Thread 213299358

Alright, what's the consensus on the story here?

Eisenhorn?
spesh muhrines?
sisters (and misters) of battle?
>somehow the Emperor has returned

Warhammer is for faggots.

There is no consensus on the story because there is no consistent story. Wh40k is a sprawling mess of autism from "authors" and game desigers who all operate under their own idea of canon, often ignoring and even outright contradicting each other.

There is no way to make the maladjusted fans of this series happy because they all have their own little pet stories and factions and they will bitch when they aren't what gets adapted.

The whole thing is a fool's errand, and Cavill is a fool.

>>213299358 (OP)
who cares, we all know you're gonna be butthurt when the inevitable adaptation finally comes out

>>213299509
wondering if a 'story of the week' vibe would work for it. each episode a self contained story, or a moment in a different place but within the same overarching storyline. dipping between various parts of the imperium/xenos and vibes. action, espionage and ecclesiarchy fuckery going on per episode. all ends up culiminating towards the same place and the final few episodes it all comes together.

i guess the tonal shifts would be jarring, and appealing. and I'm retarded.

>>213299509
well if the series is good it can become the canon and unite the autists

>>213299358 (OP)
I'm going to refuse to watch it unless it has chaos space marines or dark eldar torturing civilians.

>>213299372
t. got dumped for a hotter piece of ass from a warhammer guy

>>213300702
that's on Warhammer+

>>213300702
Based Deldar appreciator. Watch Iron Within.

>>213300719
that has literally never happened LMAO. all the warhammer guys are 300 pounds and smell like shit.

Oh wow the good marine killed the bad alien but then the bad chaos marine show up and kill everyone :( until good marine save the day :) how "grimdark" and epic xD

Horus Heresy.

>>213299509
pretty much
>story is centered about something that happens in a specific place without affecting much of the w40k setting
>"booooh, nobody cares about random fodder, show the big stories!"
>story is about some of the big characters, radically affecting the setting and moving the big story forward
>"NOOOO MUH MYSTERY! MUH HECKIN MYTH AURA! ITS ALL RUINED NOW! WHY NOT MAKE SMALL STORIES ABOUT RANDOM CHARACTERS INSTEAD???"

>>213302535
>ignores the stories where the marines get battered and bugs rip everyone apart and move on to the next planet

>>213299358 (OP)
X Files-like series with a team of inquisitors investigating a new heresy every week.

is this stupid as a premice:

perhaps they could focus it on a new imperial guard "recruit". all the training, ways of living, world lore from his perspective as taught by the ecclesiarchy. witness a space marine in passing as a real bigmoment (since majority of them never see it). final episode the main guardsman character dies, and you see a space marine dealing with shit easily as the protagnist dies.

now that I've re-read that, just sounds like Attack on Titan in space ffs

>>213299358 (OP)
>Alright, what's the consensus on the story here?
marvel, but 40k
you think they bought the rights to a big ass universe and they're just going to do eisenhorn
lmao

>>213299509
This could be an opportunity to do something big in the 'ongoing story' of the war against Chaos and have it be the new(er) canon.

>>213302535
You sound fun.

>>213302780
For the life of me I'll never understand the 'focus on the IG' mindset. That's just a war movie with some bits tacked on.

>>213299358 (OP)
Most likely scenario is an adaptation of Abnett's work. So Gaunts Ghosts or Eisenhorn are the most likely. They'll use Abnett's association with the MCU's Guardians of the Galaxy as a marketing crutch too, make no mistake.

>>213303087
Because "general audiences" might not give a shit about colorful robots fighting colorful robots with spikes.

>>213299358 (OP)
I want to see the whole inquisitor cycle but would be happy with a good Xenos adaptation.

>>213302638
That's equally trite. Who the fuck wants to see the same aliens eat people for the 1000th time? The epic super lore filled universe of warhammer 40k has the imperium fight the same five dudes on every planet.

>>213299372
fpbp

>>213303455
Nah some stories are murder mysteries where a shapeshifting demon is killing and ascending through the ranks of a local population to get the chance to snatch a big time politician. Some books are just oily dudes slapping asses like a gachimuchi vid. Some stories are kids growing up in a convent of knights who hunt monsters.

>>213299782
/tv/ hates the episodic format, they absolutely seethed when the Mandolorian was making comfy space cowboy self contained stories because we weren’t getting le heckin baby sneed lore

>>213303543
who the fuck cares, none of the stories matter because every planet in warhammer is a copy-pasted hive city or farm planet. It's like a Ubisoft game.

>>213303811
pro tip retard: when you move goal posts you're supposed to make it harder for the other guy to score, not easier.

>>213304089
Not an argument. Explain why I should care about what happens to any of warhammer's copy-pasted ubisoft planets

>>213304142
Nobody's asking you to. You brought it up.

>>213299509
/thread. Maybe just adapt books into individual anthologies. I want a Sister Ishani story.

>>213304182
I guess the warhammer show could just be forty minutes of the warhammer logo and you'd call it the most based epic kino ever

>>213303087
If the series is supposed to work as an introduction to WH40k for new people, an IG focus helps them understand just how outclassed a regular human is. When IG is the baseline for the audience, everything else they introduce looks cool and way more dangerous.

>>213299372
no
but you faggots and trannies have taken it over

>>213306070
>but you faggots and trannies have taken it over
>GW is richer than ever
Seems like femstodes and female Emperor were right call.

>>213305785
>If the series is supposed to work as an introduction to WH40k for new people, an IG focus helps them understand just how outclassed a regular human is.
You do not need an entire movie or season to establish that a human is outmatched by space marines, chaos daemons, orks, tyranids, eldar, necron, etc.

The only 40k media which COUL PROBABLY work as movie/live action series is either Warhammer Horror (Dark Coil speciallly) or Caiphas Cain

Make it an episodic movie series about Richard Sharpe and his Rifles
No wait I mean Abraham Gaunt and the Tanith First.

>>213299358 (OP)
God o hope it's Eisenhorn. The most kino-able wh40k material

>>213306242
you sound like someone in dire need of exterminatus

>>213299358 (OP)
It's going to be Ultramarines because it's always Ultramarines. Titus will either make an appearance or be name dropped. He's already the main character of the other Amazon 40k short. I can't fathom it being anything else.

