I can't believe this actually happened
Such inhuman cruelty...

Why were they so lazy?

>>213115456 (OP)
it's not so hard to believe during a world war with dozens of millions of victims.

>>213115589
It's also doubly not hard to believe when Goth was arrested by Germans themselves in 1944 for pretty much everything described in the movie and corroborated by prisoners in the camp.

>>213115456 (OP)
was waiting for a jump cut to IDF soldier sniping Palestinian kid

>>213115751
yes. that's why it's kinda dishonest to present him as the typical nazi.

>>213115456 (OP)

>be jew
>create jewish propaganda about atrocities
>your own jews actually believe this too
>create a brutal ethnostate
>they can realise their fictional atrocities, but now in reality, against real people in a real concentration camp

Really epic history those fellas have.
I'm sure they'll be remembered fondly by future generations as really smart and rational people.

>>213115788
This, you know some brownoid is gonna scrape together enough money one day to remake Schindler’s list but with Gaza orphans waiting in line for international aid blockaded and administered by the IDF

>>213115456 (OP)
What are some movies with this kind of badass killer archetype, besides this scene, no country for old men, and collateral

>>213115456 (OP)
This, but unironically. The book gives a bit more insight into Göth's state of mind than the movie does. He was drinking a lot, putting on weight, and generally losing his shit during this period. That's suggested, but not strongly conveyed, by the film.

By the way, the book is awful. It's one of the most turgidly written things I've ever read. Come to think of it, I don't like the film either. The events themselves are remarkable; it's too bad "Schindler's List" is the monument they received.

>>213115837
>Arabs
>real people

>>213115906
The Killer

>>213115809
Why it's dishonest? He was removed for selling and outright wasting prisoners. He was several times ordered to demolish ghettos and was known to personally execute prisoners in Plaszow. They didn't arrest him for killing jews. They arrested him for selling them for covert profit on his own accord. Nothing in the movie is in any way contradicted by historical records, even if you are adamant that every single jew lies as he breathes.

google operation meetinghouse

soviets starved millions to death in just a matter of months. yet nobody shot a film about that to this day. hollywood would rather shot a film about Wolfenstein game

>>213115456 (OP)
Still happens today

>>213116036
>historical records
were those confessions obtained by means of torture like in the Nuremberg trials?

>>213116145
>soviets starved millions to death in just a matter of months. yet nobody shot a film about that to this day.

he was mocking Peter Griffin actually

>>213115456 (OP)
>theyputusincartsandrolledusintothefire.jpg
This actually happened.

>>213116145
>implying

>>213115456 (OP)
Why didn't they show us the masturbation death machines, the rollercoaster of death, and the soccer balls made of Jewish flesh?

>>213115456 (OP)
WE ARE HELEN HIRSCH!!!

>>213116204
It's not a confession. There are documents of his sacking that pretty much confirm that everything jews were saying about him didn't go unnoticed even by the SS. Most noteworthy is the "wasting of labor force" indictment, which can only mean one thing.
The only thing Amon ever even elaborated on at the trial was his pronouns, that they should stop calling him SS captain since he was promoted to major. But nobody respected his tranny fit. The guy was literally screaming HH just before he was dropped at the gallows. I have no idea why guys like you are trying to pretend he didndu nuffin. Unless it's just out of autistic principles.

>>213116542
Nobody actually cares about some insane person murdering civilians in war times, it happens. The fact that you know every detail in this case is weird.

>>213115456 (OP)
>Kubrick filling up storage rooms with boxes of holocaust research for a movie
>Speilberg releases Schindler's List
Late to the party again, Stanley!

>>213116799
>Everything he's saying is right, but it's weird that he knows about it
That was quite a retreat.

>>213116863
You know, I wish I could see Kubrick's Napleon movie, but Barry Lyndon is so good I can't wish it unmade.

By the way, don't misspend your time with Schindler's List, this is far and away the best concentration camp movie out there.

>>213115456 (OP)
>1994
>31yrs ago
Just fuck everything.

>>213115456 (OP)
It really is sick what they did to those poor chosen people

It's unbelievable how easy it is to predict your threads.

>>213115994
I’m hesitant towards David fincher but thanks anon

>>213116542
Ok, so show me the documents that he used to just wake up and start sniping prisoners for fun from his balcony in a comically evil fashion whilst having his morning cigarette. I don't doubt he personally executed prisoners, but the way Spielberg shoots it is fucking hilarious.

>>213116315
Because those are pol fan fiction made as false flags to undermine real events.

