Thread 213095902

What went right?

Nothing. The book is way better

The titties. At least both those bitches were hot. The ending sucked

>>213095902 (OP)
The scene where the guy sets himself on fire. That's pretty much it.

>>213095902 (OP)
I remember seeing this in the theater and the audience booing in the intro when we all realized we were going to slowly go through all nine fucking gates.

mumbo jumbo

>>213096031
>movie is called The Ninth Gate
>don't expect gates 1-8 to exist
????

boris btfoing those dumb cultfags in their stupid costumes

>>213096076
No the opening credits scene, where it sloooowly crawls across a grassy lawn and goes under a stone arch.
That fucking intro is still like 5 minutes long when you fast forward through it.
Opening credits weren't that long when they ran all the credits BEFORE the movie starts.

they got rid of the actual plot of the novel so they got a streamlined movie but a lesser narrative

>>213095902 (OP)
one word, aesthetic

>>213095902 (OP)
I think Polanski is literally a Satanist so the movie feels quite real. It has a unique atmosphere because the subject matter is displayed in a sort of cozy, intimate manner, from the perspective of someone who doesn't hate or fear the occult, but partakes of it. Apart from that the locations are also kino and the idea of an old book hunter is based

>>213095902 (OP)
Really comfy movie. I was taken aback to find out that this and Chinatown had the same director.
>>213096167
>>213095917
Wait, this shit is based on a book?

>>213096522
Yeah by Arturo Perez Reverte, a spanish writer

comfy movie really nice slow pace and chill for most part
ive rewatched it a bunch

>>213096522
Yeah by Arturo Perez Reverte, a spanish writer

>>213096213
Bingo. And Polanski is definitely a satanist lol. We're talking about the man that made Rosemary's Baby. He's 91 and doesn't look a day over 70. The whole Sharon Tate thing was an MK Ultra opp that he was complicit in. For what it's worth I love the movie too. Check out Ghost Writer if you haven't. Nothing occult but the vibes are similar.

>>213097779
I watched Ghost Writer years ago specifically because I asked this board for movies like the Ninth Gate lol. It may even have been you that recommended it if you were around back then.

Rosemary's baby is another straight up Satanic movie but it's a lot more pure horror. Ninth Gate is really an oddity for the whole vibe it has.

>>213095917
No it is not. The end is worse than the film.

>>213097877
I may have but that was only because someone in a Ninth Gate thread recommended it to me first. I put off watching it for years because the plot synopsis makes it sound really bland but there's a lot going on in that movie. I should have trusted Polanski given that he literally sold his soul to be good at making movies.

The score especially but the sound design in general deserve a lot of praise. Every scene where people are handling books is so pleasing to the ear.

>>213095917
FPBP but we must acknowledge Frank Langella was in it and did a great job

>>213098058
>no Name of the Rose

>>213096213
>>213097779
christcucks shitting up 9th Gate thread as usual

>>213098058
why Hellraiser Inferno? I don't remember that one.
TD season 1 should be on there.

>>213098273
I'm not actually Christian. I just think Polanski was very, very deep into the occult. Maybe he didn't literally call himself a Satanist but it's clearly that ballpark

>>213098436
there's a huge gap between "satanism", the occult, and being a rich hollywood pedo who gets away with rape and child rape
you start lumping everyone into the same category just cause they're into weird shit and you turn into a christ fag with blinders on

Need.

>>213096044
dum'ass

>>213098273
Are you denying the existence of satanists lol? I'm not religious either. I think satanism is silly but that doesn't mean there aren't people that are into that nonsense.

the more times i watch this movie the worse i feel for balkan. im rooting for him

>>213097779
but isn't Rosemary's Baby an anti-satanist film? how does that add up?
>>213098436
while I don't agree with fedora tipping retards, this guy >>213098505 is right, by 70s LA standards Polanski was nothing special (except looking like a mouse and riding around in a british sports car)

>>213098505
Satanism is one of the most popular branches of the occult. The real occult is almost entirely about summoning demons and lucifer/satan(opinions vary as to whether these are really the same entity) is by far the most well known demon.

Polanski is very obviously acquainted with Satanism.

>>213098632
satanism exists but there are many branches just like everything else. levay satanist, order of 9 angels satanist, actual devil worshping satanist, etc.
It's when people start getting into the black and white areas of "this is unfamiliar or looks creepy therefore it is satanic and bad" that is dangerous and retarded territory
>>213098684
>Satanism is one of the most popular branches of the occult.
it is not. especially depending on your definition of "satanism"
>The real occult is almost entirely about summoning demons and lucifer/satan(opinions vary as to whether these are really the same entity) is by far the most well known demon.
It is not. At all. "Real occult" is about transcending the suffering and pointlessness of human existence in order to find meaning while living on earth as a human. It has little to nothing to do with summoning demons, satan worship, or any sort of worship in general. It's usually individual and private exercises.

