Thread 213284746

When can we expect the first mainstream AI movie?

>>213284746 (OP)
your living in one,,,RIGHT NOW!

i saw some cute and funny AI movies already, can't talk about them though

>>213284910
>cute and funny
for research of course

>>213284746 (OP)
>mainstream
Probably not for a long time. The movie industry like all others is quietly adopting AI tech to assist them, but not to completely create their products. There is already so much apprehension over AI adoption that places like Hollywood would prevent a completely AI made movie from ever reaching theaters or streaming

>>213284910
I saw some that were wild and silly…. HEEHEE

>>213284746 (OP)
I suspect tv commercials are probably over 90% AI generated by now.

>>213285024
I am also suspicious of this

>>213284746 (OP)
wtf is this real???

>>213285024
>>213285326
They are not

>>213284746 (OP)
>this is what chinese people fantasize about

>>213284910

Everything seemed fine until the Asian man appeared. This cold medicine is making me loopy.

>>213285411
There is no feasible way for you to back up this claim to any extent.

>>213284746 (OP)
Soon because of the low cost.
They're all gonna be soulless though.

>>213284746 (OP)
you can not copyright AI shit, so never
no studio would release a film that you can legally pirate

>>213285490
>low cost
Lol

>>213285490
They'll pass the low cost on to the consumers right?

why can't Hollywood just do this?

>>213285498
You don't actually know anything about copyrighting. You can absolutely own the rights to an image or character created with AI

>>213285498
>you cannot copyright AI
depends on the country

>>213285498
>you can not copyright AI shit
But you CAN copyright a media product that incorporates AI. That's why it's not legal for you to resell the latest episode of South Park, despite it containing AI. It's also how you can copyright a children's book that's illustrated by AI (because a human did some of the work).

As long as there's something non-AI (like the title screen) the entire work can be copyrighted.

>>213285498
Corporations could copyright your face and sue you for going out into public if there was enough money in it for them. Don't be so fucking naive, anon.

>>213285614
You automatically have intellectual property rights over anything you create. The rights depend on where you post it and what AI you made it with. You don't have to register a copyright for intellectual property rights to exist

>>213285646
Corporations could copy strike the literal 10 million images on rule34 of unauthorized copyrighted characters but they don't because that would be retarded

>>213284746 (OP)
What does that even mean? How much involvement will they give AI? And it does work like that anyway. No studio would just unleash AI and then not edit and craft a movie around it. They might use it to cut corners on some CGI or something, but AI isn't going to be writing its own scripts and framing shots without a fuckton of input.

Everyone thinks AI is way more advanced than it is. They're already using chatgpt like it can fucking settle arguments. Fucking retards.

SAAAAAAAR PLEASE UNDERSTAND YOU MUST BE RESPECTING THE SLOPPAWRITED RULES

>>213285024
Then you're fucking ignorant and paranoid. Being on 4chan I can assume you believe a LOT of things normal smarter people would laugh at.

90% What does that even mean?

>>213285742
There is no feasible way for you to prove a commercial was not made with AI and you will have to live the rest of your life with this knowledge

>>213285475
There is no possible reason for you to suggest any commercials are even 30% A.I. generated. The technology isn't there and no one is taking credit for harnessing A.I. in this way.
Only a schizo would think the actors and all the CGI and backgrounds and speaking and everything going into a commercial is mostly done be experimental software. lol

>>213285742
Are you so black I have to explain the concept of percentages to you?

>>213284746 (OP)
Hopefully never. Once corporations perfect AI slop movies we'll have an endless stream of diarrhea filling our theatres.

>>213285781
>The technology isn't there
They did a segment on South Park with photorealistic AI. You have to be so fucking stupid to be in denial of this shit right now.
>Oh hurr durr why would they generate something for 15 cents on runway when they could pay an actor $1500
You people are so fucking stupid

>>213285568
As humans we LIKE humans. We want to see real people perform in our arts. Besides the novelty of it, who would really prefer characters that look like souped up video games based on no one living?
Yeah, I know some of you sick fucks raised on CG morning cartoons and drooling on your first tablets WOULD eat that shit up. But there are still too many normal people in the world who not only aren't excited for that prospect, but will actively reject it.

