>Cuz We are box office flops, yes we are
>Well We are box office flops, yes we are

Both films are more successful than the Snyderverse though

>>213312814 (OP)
Explain how Superman was a flop without sounding Indian

>>213312840
both film combined lmao

>>213312847
Superman won’t even beat MOS box office from 12 years ago

>>213312862
Both film franchises are alive. The Snyderverse is dead. Checkmate, jeets!

>>213312870
It has already in the US.
>b-but it flopped in b-bulgaria!!
The other dude said "without sounding indian"

>>213312906
It needs to make 920 million to be more financially successful than MOS.

How much money has it made?

Why is DC so powerful? Is it because marlel only hires jeets for their spam campaings on the internet????

>>213312917
>it needs to make [insert pajeet made up number* to be succesful]
No, you need to learn how to use a toilet. It only needs to BTFO the MCU and all you mousesaars and it has done that already

Remember when if a capeshit didn't cross the billie line, it was a total C-tier hero failure. Now F4 and Superman are trying to reach $500'000'000 like if It was a raft in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

>>213312951
It’s lost money when it was supposed to be the start of a franchise.

>>213312870
>Immediately brings up Snyder
I said WITHOUT sounding Indian

>>213313004
It didn't and you sound awfully brown and smelly in your cope, almost suspiciously brown and smelly if you catch my jeet

>>213312906
Man of Steel had about 31.9 million tickets-sold in the US, while Superman has about 18.6 million tickets-sold.

>>213313095
It can’t even beat Jurassic World 8

>>213313130
It cost 425 million to make and will only make a max profit of 300 million on under 600 million in tickets sold

>>213312847
Imagine being a grown up and caring about this shit lol

>As of July 31, 2025, Superman has grossed $302 million in the United States and Canada, and $225 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $528 million.[3][4]

>At the start of June 2025, TheWrap reported that Superman needed to gross more than $500 million worldwide to become profitable at the box office, but that it would need to earn around $700 million to be considered a success.

>>213312840
>My slop is better than your slop!
Enough capeshit.

>>213313259
>Aliveslop is better than Deadslop
yes

I still don't understand why after all this time they measure a movie's success with box office numbers instead of total ticket sales.

Both are a disaster.

If superman ceiling is 600, that means no hope for the new DCEU, no way the other lesser characters movies can be profitable.
F4 miscast was supposed to join main team avenger, but with those numbers they better be killed to give heat to new main villain.

>>213313298
MOS sold 14 million more tickets then Superman

>>213313298
>why do they measure a movie's success with how much money it made
retard

>>213313343
Gunnsisters...........

>>213312840
Sure thing Kyle.

>>213312978
I'm still laughing at the 'anti-american sentiment' and 'superman is obscure' cope.

>>213313306
Too late to pivot, Doomsday is built upon FF and fox-men, the latter which will just fucking die. Past that, it's all unlikeables on screen per all reports, Captain Buckbroken, Pigh, She-Hag, etc. They can't even land a decent Spider-Man appearance.

>>213312814 (OP)
Dinobros…. We won.

>>213313306
>no way the other lesser characters movies can be profitable
they're gonna have to start relying on batslop before long but i honestly don't know how long even that can last

>>213313401
Making a good trilogy is the only way forward. MCU success was a one hit wonder.

>>213313401
A joker movie will save them. Unless they have done irreparable damage to that character in its last two castings

>New Superman movie
>Be massively promoted
>Massive worldwide release planned
>Can't even beat Man of Steel...
>...before inflation
What are the excuses?

>>213313377
Wait when did Gunn take over? Pretty sure those movies aren’t his design at all. Blue Beetle is in continuity IIRC the rest not.

>>213313433
It needs to double its current box office to beat MOS and it’s being pulled from cinemas in a few days.

It’s a monumental fuck up

>>213313401
Batman going action comedy with this superman is a very bad idea and they know it.
Like imagine batman getting tossed around by the dog.