>>213116799
>Nobody actually cares
The amount of denial that this never happened or could not have happened says otherwise. Honestly, saying holocaust denial or holocaust propaganda is a nothingburger topic is really rich. If you count the number of times the Pianist webm of a wheelchair-bound grandpa taking flight was posted on this board over the years, with a "discussion" that this can't be true, pretending that when Germans were niggering out Polish ghettos they were actually gentle, it would most certainly be in the upwards of thousands.
>you know every detail in this case
Unlike /pol/ niggers who dismiss everything that involves even a scrap of testimony from jews I decided to actually look into how much was exaggerated. In reality there are more tall tales about Schindler in this movie than about Amon.

>>213117183
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread.

>>213116863
>>Kubrick filling up storage rooms with boxes of holocaust research for a movie
What he found out is the real reason they killed him

>>213117230
>it's the Ivan schizo
Oh no no no no NO NO HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>213117216
What denial?
Nobody is denying that a German went nuts and started killing prisoners.

>>213117260
>NOOO OUR RAID THREAD IS RECOGNIZED AGAIN NOOO

>>213117268
>>213117183
Aside from your friend, the other russian pol faggot.

Let me make one last comment about Schindler's List. One scene in the book interested me particularly, a scene in which Amon Göth burns his mouth on some soup and shoots the cook for making the soup too hot. It's been observed that, the more you humor someone and the more you shield them from offense, the more sensitive to offense they become. Take transgender people for example -- as society has carved out greater and greater accommodations for them, rather than growing more placid and satisfied no longer being "oppressed," they have grown more aggressive and their demands more extravagant. I think Göth and the soup is an illustration of this. Imagine you were in an environment where you could kill practically anyone who annoyed or inconvenienced you in any way, without consequence. Over time you would grow less and less accustomed to being annoyed or challenged and you would lose your capacity to tolerate it. It's natural to think first of the poor cook being shot for no reason, but you also have to contemplate Göth's frame of mind. Through his unwise actions he cultivated such impatient sensitivity that burning his tongue on soup threw him into a homicidal rage. It's a way of turning an adult back into an immature child.

>>213117230
You know, they tried to make Ralph Fiennes look fat and unhealthy during that part of the film, but it didn't really work in my opinion.

>>213117268
Göth was Austrian btw.

>>213117337
Sorry, bolshevik, your plan to eradicate the Russian people failed, you don't have to make up stories because of it.

This guy belongs in a mental institution

>>213115967
>Jews
>Real people
You should really remember what happens when you crack open this can of worms, Bibi.

>>213117404
>Suddenly it's about troons too
Definitely a Russian info op. GO BACK TO /pol/!

>>213117431
>Comrade, if I point out our ongoing influence campaign is recognized it will....uhhh...
Idiot

>>213117464
Reread the post, don't just scan for keywords.

>>213117337
>russian pol faggot
Russian /pol/ faggots see more Nazis behind every shadow than even Jews do.

>>213117458
>>213117414
and the Russian agitation shill drops all pretenses

>>213117505
kek I'm Swedish but I stand with all holocaust deniers, Russian or not.

>>213117497
yes comrade this is of good deflection, next say reddit

>>213117530
yes comrade of course from Sweden oblast

>>213115967
Why are kikes so desperate for damage control? Your kind are literal pajeets, perhaps worse.

>>213115456 (OP)
What I find so baffling about the direction of this character is they made him some square-jawed ubermensch instead of the middle-aged fat bastard he actually was. It's not only ahistorical but it weirdly romanticizes him given making him a nasty fat fuck would've made his evilness more obvious.

>>213117183
That's from the jewish testimonies not Spielberg's invention. So yes, as a chuddie, who can trust no jews you can dismiss it outright. But there are factual documents from Germans stating that he was executing prisoners to a degree where it was considered a "waste of labor," so it could not have been shooting a couple of Moshes for being nefarious kikes. It was something on the scale and to the extent of becoming an indictment. Furthermore, the layout of the camp supports the possibility of it happening he lived in the building just as depicted in the movie that looked down on the camp from an incline. Would it be a gross exaggeration that over the years, as he became comfortable with being an overseer, this would progress to shooting jews from the balcony? Many camp prisoners attest that this happened on multiple occasions. Honestly, what document are you expecting where anyone would unironically type "arrested for shooting kikes from the balcony too much"?

The scene where they're about to "get gassed" in the shower but then it actually is just a shower, makes me think Spielberg knows the holohoax is fake.

>>213117533
>this is of good deflection
Oh trust me NAFOnon, I genuinely hate Russians and Putin more than anyone else on this board. If I were five years older I'd be in Ukraine dead or alive at the moment.
I hate Biden,Trump, and Western leadership for being too soft and incompetent on Russia, not for being too light on them.
>>213117505
>not liking genocide makes you a Holocaust denier
Ok retard, I have an ancestor whowas killed by the SS in a POW camp outside of Frankfurt btw.
>t. Scots-Irish old stock White American

>>213117458
>Ants killing ants
Why do you give so much of a fuck?