>>213098849
I'm not trying to be a dick but I just don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. "Transcending the suffering and pointlessness of human existence" is just every major religion ever. The occult has been hidden since Christianity took over but most Pagan practices and much of things like Hinduism and shamanism are the same general thing.

They all involve communing with "spirits', "entities", "gods", "demons" etc. These practices range from simple meditation to reach them to rituals involving blood sacrifices to achieve specific goals.

I have personally spoken to dozens of occultists who summon demons, I'm not just making this up. They write books about it. Look at the infamous Grimoires

>>213096703
very kino room

lucifer a cute

>>213099044
i want to caress those tomes

>>213099071
>>213098560
she looks like a huge squirrel

>>213096703
is this the guy who wrote like a 20 volume series about pirates?

>>213096703
The Darth Vader helmet ruins it

>>213099043
>"Transcending the suffering and pointlessness of human existence" is just every major religion ever.
Exactly. The "real occult" is just putting every single different religion into practice. "Our method is science. Our aim is religion."

You seem like a nice guy and I appreciate the "i'm not trying to be a dick comment", but this really shows off your naivety:
>I have personally spoken to dozens of occultists who summon demons, I'm not just making this up. They write books about it. Look at the infamous Grimoires

That's literallly "my dad works at Nintendo" energy. Next you're going to tell me that when Crowley preached "sacrificing children" he actually meant ritualistically murdering innocent children.

Occultism isn't about summoning ACTUAL demons and creatures during rituals. The point of the ritual is to "get you into the moment." Like foreplay with your wife. Your end goal is to cum, obviously, but you're going to have better results in the future if you focus on making sure she's having a good time as well. So you "go through the motions" instead of just rushing in and stuffing your dick in and cumming asap.
The fake cosplaying of "summoning demons and angels" just gets people into the zone and helps make the spiritual growth more impactful.

>>213099173
Bro you cannot seriously be saying CROWLEY was not summoning demons. I mean come on lol. I don't think think Crowley necessarily was killing kids because that's certainly pretty rare but sacrifices involving his own blood or semen or killing an animal? That is very common in occultism. Crowley even stated himself that human sacrifice was the most effective form of ritual but he didn't want to do it himself.

I can literally post books and forums of demon summoners if you want

>>213099310
>Crowley even stated himself that human sacrifice was the most effective form of ritual but he didn't want to do it himself.
It was tongue in cheek. Crowley was an asshole with a sense of humor. "Human sacrifice" means cumming during sex magick but not cumming inside the woman. Therefore you aren't procreating, therefore it is "child sacrifice"
Same context when the sex magick involves men only and no women.
>>213099310
>Bro you cannot seriously be saying CROWLEY was not summoning demons.
Crowley tried everything with an open mind. This is where you and I are losing touch. Crowley would do rituals to see what would happen, not necessarily because he was expecting a particular outcome or believed in the ritual itself.
You and I can not believe in Santa Clause, but we can also still exchange gifts on christmas morning. The ritual still happens even though neither of us actually believe in the "god" (santa) we are summoning. But that doesn't mean we don't get the good christmas morning feeling/vibes that was the desired outcome of the christmas gift ritual.
>I can literally post books and forums of demon summoners if you want
Not necessary.

>>213099459
I'm honestly a bit baffled by you. You claim to be an occultist but think demon summoning is just a meme?

Crowley definitely thought it was real. He said that a butcher died because he wrote the name of a demon he was working with on a receipt from the butchers shop. And what about the whole Lam working? Do you know Jack Parsons? He also very clearly believed demons were real.

And why don't you want me to provide evidence of what I'm saying by posting books and forums?

>>213096167
>they got rid of the actual plot of the novel so they got a streamlined movie but a lesser narrative
The book was clunky, with a poor plot ending, and completely different in tone.
The movie literally changed the book’s genre.
>>213096522
>Wait, this shit is based on a book?
Yes, although the book was essentially a different genre.
Arturo Perez-Reverte has written a number of books, at least half a dozen of which have been turned into movie or TV shows.
“Uncovered” starting Kate Beckinsale is based on his novel “The Flanders Panel, which was more faithfully adapted, and also a better book.
“Alatriste” starting Viggo Mortensen, is a different genre, then both, but very good.

Was the Girl Satan or the whore of Babylon or what?

