Blade Runner wasn't supposed to be a documentary.

>>213107821 (OP)
Why are amerimutt israeli-zogbots so scared of nuclear?

>my way of boiling water > your way of boiling water

>>213107849
After Chernobyl leftists threw a hissy fit and forced everyone to cut funding. Thankfully they haven't destroyed the fossil fuel industry yet but that's their next big target and won't stop until we are poor and thus then easy to conquer and control.

>>213107890
>leftists “think” nuclear power is dangerous because a bunch of retarded communists fucked up a safety tests
These are the people running the world rn btw

my dad lives in a gated retirement community of boomers and every house in it has solar panels on the roof, they're such an ugly eyesore

>>213107849
Boomers were subjected to decades of anti-nuclear libtard propaganda, and we're still under their rule

>>213107821 (OP)
What process requires so much heat? It must be a million degrees at the top of the towers.

>>213107849
the main argument is how nothing can be done with the waste. ya know because they banned waste recycling/enrichment because it could produce weapons grade plutonium.

>>213107821 (OP)
since when?

>>213107993
yeah but they get their hot water and electricity for free so i'd say it's worth it

>>213107993
>>213107922
>>213107890
>>213107887
Geothermal is the future.
They're using fusion lasers to dig deep in the earth which will provide unlimited energy.

>>213108049
actually most of them are making money off of them according to him, they're able to sell excess energy back to the power company
it's a pittance overall, like ten bucks a month for him in summer time during peak uv but still

>>213107821 (OP)
>Blade Runner wasn't supposed to be a documentary.
>AI holographic girlfriends when?

>>213108090
But how are they going to power the fusion lasers

>>213107890
The mental gymnastics of magacels continues to astound me

>>213107849
>Third-Worlder going a single post without mentioning "Israel" Challenge: IMPOSSIBLE DIFFICULTY

>>213108090
Your hubris will be the death of us all

>>213108157
Point to where he said something that didn't make sense. Be specific.

>>213107849
nuclear == energy independence == no excuse to interfere in the middle east for the jews because of 'oil'

>>213108179
wasn't this the movie the guy got free cell phone service by blowing in to a gum wrapper?

>>213108090
>unlimited energy
That's not how physics work.

>>213107849
Nuclear is too easy, if people have cheap and reliable power they get too comfortable and won't want to work in literal slave labor jobs

>>213107849
We cant dump our run off into south America anymore

>>213108300
tell me you've never had a real job without telling me you've ever had a real job

>>213108372
brownoid detected

>>213108389
you say that like it's a bad thing, even the most simple minded child knows play is more noble than work

>>213107821 (OP)
>Blade Runner wasn't supposed to be a documentary.
Yes it was

>>213107821 (OP)
These things failed though.

>>213107849
>>213107890
There's also a fair bit of misanthropy behind some of the earliest anti-nuclear proponents. Groups like the Sierra Club that opposed nuclear power early on did so because they were afraid that the theoretically limitless energy provided by nuclear would lead to a human population explosion. Malthusianism was very popular among the intelligentsia, as evidenced by things like the Georgia Guidestones. Additionally, the timidity and stupidity of our elected officials made things worse. The death knell for American nuclear power was Three Mile Island, about a few years before Chernobyl. The meltdown was nothing. The amount of radiation released was less than the radiation emitted by the average house over a period of a year.
The problem was that the officials at the federal, state, and local levels failed to coordinate and failed to assuage public fears. Even worse, President Carter, himself a former nuclear specialist in the Navy, was so utterly beholden to party interests that he refused to assure the public that Three Mile Island was, to paraphrase from his own comments, "barely an incident". Hollywood also helped to fuel nuclear paranoia with movies like "China Syndrome" about meltdowns threatening all life on Earth. The general public, unable and unwilling to separate fiction from reality, bought movies like the above hook, line, and sinker. Many people still think that a nuclear reactor can detonate like an atom bomb, something that is impossible. If a reactor explodes, it does so because of pressure buildup in the chamber, as is what happened with the RBMK reactor no. 4 at the Lenin Power Station.
Chernobyl is another can of worms entirely. Combine the incompetence and secrecy of the Soviet Union led to a disaster that could have been easily avoided if, as communism is theoretically supposed to encourage, there was criticism of the systems in place.

>>213107849
I don't understand the question? Why would ZOG be scared of nuclear?

>>213108489
>the birds...got fried?

>>213107890
*Chornobyl

>>213107821 (OP)
This is just like fallout new Vegas

>>213107821 (OP)
>use actual aerial footage of some farms
Daaamn the future must be dystopian

>>213108227
It's one of the best movies that's clearly intentionally stupid but tries just hard enough that some people will think it's being serious.

>>213108498
>The amount of radiation released was less than the radiation emitted by the average house over a period of a year.

phrasing it this way just makes you seem disingenuous, as everyone knows dangerous radiation exposure is scalar, rather than over time.

and yeah, a meltdown hitting the water table would mean irradiated material in the water cycle, and Chernobyl is still "melting down."