>>213115456 (OP)
Erm
>Schindler's Ark is a historical fiction published in 1982 by the Australian novelist Thomas Keneally. It is a fictionalized story based on the historical figure, Oskar Schindler. The United States edition of the book was titled Schindler's List
>fictionalized story

>>213117589
Ok, so the scene is total fiction, thank you.

That's because it didn't. The balcony wasn't overlooking the camp because there was a mound between.

>>213117639
>Why do you give so much of a fuck?
Because Zionists base the right of Israel to do heinous shit on our dollar based on the fact that they had heinous shit done to them.

>>213115456 (OP)
it was based then, and its based now that its jews doing to palestinians. imperial slaughter is just always a good thing

>>213117639
One of those "ants" control your government and your future.

>>213117566
But then how else would they do the Hollywood forbidden romance between a hot jew slut and SS officer?

>>213115456 (OP)
Why didn't they show the holocoaster in this movie?

>>213117665
Yet you insist they're not human, as a response to the argument that sandniggers aren't human. So if you view neither as human and don't contend the issue, why do you care so much about them killing each other. You clearly have a dog in this fight.

>>213117609
Or maybe that rumors about gas chambers being masked as showers would spread around Poland by 1944 and most certainly reach a fucking population of polish jews shipped around Krakow.

>>213117646
Yes Ivan we know you don't know what historical fiction means.

>>213117683
If what you say is true, sounds to me then like it's a good thing they have to spend so much time and energy squashing those other ants. That's less time and energy they can spend controlling us. I wonder why you'd be against that...

>>213117718
Who spread the rumor?

>>213117635
>NAFOnon
> I genuinely hate Russians
No Ivan this isn't hiding that you're a russian shill either.

>>213116036
>HISTORICAL RECORDS
>CONFESSIONS
>DOCUMENTS
Ok, show them.

>>213117747
This guy
>Grocher claims to have survived nine different Nazi concentration camps during World War II including Buchenwald and Majdanek. He also wrote that he survived the Majdanek gas chambers. When he realized he was led to gassing by the guards, he began walking backwards.

>>213117755
>>213117609
>>213117067
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread.

>>213117716
>why do you care so much about them killing each other. You clearly have a dog in this fight.
Because Israel kills people using our weapons and funds their war using our money, and we have no say in it. If it were some backwater third world conflict like Burma I wouldn't care, but the U.S has been intimately involved in Israel's shenanigans for decades at this point and covering for them diplomatically largely due to the disproportionate influence of several groups and intelligence dedicated to keeping the U.S tied to Israel.

>>213117780
Russians famously love nazi germany

>>213117589
You're drawing a lot of conclusions and phrasing sentences in a very specific way.

>he was executing prisoners to a degree where it was considered a "waste of labor
could be rephrased:
>he was executing criminals and the higher ups considered it a waste of labor

>>213117784
>>213117780

>>213117793
Don't engage the schizo

>>213117778
HEEB HEEB

>>213117713
What about the masturbation machine. Don't forget the masturbation machine.
>>213117755
You've been shown them, numerous times, and you have the resources available to quickly and easily see them again. You just continue to cope that they're fabricated / not real / out of context / edited / don't prove anything. Your request is a dishonest effort to stop debate and claim victory. I'm the times of Aristotle and Plato you'd be thrown out of the debate hall for wasting time.

>>213117794
You're trying awful hard to revise views of nazis.

>>213117753
>russian shill
I unironically would be a far better Western shill on here than you ever could.
CIA, MI6, NATO; whoever's listening, hire me. I'd do a much better job than this retard.

>>213117652
>if you don't document the exact practices of execution and methodology of war crimes, then they never happened
That basically means Pol Pot's boys never tortured anyone in that S13 prison of his. They never had any documentation at all.
The fuck do those mugshots prove? Nothing happened.

>>213117780
So, no documents. Got it.
>it's the yes ivan schizo
lol

>>213115751
Wait why would the nazis arrest him if he was just killing Jews like they were? What’s next, you’re going to tell me the Wehrmacht almost ended up fighting the Banderites in the ukraine?

>>213117846
>>213117753

>>213117849
Pathetic straw man, do better.

>>213117819
>You've been shown them, numerous times
No I have not.
>you have the resources available
That's not how proof works.

Just say that the documents don't exist.

>>213117852
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread. No Ivan this isn't tv related.

>>213117784
>Using our weapons to kill a bunch of terrorists
Sounds like they're doing us a favor. Like a mercenary service. We pay them to put their lives and small hatted heads on the line to wipe out these pissants and we don't lose a single man. Sounds like a win to me. Not to mention, again assuming what you say is true, why would you think supporting the rag tag group of sandniggers against a country that controls ALL of our government and ALL of our institutions will get you anywhere? They've been getting their shit pushed in for the better part of a century. What makes you think cheering for them on college campuses or sailing a boat to their country only to be sent back will make them start "winning"

>>213117842
Like someone already said multiple times post the documents, you must have them since you also know the exact translation of said documents.