>>213099593
>“Uncovered” starting Kate Beckinsale
>21 years old
mamma mia a movie that doesn't feature a hag!
thank you anon

>>213099543
>Crowley definitely thought it was real. He said that a butcher died because he wrote the name of a demon he was working with on a receipt from the butchers shop.
Never take Crowley at face value. Again, he was a knowledgeable, experienced genius but also an arrogant asshole who liked to fuck with people. He especially liked to fuck with the people who took his writings and teachings 100% serious without any objective criticism.
>Parsons
I'm not sure where you got that Parsons believed in demons. He was a rocket scientist who practiced occultism. Particularly OTO/AA Crowley inspired occultism.
>>213099543
>And why don't you want me to provide evidence of what I'm saying by posting books and forums?
Because it doesn't matter

>>213099593
I've never read The Three Musketeers but after reading The Club Dumas I felt like I had. I was NOT expecting that after seeing 9th Gate and wanting to read "the book"

>>213099543
>And what about the whole Lam working?
I think this is the closest Crowley got to believing in something and losing the ability to objectively break it down. And I don't think that's a bad thing.

>>213095902 (OP)
The judge granted bail allowing a well connected member of the Hollywood elite to flee the country instead of standing trial for anally raping a minor in Jack Nicholson's jacuzzi.

>>213099543
>>213099816
lam's daughter is cute tho

>>213099739
It seems like a slightly faulty epistemic posture to simply declare that when occultists talk about summoning demons, and give every indication they are actually doing so, that it's just some kind of elaborate inside joke.

Pic related is an example of the ritual declaration which a certain sect of Satanists write with their own blood to give themselves to him. They talk about communing directly with him, he speaks in their minds, he causes apparitions and hallucinations, he orchestrates their lives for them by seeing random chance, all according to them of course.

>>213099875
What meaning does an Instagram screenshot have?
I can go to my bookshelf right now and take photos of Crowley's Book of Lies when he refers to his greatest self as Perdurabo and the Eye of Hoor and then open up LIber 777 and show that Eye of Hoor has the qaballistic equivalent of "butthole"
So he was cleverly calling himself an asshole in one of his most popular books whose entire point was to be "interpreted" because it was full of "secrets"
We keep getting back to my main point which is you need to stop taking everything so literally and at face value.
If Crowley wrote in a book that he flew to Mars and impregnated 900 martians would you believe him? Of course you wouldn't. So why believe that he believed in summoning "demons"

>>213099985
Have you ever done one of these rituals yourself?

>>213099875
>summoning demons, and give every indication they are actually doing so, that it's just some kind of elaborate inside joke.
And again - let me bring back my Christmas morning analogy.
I don't believe in santa.
You don't believe in santa.
But there is a certain feeling that gift giving on christmas morning that no other time throughout the year captures.
So you and I can exchange gifts on christmas morning, both say they are from santa, and feel that christmas warmth and christmas spirit without every actually believing in Santa. without ever actually believing santa provided the gifts.
It's all a ritual and exercise whose goal is a desired outcome that we both achieved without ever actually believing santa is real.

>>213098560
Anyone have the, I dunno, blood baptism webm?

>>213100034
I routinely do the lesser and great banishing pentagram rituals. They're almost a "daily prayer" at this point.
I've never completed the Abramelin ritual. It's always a work in progress.

>>213100149
Well let me give you some advice. Never actually summon a demon. You seem to be very naive about what occultism is, which is good. Do not ever actually try to contact some entity. It will fuck your life up in ways you cannot even understand

I know that this whole conversation sounds to you like I'm just trying to appear knowledgeable but I swear to you that's not what I'm doing. Do not ever try to commune with "spirits"

>>213100268
>You seem to be very naive about what occultism is, which is good. Do not ever actually try to contact some entity. It will fuck your life up in ways you cannot even understand
Well now I have to find an entity summoning ritual and perform it tonight just because you told me not to.
Wish me luck.

>>213100428
You will spend years being unable to sleep, having weird health problems you can't understand or fix, and psychological disturbances which you only realize later were happening. You will enter a kind of endless nightmare you can't wake up from.

>>213098058
for me, it is The Resurrected (1991)

>>213100549
*fart noises*

>>213096044
>please Ma'am, no meat touching

>>213098058
>no "Devil Rides Out"
>no "Se7en"
>no "Cigarette Burns", basically the cinema version of Ninth Gate
>no "Exorcist III" which basically inspired Fallen
>using "Curse of the Demon" and a shitty poster for "Night of the Demon"
>no "Altered States"
>no "Jacob's Ladder"
you have a lot to learn

>>213100549
>>213100268
is that the gate where all those trannies, communists etc are spilling onto Earth from?
>mfw pondering if the printing press was a marketing tool for the occult or the occult was a marketing tool for the printing press

>>213096076
it's the ninth gate, not the nine gates

Inspired me to finally watch it; very comfy

>>213099873
I've read it. It wasn't surprising that he filmed Sharon Tate being gangraped.