>>213108197
Maga (politicans) are generally opposed to nuclear by cutting subsidies for its construction and instead fund coal, which is the most inefficient and outdated fossil fuel for energy. That and the green movement never really gained much traction in america and the closure on new nuclear plants came from the right who wanted to close them in favour of new coal plants.

>>213107849
This is a very stupid comment given that Germany and Japan are considerably far more anti nuclear than the US lol

>>213108645
According to the American Nuclear Society, the "average local radiation exposure was equivalent to a chest X-ray and maximum local exposure equivalent to less than a year's background radiation"
The Committee on the Biological Effects of Ionizing Radiation concluded that "the collective dose equivalent resulting from the radioactivity released in the Three Mile Island accident was so low that the estimated number of excess cancer cases to be expected, if any were to occur, would be negligible and undetectable."
Radiation exposure is measured over time, distance, and shielding. That's how sieverts are measured. On top of that, the linear no-threshold model is disputed. The French Académie des sciences and Académie nationale de médecine found in 2005 that a threshold dose response, stating that "this report raises doubts on the validity of using LNT for evaluating the carcinogenic risk of low doses (< 100 mSv) and even more for very low doses (< 10 mSv). The LNT concept can be a useful pragmatic tool for assessing rules in radioprotection for doses above 10 mSv; however since it is not based on biological concepts of our current knowledge, it should not be used without precaution for assessing by extrapolation the risks associated with low and even more so, with very low doses (< 10 mSv), especially for benefit-risk assessments imposed on radiologists by the European directive 97-43." The Health Physics Society "advises against estimating health risks to people from exposures to ionizing radiation that are near or less than natural background levels because statistical uncertainties at these low levels are great.". In 2012, the UNSCEAR concluded that "The Scientific Committee does not recommend multiplying very low doses by large numbers of individuals to estimate numbers of radiation-induced health effects within a population exposed to incremental doses at levels equivalent to or lower than natural background levels."

>>213107890
>After Chernobyl
Chornobyl, not Chernobyl. It's a Ukrainian place.
>leftists threw a hissy fit
France is as left as it gets, and they love nuclear, so you're wrong.

>>213108044
Fast reactors have existed for a while now. Waste is virtually non-existent.
Solar panels produce far more toxic waste

>>213109950
Look at germany, it's literally leftists against nuclear. Their green party destroyed it.
inb4 green party are far right LOL

>>213108724
Well Japan is understandable
Germany are very cucked by Israel and globohomo

>>213109970
>Look at germany, it's literally leftists against nuclear.
Germany's leftists (Die Linke) are former commies from the GDR, lol, and their Green Party (Die Grüne) was literally sponsored by Putin and Gazprom, lol.

>>213107890
Chernobyl was just the confirmation after some stupid movie about fictional nuclear meltdown happened: The China Syndrome. That movie came out and then nothingburger at 3 Mile Island happened, boomers freaked out hard.

>>213109970
Does the green party understand the sheer amount of toxic waste that solar panels create during production

>>213109959
>Waste is virtually non-existent.
so there is waste.

ITT: I FUCKING LOVE BASEDENCE

fucking redditors

>>213109365
Just pointing out that describing radiation exposure in a clearly bullshit manner defeats your own assertion. no need to post even more bullshit in response.

>>213108044
Just launch it into space?

>>213110049
but i thought predictive programming was supposed to soften the blow??

>>213108036
Those kinds of solar towers work by focusing all that light to boil water, or superhead CO2, or sometimes even sodium.
This gets hot and spins a turbine, generating power as opposed to the solar panels most people are used to which generate electricity by light from the sun exciting photons through a conductive barrier.

>>213108036
Boiling a fuckload of water because you can't beat steam when it comes to driving a turbine. I hear they use something like molten salt to keep up the temperature throughout the night cycle.

>>213110155
nuclear waste is very heavy

>>213110137
>fuck science I want to live in the stone age
why are you using computers then

>>213110073
There is waste associated with production of all energy

>>213107849
germany is far more anti nuclear. But this is the internet and the esl npcs believe what the media tells them.

>>213110049
China Syndrome was only partly fictional, but based on various near-miss accidents.
Fun fact, all nuclear accidents have been the cause of human error. Usually by someone trying as hard as they can to override the systems in-built safety measures.

>>213110155
here's all your nuclear waste bro

>>213108036
An engine requires fuel. The best types of fuel make little to no waste. This fuel is water superheated to steam. The best fuel is antimatter because it creates no waste just 100% energy release

>>213109983
>anti-nuclear: :/
>anti-nuclear, Japan: :0

>>213108090
who is "they"

>>213110256
Wasn't 3/11 caused by a massive Earthquake and Tsunami not human error?