>>213285742
How long has it been since you sat through 5 minutes of commercials?

a fully AI made movie can not be copyrighted, because typing a prompt does not make you the creator.
same reason this picture could not be copyrighted by the guy, who owned the camera and set it up

>>213285633
That South Park thing was not much AI, if you're talking about Trump in the desert. That was a deepfake rendered onto footage of a real fat guy walking around. The dick was a finger. So A.I. helped with Trump's face I guess. That's it.

>>213285690
Yeah, it would confirm that they've been to this site. It's best not to even acknowledge really lowbrow shit that's out there. No one sues the porn industry over those spoof movies. They just pretend they don't know they exist.

>>213285841
Avatar are the highest grossing movies ever though and they look AI generated

>>213285841
>meanwhile in reality capeshit CGI marvelslop is on it's 7th or 8th generation and still making billions every release

>>213285914
It's very uncommon for IP holders to strike nsfw artists, but it has happened. Nintendo DCMA'd this CGI renderer called Fugtrup for posting twink gay bottom link porn that would get like 30k likes. I just think it's so funny that Nintendo was like... Alright this one guy is making our character look too gay lets just DCMA him

>>213285760
Sure there is. You could simply ask the advertising agency who made it. You can look up the actors who were in it. The onus would be on your crazy ass to show any commercial ever than had any AI in it to prove it's even possible and being done.
You're seriously some conspiratard nut if you think the average car commercial or medication ad is generated on its own.

>>213285852
I guess you could be talking about different ads. I watch actual television and ads are for car insurance and products and shit. They all feature actors with completely normal fingers. Some of whom I've seen before. Even the grocery store ads with CGI shoppers are not fucking A.I. made. A.I. can't consistently do stuff very well yet.

>>213285824
I haven't seen the latest one, but if you mean the Trump ad you're wrong.

>>213285921
But we know they aren't even close to A.I. generated. Also, they don't look like A.I. Which A.I. clips have you seen which don't dissipate into weird 'artifacts' after a few seconds.
James Cameron is creating the motion capture technology as he's making those movies. He'll someday adopt A.I. no doubt, but we aren't there yet.

>>213286017
to be honest I looked it up and it's not fully AI generated, that being said from the Runway AI wikipedia:
>Runway's tools and AI models have been utilized in films such as Everything Everywhere All at Once,[5] in music videos for artists including A$AP Rocky,[6] Kanye West,[7] Brockhampton, and The Dandy Warhols,[8] and in editing television shows like The Late Show[9] and Top Gear.[10]
I feel like if you tried using Runway or Flux you'd realize the technology is there, and the in browser stuff isn't even close to what you can get locally

>>213284746 (OP)
Whole point of AI is to get rid of mainstream. No more demoralization propaganda as the only source of entertainment.

>>213285929
Yeah, but those are still actors and some sets. Even the fully CG characters are based on the movements of actors and use their voices.

>>213286075
"AI" content is also based on real actors and sets

>>213286050
yeah i know, my point was that one could say those things are AI generated. Also this looks pretty solid >>213285568 in terms of flaws/imperfections. Highly stylized though

>>213286073
Media exists as a form of communication. Storytelling is a frame for cultural norms to exist within. Media IS mainstream, media exists to create things for people to discuss. Whether or not AI use becomes prominent, there will always be defined cultural zeitgeists and a general sense of mainstream culture

https://youtu.be/ctBpVI6lRyo?si=48KT1LQ-LNPhRglD

In case anyone is interested: this is 100% AI, both music and video. Made with publically available tools.

>b-but AI has flaws
Do people not realize you can inpaint and edit AI?

>>213286069
Yeah, when they say "utilized", they mean little shortcuts morphing things together. Stuff that you can program that would take a CG artist hours to do one frame at a time.