>>213098058
>no "a dark song"

I was wondering what's up with both of these movies coming out in 1999 and I then I remembered what that decade leading up to it was all about: The X-Files. On the face of it, since neither movie has anything to do with aliens or government you would think 'eh, nah' - but the theme is conspiracy. Shadow group, hidden power, and in the Ninth Gate case, 'bringing something about', too. There's a thread from that 'end of the millennium' 'something's going to happen but we have no idea what' tension, through the X-files, to Ninth Gate.
Of course these two movies are from books and probably long considered by their creators, but there's a question of which project gets picked, both by polanski/kubrick out of their ideas, and by the people financing, 'green lighting' etc. The 90s had a 'conspiracy' mood, entirely due to X-Files, and so I think without it these movies would not have happened, or not in 1999.
See also the 2000 game deus ex (aka 'the conspiracy') for another example and maybe 'the holy blood and the holy grail' as another influence, certainly on that game, it's where the French angle with the old Chateau concept comes into it. But you also see that kind of location in these movies

>>213098058
I watched Ghost Writer tonight, and while not as good as the Ninth Gate, I enjoyed it.
The house on the beach where the first half of the movie takes place seemed exactly like the first level in Hitman 2 (2018). Turns out it is.

>>213098058
Fallen sucks, the actual three movies with a similar vibe are Angel Fart, Name of the Rosebud, and Sexorcist 3.

>>213102404
if you go back further, the entire thing got kicked off in 1987 by Angel Wings... being an almost 2 decades long hiatus beforehand

also there was a resurrection of interest in JFK conspiracy theories at the end of the 1980s (see Slacker from 1990s which captures the zeitgeist)... I'm highlighting just two cases from 1992:
>In JFK: The Last Dissenting Witness, a 1992 biography of Jean Hill, Bill Sloan wrote that Warren Commission assistant counsel Arlen Specter attempted to humiliate, discredit, and intimidate Hill into changing her story. Hill also told Sloan that she was abused by Secret Service agents, harassed by the FBI, and received death threats.
>Documents under Section 5 of the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 were required to be released within 25 years of October 26, 1992.

I'm not saying it inspired the X-Files, rather that they had a common origin.

>>213102430
Frantic is good too
>you don't need Dedé

>>213102567
you mean Angel Heart right? I need to watch that

>>213095917
Never seen such a FPBP. Although I like the movie very much, the book holds a special place in my heart

>>213102638
yes, sorry, was thinking about kfc
the new bluray transfer looks incredible, makes all the ones beforehand look like utter slop

>>213095902 (OP)
so uh, why didnt a single character wear gloves to handle rare antique priceless books? i get that the mc didnt care about books, just money. but everyone else cares about the books. but they just smoke it up and handle the books with bare hands

>>213102778
smoking bad but the natural oil and moisture in your hands actually helps the books conserve themselves
only brutes like auctioneers or those who scan them need to wear gloves

I like this movie but really feel like it should be better
I really don't think it has half the atmosphere that it deserves

>>213099459
>Defending Crowley this hard
Found the faggot ocultist

>>213102638
>you mean Angel Heart right? I need to watch that
Angel Heart was also based on a book, in this case, “Fallening Angel” by William Hjortsberg, originally published in 1978, and set in New York City, rather than New Orleans.
The book was good, as was “Nevermore”, another Hjortsberg book, which sort of reminds me of “The Raven” from 2012, starring John Cusack.
Both books are in the same vein as The Ninth Gate.

>>213098058
how the fuck do you miss rosemary's baby on that list when it's basically a spiritual prequel to the ninth gate

>>213102829
>smoking bad but the natural oil and moisture in your hands actually helps the books conserve themselves
>only brutes like auctioneers or those who scan them need to wear gloves
The natural oils in one’s hands are not good for books, other than maybe leather covers, but even that is questionable.
The reason bare hands are now suggested, is that people wearing gloves, particularly gloves that don’t fit well, tend to be clumsy and are more likely yo damage the old books.
Also, older rag paper is incredibly durable, even the lower quality stuff, especially compared to a lot of “modern paper”.
Simply having people wash their hands with an alkaline soap, and properly drying their hands, tends to mitigate issues.

>>213103078
you are talking out of your ass

>>213103010
>and set in New York City
is it good? did you read it? 80% of the charm, for me, of Angel Heart is that most of it is set in the deep south

>>213103213
>you are talking out of your ass
Literally watch any video from museum curators, such as the youtube V&A channel.
Admittedly, the older system was to make people wear gloves.
The newer system, is to have people handling items was and dry their hands with the right type of soap.
This is for books.
Other material handling preferences vary.
Metal handling seems to routinely involve gloves made from nitrile, but not always.
As for paper, it was Dard Hunter, one of the World’s foremost paper experts who commented about the durability of older rag paper.

