Thread 213081239

is dragon ball worth diving into

>>213081239 (OP)
genuinely no
the epic hype moments that make you want to get into it that people post are the only good moments
the fights take whole episodes or longer
you wait an eternity in between each move
they speak novels and say nothing while waiting to hit each other
there's weird pedo jap shit throughout
mostly there is just a lot of dull stuff

Yup, it's the only anime worth watching, everything else is either
>Dragonball but worse
>Gayshit

Dragon Ball Recut is great, has sub and the dub if you're exceptional.

>>213081239 (OP)
only the martial arts tournaments

>>213081284
jesuschrist what a fag, bet you're a blue haired zoomie that watches demon hunter like a faggot

>>213081239 (OP)
It's great. I prefer the manga though.

>>213081239 (OP)
Original Dragon Ball series is kino.
Stay away from DBZ and everything else.

Read the original manga (up to Z, stop at Super). Perfectly paced, a masterwork of the genre. The anime is just filler, but the first handful of movies are worth watching.

>>213081239 (OP)
Depends. If you're 12 years old it's the greatest shit ever. Otherwise you probably won't get much out of it, except if you saw it when you were 12 and you're rewatching it for nostalgia.

>>213081239 (OP)
Yeah it is, it's a really fun series. The anime can be slow so if it's ever bothering you then switch to the manga.

>>213081664
This. It's just a simple straightforward adventure with none of the bullshit that comes after.

Aw schweet, a /dbs/ thread!

>>213081284
kek what an adhd retard
they discuss strategies in between moves, dumbass

>>213081479
>>213082248
Insecure tranny return to your board

>>213081239 (OP)
I watched DB after DBZ and even though DBZ was cooler, DB was way more engaging. It felt like a giant adventure where anything could happen rather than just power level battles and training arcs.

>>213081239 (OP)
Read the manga.

DB is much better than DBZ but I dont really remember if its worth watching. I watched it so much as a kid I never need to see it again.

I only watched the original series after dbz kai came out and honestly db + dbz kai was more enjoyable for me than any long running shounen series other than hunter x hunter.

>>213081664
Nah DBZ is a very natural continuation

>>213081239 (OP)
Read the comic, the TV show is fairly drawn out and adds a bunch of filler. Its still enjoyable but the comic is one of the all time greats.

>>213081239 (OP)
You'd be better off reading Dr. Slump, something that's actually in Toriyama's wheelhouse, instead of a comedy adventure series that turned into an unfunny battle series that manchildren obsess over.

both DB and DBZ drag things out too much like 3-5x longer than they are in the manga. still worth watching though

it's a fun cartoon. No idea why so many autistic people hate it.

>>213082082
DBZ up to the Saiyan saga is good and feels like Dragonball.

>>213081239 (OP)
I'd recommend watching the fan recut of dragon ball but there isn't really a good way to watch DBZ because the original has a fuckton of filler and Kai changed some stuff like the aspect ratio for the buu saga is 16:9 instead of 4:3.

Dragonball is awesome. If you could find a super cut that skips all the intro/recap/next episode stuff then it's not very long. Goku's such a happy kid, it's a very light show.

>>213081239 (OP)
DB is good because Goku actually loses fights

>>213087086
Goku doesnt always win in Z either. Doesn't beat Vegeta the first time, doesn't defeat any of the androids, doesn't beat cell, only defeats Buu with Mr. Satan's help

>>213081239 (OP)
I liked the end of it where it randomly and suddenly turns serious. I don't remember but I think Krillin just got fucking killed and then it turned into early sagas DBZ, which are my favorite.

>>213081664
/thread

for me it's 18

>>213081239 (OP)
If you can get through the rough transition from perverted gag manga to martial arts manga that takes it's self pretty seriously in the first arc then yeah it's pretty good

>>213088177
>rough transition from perverted gag manga
That's Toriyama at his best
>to martial arts manga that takes it's self pretty seriously
The faggots who take Dragonball seriously and think battles are based on numbers and """math"""

>>213081239 (OP)
is that Takuma next to him

>>213088284
I'm not denying that Toriyama is good at comedy but the Pilaf arc is legitimately one Iof the unfunnuest things I've ever read, I'm sorry I can't find humor in little boy penis

>>213086382
What a dumb opinion. So, you're saying Kai would be a worthwhile watch because it's well-cut -- but unfortunately they changed the aspect ratio and that renders it unwatchable?