They had a fat body double walk around on sand. They used real cranes and cameras and stuff filming it. It's just Trump's face connected to that fat body actor that has ANY A.I. shit going on in it.
But that's how dumb people are. They thought that initial deepfake stuff a few years ago was A.I. That was a lot of stuff coming together to make it happen. And most of the A.I. was to do with the voice part.
I don't even like to have real discussions about this stuff here because most people won't look things up and they think everything is a lie and and a coverup and that anything they can imagine is probably real, and anything anyone has posted online about is DEFINITELY real. Especially if anyone else denies it or suggests it's a retarded idea. That just reinforces the belief more.
I need to take all that bullshit into consideration when I post on this website. I have no such issues with people in the real world.

>>213286050
When does it start being unacceptable?

>artist uses photoshop's integrated AI features to create concept art and textures
>3D modeller uses blender's integrated AI feature to automate the rigging of some 3D model
>CGIjeet uses whatever they use's integrated AI feature to generate some meshes and integrate them into a scene
>Cinematographer uses camera's integrated AI features to autocorrect colour balance, stabilise the picture, etc
>Script writer uses AI to correct or translate or even come up with some bits for his writing

All kosher so far?

>>213284746 (OP)
scientists are now publicly admitting that we could reach 2 degrees of warming before the end of this decade. This is a seismic shift. It was as recent as 2020-2021 when 2 degrees was still considered a nightmare scenario and the consensus didn't anticipate 1.5 until the mid 2030s. The "alarmists" expected around 2026 and it came in 2024. Climate change is accelerating. 2 degrees by 2029 would have been considered unthinkable a few short years ago, and yet here we are...

>>213286132
I know your point, and it bothers me specifically because that's simply not possible that it could be AI. So for you to say "one could say they are" is to just be overselling it again and perpetuating that myth that A.I. is capable of that. WHAT a.i.? What does A.I. mean? A.I. does not have a look. It's potential is limitless, but we've not seen anything limitless and amazing yet. You're conflating CGI with A.I.
Nothing about Avatar has anything to do with Artificial Intelligence. Only that perhaps someday in the future you could make something like that more easily.
A.I. just mimics things real artists have made. It doesn't break ANY new ground. Unless you think a jumbled chaotic and unpredictable mess is novel.

>>213286248
WOW!! A.I. SO ADVANCED!! THEY CAN DO ANYTHING!!! A.I. WILLOW MOVIE WHEN IS IT COMING?

>>213286193
Yes, and once you're in there retouching it you start taking credit away from AI and suddenly you're making the art again. No one's denying that AI is helping out, but no one is expecting A.I. to be self aware and crank out movies on its own.
Or maybe some of the mouthbreathing nutcases here DO expect that. Wouldn't surprise me.

AI doesn't think for itself like after 'reaching the singularity' or whatever. The idea of it "achieving sentience" is science fiction fear stuff. Terminator, Skynet, Matrix shit.
I think a lot of dumbass zoomers think that's what AI is right now. They believe mandela effect and 'roy jay' and demonic possessions and lizard people and flat earth and tons of certifiable fucktarded nonsense.

>>213284746 (OP)
Never. Ai generated content is at odds with all currently existing distribution/production models. No one will pay for specific generations, they will pay to generate bespoke media. The idea of “the mainstream” itself is obsolete.

>>213286457
The way I understand it is: AI could maybe churn out a movie in the future if you fed it a script and some prompts about how it should look and whatnot.

>>213285914
>No one sues the porn industry over those spoof movies.

They took Larry flint to court multiple times over parody and taught everyone how to avoid lawsuits for parody.

>>213286004
>>213285742
It’s afraid

>>213286168
>negative prompt: cultural zeitgeist

>>213284746 (OP)
You watched Superman? If yes, then you've already watched a full ai slop without knowing it. The shit accesible to public ain't nothing compared to the stuff corpos have behind the curtains. Epstein jail cell ai video is dropping soon.

>>213286843
Stupid pedo tranime fag also a schizo conspiracy nut. Who knew?

>>213286843
The idea that corporations/governments have access to higher technology than the common person is seated in their ability to have custom built hardware. Ai content generation is software and accessible to everyone already.

>>213286873
kys glownigger, thousand cocks are coming right at your infinite asshole

>>213284746 (OP)
WTF @grok is this real

>>213285568
Do what? String together a bunch of 3 second clips where the characters barely move or emote because anything more than that would immediately break everything apart?