>>213110248
>le reddit straw man
Dumbass

>>213110300
the human error was not anticipating a massive earthquake and tsunami at the same time. as earthquakes cause tsunamis.

>>213110308
it's literally not tho

>>213110300
Nope. The backup power and cooling systems had not been properly maintained.
A tsunami went over the sea-wall and the system automatically shut down, but the backup cooling pumps didn't come on.

>>213110300
The human error was building a nuclear plant where a tsunami could fuck it up. I'm still legitimately suprised Japan of all places thought putting a reactor there was a good idea.

You can build half a dozen coal plants for the cost of one nuclear plant. The fuel is cheap and plentiful. Emissions can be scrubbed down to very low levels. Those plants will come online years before a nuclear plant will, too. Why aren't we doing this?

>>213110387
I'm not. Japs are fucking retarded.

>>213107821 (OP)
I just safe and clean nuclear energy for my country, bros

>>213110387
You need ample water to cool any large thermal power station unless you're South Africa and use air, which works but drives the cost up because it's a less efficient heat exchange method.

>>213110300
it was earthquake and typhoon

>>213108098
I work in microgrids and I’m noticing that with the new flexible tariff plans where they adjust your rates dynamically over the day, the price often goes down to near 0 at times of peak solar production, sometimes even below 0 (you get paid to use power - this is a way to regulate the network when there is an excédent of production).

So if you’re on-grid and wanted to make money to pay off your panels you would need expensive battery systems to store your production during the day and start selling around 18-20

>>213110137
It's true though. I think science is pretty cool and interesting.

>>213108049
>pay 30 grand up front
>but my hot water is free!

People are really this dumb

>>213110300
Nope. Go read the analysis of it.
The facility was not properly maintained and safety systems failed. When those failed the meltdown happened.

>>213110461
where was it that bragged about the power grid being completely supplied by renewables for a day and a day or two later had rolling blackouts?

>>213110461
Home solar is a money loser for most people

>>213110527
>The facility was not properly maintained and safety systems failed. When those failed the meltdown happened.
What would have happened if it was a fossil fuel plant? It would have been knocked offline for a little while but nothing else.

>>213110544
Spain/Portugal? I’ve heard whispers that might be what caused it but nothing conclusive, it’s true that renewables are unstable which is bad for a power grid so you need some heavy spinning anchor resources to stabilise your frequency - they say that for every solar/wind farm you need to build a gas power plant

>>213107821 (OP)
>aaargghh nooo you must burns coal and oil vargghhghghhhct this is the the wetfalenn save me donald trump!

>>213108090
Harvesting the core is suicide

Why do thirdies love nuclear power so much?

>>213107849
America has the most nuclear reactors in the world. But you have a point in some sense that they should be leading nuclear by even more. Construction of new reactors stagnated for decades. For what it's worth, however, interest in expanding nuclear power seems like its gaining steam. Supposedly a bunch of big tech companies want to switch their giant server farms over to small modular reactors.

>>213110602
>fossil fuel
No such thing.
https://youtu.be/zSff0pwc1Xc
>>213108033
This and WMD fear mongering.

>>213110607
>spain/portugal
seems right, and the other issue with renewables is they can't scale in response to increased demand

>>213107821 (OP)
i think these were already shut down for being complete failures. im sure it was a scam since its first inception though, just gifting the "green energy" meme

>>213110693
Luke 8:17 KJV
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

>>213110702
grifting*

>>213110581
Depends on where you live I suspect. My uncle in San Diego installed solar and it's basically made his electric bill go away. I doubt I'd get such good results up here in Michigan.

>>213110722

>>213110702
they're clearly not active in the sequence. blade runner is also set after a global nuclear war, which really isn't touched upon in the movies.

>>213107821 (OP)
The power of HELIOS One, all in the palm of my hand.

>>213110807
https://youtu.be/j5FnSOSaxJI

>>213110745
With the way California is legislating (massive subsidising for renewables, EVERY new industrial building over a certain size required to be covered in panels) you’re going to have overproduction soon which will drive the costs down at peak times for everyone, the good is everyone profits from cheap energy at peak times and the coal plants can stop; the bad is you can’t really sell your production if you installed panels

>>213110693
>>213110722
>>213110750
So why did Japan wait until the hoax to surrender?

>>213110872
solar panels require rare earth elements, whos price will only increase with demand.

>>213110872
>the good is everyone profits from cheap energy at peak times and the coal plants can stop
Coal plants (like nuclear units) can't really stop and start, it takes so long to throttle down and ramp back up that the reduction in output isn't that great. Hydro and gas turbines are the peakers that can be brought online and taken offline quickly. The big thermal stations' economics start to falter when they can't run at 100% capacity.

>>213110887
Don't know, might be some money involved, and the fact that "nukes" weren't used ever since should make you think.