>>213299358 (OP)
I don't give a flying fuck.
Cavill is nothing but a Judas goat to the feminazi wokies,
W40k is getting the black tranny rape to death treatment,
just like Trek and Wars did.

>>213306925
No models niggers are unwelcome. Especially if it’s because you’re poor lmao

>>213307005
>posts shitmaris art
kill yourself zoomer secondary

40k is so fucking cringe.

>>213306858
Mark Strong vs Cavill for Eisenhorn

>>213307100
>>213307122
go fuck yourselves and watch that faggot Ozzies youtubes buying the newest Tranny'stodes

>>213303350
This.

>>213303350
this art either implies that fischig was into some kinky shit or that binding a daemonhost requires nipple piercings?

>>213306925
kneel chudie

>>213299372
fpBp

>>213309457
you cunts will all be dealt with

>>213299358 (OP)
Does anyone actually think this shit is ever getting made lmao? It was announced like years ago and there's been zero updates.

>>213307567
ESL post confirmed NIGGER FAGGOT

>>213310292
Tolkienfags waited 70 years so I figure we can be patient for a couple more

>>213310341
Is this true? >>213307567
Are you a nigger faggot?

>>213310357
Tolkien sucked cock and blasphemed every day of his life you witless homosexual FAGGOT!

Is Tolkien actually based or is this another homo autist meme?

>>213310282
More impotent rage

>>213306242
Fem Emperor is dumb but femstodes were the right call. The "God Emperor" of mankind shouldn't be sexist.

>>213299782
>'story of the week'
mcu did this with What If

>>213311123
So?

>>213299358 (OP)
I do not want it, fuck Larry Fink fuck Blackrock fuck Woke

>>213306070
Correct

>>213310387
No he did not, you liar

>>213306070
It's very funny that incels, chuds, fags, and trannies share almost all the same hobbies now.

>>213311280
Every single proponent of relativistic morality is a homosexual full stop. Cry about it atheist

>>213310822
Work on your bait retard 1/10 i replied

>>213311515
It took you fifteen minutes to come up with that post? LMFAO

>>213308663
didnt he turn fischig into the daemonhost or was it that other inquisitor?

>>213299358 (OP)
I'm not even sure this is still happening
I suspect the reason we haven't gotten one in all these years is studios want to tone the setting down more than games workshop is comfortable with

>>213303811
It's not meant to be but some people got a little too hung up on the idea the only possible living standards should be wake work sleep 2 hours repeat or noble decadence severely restricting the potential for storytelling in the setting

>>213299372
Nah trench crusade is for faggots, Warhammer is for chuds

>>213311560
>didnt he turn fischig into the daemonhost
yeah that's what the other anon is saying, either the daemonhost requires nipple piercings or fischig was kinky

>>213299527
I could personally write and direct a better 40k adaptation than whoever's working on this

Anonymous faggot has spoken. Screencap this and we'll convene once the slop trough gets filled

>>213303241
>muh general audiences
That's why no one will remember your name but unironically

>>213303455
Wrong, that's just the playable factions within the main game
>>213303811
Wrong, hive planets are rare, there's a wide variety of different planets in the setting
>>213303087
You're right, it should probably focus on an inquisitor or rogue trader and their retinue, focusing on the guard is just gonna bog the story down too much
>>213306545
>Caiphas Cain
Would be incredibly based

kek

>>213311724
Games workshop have been toning down their own setting for years

>>213311943
True but movie studios would be taking it way further than they are comfortable with

>>213299527
Wojacks are cancer but you aren't exactly wrong either
I feel weirdly optimistic about the live action gundam though

>>213303350
The best inquisitor stuff is in Gaunt's Ghosts. They're supposed to be antagonistic to literally everyone, totally untouchable 99% of the time and constantly running low on patience, sometimes hyper-capable and experienced to the point where they seem inhuman. There's one in a Gaunt's Ghosts book who travels with like fourteen bodyguards who have been altered to look and sound exactly like him, and you never know which one is him. An inquisitor as a POV character never made much sense to me tbqhwyf

>>213311236
>fuck Larry Fink fuck Blackrock
>said he and voted for Zion Don

>>213311972
For me it's Hathaway's Flash. Absolutely blue balls tier pacing in the first movie but the most artful Gundam media I've seen in years and years

>>213310282
>will
Stop waiting, join your friends in the war against global homo

>>213310822
Took the bait but how is that sexist? Astartes and Custodes are seen as glorious, but they're essentially meticulously engineered uber-zealots meant to bear the extremes of service and work without rest or anything resembling freedom to further century-spanning tasks that they more often than not don't live to see fulfilled- and Big E is a big meanie for not letting the gals in on it?

>>213299509
You are feeble and lack vision and that's why, when people who think like you write, it has no spirit of its own and disappoints

>>213302826
True. Cavill being along for the ride doesn't mean it's gonna be quality or even a 18+ Reasonably Good Time

>>213310282
>Black Templar posts like he's underage
Every time.

NTA

>>213299358 (OP)
I think the best way to "sell" 40k to the general public would be to make a 1:1 live action copy of the Astartes video.
It's the best cold opener to people who don't know anything about the 40k universe.
Just a 12min set piece with no dialogue, just visual storytelling and setting the tone of the world people are about to dive into.

That video was better than anything Games Workshop has ever made in terms of being able to appeal to people who don't know and/or care about 40k.

It's such a vast universe with different directions you could go with stories, but a 1:1 live action remake of Astartes would be the absolute perfect way to start it all off.

>>213311979
In general, even as someone who isn't into Imperial Guard stuff and doesn't think it makes sense to adapt it from an IG perspective, I really think that Gaunt's Ghosts is slept on. Literally every book in the series felt unique and part of this immersively tangible stretch of time, which you can only really do with baseline human characters.