>>213117849
>if you don't document the exact practices of execution and methodology of war crimes, then they never happened
People in this very thread are claiming that this thing is well documented though.

>>213117887
Yes Ivan you have. You've made this thread for about 10 years now and you try the same shit over and over.

>>213115456 (OP)
This movie was too one sided for me.

>>213117856
>Wait why would the nazis arrest him if he was just killing Jews like they were?
I said it above: they didn't arrest him for killing jews, they arrested him for embezzling, aka selling jews to Schindler and others for undocumented profits.
Later to the overall charge they added his general conduct in the camp. But the sacking from Plaszow occurred specifically for "waste of labor."

>>213117898
>>213117921
Yes Ivan we know you're raiding. No Ivan this isn't tv related.

>>213117896
>>213117929
So, still no documents. Got it.

>>213117887
You're just lying, another reason why you're not worth debating. You HAVE been shown them. You've just used one of the five copes I listed every single time you're presented with something that conflicts with your narrative. The photos of the mass graves. The confessions from the Nazis. Their attempts to hide their inhumanities after the fact KNOWING what they had done. You've been shown it all over and over and over again and, like a black person in a traffic stop, you just keep claiming you've been shown nothin and dindu nothin. The only solution is to drag you out of the car, onto the curb, and handcuff you.

did the nazi tranny bot break?

>>213117956
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol nazi revisionism thread.

>>213117965
>no documents of this heavily documented thing
Hmm, weird!

>>213115751
>tHEY ARRESTED HIM FOR IT, THAT MEANS IT MUST BE TRUE! HOw CAN THE HOLOCAUST BE FAKE, THEY MADE SO MANY MOVIES ABOUT IT!?!?

13-year-old theatre kid logic

>>213117982
So... still no documents, got it.

>>213117965
>better make a jab at black people so people don't think I'm a jewish shill
subtle, moshe.

>>213117965
Still waiting for the documents

>>213118009
>jewish shill
And the Russian agitation shill desperately deflects

>>213117985
>I DINDU NUFFIN I DINDU NUFFIN
>SHO ME DA VIDEO!!! SHO ME DA TAPE!!!
>YOU AINT GOT NO PROOF I WUZ SPEEDIN
>Ma'am, we have you on the speedometer and the video of you running the stop sign
>SHOW ME!!! PROOVE IT BITCH!!! I DINDU NUFFIN!!!

>walk into any nazi thread
>ask for documents or proof
>watch as the thread blows up
works every time

>>213118009
Kek

American nazism is completely splintered and disorganized right now and barely reaches out of Telegram and 4chan, but they still live rent free in every lefftoid's head lol

>>213118034
You know they would have to show the driver or court proof of speeding right?

>>213118003
>>213118019
>>213118040
>the poltard stomps his feet like a child when he doesn't get his way

>>213118034
Sure but where are the documents?

>>213115456 (OP)
The film also left out the fact that the Polish fucked up his execution twice before getting it right the third time. I won't post it, but you can find it on YouTube

> first time, they drop him and the rope comes undone
> second time they drop him and the rope is too long and he lands on his feet
> third time they get it right

>>213117994
>they forged all the documents, eyewitness accounts, random diaries, aerial photos, tortured everyone who claimed that extermination of Jews took place
Whos logic is this? A retarded person? A mentally ill person?

>>213118009
I like how you have to say Jewish "shill" because your attempts to prove that anyone who opposes you is somehow Jewish always falls flat on its face. kek, go back to watching your gay Mexican fed. I'll be going out to dinner with my white family on this Saturday night. What will you be doing? Oh yeah, seething on 4chan, as usual.

>>213118055
These are Russians, and they are leftist.

>>213118072
>moshe stomps his feet like a child when he gets asked for proof rather than believed at face value

>>213118069
Yeah, the court, which they already have. No one has to show or explain anything to a screaming baboon like you or shaniqua, especially when the proof has usually already been presented.

>>213117921
Yes, him killing prisoners is very well documented. There are actually very few nazi criminals where you can directly point to a paper trail of German origin that confirms that the executions were noted even by SS. What you are disputing and wanting me to show you is an indictment german court that says, "shot prisoners from balcony with a sniper rifle while flopping dat fupa."
And I'm telling you if absence of these nonsensical documents is all it takes for this to be dismissed, then you need to realize that the majority of commie war crimes and genocides, along with their methods, have no documentation of any shape or form.

>>213118118
>y-you have to engage with me how I want!
I don't.

>>213118157
>Yes, him killing prisoners is very well documented
Ok, show the documents.

>>213118157
Ok, so you're admitting that the scene is fictitious and based on nothing?