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

>>213110904
Only to a certain threshold, whereupon methods considered too costly now become economically viable and then supply stabilizes. People often misunderstand this sort of thing regarding natural resources. Almost every major resource has various means of extraction and price is dictated simply by the cheapest one currently available.

>>213110993
>methods considered too costly now become economically viable
they're not economically viable now because the costs are higher than possible returns. so you're just describing steadily increasing prices.

>>213110986
>might be some money involved
That's a pretty meager handwave for calling something so big a hoax. Even holocaust deniers have a lot more meat to their claims.

>>213111050
you're talking to a namefag. dunno if you noticed.

>>213110745
He said go away
But he meant refinanced in the form of $30,000 of debt to be paid off monthly

The difference is he now makes payments to the solar panel sellers

>>213110981
I know you don’t want to stop a nuclear plant unless you’re doing maintenance but I was under the impression a coal plant is a lot more flexible, able to stop and wait to be started as emergency in case of a peak of consumption, but maybe that was gas (we don’t really have coal plants here) or maybe what they mean by that is they never actually stop any of them, just keep them at 20-30%

Yeah obviously that fucks with your economics, one of the advantages of having a state owned power company

>>213111036
Only to a certain threshold where the previously more costly method stabilizes supply. Then you might have many decades of rock steady prices. Prices might even lull during that period as people refine the current extraction technology/techniques and it becomes cheaper. And then there's always the possibility of a new development coming along and kicking the price back down.
Point being that you shouldn't just assume prices will linearly rise over time.

>>213110506
It protects you from fluctuations in energy prices. When they skyrocketed in Europe at the start of the Ukraine war there were business that literally became unsustainable because of how reliant they were on gas being cheap.

>>213111176
so supply will stabilize when supply vs demand hits a point where currently prohibitively expensive models are economically viable, and solar panels cost anywhere but 2-20 times as much?

read: i have no idea what other methods you're talking about but I don't think you do either. I'm just putting your claims into clearer language.

>>213107993
wind turbines I get, but solar panels? aren't we being a little over-dramatic?

>muh...worms.

>>213111087
Nah, he was pretty clear that he didn't pay anywhere near that much and the savings more than make up for what he did pay. That said, it's not gonna work out that neatly if you're not in an extremely favorable environment, so don't go installing solar panels in New England and expect to make your money back.

>>213110417
>>213110387
you can argue the decision but ironically, Japan is literally #1 in the world in terms of earthquake/tsunami defensives and alerts, as much as human possible anyway. but then again, cant call it a disaster if there was nothing man related there

>>213111152
The bigger the thermal plant is (in terms of power output), the longer it takes to run-up or ramp down. Power usage (in the US at least) follows a fairly predictable cycle: demand is lowest from about 11pm to 5am, then it spikes as people get up to go to work, falls off after that a little bit, and rises again as people come home in the afternoon, and tapers off as the evening progresses. Weather and other factors can change this curve considerably, and big plants cannot effectively follow the demand. So utilities run them at 100% and start bringing other (usually more expensive) generating units to meet demand. But they keep the big cheap baseload units running at or near their capacity because they'll start hemorrhaging money when run below a certain output threshold.

Gas is quick to come online but is traditionally an expensive way to generate because those units are relatively small peakers that get shut back down the moment demand falls. Hydro is inexpensive and sometimes can be used as baseload, but usually it's a demand following setup.

>Yeah obviously that fucks with your economics, one of the advantages of having a state owned power company
What is?

>>213111190
>When they skyrocketed in Europe at the start of the Ukraine war there were business that literally became unsustainable because of how reliant they were on gas being cheap.
Someone warned them not to get hooked on Russian energy exports and Euros didn't take it seriously

>>213111050
In Eastern Europe the Einsatztruppen alone shot like 1 million of them and then threw them into mass graves. What the fuck is up with revisionist dipshits making up this claim that all 6 million got cremated? Not even the most oy vey soi Jewish historian is going to make that claim.

>>213110506
>>213108049
>>213107993
>>213107821 (OP)

is warm watter even an actual commodity? clean water and electricity sure. but warm water? why wouldnt you just make all those dumb mirrors into solar panels so you could get something actually useful from them?

>>213111412
Yeah well, even the most obvious lessons have to be learned the hard way sometimes.

>>213111385
EDF

>>213111050
Well, forgive me for not being a military insider. Proving the holocaust being a hoax is much easier.

>>213107849
Pretty sure America is one of the most pro-nuclear countries in the world.

Anyway, Chernobyl, The Simpsons, and old sci-fi flicks using "radiation" as the origins of all their mutants.

>>213107821 (OP)
everyone itt is retarded the freest source of energy ever is to just build giant hamster wheels all over africa and make niggers run on them forever

>>213111454

>>213107993
>ewww solar panels are ugly i hate them
>I LOVE SEEING GAS STATIONS

>>213111454
Because they can only win if they lie.