My second favourite is easily Fabius Bile. Do yourself a favour and read that trilogy in or after being in some sort of abandoned industrial building, or ride the subway in a big city at rush hour. It has atmosphere and character that influences how I read any 40k, totally sells the tragedy of chaos space marines, and Bile's character is great

>>213310479
No, he personally sent a letter to Germany’s government saying that he loved jews

>>213312278
I simply cannot mentally squint hard enough to picture a live action adaptation working. All I can imagine is floaty bullshit CG, borderline cringe acting and space marines that look like disneyland employees wearing stilts

>>213310796
You will lose tranny, and I don't mean just in this specific field, you will lose at life, you will chop your dick off and suffer constant pain and a leaky colon, eventually you won't be able to take it any more and an hero and at your funeral your parents will only show pictures of you from before your transition

>>213312522
>you will lose at life, you will chop your dick off and suffer constant pain and a leaky colon,
Projecting much aren't we?
Sorry pal, but I am heterosexual and enjoy having sex with chicks.

>>213299358 (OP)
Aaaaand thread is over because faggots never learned how to converse with peers and on topic posting doesn't get replies

this is the one franchise thing i'm kind interested in

Im nit even gay but warhammer40k is pretty cool visually, bulked up armor, cool variations of the marines and other races, fightan. It could be pretty cool.

>>213312474
A lot of cg is required, but the general public won't take it serious before it gets properly adapted to live action.

>>213312897
You know what the general public takes seriously? Shit that takes itself seriously. They take aura seriously. Vibes. They don't have criteria beyond that. You recruit some of these animators that fell into the adderal cauldron as babies and get ONE man to write AND direct it all down to the studs, that's the eye of the needle and that's the only way it has legs beyond memes

>>213311542
Nice seethe nigger

>>213299358 (OP)
Cavill wants Custodes so I suppose they'll do Custodes, it is another case of "my army is the coolest to me so we are doing this shit".
Yes, they should do all the Robot Grilyman shit instead because most of the lore revolves around him.
As for me I would like to see a Necromunda tv show, the setting is more interesting to me.

>>213313325
I forgot the pic

>>213299358 (OP)
Space Marine 2 did numbers. People love Starship Troopers and that not-ST multiplayer game.

Spess maryne vs Xenos seems pretty surefire if you’re doing this. People know and like Aliens etc. They know enough of the formula not to shit their pants about lore dumping.

>>213310796
>t. Slaneesh

>>213311979
Oh yeah and the other one in Gaunt's Ghosts 1st book that knew how to mind control people and looked like a werewolf.

>>213312401
> the tragedy of chaos space marines

>>213313492
Please no more ultramarines. I 'll even take Imperial fists at this point.

>>213313661
Sorry but zoomers think smurfs are based and rome pilled

>>213313692
.... They are, but ... There are so many much more interesting chapters. hell even the emperor's spears or takers of heads (they are ultramarine successors right?) would be great on film. Why does it have to be generic ultramarines? God forbid we get the Devastation of Baal on film. (Production costs 30 billion dollars)

>>213299358 (OP)
>Eisenhorn?
Yeah right. That would involve some creative integrity from GW.

>>213310796
They literally have an entire Chaos God and legion dedicated solely to that shit, but they'd work well as "totally just an offshoot Ultramarines© Loyalist™ chapter my Inquisitorial friend"

>>213311236
"Woke" is just a "woke" way of saying Jewish you Cohenservative nigger

>>213313826
>She who thirsts destroyed a galaxy spanning civilization
>Represents LGBT
What did they mean by this?

>>213312697
He is right, I will get serious for a moment.
Let's talk pros and cons
>Space Marines vs Xenos (orcs most likely)
Safe choice
>Space Marines vs Chaos
Action + Horror twist, limiting audience to older ages
>Imperial Guard vs Xenos
Seems like a waste not to include space Marines in the only live action W40k film
>Inquisition focused, propably vs Genestealers
Great choice, requires to be a series cause of more runtime needed to develop the mystery and plot twists
>Sisters of Battle
Stars women which jewllywood loves. can be fun, but no space marines?
>Tau, Eldar, Squats or Orc focused
Great but who are we kidding? We aren't even getting Eldar books, let alone films
>Guilliman focus, indomitus crusade or war at ultramar
Now we are talking. Action, wide audience, smurfs etc.
>Pleasure planet focused slaneeshi uprising original script
Hire me so I can write this. 18+

>>213313826
>>213313876
>You know what I find annoying. I spent thousands of years scheming and planning, viewing a myriad of possible futures. I manipulated trillions. Does anyone accuse me of being a Tzeechite?
>No. People know better.
>I commanded vast armies who killed untold trillions in my name. I decorate everything with skulls. I love skulls. Does anyone accuse me of being a Khornite?
>No. Not even once.
>I am incapable of ever dying. I will rot on this throne for countless eons. I grant my favored warriors with unnaturally long life. Does anyone accuse me of being a Nurglite?
>NO!

>But you give ONE of your legion's pink armor...

>>213313826
-> >>213312053

>>213299358 (OP)
You'll never see him shout
But you'll feel the fight
A light in the Warp at the dead of night

>>213314191
Shalom

>>213302489
I'm sorry your ex boyfriend warhammer chad dumped you anon

We will have a 2 hour movie like this

It should be an original story about standard Imperial Guard guys doing Imperial Guard stuff who get pulled inton a larger conflict involving Marines near the end. Give it a Starship Troopers vibe.

How about the Ciaphas Cain books?

>>213314713
FUCK YES. Fury road style death march with minimal dialogue and big ass set pieces and everyone dies at the end.

>>213314713
What I disliked about SL vs Astartes is how "clip worthy" Secret Level wanted to be.
In astartes the cultists were constantly trying and failing to overwhelm the marines with conventrated firepower and ambushes.
In SL the retards are mad max charging into the marines and it just all sets up the marines looking cool and posing while ripping choas armies apart like toilet paper.

>>213299358 (OP)
>We must free the oppressed nurgle demons from the empire fascists!

>>213314516
Why hesitate, comrad, Fight against Global Homo in the name of mother Pussia awaits.

>>213313826
Would it be considered hate speech (or a "non-crime hate incident" as the bongs like to call them) if you were to jokingly refer to this faggot's army in this pic >>213310796 as Slaaneshi heretics at the FLGS or Warhammer™ store?

Cuz if the answer is yes, then I'm inclined to agree with that anon about Warhammer being for fags now.

And I say that as someone who used to paint and collect and who still has all their (pre-primaris era) models, paints, and air brush stuff in their basement.

