Thread 213117657

If Saruman could make his voice be heard anywhere, like he did when he created the mountain storm, then why did Gandalf ride around on a horse like a fucking idiot rather than just conveying messages to people through the invisible speakers in the sky?

>>213117657 (OP)
>This town might be big enough.. big enough..
>For both of us!

One does not simply question lotr lore

>>213117657 (OP)
>I need to deliver an important message to my allies!
>should I just go to them by horse and deliver it privately or just scream really loud so even sauron can hear about it?

>>213118006
Even by modern military and intelligence standards it's always assumed that your adversaries have access to your communications, which is why codes have been used by armies for several thousand years. Even the Spartans used it in their communications.

Gandalf should have just left some scrolls in Rohan and Gondor for them to decode whatever codes he sent over the sky speaker

>>213118347
This becomes extra funny when you find out that when Tolkien served in WWI, he did so as a signals officer, with expertise in battlefield communications. Yet he didn't think of Gandalf using the sky speakers to send coded ommunications to his allies instead of zigzaging around like a fucking doordash driver

>>213117657 (OP)
>If Saruman could make his voice be heard anywhere
Where does LOTR ever say this? Isengard was close to the Pass of Caradhras, that's why he could project his voice that far.

>>213118347
>just leave scrolls in Gohan and Rondor which have either been compromised by palantir or overrun by orcs

He wasnt relaying a message, he was basically putting a spell on the mountain which was a magical ability he was particularly known for

>>213118936
>Isengard was only 250 miles from Caradhras, that's why he could project his voice that far

Unironically, the wizards have limited mana and long cool down for spells. It's why Gandalf could only use his shield spell then lightning sword against the Balrog. Same as Saruman's telekinesis and voice projection.

>>213119584
>voice projection
Calling in the storm and avalanche-causing, directed lightning were a bit heftier than just ventriloquism on the wind.

>>213119761
His "voice" is his supernatural ability of persuasion

>>213119355
And far how is Isengard from the Shire, Mirkwood, Emyn Muil, or Mordor? The point is that there's no reason to think that Saruman can be heard anywhere in Middle Earth.

>>213117657 (OP)
this was one of my favorite shots in the entire trilogy

>>213119320
Why didn't Ganandorf just put a talking spell on the person he wanted to send information to then?

It's an invention of the film. The mountain is just impassable because of the weather in the book, with some implications that the mountain itself is fighting against them (although it's not explicit and could be read as metaphor). Saruman has nothing to do with it.

>>213120050
The mountain is an angry spirit in the book and it doesn't like people on it. And in the movie, Saruman is just calling to wake it up and piss it off.

>>213118347
>There is a fell cipher in the air

>>213121471
Windtalkers?

>>213120154
tolkien said it was sarumon

>>213119942
I like the River Isen in the background experiencing an algae bloom from Rohan's agricultural runoff

>>213117657 (OP)
Because that's the way JRR wrote it dumbass. When YOU write some books people are still talking about in 100 years, maybe they'll listen. Until then just stfu.

>>213117657 (OP)
lotr is a children's book that manchildren take seriously because it aligns to their chud values of Black people not existing and middle eastern migrants being evil savages

>>213117657 (OP)
Sarumon and Gandalf were two different characters, it's like asking why Gimli didn't use a bow since Legolas did