>>213111536
My SUV doesn't run on solar rays

>>213111454
Why do you want this so called "holocaust" to be true? youre fucked up in the head mind you mind wanna see a doctor or something. like, why are you making up this scenario where tons of people die. its really fucking strange. nobody has ever heard of this before either so idk why you're so hellbent on pushing it

>>213108178
Cope, Amerigolem

>>213111536
gas stations are based. what are you afraid of them cus youre not allowed to pump gas in your cunt?

>>213111582

>>213111238
I don't know where you're getting 2-20x prices from. I think you want to assume it would be a backbreaking jump in costs because that explains why it's not already being done now, but when you're dealing with scale, something that's just a couple percent more expensive for mining companies and manufacturers would be considered prohibitively hurtful to their margins, but the consumer barely notices when that finally gets passed on to them, provided it doesn't keep rising.

>>213108227
probably a reference to captain crunch. the really old phone lines and how they worked you actually could get free phone service by blowing into a gum wrapper. captain crunch got his name in the phreaking scene because he used...a whistle from a box of captain crunch candy that made the correct frequency. kinda neat shit, read it up sometime.

>>213111582
not him but its not about that, its a refusal to believe that so many people could be deceived and mainstream education pushes something wrong. when confronted with that its more likely youre a crazy person and wrong in some way and then of course this leads down further rabbit holes but that is generally how normies think.
>WELL if it really was a hoax why wouldnt someone just talk? Everyone would have to be in on it! HAH checkmate!!

>>213111641
>candy
cereal. holy shit im so fucking tired, i keep making really obvious fuck ups

>>213108090
Tell that to mars.

>>213111071
>you're talking to a namefag. dunno if you noticed.
You can just ask me to clarify, no need to be rude.

>>213107849
all oil belongs to america
just a matter of convincing others

>>213111637
>I don't know where you're getting 2-20x prices from

my goto baseline for "this is not economically viable" is desalination of sea water, which despite, according to the internets, costs less than a penny per gallon, is still considered not economically viable in coastal areas because of fresh water sources.

>>213111644
>make dubious claim
>that seems dubious
>you just don't want to believe you were deceived

>>213111580
Get on your bike fatty

>>213112080
That also doesn't run on solar rays

>>213111846
I am not the person you were talking to im sharing my experience of why people dont want to believe the hollyhoax

>>213110506
>30 grand
lmao what? here in yuroland it's like 8 grand for a standard 10 kW system, not to mention that you can get it for like 4 (yes four) grand if you simply apply for EU gibsmedat subsidies

>>213112230
i'm just putting the correct framing on your claim, how conspiracy theorists appear to others.

>>213107849
Reminder certain people started getting bullish on nuclear after coal companies started unleashing propaganda to scare people off renewables.

Nuclear is a gone technology. It can't keep up cost wise, especially if you want safety.

>>213111722
While thats neat it makes the scripture meaningless if it just points to a creepy face made of stars. Its actually a reference to Josephs dream in Genesis starting the war in heaven and affirming dreams are literally real and happen in the stars. Its not a verse about constellations. John who is seeing these events unfold in spirit, is in spirit, what he is seeing is not visible to the naked waking eye.
Genesis 37:9-10 is the dream revelation 12 is referencing

>>213107849
Because the jews have a gigantic nuclear scare campaign. It's all a big sleight of hand to distract from the enormous amount of chemicals killing us.
Nuclear power also solves problems and makes countries energy independent. That's the last thing international judaism wants.

>>213112285
I see, yea you are mostly agreeing with what I explained that when confronted with mainstream sources spouting something wrong its more likely the person you are talking to is just crazy. Its only a 'dubious claim' under the paradigm that you are taught correct objective information and realizing that is not the case is a seperate issue that people pointing out the hoax have already discovered. But like I said, you will just perceive its more likely im just crazy as an excuse to not look into why lies are spread by institutions or anything further related. Which was what I originally said and you are trying to mitigate by claiming anything not taught by curriculum is dubious.

>>213111644
>WELL if it really was a hoax why wouldnt someone just talk? Everyone would have to be in on it! HAH checkmate!!
The arguments that revisionists bring up are generally easy to refute. The reason their theories find purchase is because they firehose a bunch of bullshit until something sticks.

The central issue is that a person that is confronted with a fraud like this should already be wary of the argument that that person is making the first time they got caught in a lie. But that's unfortunately not how low IQ retards think.

Let's say I have a math teacher who teaches me a basic concept in algebra. I go on and try to apply that principle to one of my problems but find out that it doesn't work. Maybe I got it wrong, maybe I didn't understand the principle. So I go back to my teacher and ask them again to explain the principle to me. He explains it again and I go back home and try to solve the problem. It doesn't work. So I, once again, return to the teacher now with the problem written down on a piece of paper and ask them to demonstrate how to apply their principle to it. The teacher tries and fails. It doesn't work. The teacher keeps insisting that his method works. We try it again on a different problem and it still fails. The teacher assures me that his method works, he's just tired and it's been a long day.

