that’s 4/5th your life.
You’re just old, probably in your 80s, old man.

>>213060105
People misunderstood the Mayans, 2012 wasn't the literal end of the world, it was the end of the previous "great cycle" which began in 3114 BC. They called it the fourth world. Once you figure that out, it explains everything.

>>213061821
Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay Doggy Dogg's in the mothafuckin' house
BOW WOW WOW YIPPIE YO YIPPIE YAY DEATH ROW'S IN THE MOTHAFUCKIN' HOUSE!
Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay, the sound of a dog brings me to another day
Play with my bone will ya Timmy? I hear you're good for making jokes about your jimmy.
Well here's a jimmy joke about yo mama you might not like, I heard she was a Frisco dyke, but fuck yo mama, I'm talkin' about you and me, toe to toe, Tim M-U-T
Your bark was loud, but your bite wasn't vicious, and them rhymes you were kickin' were quite bootylicious
Get with Doggy Dogg, oh is he crazy? With yo mama and yo daddy hollerin' "baby"
So what that let you know, that if you fuck with Dre, nigga you're fuckin' with Death Row

>>213057112
social media obliterated organic and interesting subcultures that were responsible. nothing can grow and last anymore. if its discovered on shit like tiktok it just morphs into an empty microtrend aesthetic. real end of history shit even if it is shitty "pop culture."

>>213062268
*responsible for those styles

WHAT WOULD YOU DO

>>213053808 (OP)
I'm from before a country behind the iron curtain and 2005 was maybe the last year people (I'm talking about those working, or making decisions) had their shit together, at least on a South America tier. By 2008-2009 they were (and still are) Africa tier and can't stop sabotaging themselves with each decision they make or every ounce of effort they expend.
Also like 10 gazillion more gypsies and now they are importing them by the millions from asian shitholes too.
So no, it dont be like dat... although it would be a realistic and welcome destination.

Why do people get so mad if you point out that the 20th century had unprecedented advancement and that this is not typical of humanity and can't continue forever. Stagnant plateaus are inevitable. People just don't want to accept it.

>>213063125
The first half of the 20th century was so different from the second half that it's amazing that it all happened within a single lifetime. When new technologies are invented, time speeds up. That's why it took us less than 70 years from the invention of the airplane to get to the moon.

Which era of cinema is better?

>>213063361
Obviously fourth world

>>213063125
That was probably the 19th century though (precision manufacturing, from steam trains to handguns etc. also telegraph, photography, low cost printing of engravings etc.)
The 20th century was going for the low hanging slop comparatively, they didn't even think of the consequences (telephones aimed at promoting gossip and promiscuity, radio and recorded music so you can bother your neighbors without any effort, atom bomb so you can't be at peace at home etc.)
If you look into the history of computers you'll see that even there it was full of immigrant-addicted soi boys who had their priorities all mixed up.

>>213063499
The 19th century and 20th century were both unrecognizable at the end from at the beginning. The 21st century already feels that way and we're only a quarter of the way in. I'm genuinely scared to see 2099. Florida might not even exist anymore.

>>213063361
Is that even a question? Probably only the Chinese, Koreans, and LGBT would prefer 5th and not because it's better but because they missed out on the 4th.

People think when AI is able to do all labor jobs they will be able to be artist and create art and shit
No ,I think they all just be degenerate Sexpest instead

>>213061580
Only because most other genres are dead. In the 80s-2000s, rap was a major competitor against rock and pop.

>>213053808 (OP)
>Explain this to me like we’re not in a simulation.
2005 to now is very very different, culturally just as different as 1968 to 1988. The difference is that the change between 1968 and 1988 was incredibly visual and stylized. The difference between 2005 and 2025 has happened entirely in various forms of screens and technology interfaces that are all but impossible to convey as dramatically in shows and films.

>>213063553
Could work the other way around too: easy come, easy go.
But yeah if you learned basic html programming (maybe with a smatterig of js and php), and ran a tiny hosting service, you could earn six figures per year with minimum effort from 1994 to 2004... today by the time you learn the latest tech requirements (mobile or server tech) they have already changed.

>That '00s show

>>213063667
>The difference is that the change between 1968 and 1988 was incredibly visual and stylized
I would argue that's true of 2005 to now as well. 2005 aesthetics were peak maximalist with reality TV, Paris Hilton, bling-bling, edgy as fuck music/movies/video games, etc.