C'mon. Who cares about what aspect ratio dragon ball Z is in? This isn't fucking Lawrence of Arabia. It looks fine.

>>213081284
That's only true for Z and Super. Except the pedo stuff. Dragonball is full of that.

>>213081239 (OP)
Dragon Ball is one of the greatest manga of all time, from start to finish. The anime is a tremendous step down if your age isn't a single digit.

Remind that torry yammer did tien dirty after he stole the king piccolo arc.

>>213087086
Goku loses constantly in Z though and the only one he beat legitimately was Frieza. Died fighting Raditz, pretty much lost to Vegeta, was comatose during the Android saga, fucking died to Cell and only beat Buu because of Mr. Satan, Vegeta and the Dragon bawlz

>>213089957
always a jobber
sorry tien, the crane school was alwlays crap, terrible teacher

>>213087791
Yeah after the Tien saga Piccolo appears and murders Krillin. It was mostly a gag series up until that point.

>>213087086
are u retarded, goku always loses fights in Z

>>213088177
When would you say the transition really happens? Immediately after Pilaf or was it later than that? After RR?

>>213081239 (OP)
If you really want to dive into it, read the manga. The anime is slow.

>>213090044
thanks for the spoiler fag

>>213088922
It's hilarious how Oolong saves the world by squandering an infinite wish on a pair of panties

>>213081239 (OP)
Damn is that anime Hulk Hogan?

>>213090010
he genuinely has a higher winrate as a kid. the only people he never beat were Jackie Chun and General Blue.

>>213090116
>spoiling a 40 year old series that everyone and their dog have watched already

>>213081239 (OP)
Absolutely.
It's like a chaotic fever dream of randomness in a visceral fantasy land. It's brilliant.
Z is tonally completely different. All I can say is that the final season of Dragonball is different from the rest of the show and also the best of any Dragonball media full stop. Z was an attempt to make an entire show just based on its approach, but quickly devolved into power creeping and nonsense.

>>213090087
Pilaf
Red Ribbon
Fortuneteller Baba
Tien -> here

Are you meant to watch Dragonball Z with no filler or Kai?

>>213090116
Spike dies.

>>213090017
Tien is LITERALLY the bravest, most heroic Z fighter of them all.

>>213090237
Yeah I'd say that's where the tone changes but the martial arts stuff became pretty prominent after the first dozen episodes

>>213090352
name 3 scenes were he's portrayed as the bravest most heroic fighter

>>213090415
Nobody's gonna call him ten, just like nobody says muten roshi.

>>213090352
this is one of the few things Tien does in DBZ besides die. and Im not saying thats fair, he should be stronger then krillin at least but somehow by then he isnt

>>213090415
Tien was probably the strongest human character in DBZ, but Super made it so Krillin was because "muh childhood rival".

>>213081239 (OP)
Idk but I’d like to dive into Goku’s anus with my cock if you know what I mean.

>>213081239 (OP)
Go back to /a/

>>213090087
The show maintains it's comedic tone throughout but it definitely takes a backseat to the martial arts stuff after the pilaf arc

>>213081239 (OP)
from red ribbon on its pretty great. the first arc with pilaf I always found pretty lame

>its a goku gets stronger and/or faster episode
Love those.

>>213090508
headcanon but i imagine tien is weaker because he does the same basic training since 30 years. meditating under a waterfall and sparring with chaozu wont get you far. Krillin spars with Goku and 18 thats way more room for improvement than a radditz level Partner

>>213090143
no, this is
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZPw2cAOrcQ

>>213090508
I am pretty sure the manga explicitly or damn near explicitly makes it clear that Tien is in fact the strongest. He is borderline not even human, I mean, he has a third eye for some reason.