>>213103237
>is it good? did you read it? 80% of the charm, for me, of Angel Heart is that most of it is set in the deep south
Both Falling Angel, and Nevermore are good.
Both sort of read like older pulp crime novels mixed with Rosemary’s Baby.
I haven’t read the sequel to Falling Angel, or Hjortsberg’s other books yet.

>>213103316
>wall of text
>starts with "watch youtube man! that's where the real knowledge is!"
stop sharting please

>>213103357
thanks, I got his books when I was transfixed by how incredible that film was, but never read them
>>213098058
>no possession

but if any of you good folks really want to see possessed people, watch the videos in this channel
will cure you of many delusions, starting with muh equality
https://www.youtube.com/@TotallyOutlaw

>>213099071
female dolph lundgren

>>213103402
Here retard!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1bqxpjf/the_reason_why_historians_and_librarian_may/

>>213099161
That's a roman legionary helmet,I don't see the Darth Vader one

S E X

>>213103524
>reddit
you should have stopped at youtube lol

>>213103743
why didn't you put "Frantic" in "more from Polanski" you nincompoop? at least it's conspiracy themed while Venus in Fur is straight up slop

Why is the Ninth Gate /tv/'s favourite Polanski film? No other Polanski thread gets this much attention, and by all marks, it's kind of third-rate. Still a great film, but by his own standards, very lesser.

>>213102404
Both of these films were very obviously inspired by Rosemary's Baby in 1968. With the common link being Polanski. Nothing to do with the X-Files. Kubrick was a great admirer of Rosemary's Baby and a friend of Polanski, with very observable influences seen in Eyes Wide Shut.

>>213103819
tell us three Polanski movies you like more anon

>>213103943
>Nothing to do with the X-Files.
NTA but he is right, the (unexpected) success of X-Files probably helped them secure funding
nobody will give you money if you go to them and say "hey you know that PORKANSKY movie from fuckin NIGHTEEN SIXTY AIGHT?"

>>213103959
>Chinatown
>Rosemary's Baby
>Repulsion
>Frantic
>The Ghost Writer
>An Officer and a Spy
>The Pianist
>Macbeth
I love all of these movies. He's my favourite director of all time. The Ninth Gate is just a bit too twee for my tastes. I love the occult themes, but it feels like a B-movie adventure romp compared to these movies I've listed.
>>213103980
Kubrick and Polanski were household names by that point. Rosemary's Baby is always mentioned alongside The Exorcist, two classics of Hollywood horror. The Manson murders after the airing of Rosemary's Baby only added to the film and Polanski's notoriety.

>>213104047
>Kubrick and Polanski were household names by that point
yes they made many movies over many years and 1999, not some other time, was when they both chose to or were encourage to implement their 'Spooky Conspiracy' themed ones. Polanski did also return to conspiracy with Ghost Writer but you'll note it's not a Spooky Conspiracy

>>213104047
anon

A.
each x-files episode had a viewership between 12 and 22 million people

B.
Kubrick's last movie was made 12 years ago and had a lifetime gross of $50 million (roughly 20 million tickets sold)...
Polanski's last four movies were flops, including some big ones, his last success being 20 years before

which one would you take to the bank? or do you think all those artsy households with Arthur McFilmface and Lydia Breakfast will be able to raise tens of millions of dollars by themselves?

>>213098058
Cast a Deadly Spell was so fun

>>213104047
>does not understand the clear instruction to say three polanski movies which she would consider better than ninth gate
>gives her milquetoast opinion nobody asked for
stupid cunt

>>213103687
why does this hag pussy look so appealing?

is it because of how... wide? it is? how... voluptuously thick her pelvis looks?
like I'm being invited in... summoned in
summoned by hag pussy

>>213103726
How about The Library of Congress?
https://ask.loc.gov/rare-books-special-collections/faq/305906
The UK National Trust.
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/our-cause/history-heritage/wearing-gloves-damage-rare-old-books
The Smithsonian.
https://blog.library.si.edu/blog/2019/11/21/no-love-for-white-gloves-or-the-cotton-menace/

>>213104629
>blog
>blog
>blog

>>213095902 (OP)
didn't like that he was shown to be "skitty" or nervous most of the movie (in the end he overcomes this when going ape against he blond black guy) but when he finds he friend/compadre hanging down being dead he doesn't even flinch like he is the calmest mofo in existence

>>213104652
you got schooled

>>213104077
>>213104481
I understand both your perspectives now. I just wanted to highlight the very apparent inspiration Eyes Wide Shut had from Rosemary's Baby. Every time I watch either, I compare the two in my head. You're right that the scripts picked up are often in correlation with the events of the day.
>>213104520
Why do you think I'm a foid? I just thought that only three movies weren't enough, because I enjoy all of those movies listed more than the Ninth Gate. I'll give three a shot, RB and Chinatown are the obvious ones, so I will try to be unorthodox.
>Macbeth
>Frantic
>An Officer and a Spy

>>213104688
>when you are a negro, reading three blogs, watching a youtube video, and reading a reddit discussion is "schooling"
no wonder you are so easily manipulated into voting against your interests

>>213104807
Would you poo-poo an esteemed encyclopedia as well? NTA but what's wrong with articles from the Smithsonian or UK National Trust?