>>213118157
>then you need to realize that the majority of commie war crimes and genocides, along with their methods, have no documentation of any shape or form.
when you realize these threads are made by Russians this will make more sense.

>>213118160
>I don't.
You already are though.
Got any documents to post?

I'm having flashbacks to being 17 and on /pol/, I love this thread.
Also post the "documents"

>>213118199
>>213118160

>>213117994
>everything that contests my shizo denial of kike massacres is a kike forgery no matter the origin
dude, that's epicsauce

Crazy that Jews use a fake genocide as justification to commit a real genocide.

>>213118232
>>213118199

>>213118094
>>they forged all the documents, eyewitness accounts, random diaries, aerial photos, tortured everyone who claimed that extermination of Jews took place

Literally yes.

>>213118196
A woman in the 50s saying she got raped carried a lot more weight because that's not something she would ever want to admit and nothing to gain by it.
A jew saying "me and my entire family except my 89 y/o grandmother survived the certain death camp" carries very little weight.

>>213118157
>What you are disputing and wanting me to show you is an indictment german court that says, "shot prisoners from balcony with a sniper rifle while flopping dat fupa."
But that's blatantly wrong. And unlike you I have proof that you are misrepresenting my requests because my requests are in this very thread.
Your attempts at twisting the truth only reinforce the idea that you are dishonest and that I shouldn't trust anything you say.

>>213118263
Just read the Protocols, it's all in there

>>213118235
Baby is starting to understand the concept of atrocity propaganda and blackmail! Soon you'll let go off your pacifier

>>213118263
Crazy that russia is too weak to take Ukraine.
>>213118303
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread.

>>213118354
yes Ivan we know that you are here to spread holocaust denial propaganda.

>2 hours since thread was made
>not a single document posted
gets the nogging jogging

>>213117897
>Sounds like they're doing us a favor
What quarrel do we have with the Palestinians or the Lebanese? Hell, Israel is currently attacking and invading the Syrian government that NATO installed and the U.S is currently trying to stabilize and prop up. All Israel's interventions in this area have done for the past 60 years is turn these peoples against us, destabilize and radicalize their countries, and produce refugees that have now swamped our allies in Europe and created a large, anti-Western fifth column and financial burden.
>why would you think supporting the rag tag group of sandniggers against a country that controls ALL of our government and ALL of our institutions will get you anywhere
Because that's the prevailing opinion of everybody under the age of 65 in this country given Israel has been committing some of the worst atrocities this century using our guns, tax dollars, and politicians; thus sinking our international prestige and moral authority worldwide?
>What makes you think cheering for them on college campuses or sailing a boat to their country only to be sent back will make them start "winning"
With regards to the left, it's a case of the golem built by liberal Zionists in the U.S and the West turning against them and their authority, thus giving us an in to finally rid our country of the infuence of this entrenched parasitic force so we can finally fucking move on from the sandbox and focus on fighting Russia and China.

>>213118378
What does pissrael being a genocidal terrorist shithole have to do with russia? wasnt your old talking point that russia was heckin jewish and putin was photographed with a bunch of rabbis?

>>213118378
>>213118411
I'm 1/4 Finnish and I'm starting to like Russians because of you.

>>213118411
>Russians, the people obsessed with suffering, embracing it so wholeheartedly, a concept so deeply embedded in their culture, who were subverted and mass genocided by Jewish Bolsheviks, who about a hundred years later are praising Lenin as some type of "revolutionary for the Russian people" are now spreading holocaust revisionism on a /tv/ thread

>>213118506
Don't forget they made anti-semitism illegal and are constantly calling western european nations "nazis"

How does abolishing anti-corruption laws help defeat Russia?

>>213118589
>Don't forget they made anti-semitism illegal
punishable by death you mean, yeah.

Daily reminder these weird ass pro-ukraine posters are literally, unironically, apart of a cult from reddit.

>>213118461
The Left has been hating Israel since 1960s. Every time they do something in Gaza all those Euro artists call for their boycott, send open letters and similar stuff.

>>213117639
>falling for this kike subversion
ISHYGDDT

>>213117742
Yeah, it's impossible for a government to do two or three things at the same time.

>>213117897
>fallacious kike ramblings
Don’t waste your time responding

>>213118674
>NOOOOOOOOOOO
>NOT MY HECKIN BASED SANDNIGGERINOS
>NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>213118674
>>213118846
It's not about who they're genociding, but the fact that they're even allowed to genocide anyone in the first place. The raping and murdering that takes place over there comes at our expense, you fucking retards.