And yeah I have to share the sentiment to read the manga You skip so much filler and "ARRRGGGHHHH!!!" animation crap that the animes have. I will make one complainant that starting with Tien's introduction you get a lot of characters introduced who then don't get time to shine or be relevant once the series becomes Goku and Vegeta plus jobber friends. The power spikes become crazy - Tien is like the strongest human, then soon after you have Piccolo, then soon after that it's Raditz, THEN you get the literal power level shit with Vegeta's big friend whatshis name, the Saibamen, the Ginyu force, then Freiza. It kind of dies down after that but you go from a superhuman Tien all the way to a guy who can destroy entire planets if he gets pissed off.

>>213090562
It was lame but it's mandatory to watch it if only just for Bulma being a slutty tease. And yes I realize this .gif is from the movie but still

>>213090454
1. (attempted) mafuba on king piccolo
2. (attempted) one armed attack against napa auto parts
3. (attempted) cockblock of semi erect cell

>>213090658
He has the third eye because it's some esoteric concept in Buddhism or something

anybody remember like the last 5 episodes of dragonball after goku wins the tournament? he like has to go underground to put some fire out on a mountain. its so fucking random

>>213090920
Yeah what a weird way to end it since it's anime only filler. That never happens in the manga.

>>213081239 (OP)
Fan edits are the way to go. I'm a boomer who grew up with OG DB/Z, and nostalgia be damned, the pacing is nightmarishly terrible.

I'd also recommend checking out One Piece if you like DB. I think it does a better job of retaining that adventure/humorous tone of early DB, while also having plenty of emotional/hype moments as well, plus the worldbuilding and character development runs circles around DB. That said, either read the manga or check out the "One Pace" fan edit that cuts out the filler. The pacing in the regular anime is even worse than DB.

>>213082334
>It felt like a giant adventure where anything could happen rather than just power level battles and training arcs.

I get so tired of that argument. The first arc is basically a horny road trip comedy, and you maybe get some of that adventurous stuff for like 2/3 of the Red Ribbon arc. The rest is either martial arts tournaments or once Tao Pai Pai shows up, it's basically proto-DBZ.

>>213091091
faggots like you hate when piccolo got his drivers license. some of the filler rocks

>>213081239 (OP)
you're supposed to watch it when you're 8-14
the manga is still a good read though

>>213090044
Yeah it was kino. It was completely unexpected, a pretty tame show where no one dies but then one of the kiddie characters just gets fucking killed. Then the rest of the series naturally builds into where Z started. But you have to sit through a ton of kiddie DB to get there.

>>213090143
Mr. Satan for sure was, at least in the dub. The original Mr. Satan might be based on some Japanese wrestler who I've never heard of though.

>>213089957
>>213090415

>>213081239 (OP)
remember when Hogan went on that rant about his daughter dating a Namekian?

>>213090232
>ll I can say is that the final season of Dragonball is different from the rest of the show and also the best of any Dragonball media full stop.

Watching DB for the first time after DBZ, I was actually taken aback by how brutal the Piccolo Jr fight was at the end of the 23rd Tournament. They've still got him bleeding red there, so it gets pretty gnarly.

>>213091249
Yeah some of the filler is good but there's a lot that's also shit. I liked most of the Goku-centric filler in DragonBall but come Z I only really liked the driver's license episode, Snakeway, most of Gohan's training (besides that one where he meets the orphans. fuck that episode was useless) and the Otherworld Tournament Arc.

>>213091249
I notice you guys always just bring up that one episode.

>>213091291
I think it's worth sitting through the gag portion of the series to really appreciate the tonal change that comes with Piccolo. I do also legitimately enjoy all the tournament sagas especially the one with Tien.

>>213091455
I find the tournaments kind of boring because you can easily tell from the jump who the final players are going to be, so there's a bunch of boring filler matches to sit through.

>>213081239 (OP)
If you're brown or under 10, go ahead.