>>213313466
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213313535
I don’t know what that is. Comparing it to the previous version of the characters stand alone movie is a good metric

>>213313535
>>213313556

Snyder is mediocre.
The idea of making more "mature" super movies was spot on but those movies he made were mid as fuck.
The garbage moon cancelled trilogy made it clear, snyder is a very mid director.

>>213312978
>Now F4 and Superman are trying to reach $500'000'000 like if It was a raft in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
lmao

The death of comic book movies is the only hope we have for cinema

>>213312814 (OP)
Le söy smile

>>213313672
It’s fun to see the studios lose a fuck load of money and reputation by trying to keep them going. What was the turning point? All the shitty tv shows or Antman ?

>>213312814 (OP)
Is this the state of masculinity now? Light, clinical colours, soft emotionally stilted smiles, short expressionless hair, kindness put above all other virtues?

>>213313701
Avengers: Endgame was the apotheosis of the genre. There was nowhere to go but down, and as each subsequent film failed to match that high, they gradually became lamer and lamer.

>>213313730
There seemed to be some fans of that Loki show but it was garbage too

>>213313454
>gunnfag not coping with the fact that all those flop movies did massive reshoots under gunns direction

>>213314209
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213313454
>Wait when did Gunn take over?
After Black Adam.

The movies lost money under Gunn because he declared them non-canon before they came out.

>>213312847
It didn't make enough money to break even.

>>213312906
Lol cope. Studios don't care where the money's coming from as long as it's coming.

>>213314271
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

The brightest stars burn the quickest.

>>213314285
I don't care about Snyder, I hate Gunn slop.

>>213313730
Endgame was fucking awful too. The genre peaked with Spider-man 2.

>>213314299
>>213314316
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

boy you are trying way too hard with this attempt at a meme

>>213314221
Do you know what's more funny than a dead comic universe, ALL OF THEM DEAD AHAHAAA

>>213312840
This is massive cope kek. Even snydercut was a worldwide phenomenon and I hate snyderjeets

>>213313701
>What was the turning point? All the shitty tv shows or Antman?
This >>213313730 but Antman 3 was the Emperor's New Clothes, the moment the cope/hype died and everyone had to agree Marvel was dead the smell of that corpse is unbearable

>>213314362
>>213314365
>>213314351
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213312847
Domestically, Superman beat the shit out of Sneeder

>>213313181
Profit is good that's revenue in excess of expenditures.

>>213313377
ftfy

>>213314283
The US take is significantly higher than Foreign. You're 60-80% of the box office domestic vs starting at 40% or less foreign

>>213312840
Keep telling yourself that

>>213314728
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213312840
Why can't we just get along?

>>213314784
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213312814 (OP)
gl with that

>Even snydercut was a worldwide phenomenon

>>213314794
How does Snyderverse being dead keep gunnverse from dying?

>>213314946
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213314548
Actually it sold fewer tickets.

>>213314962
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213314951
So you know Gunn couldnt save DC capeshit.
You're starting to heal.

>>213314970
We got a broken gunnbot here

>>213314977
>>213314993
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315004
Snyderverse is not dead.

>>213315014
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213312814 (OP)
Supercuck will NEVER achieve what the Fantastic 4 will achieve in the next 2 years.

>>213315046
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315046
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213314339
This is about WB fucking over the entire DC franchise since 1978 outside of the Nolan trilogy, and Gunnshills pretending the same won't happen to the Gunnverse

>>213315229
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315245
You might have a point, but how does that stop Superman from flopping?

>>213315254
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

Stop worshiping this faggot.

>>213315271
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315259
You might have a point, but how does that stop Superman from flopping?

>>213315283
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315287
You might have a point, but how does that stop Superman from flopping?

>>213315293
You might have a point, but how does that stop the Snyderverse from being dead forever?

>>213315281
>>213315283
>>213315287
>>213315293

>>213315309
>I AM SILLY

Gunn thinks it's funny when kids get raped and all his WB movies have FLOPPED big time. What the fuck did they see in this guy?

>>213312814 (OP)
How much money earned does it take to not be considered a flop?

>>213315439
At least 2x the production and marketing budget.

>>213315439
Well if you listen to these retards the movie needs to make 4.29 billion otherwise it's a flop.