Repeat ad nauseam. A person with a normal level of intelligence should eventually go "this retard keeps teaching me shit that doesn't work. Maybe I should just stop giving a shit what he says and not put any stock into his methods." But that's not how the conspiracy brained moron thinks. They think that anything that hasn't been explicitly disproven is a point in the teacher's favor. Yeah, those last 5 methods I tested were bullshit, but what about the other 125256 methods I haven't tried yet? Maybe all of them work!

>>213110887
>So why did Japan wait until the hoax to surrender?
Because he's unironically a well-poisoning shill, here to try and associate things you find here and might agree with, with silly ideas like nukes being fake or the earth being flat.

>>213112376
but anon, what if you are the one spreading lies? why should I trust you over someone else? hell, why should i trust someone else either?

the holocaust never fucking happened. i wish it did, and i hope it happens in the future.

>>213112377
Right but world history and curriculum having skewed views to favor the people funding them isnt the same as a math equation so you are presenting a false equivalence that history can be deduced as a math problem.

>>213112424
Dont, im simply telling you that the people who are telling you what I am have already gone down the path of looking at why curriculums spread false information and you have not done that yet and will not as long as it doesnt suit you. As long as it is convenient you will insist they cant and wont do such a thing and that was what I was telling you and you are still not hearing. But thats really ok I already shared what I had to say and its explicitly clear and beyond that I dont care to convince you of anything.

>>213108417
>play is more noble than work
Not in a sense of how it feels

>>213112483
>and you have not done that yet
why do you keep making up imaginary people and responding to real people as if they are said mental construct?

>>213112476
or it did happen and made the jew problem exponentially worse by killing off the good natured ones

>>213110137
Nothing wrong with enjoying science and beforevyour post the thread wasn't being cringe about it

>>213112396
>with silly ideas like nukes being fake or the earth being flat.
EVERY TIME

Ladies and gentlemen we have the genuine shill.
Every time the american governments lies are brought up some flat earther shows up to poison the well of discussion with disinformation.
America conquered the world and always has a lie to justify its invasions.
It makes no sense for Japan to attack America, none at all. Why risk everything attacking a far greater power you have no chance of victory against?

>>213112621
japan attacked the US because the US cut off their oil supply and refused all contact. Japan only had a few months worth of oil remaining when they attacked.

>>213112699
>Japan only had a few months worth of oil remaining when they attacked.
You just debunked your own point. Starting an unwinnable war when you have no oil?

https://files dot catbox.moe/l3ia3r.pdf
Pearl harbor false flag analysis.

>>213110633
chuds like nuclear

Schizo thread

>>213112782
the choice was between attacking america and being conquered by china.

>>213112483
>Right but world history and curriculum having skewed views to favor the people funding them isnt the same as a math equation so you are presenting a false equivalence that history can be deduced as a math problem.

That's not what the analogy is about. The point is that if someone comes at me with a grande claim, and I ask them for evidence to substantiate the claim, and the very first piece they present to me is already bullshit, and the second piece is even bigger bullshit, then I'm not going to sit there and engage with every single piece of evidence they can show me because the first two pieces already demonstrated that this person doesn't know how to separate a good argument from a bad argument.

Imagine if a defense lawyer operated like this

>"uh, my client didn't do it because on that day he wasn't even in the same city as the victim"
>your client was in the same city. We have CCTV footage and witness testimony
>"uh, okay let's drop that. My client was in the city but he wasn't even in the same city district."
>your client was in the same district. We have CCTV footage and witness testimony
>"uh, okay, let's drop that. My client was in the district but he wasn't even in the same building."
>your client was in the same building...

It's just amateurish. If revisionists want to be taken seriously they can't keep leading with shitty arguments and then pivot every single time one of them is refuted and pretend like that's an own if the other side refuses to engage at some point. Put together the best version of your argument FIRST and then start pestering people about this. I don't give a single fuck about your infograph pastas about the angle of chimney shadows at Ausschwitz. Show me novel testable predictions based on witness testimonies or something. You can miss me with that flat earther "line drawing on a blurry photo" shit. We're not trying to hunt bigfoot here.

>>213112862
Explain both of those. How is china gonna conquer Japan? Has China won a single military engagement in all of history?
If Japan is at risk of attack from a big neighbor why declare war on a much bigger more powerful nation?
Why is it so hard to stop trusting the fucking government?

>>213111536
I do love them but I'd love them more if they weren't typically run by foreigners. Clearly you've never been driving 300+ miles in the middle of nowhere and your tank is running low and then you finally see the first station in hours. You walk in there happy as hell

>>213112919
>How is china gonna conquer Japan?
because japan was about to not have a military due to lack of oil

>>213107821 (OP)
The biggest appeal of solar is you can have houses that can be independent of a central grid ie decentralized power which is appealing for obvious reasons but ofc California doesn't have this approach at all.