2010s-2020s aesthetics are much more minimalist. It's the difference between Windows XP and the iPhone 16.

>>213063125
Yes, I don't know why people think every ten years everything needs to look and sound totally different when that was only the case for the 20th century (obvious answer is because that's how they grew up). The hundreds if not thousands of years before of people dressing and behaving the exact same way for a century don't count for anything?

>>213063820
That would be kino

>>213053808 (OP)
We mark the passage of time by advances in technology. 20 years used to go by and the world would be completely different, but now it's slowed down and even regressed to the point where time feels as if it's stopped.

>>213063903
Even 2009 feels like a lifetime ago. I don't think you appreciate how much iPhones and social media changed everything.

>>213063927
2013 feels like a different country to me now. After covid people's standards for dressing and behavior in public totally dropped to almost nothing, and I see droves of homeless and junkies everywhere which wasn't the case before

>>213064021
2013 feels more like today than it felt like any year in the 2000s IMO

>>213059521
How many rappers are just Sabrina Carpenter in blackface?

>>213059104
The Internet in the 90s-2000s was both bigger and smaller than it is now.

>>213063927
>>213064021
2009 was probably the last year before every dog and all its relatives got smartphones and started shitting up the internet... I have no idea how that dripped into reality but 2016-2017 was probably the point of no return, when even small islands of decency (permitting decent discussions with strangers) became impossible IRL... it's like mass autism, with the "gen z stare" being only the tip of the iceberg

>>213064246
The most common cutoff I've heard is 2012, which is said to be the last year less than 50% of the population had iPhones. I don't know how true that is, but if so that's very eerie how it lines up with both the Mayan calendar and the discovery of the Higgs boson. /x/ should have a field day with that.

>>213054211
Facebook was good when it just came out. Literally just you and your friends shitposting to each other and seeing what other people from school or whatever were up to. It's not even close to being the same as it was, it's completely different beyond any recognition now. That's why Zuck is trying so desperately to appeal to the zoomers audience, because anyone in their late 20s or older knows how absolutely full of shit he is beyond a shadow of a doubt when he pretends that anything he's done is for the benefit of the user. What a piece of shit that guy is.

>>213063835
There are style differences, they just aren't as iconic and dramatic. Yes, there's a vibe difference between then an now, but if your average young person were to go back to 2005, it's not really their clothes or hair that will make them stand out freakishly. They would just my mindbroken by having to speak to people and make eye contact.

>>213053808 (OP)
>Why does 2005 seem like current area.

Because our culture is stagnant and dead.

>>213064373
>anyone in their late 20s or older knows how absolutely full of shit he is beyond a shadow of a doubt when he pretends that anything he's done is for the benefit of the user.
He really will go down as one of the all time villains of history. Not even joking.

>>213054261

Yeah, Christians could never produce high art like we have now.

Today’s equivalent would be the 90s. All the decades from the 20s or 30s onwards were definitive up until the 2000s.

>>213064620
That's because starting in the late 1990s, the style became to just remix previous styles, so it has not distinct feel of its own. It's the same way AI slop is just a remix of existing things, never a new thing.

>>213053808 (OP)
>Why does 2005 seem like current area.
Because you weren't there. We're in a completely different world than the one we were in in 2005. I might as well be on fucking Mars right now.

>>213053808 (OP)
9/11 wasn't just for oil, money, taking away civil liberties, and the expansion of Greater Israel. You'll work it out.

>>213053843
The recession is what killed America, I know 9/11 was more dramatic but the former ruined the middle class even to this day

>>213055791
>182nd "Fighting She-males" Forming now!
Kek, that's another thing I miss about the 2000s, language wasn't dictated by psychiatrists and their freak patients, and everything didn't sound so clinical and distressing. We called "trans-genders" "she-males" and "he-shes" and "man-ladies" and it was funny and rightfully pointed out how fucking ridiculous the notion of switching genders really is.

>>213064814
This is true. 9/11 dealt a blow to America's psyche as an invincible country but in daily life, the only thing that really changed was airports. Meanwhile, we still haven't recovered from the effects of the recession. The average person used to be able to buy a house right out of high school. No one can ever do that again. Thanks Reagan!

>>213064744
This. Anyone who says the 2000s "was just like today" is either underage or so old that everything after they turned 40 feels the same to them.