>>213104733
>Why do you think I'm a foid?
because
>I just thought that only three movies weren't enough

anyway, I thought you just listed all his movies
apart from Frantic, Rosemary's Baby, and Ninth Gate, I frankly consider the rest unwatchable (and from those three I only have Ninth Gate in my collection)
so it's kinda absurd

>>213104826
those were blog articles, not scientific articles
>Would you poo-poo an esteemed encyclopedia as well?
just to indulge you, I'll reply YES: encyclopedias are midwit takes from an era I'd rather forget (Enlightenment)

>>213096147
Openings like that are to transition you from IRL into the right mood for the film.

Like you might have just been fighting an old lady for a parking space outside the kinoplex, or sat through ten obnoxiously loud previews and cinema ads.

I never mind a good opening because I know what's it's for and when it does it's job. You didn't notice, but your brain did.

>>213095902 (OP)
>perfect casting
>great characters
>great performances
>great direction
>kino aesthetic
>great sound
>great source material
>bookfag was right, those gravings are fantastic
>good little book mystery/puzzle
>great unexpected le twist with Balkan
>restraint and subtlety
I know you might scoff at that last one, but you didn't see the green eyes change did you faggot? That's because you're used to the movie itself pointing shit like that out in case you miss it, but this one will just let you miss it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRruK3wbtlA

>>213104844
Wow, Chinatown & Macbeth unwatchable? That surprises me. Polanski's Macbeth was so influential for every continual adaptation of the Shakespeare play, with its influence even leaking into theatre productions. It has such gorgeous medieval costume design, and beautiful displays of lighting. The ending fight is the best sword-fight in cinema I've seen.

>>213104932
>perfect casting
Johnny Depp is too hammy
the girl has monkeeface syndrome and those eyebrows look atrocious (as they do on 99.9% women who dye their hair)

but I agree on the other points
the intro was nice too no matter what that other anon said

>>213105226
I dunno maybe I've seen too many movies
>no kind words for Chinatown
people were brainwashed by Channel Z (which showed it several times A WEEK) into liking it and it became a meme

>>213105255
>monkeeface syndrome
What nigga?

>>213105396
exactly

>>213095902 (OP)
Polanski just being good at directing regardless of his affinity for molesting underage girls

I know the girl just happened to be the latest chick Polanski was banging or whatever, but she comes across and appropriately weird, bored, older than she appears, etc. It's either great casting despite the yokoism, or one of the luckiest happenstances in film.

>>213105481
Yeah, art from the artist. If Jeffrey fucking Epstein painted the Sistine Chapel I'd still think and admit was cool.

>>213095917
Written by the same guy who wrote the Alatriste books. That shit is 16th century swashbuckling kino of the highest order, such a shame we will never see a good adaptation

>>213095902 (OP)
Everything.

>>213105770
What does she see in the manlet Polack?

>>213105940
Money

>>213106272
Bitter Moon should be mandatory viewing for anyone who wants to post on /tv/

>>213095902 (OP)
The same things as in Silence of the Lambs. HQ hokum.

I love Balkan so fucking much, right down to his unbreakable PIN codes:
https://youtu.be/SLCf_Muq9TU?t=38

>be Corso
>see his PIN code
>steal all his shit
>take Liana up her offer
>I can fix her

>>213103743
>no Frailty

>>213106272
How do I cope with the fact I will never be with such a woman

>>213106537
Pay a professional for the momentary illusion

>>213106361
Kinda arousing scene , but why should people need to watch it to post?

>>213106537
A lot of women arent into being doms and the ones that are usually are taken or mental.

It looks great. I remember watching it and thinking that even random throwaway scenes just looked ric and compelling in some way. The score is great. I think the plot does a good balance of occult and mundane, it makes it intriguing but still grounded. The woman is very sexy, and while her character is obviously stronger, more capable, better informed than Corso she's not a horrible bitch and she doesn't overshadow him as the main character, which is something screenwriting has completely lost.