>>213118883
not to mention that if Jews want to continue to cash in on this seemingly unlimited moral currency they've been able to access for the past 80 years or so, by incessantly antagonizing and blackmailing White nations, they should not perpetuate the shit they claim happened to them during this period, regardless of whether it's sandniggers or some other racial group

>>213115456 (OP)
Look, I get the inaccurate numbers argument but how can you outright say the whole thing is fake when there's literal Nazi documents on the implementation of the Final Solution and endless firsthand corroborated accounts?

>>213118655
>The Left has been hating Israel since 1960s
Lots of them have (especially after the USSR turned against Israel), but the thing was that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict just wasn't a major news story in Europe or America back then when the Cold War was ongoing, be it due to Western media deliberately ignoring/censoring info about it or greater concerns like nuclear war, the Vietnam and Afghan Wars, etc. dominating headlines instead. It really wasn't until the 1980s during the Lebanon War that Western attention really went to that conflict, when Israel's atrocities and actions were too obvious and horrific to ignore and also managed to catastrophically drag in the U.S.
>>213118846
>anon is still living in the early 00s
In some ways, I envy your ignorance.

>>213118846
>more kvetching
>>213118883
No shit sherlock

>>213118981
That's the thing, there aren't any mentions of any "final solution" in any German documents from the time.

>>213118981
Anybody who continues to gobble up this slop, do yourselves a favor and visit the Colchester Collection, specifically the "Holocaust" category and peruse every single book you can find there

>>213119044
I know every single denier argument. You aren't convincing, you're full of shit in fact. You want me to believe that every single document was forged, that every single nation was part of this giant conspiracy and that no one ever admitted it. Give me a break.

>>213118981
There literally isn't. Ontop of it complete and utter fucking bullshit like Wiesel's "Night" being considered non-fiction. It's a joke, the entire silly story behind the holocaust makes absolutely no fucking sense.

>>213117852
When do you think they'll give up on this shit?

>>213118981
It definitely happened but Jews cry about it too much as if this hasn’t been committed by every other nation in the 20th century onwards, it’s just a consequence of states having the resources to commit ideological violence on a mass scale. Kikes are carrying out and supporting genocide right now so it’s not like they’re any better

>>213118883
Then do something about it. Actually do something about it. Stop the genocide. Work to remove Israels influence from the states. DO something about it? Oh, no you won't, because you never do anything and you love to just complain and whine all day on 4chan. Oh and I forgot, anyone who encourages you to do anything is also a fed. So the plan of the Fuher and the Final Solution is to just sit on the Internet, eat Cheetos, and seethe. Gorcha

>>213118613
Ivan spammer didn't reply to this for some reason

>>213119030
Yeah, except for minutes of the Wannsee Conference and many others.

>>213118094
It's the same logic people who think the earth is flat uses. They just discard everything as fake.

>>213119135
What makes sense? That Nazis deported Jews behind their own front lines and then released them so they could join the partisans or maybe The Red Army? This makes more sense to you?

>>213119134
>You want me to believe that every single document was forged, that every single nation was part of this giant conspiracy and that no one ever admitted it.

Yes. You also would if you were a compromised politician like every single one Western nations have had ever since the end of WW2, guilt campaigns on top of extreme monetary incentives. But sure, keep gnawing on that bone, you fucking retards and your fantasy world are going to become extinct pretty soon

>>213118981
Jews being put in concentration camps during world war 2 obviously happened. Industrialized murder of six million using zyklon b gas did not happen.

>>213119178
>the sources for this are more novels that came out decades after the fact
>probably just as fictitious as Wiesel's garbage

>>213115967
>Shlomo actually thinks he's not an Arab

>>213119205
More so the fact that this never happened and this cry baby "Holocaust" sentiment wasn't even really established until well into the 60s when Jews started releasing unironic fictitious "journals and films depicting the massacre"

>>213119159
>Then do something about it
I believe we are, the overton window has shifted so drastically that Jews don't really know what to do, despite owning the biggest propaganda machine in the history of humanity. Once the boomers die off, their last line of defense will be shattered and our narratives are gonna start pouring in, since we have truth on our side.

>>213119141
I wouldn't hold my breath.

>>213119159
Why are you acting like you know him? Stop being pathetic.

The simple fact is that we must win the culture war, and we won't win it as long as trash like this is taken seriously rather than being scorned as the manipulations of our eternal enemy. Anyone who disagrees with this position is a traitor to 4chan.

>>213119262
It's already mentioned in Nuremberg verdicts. Also:

>The Last Stage (Polish: Ostatni etap) is a 1948 Polish historical drama film directed and co-written by Wanda Jakubowska, depicting her experiences in the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II.[1] The film was one of the early cinematic efforts to describe the Holocaust. Jakubowska’s film influenced subsequent directors that dealt with the subject, including Alain Resnais, Gillo Pontecorvo and Steven Spielberg.[2] In film criticism, it is often referred to as "the mother of all holocaust films".[3][4][5]

>>213119273
newsflash doofus, right-wing is pro-Israel, left-wing is pro-Palestine
All those 20 year olds are looking at the facebook videos showing slaughter of little arab children with envy. As they should. You just know those kikes have some rad science fiction kino stowed away in their synagogues about manifest destiny and the triumph of will, while we're stuck with chickenshit marvelslop and kurtzman trek.