>>213315439
555 million. It's likely to break even today.

>>213315439
Depends on the budget and internal goals. If a movie with a budget of 50 million and minimum marketing like the Joker hits 500m, that's a massive hit. If a movie like Superman, with 360m budget, huge marketing campaign and big internal expectations hits 500m, that's a flop.

>>213313377
>>213314669
Why did Aquaman 2 fail so hard?

>>213315439
>363 Mil production budget
>2.5x the budget
It needs 850-900Mil to break even
>200Mil on promotion
>2.5x the budget
It needs to make 1.25 Bil to break even

>>213315477
False. Studios get only 50% of the BO gross.

>>213315530
Correct. It is likely to break even today.

>>213315510
They announced the Gunn Universe and even normalfags realized there was no point in seeing Aquaman 2. Also the movie sucked.

>>213315543
Nope.
>https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-hollywood-not-all-box-office-dollars-are-equal-1409241925
>The cut of each box office dollar that studios take varies from as little as 25 cents in China to about 50 cents in the U.S

>>213315560
Correct. It is likely to break even today.

>>213315519
This. It's a massive flop.

>>213315560
How much do they take if the movie makes 25 cents in China?

>>213315565
Straight up ignoring facts, eh?

>>213315573
6.25, mathlet.

>>213315590
I'm agreeing with you and your article. It is likely to break even today.

At my local kinoplex, both F4 and JW are doing better than Superman. Lots of empty ass seats for Superman at prime time Saturday evening hours. Also Naked Gun is climbing the charts and to Gunn's dismay has reviewed well and is likely to crash its showings even further.

Bend over Gunnjeets.

>>213315599
If it makes 550 worldwide, that means the studio has only made 225 at best, which doesn't cover the production budget, so no.

>>213312814 (OP)
Kek capeshitters in the mud

>>213315636
The production budget was 220, so yes. It is likely to break even today.

>>213315638
Both Disney and WB must be having massive cold feet, especially the former. Atleast WB can still pull the rug under Gunn and just cut their losses and move. But Disney is stuck with that Avengers movie without a script and fat RDJ pay check.

>>213315653
>The production budget was 220,
Lol no. Try 250, and you forgot the marketting budget, silly little shill.

>>213315702
The 550 figure covers the marketing budget. It is likely to break even today.

>>213313377
By those metrics, both Suicide squad and Aquaman are way better movies than Man of steel, you absolute retard.

>>213315702
Try 360m for production and 200m for marketing (WB said it was the same scale as Barbie)

>>213315715
This >>213315519
Gunnpedos on suicide watch.

>>213315711
Okay, let's be generous and use shill numbers
>(220+100)x2 = 660
Superman is still over 100 million dollars in the red.

>>213315729
>11 million in tax credit
Yes.

Now show the one from Cleveland (where the bulk of the shooting was done).

>>213315744
You don't double the marketing budget. That's only counted once. It's just the production budget times two and a half (roughly).

>>213315767
Ok so 360m x 2,5 = 900m

Which lines up pretty well with their expectations.

>>213315785
220 times 2.5.

I know you can do it.

>>213315767
>You don't double the marketing budget.
Yes, you do. You spent in on the movie just like the production budget. Now you need to make that money back.

>>213313381
For all we know they could kill the unlikeables in secret wars

>>213313622
More like snyder is only ever good at working with content somebody else came up with instead of making his own shit, wonder if rebel moon would have been any better if it was a star wars movie

>>213312978
Superman already crossed 500 million

>>213315800
No. The marketing is not part of the production budget. That's stupid. The rule of thumb is 2.5 times the production budget to break even. The film will likely break even today.

>>213315309
Swap the brains and it's accurate

>>213312875
>snyderverse is dead
Give it a few more months

>>213316033
No need. It died years ago. Dead and buried.

>>213316033
>>213316100
Gunn is keeping it alive with Peacemaker. It's over.

>>213315919
>no bro
>the studio doesn't need to make back the money it invested in marketing the movie

where does this meme come from

Amazing how for the first time in a loooong time DC will win againts Marvel. Years of Snyder garbage only fueled Marvel success

>>213312840
Not even close

>>213316166
It already did as you can clearly see in my previous post. The film will likely break even today.