>>213113293
looks like you'd need around 500 square feet of tracking solar panels to fully supply one home with electricity in ideal conditions. so double that.

>>213112945
>Clearly you've never been driving 300+ miles in the middle of nowhere and your tank is running low and then you finally see the first station in hours. You walk in there happy as hell
Lol I know this feeling too

>>213112945
>if they weren't typically run by foreigners

this is why everyone likes bucees. they only hire whites

>>213113466
>The average roof size for a typical home in the U.S. is about 2,000 square feet
That's not even that bad

>>213112310
In Genesis 37:9-10 there are 11 stars that made obesiance to him, meaning his brethren. It's explained immediately in the next verse and has nothing to do with Revelation.

>>213114104
Cost of panels
Cost of batteries
Cost of install
Cost of maintenance
Plus interest on the loan
>It's free energy from the sun bro

It's still so fucking funny to me that all the energy generation basically breaks down to "How can we boil the water"

>>213110146
Sorry you don't follow IAEA safety guidelines.
Look, a sievert is the international standard measurement for measuring the health risk posed by radiation levels. The formula is H = Q × D. According to the International Committee for Weights and Measures, the formula is expressed as "The quantity dose equivalent H is the product of the absorbed dose D of ionizing radiation and the dimensionless factor Q (quality factor) defined as a function of linear energy transfer by the ICRU".
I'm not sure why you're so dead set on defending the LNT model.

>>213114261
*Hydro, wind, and some solar excepted

>>213114261
Well, it works

Can the fucking chinks just finish the fusion reactor already so can end all this shit

>>213107887

>>213114178
Plus when it's lifecycle ends it becomes radioactive waste.
>Solar panels (over their lifetime) create somewhere in the region of 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/renewable-energy-paradox-solar-panels-and-their-toxic-waste

>>213114142
Only symbolically it does.
>12 tribes
>12 stars

>>213112310
Then again you could say the same about many things. All in all Revelation 12 does not talk about Joseph's dream, don't even know how you got to that conclusion.

>>213108044
The real reason we don't recycle waste in America is capitalism. We have plentiful supplies of uranium, so it's cheap to just keep mining new shit. The plutonium thing was one of the concerns during the cold war, but we're long past that now.
Countries like Japan recycle their waste because they don't have much uranium to go around.

>>213115420
Could we build a small number of reactors that exclusively run on waste from existing plants?

>>213107821 (OP)
And this is how you destroy vast tracts of land for only the fraction of the power output of the normal coal power plant while still relying on it due to frequent outages.

>>213107821 (OP)
grok how are the materials going into solar panels made?

>>213115569
Why not build this shit in the sea or at the top every building then?

>>213107849
>Chernobyl
>Fukushima

Reminder that the Fukushima power plant is still seeping radioactive residue into the paific ocean since the day it failed.

>>213116205
>in the sea
You're making everything more expensive, increasing the maintenance by an order of magnitude, and it's more exposed to severe weather than onshore.

>or at the top every building then
Not nearly enough surface area. Skyscrapers are energy hogs

>>213107849
My favorite piece of nuclear lore is how the other reactor in the "devastating" three mile island incident functioned without incident until it was shut down in 2019

>>213116513
Not nuclear powers fault the Japs are retards

>>213116951
>Anon shocked to learn nuclear reactors are built in separate containment structures

>>213117142
Yeah but when you think "nuclear meltdown" you think Fukushima and Chernobyl where thousands of people are displaced and there's a whole exclusion zone. Meanwhile Jimmy Carter just showed up at the control room a month after the accident like nothing happened and people live there to this day. Really goes to show how hard The China Syndrome propagandized the masses.

>>213107821 (OP)
I mean, that's the Nevada desert, it's hardly California.

>>213117231
Nuketards are their own worst enemies

>>213107849
They fear cheap energy and know that amermutts wouldn't be able to maintain the infrastructure anyways.

>>213107821 (OP)
YOU ACTIVATED ARCHIMEDES?????????

>>213107821 (OP)
Saudi hands typed this.

>>213118666
>They fear cheap energy
Why can't your shithole country afford it then?

>>213108090
>>>213108129 >>213108179 >>213108247 >>213110297
www.quaise.com

literally the future
I wish they were public so I could dump my life savings into them
at least you know they're legit because they arent public

>buy shitty solar panels made with Chinese coal to own climate change
powerful

>>213107890
Australia has enough coal to run the country for the foreseeable future, shut down all the coal power stations, utterly refuse to use nuclear, despite having more uranium than anyone, go back to using windmills instead. Faggot country, not even a country, faggot economic zone.

>>213108489
It's not about the viability of the project. It's about money changing hands and the profiteers leaving before results are expected.