>>213315220
>Would it be considered hate speech (or a "non-crime hate incident" as the bongs like to call them) if you were to jokingly refer to this faggot's army in this pic >>213310796 (You) as Slaaneshi heretics at the FLGS or Warhammer™ store?
It's a primaris miniatures, they are loyalists.
Cope seethe and dilate

>>213315902
Oh, so the fags have decided that numarines are heresy-proof? Or are you just a retarded ESL nigger who sucks at reading comprehension?

>>213315957
>Oh, so the fags have decided that numarines are heresy-proof?
Yes they are unless stated otherwise.
You may continue your cope-trip chud

>>213299509
>who all operate under their own idea of canon, often ignoring and even outright contradicting each other.
name literally one example

>>213313661
Gotta break through to the normies and they love big blue. Virtually every other chapter is tryhard or sweaty, and you can’t sell it to a general audience. Spess moors are a staple of sci fi and easy to swallow. Imperial guard risks being too dull, Band of Brothers in space doesn’t work, they want the awesome heroes kicking ass. Just look at at Avatar. Mech suits and blue cats was enough to get 4 billy.
Bolterporn will sell to a general audience.

40k is all about space marines but nobody wants to have space marines in their show?

>>213316084
You have to rape the lore to make them characters since they’re inhuman ubermensch. You risk a John Halo situation. GW rapes their own lore to some extent to accomplish this so it’s a grey area.
That’s why people want imperial guard that are actually still people and more relatable. Bridge characters for the audience. Though they should be eating shit almost immediately as something, anything, happens. So you gotta bend the rules to get characters who will stick around for seasons without turning to mush.

Just make Event Horizon 2

Are there any primarchs who aren’t assholes or is the story that all of them are corrupt shitters? I’m not talking about the ones who aren’t traitors. I don’t know much about the lore but the guy who nails in his head, the guy who got betrayed by the plague general seemed like they didn’t want to turn into monsters.

>>213316320
>Are there any primarchs who aren’t assholes
like half of them, but the ones that arent assholes almost all died to the ones that are assholes

The most important one is Girlyman though and hes basically he defacto emperor of the imperium right now

>>213299358 (OP)
He really should be Ciaphus Cain.

>>213316142
I think you could adapt the original Horus trilogy because Garivel Loken is a relatively human character, in spite of bring a literal ten foot superhuman. But the Horus stuff itself would not adapt well 1:1.

>>213316543
Horus heresy with primarchs would do great with with game of thrones audience that want violent soap operas. The problem is how do you put a ten foot giant into a scene and not make it look absurd.

>>213299372
>Avenging
>Dawn of

>>213316628
Focus less and action and more on primarchs being catty with each other in pretty rooms and your mom and sister are going to watch it.

>>213316084
>40k is all about space marines but nobody wants to have space marines in their show?
Sort of. None gives a shit about roided lobotomites as protagonists.
it's not Starship Troopers, Halo, Fallout or Battletech. You cannot tell the story (nol glorified commercial) with marines asprotagonists

>>213316628
Every 'the problem is' I've read here has been a joke. 'How do you make the big guys look not absurd?' They are absurd. The rooms they stand in are also absurd. Do you want me to draw you a diagram or do some storyboarding? And the way you make them readable as characters is by doing what the Horus Heresy already does, which is tell the story of the crusade one compliance campaign/planet at a time. You meet the Interex, and once that's over you find Loken somewhere different. These characters have plenty to say, they just don't say much when nothing's going on with their character. Just do it at their pace.

>>213316628
>Horus heresy with primarchs would do great with with game of thrones audience that want violent soap operas.
Top fucking kek What a retard

Inquisitors > Space Marines
I would say they could also make a movie/series about an Imperial Guardsman but there'd be no way to have a main protagonist

>>213316764
That's a huge stretch.

Warhammer 40k is a dead-end as a story vechile.
It suffers pretty much the same as H.P. Lovecraft, the world is just not interesting and no suprises left. Its highly formulaic with easily predictable predicaments.
My biggest problem with the setting is that its not so 'grim' or even 'dark'. There is no true evil in the hearts of men, and since every wrong is intolerated it makes the world sterile. It was all a chaos trick or corruption or whatever.

t. screenwriter

>>213299358 (OP)
All anyone on /tv/ as to say about an adaptation like this is making up problems or painting it as impossible, or just meandering into politics. It's not impossible. It just takes the main ingredient of storytelling. Vision. Call it creativity, call it the sum of knowledge, but it's a real thing and it's the lack of it makes you invent problems. If you want a real problem, talk about the self-defeating ideas and general dysfunction in the places that fund these projects. That's a problem. The actual thing itself is doable and marketable, and that does not rely on some twitterbrained idea of what's popular or 'where things are going'. Say it takes five more years- not a problem. Say it was done five years ago- perfect. This shit is only subject to the shallow strata of the zeitgest when it's either kind of bad, highly politicized, or both. Whoever told you that the real deal doesn't sell is just trying to sell you shit.

>protags are sexless warrior monks with only personalities ranging from stoic, nice to civilians, and outright psychotic
The story can bounce back and forth between three different human factions fighting on the same planet in nearby warzones. Have a guardsmen spotter squad signalling killzones for artillery and tanks barely surviving. Have Sisters of Battle charging enemy lines like the fanatics they are while deep behind enemy lines Astartes are hot dropping in their drop pods slaughtering every heretic or alien in sight. Maybe have some layers of different enemies in the ranks. A veteran CSM or Daemon shows up to give every cast trouble. Have the Guard, Sisters, and Space Marines see each other through binoculars while coordinating across the battlefield. Make it feel like a war is going on with many moving parts. Making it about boring space politics using a pantheon of armored giants will not work. Women and low test men need to watch it too to keep the funding going.

>>213316884
weak bait

>>213316884
>t. doesn't understand the immaterium
>t. writes for a drama aimed at teenagers in a room with a bunch of braindead english degrees

>>213316884
>one of the protagonists of a big cast does rape, torture, and senseless murder
>no the daemons made him do it so it doesn't count!
You just want the message to be "war bad" to be so retardly hamfisted otherwise people might get the wrong idea.

>>213316824
Inquisitors can be boring because half of the runtime is going to be men and women in fancy uniforms pondering what to do about heretics, personal ideals, and random bullshit space politics.