>>213316191
The box office. Only Jurassic World is doing well. Marvel has 3 flops. DC has 1.

>>213316234
i mean the "im a X, yes i am"

>>213312840
>MoS - 670 million
>BvS - 875 million
>WW - 800+ million
>Aquaman 1.2 billion

Uh oh! The Gunntroons are malding again!
>made less than MoS unadjusted
Hahahahahahaha!!!

>>213316229
>as you can clearly see in my previous post.
All I see is that you're trying to pretend the marketing budget doesn't count.

>>213316277
That's why you have to multiply the production budget by 2.5x. To cover the marketing and theater cut. Where do you think that money goes? Youre a bit of a dummy. Lol.

>>213315715
So they only got 11m tax credit? So the budget is 350m lol. Always remind people that they’re lying about the budget

>>213316326
No, this is nonsense you made up to cope. It's the money you spent on the movie (production + marketing) multiplied by 2 because you're getting 50% of gross. That's it.

>>213315309
Make both brains small and its accurate.

>>213316352
From that one shooting location, yes. Most of the film was filmed in Georgia. Theres another tax sheet anon isnt showing for someeeee reason.

>>213316326
dumbass that's when you don't know the marketing budget, that's what 0.5x is for to be used as a general guideline (keyword is guideline). Here marketing budget is known and theaters take a 50% cut, so (prod + marketing)x2 is the required boxoffice to break even

>>213316384
Yup. You're a dummy.

>>213315510
It came out 5 years after the 1st and it was a retarded soft reboot

>>213316404
Nope. Its 2.5 times the production budget. Look it up. You're incorrect and a also a stupid dummy. Lol.

>>213316421
>ad hominem

You lost.

Not yet, wait until Brave and The Bold flops hard, you'll be posting "ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME" for weeks.

>>213316450
You are a dummy though. Sorry.

>>213312847
it needed to make at least 700 million to break even and 800 million to see a profit. It wont get to 600m before the box office run is over

>>213316444

>>213316472
At least I can add, jeet. Remember this thread when Superman doesn't get another solo movie because this one bombed.

>>213316485
You are very self assured in your stupidity. Most stupid people are.

>>213316506
This is the worst grammar and syntax I've seen lately. Get a new ESL teacher, mate.

>>213316495
No matter. The information I gave wasnt meant to convince you coping snyyderjeets trying to spin damage control. For anyone else reading this thread, Superman is likely to break even today. You'll know for sure tomorrow morning :)

>>213316542
The rest of the people reading this thread can do basic math and they know you're full of shit.
>haha let's just ignore the 150 million dollars in the marketing budget haha

>>213312847
Because you don’t understand how the box office works. First of all the production budget was reported as 225 million dollars. Its marketing budget has been reported as anywhere between 125 million to 175+ million.

At the box office it has made 302m domestic and 225m international. When you look at what the studio takes home (60% domestic and 20-40% international) that gives them 226.2-272.1 million dollars against a budget of 350-400+ million dollars. That means this movie is anywhere from 78-174 million dollars in the red.

Now, this movie could be even further in the red. In documents they filed with Ohio, the production budget (not including marketing) was reported as 363 million dollars. DC claims that tax breaks and incentives brought it down to 225m.
But if they’re lying and doing some hollywood accounting this movie could have lost even more money.

Finally, this movie began production in June 2023. You could have taken the 350-400+ million dollars they spent and the other 138 million dollars they spent but claim to have gotten back from incentives and breaks, invested it into the S and P, and be up 244m-269m dollars or more. So not only are they down 78-174m, they missed out on a further 244m-269m, so when you factor in opportunity costs they’re down 322m-443+ million dollars. If they never made this movie they’d have 322-443+ more million dollars than they do now. That’s not being made up for by merchandising and streaming. How was this not a flop?

>>213316572
>no dont listen to him! The film is a flop! A FLOP!!

Keep up the good cope, jeets!