>>213108044
Thorium would be nice to see put in action. The US is probably as bad as Russia about just running old power plants to their fullest letting old dogs lie.

>>213118986
Israel arbitrarily decides which countries are allowed to enrich uranium and enter the nuclear age

>>213108247
you think you're being smart but you're actually very dumb

>>213109365
the fact that you spend so many words trying to defend yourself exposes you as a midwit. people who know something keep it short and concise because they don't have anything to prove. also the idea that wall of text = smart is also a dumb people idea

>>213114104
Because they’re triangular, read: half the roof will never have direct sunlight or both halves will only ever get partial sunlight and they’d need to be designed to handle the weight of panels and keep them from flying off I wind, is what chatgpt didn’t tell you

>>213120631
Notice how nookers themselves never address actual problems with atomic power. When the public expresses concern about atomic energy, nookers tell them to hit the road, that it's "safe" and that's that. When the public is uninformed or has been disinformed, nookers give condescending answers and platitudes. When you bring up the high costs of new atomic power plants, nookers don't say anything.

>>213120758
Any idea what happens to home solar panels that get destroyed by severe weather? Does home insurance cover that or do they require a policy of their own?

>>213115420
The real-real reason is going full factorio and building a breeder reactor loop is considered pointless because no human building it or funding it would be alive to see the benefit. Short term thinking.

>>213120792
First actual Google result says they’re covered most of the time, which would give insurance companies huge incentive to disincentivize them.

>>213111667
when talking about american cereal, candy is not exactly an incorrect term.

>>213114455

>>213107849
Californians are brain dead.

>>213121190
That hurt me so much the first time.

>>213115593
>any of that shit
>solar panels
lmao

>>213121280
Yes they are but I'm pretty sure if you ask the average red-state voter they'd be against nuclear too

>>213110300
the nuclear scientists told the japanese not to build a reactor complex in that location for the exact reason that an earthquake or earthquake induced tsunami would fuck up the plant
so yes, it was human error

>>213121887
In my backyard yeah. Which is another “real” reason for so little support for nuclear.

>>213107849
Nuclear is very cost effective so Jews can’t scam the taxpayers with garbage like wind and solar.

>NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HARNESS THE GIGAWATTS OF FREE ENERGY RAINING DOWN ON YOU EVERDAY IN AN BARREN DERELICT AREA THAT WAS NOT FIT FOR HUMAN SETTLEMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE
why are leftoids like this

>>213122013
Nuclear that people want (extremely far away in places no one will live except for the staff) is an investment that won’t pay off for a century and won’t benefit any sitting politician because it won’t increase their tax base, but instead create new politicians and tax bases who love nuclear.

>>213108372
We could. India is also huge.

>>213116951
people losing their minds over 3 mile island is one of the most blackpilling things ever
the dose of radiation received by the community around the reactor was lower than what you get from a single flight from nyc to la. but almost all people are npcs and they hear "nuclear" and shid and piss and cry because that's what the talking face on the magic picture box told them to do when they hear "nuclear"
it always amazes people when you tell them that eating a single banana for breakfast every morning for a year exposes them to more radiation than working at a nuclear power plant for a year. or that a normal chest xray is a larger dose of radiation than what an entire nuclear plant's worth of workers receives in a year

>>213107993
>scared of solar panels
Are you a fucking boomer too? Jesus christ. Oh no, cheap energy....

>>213122043
The energy did not consent to be harnessed.

>>213108129
fusion is not that difficult to achieve if you're not trying to use it to generate electricity (specifically more electricity than you consume)

>>213107849
the oil/coal/gas industries shilled against it hard in the 20th century and boomers believe anything the media says
they actually shilled in favor of wind/solar, knowing well that it could never actually replace oil/coal/gas for base load power

>>213121971
>Still no solution to the human error problem
Guess the logical option would be to phase out nuclear power

>>213122013
>>213122088
I'm currently paying for 2 new nuclear reactors that became part of the most expensive power station in the world, don't lie to me that it's cheap, it's a fucking ripoff

>>213120631
Three Mile Island was nothing. You get more radiation from a cross country flight. The linear no-threshold exposure scale is a shit scale.

>>213120760
The only thing you've got is cost. Everything else is schizo-tier "(((they))) don't want us to know the truth" type shit. Plenty of anons itt have explained why, but you're too busy eating lead paint chips to ward off 5G waves.

>>213122136
It’s people with IQs over 80 able to discern how close 3 mile island came to being catastrophic. Imagine widespread nuclear power now, this deep in the competency crisis, being on the same level as the railroads, except instead of regular derailing its regular meltdowns.

>>213122294
>it boils water

>>213120760
>When you bring up the high costs of new atomic power plants, nookers don't say anything.
Compared to what? The costs associated with making a coal or nat gas or hydroelectric plant from scratch? I suppose you wouldn't want to talk about that huh?