When it's all said and done, who'll be the winner?

>>213063855 (OP)
They both suffer from the same thing. They are not conventional stories at all. The characters have no development. They just throw you a bunch of characters and expect you to care about them. I would not recommend either of these films.

>>213063855 (OP)
Fantastic 4 . The superman movie was dogshit

f4 most likely
yeah the movie painfully boring and outright shit in some places but it has the marvel brand recognition and more star power than superman, and thats what matters to audiences

>>213063904
There is some character development when Superman's past was challenged.

>>213063855 (OP)
The one with a plot and good characterization.

>>213063954
>>213063965
>>213063994
OH NONONONONONO

>>213063855 (OP)
When I went to the Thursday night preview showing of Superman, it was only 40% full in the theater and it was silent as fuck during the whole showing.
Tonight when I went to the F4 preview screening, it was completely full and people actually laughed and reacted to stuff.
I liked Superman more personally, but my anecdotal take is that F4 is going to make substantially more money

>>213063855 (OP)
F4 was the better movie

Fantastic Four will get no repeat viewings

We'll know Monday. If it opens higher than Superman it will probably end higher. Superman has lost nearly 400 theaters; mostly premium large format screens. Once you start losing the PLFs the returns take a nose dive.

>>213064013
>Muh previews
F4 is the better movie, it won't drop the audience like Superman did when people figured out it was overhyped dogshit.

>>213064077
when you're that far behind it doesn't matter lol

>>213063954
I was baffled that he spends the whole movie getting his ass kicked. I was like oh this is all leading up to a scene where he’ll be like “I was holding back this whole time… now you’ve made me mad” and it never happened. He just kept getting his ass kicked, the whole time. In the finale the brown boy is praying for Superman’s help and he can’t even show. Why? Busy getting his ass kicked.
It’s like they’re trying too hard to emphasize he’s not Snyder’s invincible God. But he also shouldn’t seem weaker than like, Spider-Man? Just an odd take on the character.

>>213064132
must have watched a different movie since the fight with Ultraman was insanely cool

>>213064126
“Far behind” in China? Who gives a fuck? You realize China is not the world?

>>213063855 (OP)
It's retarded to compare the two. That is some corporate kikery to give a shit about. They are different universes and different producers. You should care if the movies are individually good or not.

>>213063855 (OP)
F4 is shit and Marvel tries to push the good reviews, they're scared guys, Gunn is coming

>>213064126
Are you retarded?

Quality lasts longer than hype, bro.

Superman fell like bird shit the second week, and it's been struggling ever since.

You can bury your head in the sand all you want. But there's a reason Marvel is Marvel and DC wants to be Marvel.

>>213064166
Must have watched a different movie since you’re telling me I watched a different movie in response to it being exactly like I described. Superman was getting his ass kicked by Ultraman as per usual for Superman in that movie, literally not even competitive. Then he removed Lex’s ability to puppeteer and just barely managed to get lucky enough to catch a piece of falling bus in the nick of time and knock him into a black hole. It wasn’t “insanely cool” either, it was a conversation with Lex (while getting his ass kicked) more than a fight. Your post is absurd

>>213064029
No it’s not lol

>>213064308
It is.

If you're denying it you're kind of delusional.

Superman was a disoriented mess.

>>213063855 (OP)
Jesus fucking Christ who cares?! Is your life so meaningless that you have to debate which capeslop movie is more or less sloppy?

>>213064255
It's 30% of Superman's already abysmal results so it can drop whatever percent and will still not make any relevant amount of money in China

>>213063855 (OP)
Fantastic 4 easily, it will gross at least 700 milly.

>>213064363
Who raped you?

>>213064480
/tv/

>>213064013
Chinese always prefer good-looking actors. Pedro and Kirby have no chance against David and Brosnahan

>>213063904
This. People shit on "MUH ORIGIN STORY" but these characters have so many origin stories that they're necessary to tell the audience what kind of rules were playing by. Like, it's fucking weird that this Superman has rapist parents and already has the dog but just barely started dating Lois, and also he has the superbots and hes also a huge fucking crybaby and also the Gaza conflict is happening and Lexcorp is actually Luthorcorp like what the fuck is going on here?

>>213063994
He's a snyder fan. So his opinion is irrelevant.

>>213064028
Is there even anything to laugh about in F4? There’s like 2 jokes

>>213063965
I didn't find it boring. plus Galactus was cool af.

>>213064029
No. Fantastic four is far less entertaining, the characters are hollow and dull, chemistry is non existent, editing is way worse, and they made galactus into a fucking jobber.