>>213103819
because
>johnny depp
>occult
>comfy
>old europe aesthetics

>>213106631
Because I want them to

>>213106836
good enough reason as any I guess

>>213095902 (OP)
This movie was ruined for me by one fumbled scene where you can see a string pull the lectern over. Absolutely amateurish

>>213098058
why is Bible Black not on here?

>>213102638
nta but its one of the most underrated films i've ever seen

>>213108732
Excellent taste, good sir

>>213095902 (OP)
This and Angel Heart, absolute kino.

Bump for good rec.

>>213095902 (OP)
this movie is what losing your virginity feels like.

>>213105255
>Johnny Depp is too hammy
unscrupulous!

>>213104620
Cause she wearing lingerie , its made to be appealing and inviting. Her thighs are smooth and the entire area there are no visible cracks or jagged angles.

>>213103444

>can't unsee it
still would

>>213095917
it's not

>Be Roman Polanski in the 80s
>You have fallen off hard
>Your movies are glib facsimiles of former glories
>Find a noname actress
>Fuck her
>Marry her
>Immediately cast her in lead female role in every movie you make
>Every single movie with her is absolutely ultimate kino which saves and elevates your career to godlike status since she happens to be the most demonic beauty ever put to film

How did he do it

>>213099071
>Lucifer
Lucifer is Depp, she's just some demon

>>213108893
Rewatched Angel Heart recently, it's good but nowhere near Ninth Gate level. The director loved to make movies about dismal wet enviroments where mold seeps off walls, it was literally his fetish. Angel Heart is a really good noir movie.

>>213095902 (OP)
Is that Charls Carrol from Million Dollar Extreme?

not enough old book fiddling

>>213111554
Something really should be done about the infestation of you faggots from whatever discord you congregate on. The exact same crew of insufferable zoomers on kiwifarms and here.

>>213095902 (OP)
>What went right?
Great atmosphere and does "the banality of evil" right

>>213111439
It do be like that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33WnMGhKJI

>>213111696
Bitter Moon > Frantic > Ninth Gate in terms of her roles
Ninth Gate is a better movie than Frantic though

>>213095902 (OP)
This meme has got to die. Decent film, nothing special. Polanski-sama's got many films which are way better.

>>213111468
>Lucifer is Depp, she's just some demon
QRD?

>>213112101
He's the devil being guided back into hell, that's the gist of it. For some reason he has amnesia. He's even styled like the devil.

Red Rooms has a really nice Ninth Gate feel to it.

>>213098058
>>213103743
The Body is really underrated out of those.
I do miss a good old religious kinos though, lately we got Nefarious, which is probably as good as it gonna get in current times and Late Night With The Devil was fun if shlocky, but still.

>>213097779
Ahh sweet a schizo thread

>>213095902 (OP)
Lena Olin.

>>213095902 (OP)
i don't know why the fuck are you always asking me questions

>>213112169
Does this thesis got any arguments backing it

>>213098058
day of the beast (1995) is very similar in theme and vibes to the ninth gate

>>213099071
is she Lilith

How come there's no Lovecraft kino about people trying to get their hands on a Necronomicon or something and then getting fucked up when they accidentally summon something they can't handle

>>213099173
>Occultism isn't about summoning ACTUAL demons and creatures during rituals.
oh yes it is, you're just more familiar with cosplayers than actual Occultists.

>>213113457
Does this count?

>>213111591
I wish I had the first idea what you are talking about.

>>213113528
BENEATH THE VERY STONE OF BRENNENBURG

Very good movie until the sex scene which feels really out of place.

If they had sex in a hotel earlier it would've felt more fitting.

>>213098058
>no Prince of Darkness

Incredible tits and ass thoughbeit

>>213113457
The Thing

>>213113890
Don't just name random horror movies with Lovecraft connections when they don't fit what was requested at all

>>213103357
>I haven’t read the sequel to Falling Angel
Don't. It's absolute dogshit. Whatever skill or talent or good ideas Hjortsberg had when he wrote Falling Angel, he had lost all of them when he came around to writing the sequel decades later.

>>213113949
Just imagine the alien craft was the book and the alien is a curse you fucking retard

>>213114419
>you're a fucking retard because I don't have reading comprehension
Everyone's seen The Thing. You are not special for knowing about The Thing. Repent of your sins by watching Polanski's Pirates, this shall be your penance.

>>213104047
>Chinatown
snoozefest
>The Pianist
jewish drivel

>>213114442
He has an even worse movie than that, some Italian coproduction

Seigner and Lena Olin helped. It’s funny how Polanski and Wiseman let Depp and Pharrell to “cuck” their wives in their movies.

>Here, sir, the book you requested. It's 500 years old and only one copy of it remains...
>Thank you.
>*lights cigarette and dumps ashes in the book while flipping through it*

It's just so damn comfy.