>>213091396
>>213091429
another great filler episode is when vegeta and nappa stop on that alien planet with the bug people and destroy it

>>213089957
Tien was extra savage as an antagonist. I can see him breaking Nappa's legs, insulting Vegeta, mocking Cell without all that development. He can kill King Piccolo, but it seems finger beams are used by bad guys.

I like that there's some other Tien fans out there, was always my favorite more minor character.

>>213091890
I like the cat guy who has the senzu beans

>>213091967
Korin is chill

>>213091377
By what metric? The whole fight was Piccolo uses magic, Goku calls him an idiot, then beats him. Tien had technical skills to beat Goku, but Ma Jr got beaten so hard he had to beg to torture. Goku spared him for the smart reason of keeping the Dragonballs alive and knowing Piccolo is dumb. I find it hard to believe Budokai Goku would be afraid of Raditz cause I can see him doing the same thing. You see some of Budokai Goku in Namek where he insults Freiza on being an idiot, but never match the one sided beaten down of Ma Jr. I can see Budokai Goku jumping inside Vegeta's Great Ape insides and pummeling them

>>213081239 (OP)
Its better than Z. There is no pedo stuff, bulma is a slutty teen girl and Goku is a retard. Both are characterized appropriately and playfully in a time when faggots and feminists weren't moderating the media. The fights were far more interesting and impactful than Z. Z was good but the they went too hard with the sci fi and the action. DB has more charm.

>>213092247
>There is no pedo stuff
Anon have have you even watched the show? It has 100% more pedo shit than Z.

>>213092226
I just meant how bloody and mean it is. It felt like from the death of Krillin to the end of the Frieza arc, Toriyama was on an edgy streak.

>>213091890
Tien was a way cooler Anti hero than vegeta. Was lame how he just drops out of everything in the saiyan saga. Same with roshi, he was essentially what piccolo was in Z. He was a mentor, a strategist and he was funny as hell. A much more colorful character .

>>213092355
>Tien was a way cooler Anti hero than vegeta.

He loses that almost immediately after his introductory arc, when he becomes a repentant disciple of Roshi. He doesn't even lose to Piccolo, but one of his offspring.

>>213091338
tbf that door was sheetrock reinforced with an adimantium skeleton and 2 coats of vibranium paint interfused with a dititanium blend. Even Getes couldn't knock it down, and it survived Trunks' blast. It was literally stronger than Frieza.

>>213091486
yeah but those fights would usually only be a couple pages in the manga but 1 or 2 full episodes of the anime

>>213090634
he could pin Cell down and deflect Super Buu's attacks. By comparison Krillin couldn't even touch the androids and couldn't even move in the presence of Buu. Further, Krillin basically gave up fighting after Cell.

Tien's third eye is a reference to Buddhist enlightenment.

>>213091278
I didn't watch the series until I was 29. I enjoyed it. only time I got genuinely bored was during the Red Ribbon saga.

>>213092355
>>213092426
Tien's antihero tendencies were a prototype for Piccolo's antihero tendencies, which were a prototype for Vegeta's antihero tendencies.

>>213092805
>Tien's third eye is a reference to Buddhist enlightenment.

I remember when Daima first started, and there was all that talk about the "King's Eye" that gives you godlike power, and /a/ was getting hyped, thinking they were going to give Tien a little redemption after warming the bench for decades. Then it turned out to just be some shit that some witch had a bunch of in a jar.

>DOOD IS THIS SHOW WORTH MAKING AN OATH TO GOD THAT I WILL WATCH 500 EPISODES OR I GET KILLED AND SENT TO HELL??????
Uh... you know you can just start watching it, and if you are not enjoying it, stop watching? Right? If you do want to watch it, you can torrent the whole show from ikaos on nyaa.

>>213092979
Daima was a kick in the teeth

>>213092979
the shop gag was one of the good elements of it, people take Dragon Ball was too seriously

>>213093119
>people take Dragon Ball was too seriously

Can't blame that on us, that's what it's been for most of its existence, and for whatever reason, Toei seems to think that "returning to its roots" means making it into some whimsical children's show, which it never was.