>>213063855 (OP)
Superman, easily

>>213063855 (OP)
Superman clears, easy. F4 was good, which in MCU terms is godlike considering the absolute diarrhea they've given us so far, but it still isn't better than Superman.

>>213063855 (OP)
Having gotten back from F4 five minutes ago, I'd say Superman was better. Neither felt particularly astounding.

>>213063855 (OP)
The audience will always be the winner

Both films lost to the worst Jurassic World film so they are both kinda the losers and show that Superhero fatigue is definitely real. Feige and Gunn should both feel nervous about the genre especially now that videogame and toy films will definitely gain steam.

>>213064723
>Superman, easily
>>213064752
>Superman clears, easy.
Just over one minute between posts. Same semantic structure.

Gunnfags are so scared they have to pretend they'te multiple people.

>>213064855
I wasn’t going to say anything but that is clearly spamming this thread lol

>>213064077
Is still shit thoughbeit

>>213064882
*that guy

>>213063855 (OP)
I dont know as far as box office but filmwise fantastic four is leagues better than superman

>>213063855 (OP)
In terms of quality:

Fantastic Four > Jurassic > Superman

In term of BO (when it's all said and done)

Ff >= Jurassic > Superman

>>213064560
Yeah, the new Superman is not handsome so are the fantastic 4.

>>213064855
Anon I..

>>213064605
>and Lexcorp is actually Luthorcorp
wow we need a whole prequel movie to explain that

fantastic bore can never be better than superman...

>>213063855 (OP)
Sony always wins baby

>>213064882
>>213064902
Let him larp, a coping Gunnfag won't change anything.

Fantastic 4 has A-list actors, and therefore feels like a premium experience.

Superman is made with C- to B-lists.

>>213063904
Nobody said this about passion of the Christ but it did the same thing. There's nothing wrong with skipping the setup if the character is so pervasive in a culture that they need no introduction.

>>213064983
>Fantastic 4 has A-list actors
Oh right, Pedro Pascal and.. uhh.. uhhhh

>>213064930
Marveljeets are schizos.

>>213064617
All the Ben and Johnny scenes got laughs from people

>>213064715
>chemistry is non existent
This part clearly exposes your bias, the chemistry was the best part of F4

>>213065005
>comparing jesus to supes
i dont think jesus massacred hundreds of thousands of innocents, snyderfag

>>213064930
>Inspect element, delete
>see I'm not a schizo
Lmao...go and waste your salary on more Superslop tickets, before it gets pulled

>>213065049
Superjeets refuse to see F4, but they will pretend to have.

>>213063855 (OP)
>one is reviving a dead brand
>one is widely popular and MCU has a good track record of movies
And yet Superman exceeded expectations. The general audience loved it, unlike MoS.

F4 should earn 3x more than Superman. It will be embarrassing if F4 didn't reach a billion

Also, it should have been Krasinski instead of Pedro.

>>213065062
There is no inspect element on a phone but ok schizo

>>213065049
The movie is truly trash if you think the non existent chemistry was the best part. Reed and sue don't even act like they love eachother.

>>213063855 (OP)
I haven't seen F4 yet but I have a sneaking suspicion that Thunderbolts mogs it, as that was legit pretty good. Superman was also good for ironically the exact opposite type of character, respectively Sentry and Superman. Who could both solo Galactus btw.

>>213063994
Tyrone is an idiot, and I'm not saying that because I frequent /pol/. He just has terrible taste for someone with a million subs.

NOOOOOOOO THIS ISN'T FAIR THE MOUSE IS CHEATING

>>213065171
Tyrone is a /pol/ wannabe. If he liked it despite some of the controversial decisions like turning Surfer into a woman, maybe it's a sleeper hit, but I won't comment on it until I see it.

>>213065171
>He just has terrible taste for someone with a million subs.
Give some examples that do not include the aforementioned movies.

Because to me it sounds like you're coping.

>>213065214
That was the one thing he complained about, he was fined with it but he preferred the other Silver Surfer from the Jessica Alba movie.

>>213064969
This. Spider Chads eating well in 2026. We've got ME MASK YOU SOMN' now.

>>213064855
I really don't give a shit, both are enjoyable, I just liked Superman better. I refuse to engage in corporate cock sucking, idgaf about any Marvel vs DC bs

>>213065282
Oh you're not allowed to mention that he likes MoS either, because that would just expose you.

>>213065304
Careful not to eat some of my bug spray bitch

>>213063855 (OP)
Superman.

>>213063855 (OP)
I don't care about box office stuff but superman is rancid dogshit while fantastic four is actually fun and endearing despite a garbage script.

>>213063855 (OP)
Superman wins. The F4 aren't punk rockers, they've got sweaters on for crying out loud.