Let's make this a 2000s nostalgia thread

>>213055218
>This. Bunch of retards itt. The lack of smartphones alone would be a huge culture shock
okay, switch it to 2007/2008 afther the iphone was out. same shit. chicks switched from low rise jean to mom jeans at some point, and now you can have more than pizza & chinese food delivered. other than that..ssdd

>>213065479
2008 was still a different universe from now. iPhones didn't start becoming a thing for non-rich people until 2009/2010, and even then it still took a few years for iPhones to become inescapable. 2008 was still firmly in the 2000s Blackberry era.

>>213065509
>2008 was still a different universe from now. iPhones didn't start becoming a thing for non-rich people until 2009/2010, and even then it still took a few years for iPhones to become inescapable. 2008 was still firmly in the 2000s Blackberry era.
so the poors not being able to instantly google something made it a 'different universe'?

>>213065566
If you wanted to make a video for the Interwebs, you had to upload it with a computer, which would probably be a desktop computer. iPhones made video sharing instantaneous and turned the entire world into a Vine/TikTok short.

Cartoon Network will never, ever, ever have this much soul again.

>>213058813
I can turn my cock into a helicopter

>>213064350
talking about /x/ I also heard about 2018
probably depends on where you lived but what's most certain is that it was somewhere in the 2010's when things got ruined
>>213064620
>All the decades from the 20s or 30s onwards were definitive up until the 2000s.
not really, it's kind of an illusion
I've seen many people who consider 90s stuff as being "the 80s" and 80s stuff to be "the 70s"
I'd probably split them off (at least for the USA) as
1945-1965 (first golden age)
1966-1979 (first stage of cold war)
1980-1990 (second stage of cold war)
1990-2001 (second golden age)
2002-2007 (post-9/11 inertia until iphone&obama)
2007-mid 2010's (the light goes out)

>>213058813
We shouldn't have given up on space exploration.

>>213053808 (OP)
>Explain this to me like we’re not in a simulation.
You're getting old.
It only gets worse.

>>213065650
The first stage of the Cold War was the 50s, how could you skip over that? The obsession with space aliens and radioactivity in 50s pop culture was literally a metaphor for nukes.

>>213065666
>the old man is Matt Damon, not Tom Hanks
Kino twist

>>213065618
Both Cartoon Network and Adult Swim were absolute powerhouses of soul and niche cultural cultivation. I remember being a kid and watching Adult Swim once it finally got late enough for it to come on and feeling like those bumps between episodes/commercials were like having a cool older brother showing me all the coolest cartoons that I wasn't supposed to be watching. Cartoon Network absolutely killed it with Cartoon City, they really did create their own world that you felt like you got to be a part of, television will never have this much soul ever again.

>>213065618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYlFtHzAoE
Goth girls used to be a thing. Feels like Marceline from Adventure Time was the last remnant of that.

>>213065684
yeah but you had options then (UFO's, googie and space age design, hot rods etc.)... cold war was a clean & romantic poker game back then

with the end of Jim Crow laws in 1965 you were practically pushed into being interested in the cold war, the nitty gritty (especially with the Vietnam boots-on-the-ground in '65), want it or not

>>213065778
The defining Cold War movie, Dr. Strangelove, came out in 1964.

>>213054038
I'm 45. I got a modem when I was 14 and used local BBS, one even had two phone lines so you could play Legend of the Red Dragon WITH someone at the SAME TIME.
Then came the actual Internet. Around '95 was when I first tried it. Then we got it at school maybe the next year. There was Lycos and Alta Vista along with Yahoo for search engines that I can remember. No Google yet I don't think.
People had their own web pages. Angelfire and Geocities. Fan pages for dork shit like Lorenzo Lamas/Renegade or other syndicated TV stuff. But really anything. There were chat rooms where you could meet and even pair off with people. Several times in college this escalated into phone calls and meeting up with girls in my city.
Then I didn't have internet for a few years. I'd get online at the public library or visiting my parents. I didn't feel I was missing anything. Then with MySpace things started to change and people were doing that social stuff; NORMAL people. And around that time smartphones started getting popular and then it would be over.

I remember two different worlds. I miss the old one. Sometimes I unplug for a month and just read books and watch movies, but I've grown accustomed to the internet so it's not always easy to sever the cord.

>>213065833
yeah that was kind of the end of the "clean & romantic cold war" era when eugenic ideas were still acceptable, not to mention practical lol

>>213055726
Schizo.