>>213093175
You are a retarded shitskin.

>>213093221
Ad hominem is the fool's weapon. Try again with a real argument.

>>213093256
No, I'm not going to write you an essay that you'll just ignore. You're a faggot shitskin amerishart. You have not actually consumed Dragon Ball. Kill yourself, worthless faggot.

>>213093299
So you've got nothing. That's what I thought.

>>213093299
>You have not actually consumed the most basic bitch, entry-level, normiecore anime of all time

>>213081239 (OP)
Yes, the original series is excellent. The Z anime is really decompressed and is where most of the criticisms of DB come from

>>213090148
Goku also lost to Tenshinhan in the finals of the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi.

>>213093175
Daima wasnt perfect but theres nothing new with undercutting a big enemy with a joke. especially when the third eye was an asspull and was joke already being Hybis's belt

>>213093396
I meant people he never got a victory against. he lost to Tao too but then got revenge.

>>213091890
>Cell Saga
>Krillin does nothing (except almost dooming Earth and Humanity because a girl smiled at him) while Tenshinhan holds off Semi-Perfect Cell by himself
>In the manga it was made even clearer that Cell suffered heavy pain and had burn marks on him from the Shin Kikōhō when he stepped out of the crater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4IUoo9EYM

>Buu Saga
>Krillin does nothing while Tenshinan was the only human on Earth (besides Satan) to survive Super Buu's Human Extinction Attack
>Tenshinhan then proceeds to save Potential Unleashed Gohan from Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed)'s attack

But Krillin is stronger because Toriyama said so lmao.

>>213081284
you're a fucking buffoon. not everything needs to be a fight. there's a lot of great moments throughout but you're too much of a faggot to enjoy them.

>>213090352

He is also the the sexiest.

>>213093418
To each their own, I guess, but I feel like it kind of diminishes the stakes a bit. I'm also not really a fan of how Majin Buu went from an ancient demonic creation of a powerful wizard that grew out of his control, to a primordial being who aforementioned wizard just kind of directed at his enemies and never really had much control over, to just some side project that a silly Dragon Quest witch cranked out in an afternoon, and is basically just a modified Saibaman. At least to my recollection, that show had such a little impact that I'm already forgetting the finer details.

>>213093549
Go to bed, Launch. You're drunk again.

>>213093580
Who the fuck is Launch

>>213093607
Tenshinhan's wife.

>>213093564
Buu's origins were already pretty vague, in the manga Bibidi was only mentioned by name

Is the Super manga being finished?

Why did Toriyama hate him so much?

>>213093694
Toyotoro basically said maybe someday but won't continue at least in 2025. Super has basically caught up to the epilogue of the DB manga anyway, only loose ends are Black Frieza, and I guess Goku and Vegeta surpassing Beerus

>>213093711
I'm basically Master Roshi without the talent.

>>213093755
>only loose ends are Black Frieza,

What a bizarre thing to tease, if you have no clear intent of following up on it. Not that Frieza hasn't already been beaten multiple times at this point anyway.

>>213093797
I'm sure Toriyama intended on following up on it until he died

>>213093797
i think he had intent but they wanted to adapt Super Hero and then Toriyama died. even if toriyama just came up basic outlines or gave toyotoro feedback it was still developed as a collaboration

>>213093820
Surely, that's something that Toyotaro could handle without training wheels. Plus, I thought I read something recently about Toriyama's old editor coming back to give Toyotaro a hand.

>>213093607
>>213093628

>>213081239 (OP)
Is that Dog the bounty hunter??!!!

>>213081664
>Stay away from Funi-dubbed DBZ and everything else.
FTFY

>>213082331
Trannies hate the Dragon Ball franchise since it correctly portrays faggotry as something that should be mocked.

>>213084133
Agreed. Anyone saying to only read the manga up to chapter 195 is a massive faggot.
>>213084811
Faggots and trannies hate it. But they aren't people so it doesn't matter.

>>213087086
>t. Never watched Z but wants to pretend he has to impress internet strangers
You're such a pathetic fucking faggot.