>>213312814 (OP)
This type of thread fucking sucks, on and on about big budget movies failing…we get it faggot. Why not start a thread about a movie you’ve discovered and why you enjoy it?

>>213316610
>barely breaking even is a massive accomplishment now.
lol lmao. Gunntroons are funny

>>213316662
Everything after today is gravy. Its got a lot of legs left. Pretty cool that Superman was a success, dont you think?

>>213316609
you're arguing against broken record thougheverbeit

>>213316753
Nice translation job, jeet. How embarrassing.

>>213316654
maybe they shouldn't have shilled their slop here, einstein said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

>>213316753
I know. What is it about this movie that makes people so desperate to defend it and claim it a success? They’re literally delusional, it’s really weird. Or they’re all shills. In case of the latter I would argue that this movie was an even bigger flop due to the massive shill campaign DC has funded. However, I can’t imagine the Indians they hired to create and post in these threads cost very much.

>>213312814 (OP)
There are people on this board right now that think the total gross goes directly into the studio's pocket. It makes me afraid that these people drive cars and vote

>>213316699
Totally. The collection is going up, up and away.

>>213316779
>jest shill exposes himself as a jeet shill that’s not from here by not recognizing ‘thougheverbeit’ and thinking it was a translation error
Go back tonight wherever you came from

>>213312814 (OP)
marvel had such a good run. Everything up to and including infinity war, as a comic book fag, was either amazing, except for mediocre movies like iron man 2, thor 2 and 3, Dr strange and Antman, and the occasional actual dogshit movie (black panther, iron man 3, Spiderman homecoming). Infinity war is a 10/10 just like the first avengers. Then captain marvel becomes the fourth piece and possibly worst piece of dogshit, and endgame is a spectacle but simply not that good, killing off the two main characters and all future interest in the series. And yet people say endgame might be the best when it’s easily in the bottom third of the movies leading up to it. I lol at reddit retards that kept watching after that (I tried the first 3 tv series out of boredom, wandavision was okay and at least Elizabeth Olsen is pure sex, while Loki was bad, and finally Falcon and the white guilt soldier was unwatchable dogshit). All the movie trailers since have confirmed dropping the entire franchise after seeing endgame once was the correct choice

No comment on Superman. I saw man of steel opening night and it was awful, and everyone else from the old DCEU looked horribly miscast. This new Superman looks ‘fun’ but just not interested anymore

>>213316836
It's a geniune mystery. It might just be some unemployed relatives of Gunn who knows. All I know is that the shilling for MCU died down on this board with Gunn going DC.

>>213316888
My only other theory is discord trannies desperate to defend this movie because they view this movie as a win for them, but after posts like this >>213316779 I’m leaning toward shill campaign. Thoughbeit I guess tranny discord raiders wouldn’t know thougheverbeit either. So who knows who they are, all we know is they’re definitely not from here.

>>213316886
>endgame is a spectacle but simply not that good
agreed, endgame was like an ending you give to a show that is about to be axed

SuperGunn 5/10
Sue Storm and her 3 little helpers 5.5/10

They both sucked, will not watch either again.

>>213316654
>I entered a thread about stuff I do not like and now I am upset

>>213316886
> Superman looks ‘fun’ but just not interested anymore.
This. Not even going to stream it. Maybe I'll watch it on the airplane for next years vacation. I just don't care about superslop anymore

>>213317043
I enjoyed F4. 7/10, the best new IP flick from Marvel since Endgame. Wish it was longer, felt like they cut down scenes of Benn and Silver bust ass fem surfer.

>>213312840
Obsessed nigger, keep crying that Snyder changed the game forever

>>213317317
Um, Based?

I liked that song when it came out, is it ruined now?

>>213313377
>punisher panther

>>213313234
why's that link blurred out

>>213312814 (OP)
"Did you two start without me?"

>>213312814 (OP)
Why are they in the same chair?

>>213316609
I'm almost certain you are Indian

>>213315510
amber heard

>>213320353
>t. seething gunntroon

>>213315824
Feige just put out a statement saying they won't do it, only recast Cap and Iron Man.

Bump