>>213065838
>Then with MySpace things started to change and people were doing that social stuff; NORMAL people
I can assure you that there were no NORMAL people on MySpace only chads, artists (mostly musicians), emo girls, alt bitches, people into tuned cars etc.
the cream of the crop, as it were

>>213065838
Goddamn I miss Geocities.

>>213058896
its the opposite. human pair bonding is based on orgasmic oxytocin floods, where what a female is looking at is what they pair-bond with.

>>213059856
the woggening of London began in the 90s. the first generation (windrush gen) may have been in the 50s but they still were <5% until around 1997. That's when the floodgates opened.

>>213059341
Wow... that dude in the Early 80s picture is dressed like a faggot. Looks like a god damn gay Village People character. You arent telling me that straight guys thought it was OK to look like that back then, right?....

>>213065975
The 1980s had a strong gay cultural undercurrent. That was the decade of Culture Club and George Michael. Society was more homophobic than ever so gay people expressed themselves through music and fashion.

>>213065838
>I got a modem when I was 14 and used local BBS
get on my level bitch, I've been shitposting since 1989

>>213060281
there's a youtube channel called vampire robot that has a bunch of videos of random shit like "walking through the mall" in the 80s, 90s, and early 00s

>>213053808 (OP)
They turned on the large hadron collider 2 weeks before obama got elected in '08 we live in a trapped alternate hell, I'm the only nigga that has ever thought this. I'm right btw.

>>213066224
The LHC officially started operation in November 2009. 2008 was when tests began but they failed. 2012 was when CERN discovered the Higgs boson so if you want a hard cutoff point that's it.

>>213055245
>Covid was the thing that killed everything
You are completely wrong, kiddo.
Humans have had "plagues" ever since cities have ever existed. For thousands of years. And yes; plagues ENDED "touching grass" for people when they occurred.

We've had outbreaks recently, too, aside from COVID-19, you young child. The only reason it seems so important to YOU is because it's the only outbreak you've ever experienced.
And, fucking, the Internet letting you hear non-stop preaching regardless.

>>213055257
Hahahahaha, oh man. You really think "identity politics" and "immigration" are, fucking, NEW disparate philosophies in ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY, EVERYWHERE? You couldn't get JAPAN to agree with identities and immigration and they're JUST JAPANESE.

>>213066170
Just watched a few of their videos and everyone's clothes look completely normal, you could almost mistake it for modern day if the film quality was better.
https://youtu.be/wuZ8yaPQ6sA?si=K11C28T4YxbUyni8
Thanks for providing pretty solid evidence of yourself being completely wrong lol

>>213056009
>nooooo human nations were never at war before noooooo
Learning can be fun, you know?

This thread is pretty retarded. It's been touched on some but the main difference by far is social media/mobile internet access, as in it's 99.9% of the difference. It completely altered how people interact with each other and the world, and is indeed the reason 2005 seems more like 1985 than 2025. Everything about easily accessible internet gives people less reason to interact with the world around them as it simply makes it almost impossible to be bored. The internet existed in 2005 but you weren't using it on your phone when you were bored and stuck in line at the grocery store, for example.

>>213066647
This. Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave over what his invention caused.

>>213054385
I think following facebook and instagram most people stopped using most online forums. It was a little sad. They are consolidating a lot of the Internet into something they can easily control.

>>213065937
They have Neocities. I made a page about ten years ago for kicks.

>>213065932
My friend circle all had pages in '05 -'07. We were artsy people but not promoting anything. We were normal people. A lot of people were on Myspace. It was the same as Facebook for a while.

>>213056819
Be careful; you're commenting on a picture of millionaire celebrities from California.

Not "Bob" from Jacksonville.

>>213066538
>everyone's clothes look completely normal
probably because everyone's white in that video
>really bakes your potato huh

>>213066768
>We were artsy people but not promoting anything.
that's not normal in any way shape or form
i mean it in the good way though

>>213057020
>They were also less photogenic, even if they were good looking; social media hadn't trained people to lookmaxx yet.
Okay, I burst out laughing to that. Fuck.

Is that LEGITIMATELY the reason so many kids, today, think "Zendaya is such a hottie?"

>>213055323
The vast majority of movies were not only shot on but PROJECTED from film back in 2005. For that reason alone they were better.