I feel like every time I watch it I want to start collecting old books and chill in a old style library

>>213095902 (OP)
Dark academia + occult adventure kino without gayshit

>>213102404
I agree to this, but I must say without Twin Peaks there would be no X-Files.

>>213113457
Not quite what you are asking for, but In the Mouth of Madness (1994) is comfy lovecraft kino.

The way things are going I doubt we would ever get proper Lovecraft kino outside of indie stuff. We need to go back to analog and stopmotion.

>>213115079
Me every time I watch it I want to start fucking an sexy evil babe and chill in front of a burning old style library

>>213105940
>>213106034
He's a charismatic genius artist and in the running for the greatest director of all time?

>>213114909
yeah

>>213114909
What's it gonna do, clap back?

>>213114909
fuck yeah

>>213098058
frantic is more like ninth gate than venus in fur which is just a fetish film

>>213099115
I just want you to know that I support you. Happy pride month.

>>213115662
>venus in fur which is just a fetish film
It is not JUST a fetish film.

>>213115651
nothing comes close to being as visually kino as smoking a cigarette in good lighting

>>213103237
i have the opposite feeling, i like the first 40 mins set in new york, the aesthetic and feeling is great, coney island, the diner, the docs place upstate. i cant stand the rest set in the south, new orleans/louisiana doesnt interest me in general, and i watch the last 10 minutes cos the ending is great where they tie it all up

>>213115845
True. I used to smoke and one of the main things I miss is that aesthetic. Even when it was just me chilling I felt like a badass.

>>213115651
>>213115845
its not just the visuals but the audio in the ninth gate is fantastic
the flip of every page of paper, the clank of the cigarette lighter, the thud of every footstep
its wonderful to listen too.
this movie is the reason i purchased the following, its not old but it is beautiful and a fascinating read

>>213116377
Good comment.

>>213116377
what's good about it? curious

>>213106766
who do you think you are, coming to a place like this, and talking sense?

>>213117080
its like a crash course in western esotericism, its not a guide mind you but if you were trying to do a ritual and you want to make a substitution you could pick up one of the three books and find the information you need.
it has all types of nifty info and it is loaded with sources

>>213117232
interesting; thanks anon

>>213111591
they are probably UK faggots
>Millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror (WE ARE HERE)
>and were suddenly silenced
4chin & al. are getting banned over there by the guv'ment so this is their final flailing

>>213111870
>Ninth Gate is a better movie than Frantic though
Frantic is ruined by Harrison Ford trying to play Robert Redford
Harrison Ford has ruined lots of movies

>>213117412
No he was great. Frantic just has weird pacing and is kinda boring to watch until Emanuelle shows up halfway through the movie. Bit too procedural, probably a remnant of Polanski's shit era that preceded it.

>>213098058
add legion somewhere

>>213116889
>comment

>>213095902 (OP)
Made by a pedophile

>>213117899
So was your post.

>>213117957
Truth doesn't work like that anon

>>213095902 (OP)
Is that Charls Carroll ?

>>213117899
>namefag
>obnoxious passive-agressive comment on current thing "trump bad"
kys tranny

this thread outlived the Eyes Wide Shut one
Polaksi - Kubrick 1-0

>>213118422
To be fair Polanski has the better take on the "elite" in the ninth gate. He calls them out as being pretenders and not genuine seekers.
Old idiots and their mumbo jumbo

>>213118342
What ?

>>213118841
but eyes wide shut called out the bourgeoisie, not the elites... the elites did nothing wrong, it was all in the mind of Tom Cruise (much like The Game, but played straight)

>>213119005
>the elites did nothing wrong
throwing big orgies is fucking dumb and they do it in both films
regardless the real rewards are for a man like corso and it is not material/money

If you want more of a similar atmosphere you should unironically play Gabriel Knight 3, the graphics are kinda ass, like that early 3d from the late 90s, but the story is heavily steeped in occultism and esoterism

>>213119079
>fucking dumb
yeah, I think that's the idea /jk
>regardless the real rewards are for a man like corso and it is not material/money
aristotle said that the golden path is the middle one
we just need to get rid of smartphones, cellphones, jeets touching the internet, and women's rights
that would be a good beginning if we want nature to heal

>>213119218
What about Gabriel Knight 1 and 2? Do I need them to understand 3? That screenshot reminds me of the Broken Sword series which was kinda cool

>>213119218
Gabriel Knight 3 is a Dan Brown story before Dan Brown was a thing.

>>213119359
>we just need to get rid of smartphones, cellphones, jeets touching the internet, and women's rights
they hated anon because he spoke the truth

this is not my writing but for those who have eyes to see, you will enjoy it
https://medium.com/@nyxshadowhawk/an-exhaustive-analysis-of-the-ninth-gate-7a6c1023460e