>>213119159
>>213119286

The Israeli operatives that are being paid to post round-the-clock across every board to antagonize you are telling you to get a life. lmfao

>>213119375
You expect me to take you seriously pasting wikipedia entries? I'm not 12 years old, you are pathetic.

>>213119159
>already onto demoralization
Do you really think this looks organic big guy?
Also uniroincally antisemtic shtposting here has done more to make people anti-Israel than almost anything else lol

>>213119394
What the hell does any of this mean and how does it address what I just posted?

>>213119394
>right is this and left is that
Maybe if you're a terminally online fucking retard but here in reality it's completely different

>>213119394
>right-wing is pro-Israel, left-wing is pro-Palestine
Only in the U.S, and even then there's a massive age gap between Boomers and everyone else on that issue.
Hell, in Japan their chuds literally name the J lol

>>213119418
Israeli operatives are paid to curate every and all articles pertaining to Jews, demonizing Western nations and glazing Jewish history. I believe there's a news report on YT you can look up.

>>213119462
Well they're doing a bad job, that retard literally proved my point for me

>>213119394
>Right and Left dichotomy like we're still in 2015

someone airdrop this guy to London and radicalize him or something

>>213119418
Lol, so now you deny that a film The Last Stage exists?

>>213119479
Their Wikipedia is like a cathedral for biased and carefully selected History-slop for dumb goyim to swallow.

>>213119491
>>213119448
>>213119436
you're the ones who posted the fucking tweet niggers

>>213119502
No? That was my point to begin with you fucking dumbass, it's FICTION

>>213115854
Schlomo's list

>>213119532
Right-wing, given the context, is about truth-seeking and nationalism. Not Trump-adjacent, black rifle coffee, Jocko Willink, Israel-supporting faggots.

in any case, the boomers aren't going to die off before the millenials

>>213119545
No, you said this fiction started in the 1960s. The movie is from 1947/1948.

>>213119573
Today right-wingers believe in every silly conspiracy theory and are unable to tell if a source is reliable or not.

>>213119578
>more and more and more Jewish propaganda

is there any argument to make at this point?

>>213119617
You're mentally ill so no argument will convince you. You will call every document "Jewish propaganda".

>>213119578
I said the sentiment hadn't been established, which is why Rockwell didn't establish his Nazi party until 1960. Out of his own mouth he describes the efforts put forth by Jews to spread their horse shit

>>213119608
>Today right-wingers believe in every silly conspiracy theory and are unable to tell if a source is reliable or not.

This thread, a generous chunk of social media collectively bunching up to hate Jews and how you're all getting owned right now says otherwise.

>>213119608
Really now which ones? Because post-COVID left wingers became the biggest looney bin retard conspiracy theorists on Earth

>>213119640
Every single "expert" agrees that the jews are committing a genocide right now, yet here you are defending them. Maybe appeals to authority aren't something you should be doing right now, shmulie.

>>213119640
>calling those that disagree with you mentally ill in order to win an argument

I don't think any of us have called you that during the whole thread. Instead, we provided you with a bunch of different revisionist talking points and you continue to throw insults with nothing else to back up your arguments

>>213119312
Posting on 4chan isn't fighting some le epic war

>>213119678
It's because of the Cold War. West Germany was now America's friend so it was better to not remind anyone about the holocaust and other German crimes. This changed in the 60s with Eichmann trial and SS trials in West Germany.

Using bullets to kill people at a large scale is incredibly uneconomical. All you have to do is just not feed them and they’ll all die in large numbers. It costs nothing

>>213118297
Holocaust denial is literally a NATO psyop intended to target people who are inclined to mistrust government. The goal is to isolate them from other mistrustful groups and pit them against one another to prevent mass disobedience from coalescing between different political and social groups.

you got got nitwit.

>>213119728
>Posting on 4chan isn't fighting some le epic war
It unironically seems to be considering it helped get shamu's fat ass elected in 2016. If the people of this side of the net get their shit together, this will unequivocally seep into the minds of regular normie people like with every major political movement of the last 15 years.

But why were the Germans so angry with the Jews? Could it be because the Jews were doing to the Germans in the 1930s exactly as they've done to Americans and Europeans in the 2010s and 2020s?