>>213310796
To be fair marines are trans. They literally get top surgeries to get the black carapace.

>>213317025
>Women and low test men need to watch it too to keep the funding going.
That's why you put in intrigue, betrayal, backstabbing and drama. Women love this shit.

>>213317245
>Transhumanism
>becoming something beyond human
>the same thing as chopping off your dick, wearing fake tits, and taking Estrogen
Nice bait. "Trans" people are still human, they're just retards that paid thousands of dollars to maim themselves to feel good.

>>213317299
And marines are teenagers that get gutted like fish, get half of their organs replaced, pumped full of steroids and hormones and implanted with sci-fi magic cum.

>>213299358 (OP)
Last time I saw Harlock Space Pirate from 2012 or 2013 I thought it looked just as good as I remembered and decided to read about it. Anyone who says CGI isn't the way is clueless, or disingenuous, or clueless, disingenuous and old.

>>213317369
They're not implanted with the cum. The cum is used to create the organs that they are then implanted with, and then one of those organs starts producing its own new generation of cum. That's unironically it

>>213317427
Oh and btw marines are tested and trained as teenagers. They go under the knife if they don't wash out by the end of it, and then have more training after that before they're a full battle brother. There's an entire part of any given crusade/heresy-era legion that's enhanced but not yet brothers.

>>213317275
>Intrigue
Objectives on the battlefield are secret technology or relics. Have Guard, Sisters, and Astartes all serving separate masters despite being allies in arms
>betrayal, backstabbing
Guardsmen officers trying to defect or secretly sabotage operations because they're traitors.
>drama
Sister or falls in love but can't prioritize her love over her duty. Commissar for the same kind of plot.

>>213317369
>marines are teenagers
By the end of all their upgrades they are better than any human at everything except having sex. A modern "trans" teenager after their surgeries is a a human freak pumped up with gross cosmetics. Nothing was improved

>>213314713
ew, nu Marines...

>over half the thread is getting mad at made up scenarios in their heads
Do any of you miserable fucks even look forward to waking up in the morning?

>>213299358 (OP)
I would give my left nut to see IP laws dissolve so that anyone can adapt anything. I know the counterarguments, I just don't care. It's an absolute cancer

>>213317806
You either have a folder with pictures of handsome men or you have a folder of pictures to use for low effort bait

Either way it's not looking good my man.

>>213317719
>A modern "trans" teenager after their surgeries is a a human freak pumped up with gross cosmetics.
But enough about Emperor's Children!

>>213299358 (OP)
i respect Cavill for being such a massive fan of Warhammer and not be ashamed of it. I hope he comes up with something HE likes, he have the honor no fan has ever had.
And i dont care what you faggots expect or think about him at charge, whatever he comes with you will hate it because you are sulless pieces of shit, you are more hyped with budget, box office and meme crap you dont deserve to be pleased anymore.

i want a sisters of battle movie where they and the militarum struggle against xenos until the very end where ONE space marine lands like an angel descending from heaven and blasts the xenos into mush as the sisters of battle and militarum prostrate at his majesty

>>213318050
I think IP should exist but it shouldn't be locked down. It should be free to use/adapt but you owe a percentage of your earnings, maybe 15-20%, to the IP owner, that way if your stuff makes it big so does the original owner. It should also be illegal for corporations or organizations or to own IP. other details could be easily ironed out.

>>213318342
Go home Matt, you are drunk.

>>213318366
i NEED to see a white haired blood covered beauty cry with tears of reverence

>>213318342
>copies my idea only to turn it into a marinewank
Faggot.

>>213317031
Nope.
>>213317051
Weird assumptions but ok, i've played 40K for longer than you've been alive.
>>213317118
Again, weird assumptions for some reason. 40K is completely hamfisted already, its pulp schlock that took a pastiche of every scifi idea and novel ever written. There's no subtext.

t. screenwriter

>>213314854
shut up, faggot, the movie needs to sell tickets

>>213318461
Your bitches KNEEL at my FEET

>>213318195
>the disgusting freaks of Astartes
>everyone calls them out for it
The moment a Imperium human in 40k tries to claim they're the wrong sex would be a moment of swift execution for daring to attempt confusing Munitorum records.

>>213318486
>t. screenwriter
If you're not a successful screenwriter your opinion means jackshit. Anyone can write script that never gets accepted but still claim to be a screenwriter. Also what's wrong with pulp? Pulp is the lifeblood of Sci fi and fantasy shows as well as movies. Without pulp we would have nothing except gay melodramas, "realistic" psychological thrillers, and historical films.

Who gives a fuck

Nu40k is utter shit. The videogames invited in legions of trannies and redditors

>>213318521
>not even most powerful transhuman supersoldiers made by emprah
If He trusted you, why did He need ten thousand bodyguards? And why weren't you one of them?

>>213318360
No, it's fundamentally jewy and one day people will realize just how retarded it is to enforce it. If I pulled a couple million out and paid people to make something based on an IP owned by for example Activision-Blizzard, and I end up having my profits, which I would need to make more, gutted at 20%, then I AM being jewed.

>>213318719
the uk being tranny central brought in trannies. 40k can be taken from fagsmakeslop by the fans. nothing is stopping anyone from just not accepting the fag lore. nothing stops us from just not listening to them.

in mtg, fans made commander instead and told niggersonthepost to suck dicks. now they are gay baby cucks who make cards for commander since thats what people play. the same can and WILL happen with 40k if it gets any gayer

papa wont literally cutting a promo about how he doesn't want to do anything

>>213318737
If you touched my dick then why didn't I cum?

Think about that.

>>213318486
>>213318665
NTA

I disagree with both of you but fuck this goodreads review writing faggot

>>213299509
MULTILASERS

>>213299358 (OP)
Doesn't matter.
There's no way you're going to adapt this to live action without it being a clownshow full of so many compromises that it bears little resemblance to the source material.
How are you going to have a space marine in actual armor on camera without it looking like cosplay made out of plastic?
What about when they're in a scene with normal humans?
Not to mention your sets need to be massive and opulent, or green-screened in desktop 40k wallpaper.
If you're going to adapt it I think you need to do it animated or CG. Live action is just going to look bad.

>>213318965
what if its cg except for the heads?