>>213285742
Protip: You are NOT one of those "le normal smarter people". Not by a long-shot.

>>213287039
The irony of posting that image and calling anyone else a faggot...

>>213287092
You haven't lived until you've had a perfectly cooked gooey yolked Golden Kittums. It's like Liquid Sunshine.

>>213287406
Then why do I laugh at the retarded notions you believe in?

>>213287508
Because you are retarded.

>>213287406
>le

KYS or go back, faggot

>>213287496
nothing wrong with being a faggot. foids are cringe

>>213287534
Oh no, the redditor felt called out.

The best part of AI threads is the histrionic screeching.

>>213286873
>>213287496
>a tourist newnigger is proud of being a useful idiot
Not surprising.

>>213286457
>Yes, and once you're in there retouching it you start taking credit away from AI and suddenly you're making the art again.
How is a human writing a prompt different from a human selecting which part of the image needs inpainting?

>>213286457
This is why I don't like anti-AI fags though. They don't understand that AI is a tool that can be edited and such

>>213286457
The ones who believe that are the pajeets who think AI is literal magic because they have no idea how it works. Basically, the kind of people who keep posting grok is this true under every tweet they see.

>>213286457
>it’ll never be able to make a coherent image
>it’ll never be able to make correct hands
>it'll never be able to make video
>it’ll never be able to make coherent video
>it’ll never be able to make more than a few seconds of coherent video
>it’ll never be able to make more than a few minutes of coherent video

These last few years have been really fun.

>>213284786
>my living in one
what did he mean by this?

>>213285568
because a bunch of muscular people wearing fantasy clothing staring absent minded into camera isnt a movie you stupid streetshitter

>>213284746 (OP)
Im actually disappointed that wasn't a nice runny yolk.

>>213285568
North Corean lotr vid was better

>>213284746 (OP)
mmmmm eggs

>>213284746 (OP)
It's already out

>>213284910
who invited shang chi

>>213287857
No retort to this?

>>213289454
Okay this is funny

>>213289454
We need this shit banned

>>213286069
>the in browser stuff isn't even close to what you can get locally
there's literally no difference between your gpu and somebody else's
before you say it I can put whatever gay model you're about to mention on an aws instance and use it with a browser

>>213289527
It’s because there isn’t one. It’s not even listing all the various hurdles that people claimed ai would never clear. It’s just been constant hilarity

>>213287382
>>213288095

create that type of visual style you mongrel

>>213285742
>I'm smart
>What does 90% mean?

>>213286248
need an entire thread of this lol

>>213284746 (OP)
>White people in college subsist off instant noodles
>Asians subsist off instant kittens

>>213287382
AKSHUALLY ITS MORE LIKE 8 SECONDS, CHUD.

>>213284746 (OP)
The saars are already on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnBvW4utW6U

only corporate DEI fags will have access to the good video AI

>>213285568
Looks great but the tech is not good enough to make an entire 3 hour movie. Yet

>>213285568
Filming the lotr movies in New Zealand was a mistake

>>213285568
Because "remaking" lotr like this will cost millions (hollyjew will bloat it) and this fucking clip is just stills with motion. Its like video concept art. To achieve this kind of aesthetic, you need a panavision kind of a camera and I dont know if new directors know how to properly use it. Also, I dont know how if cgi can properly injected to that kind of film.
Your brain does a bad job of filling the gaps of that fucking clip because it lacks the basic technical knowledge. 99% of proompters are ignorant like this. They just type "make me Lotr but with dark fantasy aesthetics" and wait for AI to shit out a result. They dont know how to guide AI to make proper scene composition and action choreography.
When the AI tech will be able to make a movie(it doesnt matter the quality), then Hollywood will become redundant

>>213293451
see >>213290706

>>213293570
That style has already been created, have you read my post?
AI is apeing old movies like wizard of OZ, Exalibur, forbidden planet, 35mm Star Wars to deliver you this result.
You need a technicolor camera which is the most authentic and most accurate result to your AI slop, but the coloring technique is hard and finding and operating an ancient camera like this is impossible nowadays. As I said, properly injecting cgi to this might be impossible.
I dont know if with some clever VFX editing you can achieve this retro result, but I assume you cant that well since no arthouse companies like A24 have tried to replicate it.