>>213093376
*The greatest anime of all time

>>213093607
Funimation's butchering of the name "Lunch"

>>213081239 (OP)
The ToP would've been much better with Gotenks, and Buu. They should've took the place of Roshi , Krillin, and Tien, The only loss would be Roshi. Tien is a sentient nothingburger, and Krillin is an irritating little bitch.

>>213094946
Buu I can see but Gotenks would have same problem as Gogeta unless time works different there since there was tons of fusions

>>213081239 (OP)
dragon ball yes, dragon ball z no

at least in the manga i dont really feel like theres that clear of a divide between DB and DBZ besides fleshing out gokus origin. it seems like a natural progression from King Piccolo to Piccolo Jr to the Sayains

>>213083038
until it becomes a Terminator ripoff all of a sudden

>>213095000
Wasn't the tournament about 45 minutes long? It wouldn't be unreasonable to have Trunks, and Goten, fighting unfused at SS2 for the first 15 miuntes.

>>213095090
I think? Its been awhile desu had some favorite fights in it but was mostly interested in the banter off the stage :@

>>213094946
Trunks and Goten are too playful. The ToP's filler actually did a good job at making Roshi, Krillin, and Tien's techniques useful for eliminating enemies.

>>213095266
Togohenks-sp wonder what he would be more serious like vegetable?

>>213094878
I think you mean Raunchy

yes

>>213081284
Just watch or read the original Dragon Ball, and Dragon Ball Z ending with the Namek/Frieza arc. Everything else after Namek/Frieza is fanfic.

>>213087086
Goku never won in Z faggot

Early DBZ > Dragonball > Late DBZ > Daima > ToP Super> GT > Rest of Super

>>213084133
>comic

>>213094946
>Krillin is an ir-ACK

>>213098864
what if told you manga are japanese comics

>>213099224
That's nuts

That whole thing where goku dies and has to have a training arc on the super high gravity place was etched into my memory. Don't really remember the rest.

>>213081239 (OP)
depends are you a faggot ass weeb? THEN YES LOL

>>213099273
that's during the first saga of DBZ.

>>213081239 (OP)
holy kino frame
goatcha
>>213081324
unfortunately
everytime i sadly happen to stumble upon a figurine shop it's either gooner shit or the coolest fucking toy of trunks looking badass
no inbetween sigh
like lookat this fucking box he look like king von bruh

>>213098202
Daima too high. I'd put it below ToP Super. Hell Black arc Super is better than Daima too. Daima is just really dull despite the potential it had to recapture OG DB vibes.

>>213090723
It's because he meditated so hard under master Shen that he literally opened his third eye

>>213091527
I legit loved that episode. But faggots with "media literacy" call any episode with a coherent, self contained plot "filler".

I'm on episode 279 of DBZ. It's been a drag. I don't think this series is meant to be watched in close succession. I had only ever seen a bit of the Buu saga years ago on CN. When Toriyama died, I started watching through the sub of DB and then onto DBZ. I like a lot of it, but I think the 'gag' part of it ruins what should be more serious. Base form Frieza felt really sinister and I think he was ruined as he leveled up. Piccolo is my favorite.

>this character is super powerful!
>and now he gets even more powerfuller!
>no discernible difference

>everybody on earth is dead!
>now Buu is free to...uh, fly around on an empty earth and eat cake...?
>that's okay, we have the dragon balls lol

it has great moments just like FP mentioned but it suffers from the curse that many manga adaptations suffer - saving on costs and material by having huge pauses between each cool thing that happens by showing everybody's face still as a "reaction".
Honestly I hope AI will be able to be useful soon by automatically editing all the useless "I-Impossible !!!! " and the smoke rising fluff out and we will have a great show

>>213081239 (OP)
yea its rockin kino

>>213081239 (OP)
It mogs z, gt, and super. Mysticalshit>>>gayalienshit

>>213094240
i'll never forgive toriyama for literally forgetting about lunch, she is the best girl of the franchise

>>213081239 (OP)
grow the fuck up you retarded faggot

>>213100781
Get over it, Raj. It's just a drawing

>>213087947
Lucky bastard

>>213081239 (OP) pretty much this >>213081284

There's some kino to be had and Toriyama's 1960s-80s mish mash aesthetics are absolutely top tie but it's 90% skippable filler and every storyline plays out the exact same with invincible Goku saves the day. If you're autistic it's must watch anime, but if you're a mature adult you won't be able to stomach more than 4-5 episodes before you need to stop watching.