>>213118166
Okay, I legit tried, but I wouldn't know what archive to go to, or if it's even scanned, or what access it requires and how long it would take.
He was tried in Poland, so nothing in Nuremberg archive but they obviously had to share it with US.
It's in the trial repository.
In the US archive it is cited as
>Item 34. Indictment
So it was brought to trail.
It's 400 mb pdf file.
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn502103
You can request it. It says it's digitized.
But also
>This material can only be accessed in a Museum reading room or other on-campus viewing stations. Researchers must complete and sign a User Declaration form before access is granted to materials from the Institute of National Remembrance

>>213118184
It's based on testimony of the prisoners. Said testimony is not contradicted by any existing documents and is in fact reinforced by them. The fact that you are pretending that him shooting from a balcony that existed, shooting the jews he was already known to kill on his own accord, and shooting in the camp that he was fired from for too much shooting is something out of the realm of fantasy and is a tad silly.

>>213118335
>But that's blatantly wrong
How is it blatantly wrong? The manner of killing would never be described in any document, not to mention SS one. So how would one prove in document form he shot kikes from his balcony?

>>213118184
It's based on testimony. That testimony is reinforced by the reason for Amon being sacked from the camp in the first place.

>>213118196
>made by Russians
>>213118478
>and I'm starting to like Russians
You know what's hysterically funny to me? I am myself Russian. Here I am defending the validity of a scene from a Spielberg Holocaust drama, and on my side is some schizo who sees every /pol/ poster as Ivan infiltrating the internet for the sake of subversion of /tv/ board >>213117852 (impressive numbers btw) and wants me dead on principle.

>>213119763
>Holocaust denial is literally a NATO psyop intended to target people who are inclined to mistrust government. The goal is to isolate them from other mistrustful groups and pit them against one another to prevent mass disobedience from coalescing between different political and social groups.

lmao

>>213119704
For example that holocaust is a hoax, lol.
>>213119707
I'm not defending Jews and modern Israel. Those are different things.

>>213119722
I'm calling you mentally ill because you believe in some grand conspiracy that was able to forge thousands of documents but for some reason was unable to forge actual Hitler's order.

>>213115456 (OP)
>so much speculation about these so called "death camps"
>not a single document to prove any of it

Really. Makes. You. Think..................

>>213119806
>I'm not defending Jews and modern Israel
nah bro you're just deeply concerned about some war 80 years ago. Totally unrelated.

>>213119806
"thousands of documents" is made up bullshit. Jews had no different of a time than anyone else displaced during a war. Which is why the only evidence of "atrocities" are anecdotes and straight up fuckin fiction

>>213119780
You should then ask yourself why they killed mostly Polish and Soviet Jews if they were angry at German Jews.

>>213119796
the truth of the holocaust is irrelevant in 2025, the only material impact it has as a movement is dividing common folk

>>213118981
Deniers will literally just say any and all evidence/testimony is fake or falsified or doctored or whayever. They don't argue in good faith.

>>213119832
I'm deeply concerned about truth.

>>213119763
>Holocaust denial is literally a NATO psyop intended to target people who are inclined to mistrust government
WTF is this Russian nonsense lmao, I don't deny the Holocaust at all but this is the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard.
>>213119783
>I am myself Russian
To the shock of nobody. I have no idea where the meme of post-Soviet Russians being literal Nazis came from given they're the ones who are literally dying by the hnudreds of thousands to "denazify" Ukarine and have a national cult dedicated to the USSR.

>>213119728
I think IDF posting vids online showing off their atrocities is work enough. Pretty much everyone who isn’t a kike or on the Epstein list is anti Israel now.

>>213119865
>testimony

You mean the skin lamps? The masturbation machines?

>>213119900
>skin lamps
That's not even a Jewish testimony, heh. Also, according to the Buchenwald museum they were real.

>>213119865
I'm saying that you are making up a story when you say there are "thousands of documents that prove it happened." There are no documents. ALSO the only actual evidence of atrocities is fiction. Only a fucking retarded child would believe the logistics alone are possible

>>213119806
>you believe in some grand conspiracy that was able to forge thousands of documents but for some reason was unable to forge actual Hitler's order

It's more insane to think that 6 million people disappeared from the face of the earth in a coordinated effort by Germans, from a pile of shoes and "eyewitness" testimonies, with no landfills of bodies or cremation tactics, by, for some oddball reason, providing them with facilities to breed, do paid labor and get access to recreational sectors, such as swimming pools and plays

>>213115456 (OP)
>I can't believe this actually happened
it did and not just the jews, all catholic polish middle classvictims ,the roma and many others

>>213119921
No but the "Germans ripping newborns from mothers arms and throwing them in the air for machine gun target practice" is. You fucking pussy

>>213119842
>the truth of the holocaust is irrelevant in 2025
That's why the Jews keep using it to dismantle every valid bit of criticism and justify killing tens of thousands

>>213119925
>It's more insane to think that 6 million people disappeared from the face of the earth in a coordinated effort by Germans
Far more tha that were wiped out especially after the order for general extermination of Poles.