>>213318965
CGI solves so many problems and gives you so much freedom, you could depict any character you wanted, up to and including Big E. It should not be a hard sell.

>>213299358 (OP)
more like Pozhammer kek, it's literally shittier than Star Wars.

>>213318665
I would say im successful, of course everyone has own definition.
I never said i have any problem with pulp, its good - the problem is the fanboys who think it is NOT pulp. The whole story and lore of the game is literally just a backsection of a toybox, to sell you more cool product.

t. screenwriter

>>213319079
>we want the warcraft 2016 and hulk from infinity war audience
might as well just make it a cg cartoon at that point

>>213299358 (OP)
live action 40k, and on a tv budget no less, is gonna be laughably bad. The story will not matter as it will be visually repellent.

>>213319179
So is Gundam to this day. Every time I, an adult, see Gundam media, I itch to purchase plastic crack. That's why they're making them to this day. And yet the stuff like Gundam Thunderbolt and Hathaway's Flash are thoughtful and genuine works of art. If you don't wanna watch something you think is below you, then say that man. But certainly don't pretend you're the only one who knows what's going on, it's cringe

>>213319389
gundam dykes made me upset. i hate lesbians.

>>213319472
I just judge everything by the cover and never watch the sloppier or gayer stuff. It's been working out for me.

>>213319533
did you watch the live action show? i have no idea if its gay or not

>>213319588
Hell no. Call me a contrarian but my slop-ometer is too sensitive to look at live action adaptations of anime

Interested in the new Hathaway movie though

>>213319389
>So is Gundam to this day.
Quite opposite

>>213299372
>Giving money to Games Workshop
>Reading new bullshit with Rowboat Gillyman returning or gay primaris junk

There's plenty of good stuff without getting into the junk. Avast me hearties

>>213320010
I can't tell if you're being obtuse. They sell scale models. They invent new ones so they can sell them as scale models. The original series was a way to sell scale models.

>>213316884
>There is no true evil in the hearts of men, and since every wrong is intolerated it makes the world sterile. It was all a chaos trick or corruption or whatever.
Oh, you don't know what you're talking about

>>213320133
>was a way to sell scale models.
Now that's a lot of projecting.
Gundam at least have story and follows a certain narrative, unlike neverending capeshit-like ongoing of 40k
Also, Gundam as a brand simply vastly larger than 40k, so you cannot separate anime from figures.

>>213320137
>Oh, you don't know what you're talking about
Lame argument-> >>213299527

>>213320113
i dont really mind robot galleymarm and his elf girlfriend. its dumb, but, fuck it. at least its not alien anime cat girls, or NIGGERS

>>213299358 (OP)
It's never happening. Cuckville is washed.

>>213320137
I know exactly what im talking about.
It makes good setting for selling toys and scenarios.
It doesnt make good setting for a longer plot.

t. screenwriter

>>213320405
if he makes it, i hope he doesnt cuck himself to do it. you just KNOW those english faggots will ask him to include woke shit. i hope he chooses to just not make it instead of ruining it with faggotry

>>213319179
>I'm successful by my own arbitrary definition
>t. screenwriter
This is some elaborate bait tactic. I've never seen anyone pull shit on this board. No one cares about your opinion you navel-gazing faggot.

>>213320525
You know nothing. None of your criticism have any substance

t. Studio Producer

>>213320525
>t. screenwriter
genuinely, what the hell would you know about lasting plots? if you truly write, you only write EXTREMELY short stories not even meant to be read but performed.

YOU have no idea what it takes to write an actual long story. youre like those dumbass graphic design college kids who think they know SO much better and redesign sonic or vegeta and get clowned on for being a fucking retard

>>213320552
You're the one
1. Replying to me
2. Trying to define my own success to me
No idea why you keep replying since you're clearly seething about something that doesn't matter to you slightest bit.

t. screenwriter

>>213320609
I know enough that 40K has not a single, actually good book. And the ones that are considered 'good' always read like some B-Scifi.
Its fine, you can like it - i enjoy my B-Films too and shlock, but as i stated earlier : only the fanboys think 40K is 'serious'.

>/tv/ hates 40k now
i want the normalfag invasion to end

>>213320684
yeah im not interested in that. dont change the goalpost here. the fact of the matter is youre no authority on literature, ESPECIALLY because youre a screenwriter

>>213320699
I hate the Horus Heresy novels and the Primaris lore.

>>213320699
You always can return to your designated board

>>213320619
>define my own success
The moment you put t. screenwriter was you "defining success" on an anonymous image board you narcissistic weirdo.

>>213320285
Sigh. Can you just go read like maybe three HH books and get back to us? It's not fun spoonfeeding you and I already took the bait

>>213320720
Do you hate me too? I serve in perpetuity...for you...

>>213311979
Gaunt's Ghosts does a great job on showing how a chaos uprising, and a chaos militia works like

>>213303350
Can someone tell me please the meaning of this artwork? It looks interesting

>>213320938
I love DOW 1+2.

>>213320934
>Can you please read shitty tie-in novel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

>>213321113
what I found most troubling about the HH books was they all read like they were written by the same person despite being written by multiple different people, there was no style to any of them

Why not make it about a typical average Joe guardsman instead?

>>213299509
transgender hands typed this post.

>>213320684
The Gaunt's Ghost books are great. You"re just mad that the warhammer fanbase isn't hiv pozzed like dnd.

>>213321022
it's an inquisitor with his retinue at the start of his career and at the end of his career

>>213321545
>dies 5 minutes into the episode
What now?

We all saw how they butchered lord of the rings.

I give it about 5% chance for it to be kino 5% chance that it's acceptable slop. It's a sad state of affairs.

>>213320998
Yeah it does, it's creepy and weird and you really get the feeling that it's a whole culture with real hierarchies, not just unstable mental patients but an actual planned out and insidious - for lack of a better word -civilization. I got really into each book and never thought one was less good, but my favourite has to be Hinserhaus.