It's in desperate need of a filler removal edit.

>>213100781
It turns out Toriyama did not forget her.

>>213101174
How tf can anyone call up a company to tell them to remove a character from their flagship IP and they say ok? Just because she can't show up to work

>>213101293
The world used to be different back then. Humanity was not automatically trumped by shit like "flagship IP".

>>213101293
she didn't call the company, she called the author directly. remember, in Japan the mangaka owns the IP rights. not the publisher.
also, she only asked for it to be temporary.

>>213100054
its filler because its added madeup shit they did for the sole reason of stretching out the gap between the manga and the anime. filler is good but it still filler

>>213101390
*can be

>>213101293
I don't think it's uncommon for mangaka to be close friends with their character's voice actors.

>>213101354
>>213101357
Don't be stupid. No sensible person gimps their own product just because some VA can't show up to work. Besides, anime is more than just a mangaka production - that's an entire studio. The picrel says she could no longer show up to work, meaning it wasn't suggested as temporary. And she asked him to remove the character from the manga, which has nothing to do with voice work. That's diva bitch actions and he should have laughed and said 'fuck you'.

this franchise doesn't exist outside of the Saiyan, Namek, and Cell sagas

>>213101489
Fortunately, people back then weren't insane psychos mindbroken by the internet and inceldom. That's why we get to enjoy something like DB in the first place. You can see what's being produced by these people now, it's not great. Only humans can create, and being human requires humanity. Being a soulless bugman obsessed with muh contracts is what brought us here.

>>213081239 (OP)
read the manga, avoid the s how if you're not a 9 year old living in the 90s

>>213101546
>Being a soulless bugman obsessed with muh contracts is what brought us here.
You're making my point for me.

>>213101565
the only time this show mattered was when I was 9
I think you'll find trying to experience it in any other way, at any other time, is for faggots
DBZ doesn't exist outside the dub

>>213101489
>gimp
Launch was already practically out of the story at that point

>>213095000
>>213095090
>Goten and Trunks make a tiny mistake in their fusion dance
>Get fat/old useless Gotenks and effectively eliminate themselves right away since there won't be time to wait it out and try again

OP it is a great show. It starts trailing off by the end. But it is consistently enjoyable to watch until the piccolo jr arc.

>>213081239 (OP)
Yes. It's goated for a reason.

>>213081239 (OP)
I liked the show. Yes goku has plot armor but ignoring this flaw that 99% of anime shares it's a good show, reasonably entertaining.

>>213082334
You'll love Daima then, I'm watching it finally as the dub is finished and it's so good it's like DB 2.

>>213103355
>has plot armor
>dies multiple times
If you say so

>>213103384
>keeps coming back
I don't call it death if they're rubber bands.

Watch it with the Japanese soundtrack

>>213081239 (OP)
There are some really great moments, but around DBZ Goku starts to get like this:
>the bad guy is beating me! I don't think I can take much more of this
>I managed to pull through and smack him good.........but what's this? A new form!
>hmph, luckily I was also holding back! now let's do it for realsies this time! I'm actually serious now
the SINGLE final fight with Frieza takes like 50 episodes and Goku and Frieza both pull this stupid routine 3 times. So you can definitely enjoy it, but also may want to skip some episodes.

>>213088922
>Pilaf arc is legitimately one Iof the unfunnuest things I've ever read

You are a drooling bufoon, Pilaf is the greatest villain in all of dragonball, Z or otherwise. He's just so much more fun than some endlessly monologueing gay alien or robot.

>>213091249
He didn't get his drivers license though, he crashed the car and flunked his test...