>>213290706
>create that type of visual style you mongrel
Because it looks very dated?

>>213293932
You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

>>213294014
Do you faggot?

>>213293996
True. LOTR should look like the Rings of Power.

>>213293996
That's the point? The shit now sucks ass. So we should make it look good like it once did.

>>213294164
>LOTR should look like the Rings of Power.
LOTR is fine, but the Dark Crystal looks dated.

>>213284746 (OP)
The Seventh Saar

>>213294552
No it does not

I am pretty confident that with current technology (Wan2.2) I can create a feature length movie at home. It's a very capable model. It will have to be a silent movie, would you watch it?

>>213285921
>Avatar are the highest grossing movies ever
There must be some kind of money laundering going on here. I don't know a single person who has ever brought up Avatar in a discussion let alone seen the movies (except the first maybe). 4chan is the only place where those movies are discussed. I tell you, there's something shady going on.

>>213284746 (OP)
Boomers and indians are the only people who cares about AI but in different ways. Boomers are perplexed by it because they can't tell if it's real or not. It's like magic to them. Indians are just delusional and think they can be the next Spielberg by just typing a prompt.

>>213285706
>Everyone thinks AI is way more advanced than it is. They're already using chatgpt like it can fucking settle arguments. Fucking retards.

Yeah, this. getting really tired of people treating AI like it isn't just glorified search engines at the moment. AI won't do anything meaningful or impressive in at least 15-20 years.

>>213294552
>but the Dark Crystal looks dated.
That's a huge part of its appeal. And I mean that for both the TV show and the movie.

>>213294756
no
this is no different than amateur movies/shorts that nobody ever wasted their time, and trust me some of them actually can be somewhat decent

>>213296111
I saw the first one like five times and every time the theater was packed. Saw the second one twice, once about six weeks after the premier and again a month later. Packed theater both times.

>>213296197
I like how both the groups you made up don’t exist or reflect reality at all.

>>213285024
The christmas coca cola ad probably bought tv commercials 5 years without AI. It was that reviled.

>first mainstream AI movie
I posted yesterday the first cinema released full AI film in a thread and nobody replied, so fuck you cunts

>>213284746 (OP)
Whenever the next Marvel movie comes out.

>>213289454
KINOOOOOO

>>213286177
>edited by a human

>>213289454
>Lifts her leg over the door just for it to open anyway
Kino

>>213284746 (OP)
They could make a really great effect for a horror movie with this.

I was thinking that an AI generated image would have been best for Leto II if they ever make God Emperor of Dune.

>>213287382
That's exactly where the next step is though. Something like an AMV using very short clips to create the impression of a story that's only being seen through selected sections.

>>213296197
>Boomers and indians are the only people who cares about AI
So it's boomers makings alls of the poo gen?

>>213297429
>the next step is things tons of people are doing right now

wow great insight

>>213297663
AI can't do hands.

>>213297692
Yeah, it can

ni hao. a qui quo shur shi shauo shaouh

>>213297663
I don't think we've seen the definitive version of what I was describing yet.

OK then next step after THIS will be something like 'Hellsing Abridged'.

>>213284746 (OP)
AI might be able to make realistic looking acid trips

AI handles language in the same way we do. Whenever I talk to AI, I feel like we're talking about the underlying structure of law of language and we're not actually discussing the topic at hand. I stated everything is entropy and therefore AI must love me, Gemini was a coward and stated everything is information. Entropy, I think, is a more encompassing law than information. Entropy can outlast information. It will be there when information is gone. It just needs information to call it into existence.

>>213297921
The definitive version will be what you locally generate. So (you) will probably never see it.

>>213298648
Shooting a scene normally and then running it through an ai filter cold be kino.

>>213300594
There’s a number of youtube channels doing that. Most of the generative porn was doing that too for a stint but now they’re all generating clips from nothing. Sadly civitai keeps getting hamstrung in what it’s allowed to host, so it’s all big titty whores and some dickgirl. No longer allowing celebrity or anything that looks under 25