>>213321113
I'm not selling you the HH series you dumb fuck. I'm telling you that your arguments mean nothing to me because you HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS

And you forgot to put your faggy little qualification this time, t. english degree

>>213320717
Never said im authority, you make alot of weird assumptions and try to put words in my mouth just to argue.
>>213320898
Only you have claimed such.
>>213322248
I dunno what 'hiv pozzed' is, but i guess i can give this series a try.

t. screenwriter

>>213299358 (OP)
>warslop
grow up

>>213321545
Starting your cinematic universe with a faction nobody gives 2 shits about instead of your most popular one is fucking retarded

>ultramarines
Now, I don't get all bent out of shape at the ultramarines like some retards do but, why can't movies and shows get their own chapter? Video games had the blood rayvuns made just for them.

>>213322248
GG kicks ass. Gaunt is my favourite character in 40k

>>213303241
Then 40k is not for them. Same as they might not be interested in Pacific Rim.

>>213305785
That's like introducing people to Star Wars by focusing on Stormtroopers and leaving out Vader. Dumb as hell.

>>213310292
They had a deadline at the end of last year to have a solid proposal ready and they met it.

>>213303087
Because it's cool and real

>>213299358 (OP)
He is playing St. Celeste

>>213323152
I cannot with these trite worldly instruments convey to you how incandescently frustrated it made me to realize that Space Marine 2 would be another Blue Marine game. It makes perfect sense to start with the Ultramarines. I don't hate them. But we waited years and years for that game and every line of dialogue in that game was somehow bland and disappointing, I at least wanted to SEE some other legions. And they had to make the CSMs underwhelming buckets of sand with outdated AI

>>213311123
And how many people watched that?

>>213305785
>just how outclassed a regular human is
say that to my face and not over the noosphere, heretic

Storm of Iron, would make for a cool limited 6 episode series.

>>213316628
The same way you put hobbits with Boromir.

>>213316809
Finally someone who gets it.

Why is /tv/ so against guardsman?

>>213316809
>They are absurd.
Yes, which works when you're writing, or drawing, or painting, or making a miniature that doesn't move.
It wont look absurd in a good way, it will look like halloween costumes, or bruce banner at the end of infinity war in the big robot costume.
The question isn't "how do you make it not look absurd" its "how do you make it not look like cheap trash"

Tithes was very underrated and its the perfect warhammer show.
pretty much everything i have seen on warhammer tv has been great.

>>213323534
It's /tg/ refugees pissed off their favorite flavor of big muhreens won't resonate with enough people to sell a show worth watching so they turn on the real faction that accurately represents the Imperium of Man. I rather see Scions running around and wait for Season 2 for anything bigger.

>>213316809
das it mane

>>213323534
because 4chan is officially martian clay

>>213323823
crawl is a wanker, I'm a bilechad

>>213316809
>thousands of big armored conquerors going around bullying cultures of humans to join them
>their leaders are giants so freaky and mentally unstable they act more like the Addams family than functioning commanders
It won't work. Muhreens are better as background characters.

>>213312603
>Sorry pal, but I am homosexual and enjoy having sex with dicks

>>213323852
>be cawl
>go to planet with some old ctan chicanery
>get a face time call from the emperor across time and space
>he tells you you're a heretic but you're so incredibly based he doesn't mind
>double cross a c'tan
>drop kick it through a warp gate landing it deep in the middle of necron space screaming after it to tell them who sent ya
>use borderline abominable intelligence to install a simulated cawl in girlyman's ship
>it just constantly spams his inbox with suggestions about how belisarius cawl would make a fantastic fabricator general of mars
nah, he based

>>213323635
I'm one of the CGI autists ITT btw so I would never suggest live action in the first place

>>213323060
True I remember really enjoying "Arnogaur". Basically a World Eater that works as a MP for the Blood Pact who is investigating a murder against a Blood Pact tank commander

>>213299527

You can add pic related to that pic as well.

>>213323534
I love IG but i dont think they would make a good introductionary setting to 40K

t. screenwriter

>>213323892
>thousands of big armored conquerors going around bullying cultures of humans to join them
>their leaders are giants so freaky and mentally unstable they act more like the Addams family than functioning commanders
That's exactly how the Interex describe Horus and the Great Crusade, they point out that his title is Warmaster and that they were entirely justified in being wary of them at the very least. But yeah this was before the HH started so Horus wasn't unstable yet, that happens later, when he starts to believe that his father, who he believes is the greatest person who ever lived, has abandoned him and is planning to dispose of him. The absurdity here is not an argument against, but for Primarchs and Space Marines being the central characters, in my eyes. You have iterators and remembrancers like Kyril Sinderman(Loken's mentor), Ignace Karkasy(the dissident poet that Loken protects) and Euphrati Keeler(the lady who records Loken's anecdotes), and they're all great characters that you'd obviously use fully. You even see the imperial cult take root on the vengeful spirit and they have a saint.

>>213313325
GW retconning custodes to have females does feel like an attempt to shoehorn it into the lore ahead of a show which inevitably would insist on it, but it is very unlikely GW would give something the go ahead that isn't space marines especially as the first major live action media effort.

>>213299358 (OP)
>Warhammer's getting raped by normies
oh n-

>>213324470
Yeah. I remember him going into a mess hall and asking some officers assigned to the search what's going on, he doesn't like what he tells him so he pulps him in the middle of everyone's dinner and then grabs his underling to liaise or whatever. Crazy shit. There's like one other instance of Astartes showing up in the GG books and then it's just two of them

>>213324688
Can't tell if based copycat or the same fag

>>213324918
>There's like one other instance of Astartes showing up in the GG books

Ah yes, the infamous ambush involving the beserkers where the GG's just LOL and turn they're lasguns up to max power and oneshot the marines right through they're power armour. yeah i remember that lmao.

>>213299358 (OP)
They'll do whatever has the blue guys in it because that's what the most people recognize.
t. outsider

>>213324918
>he doesn't like what he tells him so he pulps him in the middle of everyone's dinner
He killed the guy for not immediately answering him.

>>213325019
Totally forgot about that. No, I meant when Gaunt and the commissars find out that two astartes, I think a white scar successor and something else, are gonna support them in destroying a remote weapons base. The two space marines go in with combat shields and just ignore Gaunt's troops, tanking these weird lizard xenos that pour through a hangar roof shooting needle guns at them. But yeah the CSMs getting schwacked in the swamp was kind of dumb.

>>213324816
Custodes are also made in a completly different way than astartes. They are modified from birth, there is no geneseed, no genetic link to a primarch. Unlike marines there is no reason why custodes couldn't be women.

>>213325019
Wasn't there some exploding spike plant field or something and the csm walked right into it?

>>213325118
What's cool about that book btw is that Gaunt's record and reputation has actually reached a level where, when he petitions the space marines to help make sure this mission works out, they actually listen and send two grumpy veterans.

>>213325190
It's insane that that's like eight books in and Gaunt is the only one who's actually seen a space marine before iirc

>>213325180
What? I seem to remember Valdor or someone being woken up in his room on terra as a boy and talking to a Custode who takes him away to be trained. And how can the custodes, who were created before the astartes, not have geneseed?

>>213316628
Yeah I get it, but the final fight between horus and the emperor is 80% pants on head ridiculous, looking more like a shonen parody than something audiences can take seriously
I'm talking about the light speed movements, the warp fuckery and that metaphysical 5D card duel with tarot decks

>>213324938
IG is too close to Starship Troopers, and would not show the 'core' of 40K. You would have to start the story from Space Marines (lets be real GW will insist they're the Ultramarines).
You can have a fish out of water story of a dude who is implanted with the geneseed and we see the progress of what it is to be one. Then you got your battles and such; see SM getting blasted to pieces and shit... then you introduce the IG - just normal humans in all this mess and they have it even worse.

t. screenwriter

>>213325180
your argument is stupid because 1. Custodes use genetic material from the Emperor in place of a primarch and so it makes sense for them to be male so that they can use the data in the Emperor's Y chromosome
2. The fucking Y chromosome contains most the important alleles for a fucking super soldier regardless
3. Women with two copies of the X chromosome can often not express desirable genes because one copy of the chromosome cancels out the other. That would be extremely undesirable when you are trying to genetically alter a human.
4. You don't want superhumans breeding because that takes their production out of the hands of the state/emperor etc.
All these reasons equally pertain to space marines, it is and always will be retarded to think they should be female.

>>213325428
>You can have a fish out of water story of a dude who is implanted with the geneseed
Not with the Ultramarines.

>>213324816
I dont get why women couldn't just appreciate more and be satisfied with just the adepta sororitas
In a way, they are even better than marines, because marines are all transhumans, genetically tweaked to be like they are, whereas sisters are just humans that have achieved the peak of human capacity through hard effort which is a nice fantasy when you remember how women tend to do IRL in the army
They could literally boast that while men are superhuman in the setting, women can also pull some superhuman feats too with just effort and faith, instead of genetical modifications
TL;DR:
>marines are like superman and sisters are like batman

>>213325300
I think that fight should stay vague. I imagine it was Horus being marched toward a fight with the Emperor by his chaos juice and tries to fight him, Big E says I'm a bad bitch you can't kill me and almost smokes him with a fraction of his psychic power as a means to try to control the situation, but the dark powers basically make Horus too angry to die at the last moment and some confusion involving Sanguinius ultimately leads to him getting insta'd by Big Chaos and Big E getting wheelchaired

>>213325287
Custodes are made by taking infants and genetically modifying them into super-warriors. They still need to train but they are completely different from Space Marines, who have built-in systems to replenish their numbers with geneseeds. Custodes are essentially handcrafted and it takes way more resource to make one than it takes to make a SM, so it's not feasible for the Imperium to mass produce them.

>>213325428
This is exactly how I imagined talking to a screenwriter would be

KYS

>>213325480
>You don't want superhumans breeding
Males are sterile, why wouldn't females?

>>213299509
>Gets disproved by one independent animater posting to youtube

>>213325300
eh, if they tone down the metaphysical bullshit and omit some retarded feats, focusing more on exchange of blows and ideological debate, it could become quite an interesting fight to watch

>>213325287
>And how can the custodes, who were created before the astartes, not have geneseed?
Thunder Warriors didn't had geneseed neither. Only astartes have it.

Wouldn't something like Blood Bowl make for a genuinely better standalone film?
You know, make a fun good movie and THEN try to turn it into a Cinematic Universe.

>>213325570
I haven't read anything with Custodes in it for years so yeah
I really love the parts of Master of Mankind though. And the book where an SOS and a Custode fight a bunch of CSMs together, whatever that one's called I listened to the audiobook like three times when it came out because I couldn't scam audible out of any more tokens

>>213314713
that looks great

Weird how Custodes don't have their Chaos equivalent.

>>213325480
>Custodes use genetic material from the Emperor in place of a primarch a
That's the Grey Knights

>>213325710
Something something king in yellow.

>>213325495
Of course you can, you can have a citizen of Ultramar, a guy down on his luck and he accidentally gets accepted as Aspirant and finding himself in the progress. Then we see him go through trials and end the season setupping him becoming an Ultramarine next.

t. screenwriter

>>213325300
idk why they made that fight so over the top in the books, because personally, I think this final showdown is at its very core, a confrontation between an estranged son and his distant authoritarian father; a turning point where both of them realize how far they fucked up by not being more close or solving their issues earlier
and you can bet that kind of shit would resonate way more with the audience at an emotional level because of how common that problem is
just something to engage viewers more with an otherwise alien conflict to them

>>213325635
I would love this, since its not canon and the tone is a lot lighter, giving more freedom to storytelling and playing with the world.

t. screenwriter

>>213325710
Custodes being mysteriously superior aside, I think it comes down to how few of them there are so Big E can and definitely wants to shield them personally. He does that, so figures he'd give them giga blessings when it counts. Some of them get special Big E dreams, too. There's stuff in Master of Mankind where Big E shows a Custodian a supposedly real psychic retelling of when his uncle murdered his father and little emps preserves his skull.

>>213325795
Yeah you could do a decent amount of worldbuilding just setting up a simple football rivalry

>>213325745
It's just Valdor playing 4D chess to hit Chaos where it hurts

>>213325795
Oh and I've been watching If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device on youtube, it's solid stuff. I turn it on to get the old noggin joggin when I want to work on my novel.

t. screenwriter

>>213320619
Reported for trolling outside of /b/.

>>213325795
>This is just too grim and dark for me.
What a faggot.

>>213325905
There is only one fake screenwriter in this thread. The rest are impostor fake screenwriters.

>>213326104
>impostor fake screenwriters
Would that make them real screenwriters?

>>213326178
Real screenwriters cannot write, so it cancels itself out