Thread 213328948

Guys, it was a joke!

He was greasing the union.

Potential plot for Vito in season 7 - Tony Soprano asks him to stop taking his medication so that he can infiltrate a rival gay mafia.

>>213328948 (OP)
literally me

kinda felt bad for vito in the end

>>213328948 (OP)
Why did Chase think this was a good subplot?

>>213329053
it was funny

>>213329037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWeHc3vAL74

>>213328948 (OP)
>what are you doing!
>is he sucking your balls

>why is he doing that?

>So uhh what else does he do

He was in a psychotic state here because of his blood pressure medication this happens i remember one time I took a Tylenol and sucked my dads dick

>>213328948 (OP)
one time I got fucked up on percocet and gabbapentin and thought "maybe getting pegged could be hot"

If vito had been able to stay hidden for just a year or so longer he could have come back when Tony and Phil were dead. His ability to earn would have got him a pass with the new leadership after Tony's death.

>>213329168
>Tony's death
lol

>>213329053
Chase is a pretty fucked up guy.
I took away from his HBO interview show that he is pretty much an asshole and a lot of the fucked up shit that happened on the show he must have thought was funny as hell.

I took a little over the right dose of nyquil and I am not sure what happend, but my farts have been silent for years.

>>213329187
so how do you interpret the final scene of the show?

He should’ve went to get the doctors note first before seeing Tone. Would’ve cleared everything up.

>>213329285
Chase said it was just a cut to black ending.
He's the kind of prick that would do that and let his fans fight over what happened for years after.

>>213329351
>He's the kind of prick that would do that and let his fans fight over what happened for years after.
Oh and I left out laugh about it, too.

>>213328948 (OP)
It was his medication, he's off it now

>>213328948 (OP)
>my brother is standing over there

>>213329478
what did he mean by this?

>>213328948 (OP)
just a joke, he was on meds. most people have no idea what meds actually do. I suck dicks a few times a week just because I've got asthma and take meds for it. it's not a big deal.

>>213328948 (OP)
a letter from his doctor and 200k should have been good enough!

>>213329478
>dont turn your back on me!

how much more disrespect can Paulie take?

The best possible end to this would have been them buying Vito's bad excuse 100%, then they sit around for the rest of the episode fearfully discussing how to avoid the pills that turn you gay.

>"dis ain't good, Tone, I take blood pressure medication!"
Then at the end it shows them beating the shit out of a pharmacist.

>>213329731
Pauly: If I suck one cock, just one, I'm going to come back here and burn your store down with you in it.

Pharmacist: Please don't kill me. I don't know what you're talking about.

>>213329212
Yeah that's something I suspected too. Like he thinks all these characters beefing over fucking nothing like the Ginny Sack joke is actually funny rather than a horribly dark look at sociopathic behavior.

The whole Vito thing was dark. If you ignore the whole gay aspect of it it was I think the largest window into how much hate can be directed at a single person in the show (except for AJ punishing his family). But it's altogether far more likely Chase wanted these characters to fuck up a faggot. Like I seriously think the reason why Frank Vincent and Tony Sirico's performances were so fucking good is because they actually would or did say things like the said. Like we'll never know but they probably straight-faced a ton of the shit they said. I mean Paulie was only added to the fucking script because of Sirico's audition so presumably Chase just wanted him to be him in a show.

>>213328948 (OP)
>awkward shoehorned lgbt romance subplot
Modern TV is all garbage.

>>213329212
Sopranos contains some of the funniest moments in history.
That's why a lot of people like it.
Black humour is a thing, guys....

>>213329924
lol

OH SHIT

>>213329731
It would have been hilarious but I really don't think there was ever a moment in the whole series where any of these characters turned from their prejudices (excluding Tony). Nobody was going to buy Vito's excuse for the medication - they knew what homosexuality was.

Excluding Paulie (who just kinda went crazy over Mary and psychics only in the last season), all of them had a pretty deterministic view of everything. Things happen - and there is a reaction.

That was something that made the show horrifying in a ways. Furio's uncle said it - these bosses know everything. And it was true, everyone actually fucking figured out the truth all the time. Like Sil knew Tony killed Chris, that was fucking superhuman how he caught the slip.

>>213330020
>Chase wanted these characters to fuck up a faggot.
I bet a lot of the sick stuff came straight from Chase since he lived around that type of people and it was a way of life for him. He most likely saw himself as Tony and directed him to do the shit that Chase fantasized about doing himself.

>>213329351
Chase accidentally called it a death scene during an interview and got mad when the guy doing the interview pointed out that he'd just referred to it as a death scene.

>>213329519
OHHHHHHHHHH!!
Guys, we need to have a sit down and decide what to do about this anon.

>>213328972
HA HA HA

>>213328948 (OP)
>you got a bee ona you fag

>>213330464
I believe that.
I didn't know what to make of the ending either until I watched some of the interviews with Chase. After that, I was like, this motherfucker...

>>213329053
Its one of the most talked about and actually went somewhere unlike Tony going between killing johnny sac or killing ol fish lips then nothing happens.

>>213330231
What's this stance called?

>>213330739
the penguin

>>213330633
Well we can't have him here in our board no more, I mean that much I do know.

>>213329091
why does that guy with Mass plates in what looks like NH talk like he's from maine?

>>213329212
>>213330020
Retard take. The intended tone of the show is totally clear. A lot of this stuff IS funny and it is more or less authentic to these types of characters, but it's very dark humor, and the way it's presented does have a clear sense of morality even though pretty much all the characters are immoral or amoral to some degree. He doesn't shove a message down your throat but he is clearly aware how this all comes off

>>213330694
Does it really matter if Tony dies right there? He's fucked anyways because Carlo turned informant and the indictment was coming - same fate as Johnny Sack. 20 years and forfeiture of 95% of assets, which is essentially the entire family's assets: the Bing, Satriale's, the esplanade, garbage, construction, etc. Basically Carm gets the house and a car; college for the kids is done.

>>213334461
Kek'd

>>213329053
gay rights debates were kicking off and the whole thing is vaguely based off the real killing of a decavalcante acting boss

>>213329053
vito's actor professionally scammed chase into writing it. also chase probably did it as a fuck you to HBO for making season 6 twice as long as it was supposed to originally be
>>213330702
>unlike Tony going between killing johnny sac or killing ol fish lips then nothing happens
season 4 fags will defend this subplot to the grave. i don't mind the lack of payoff since chase has always been interested in throwing curveballs, but fuck, something was needed to make season 4 just a bit more important cause that's by far the most filler heavy season

>>213328948 (OP)
>Dressing up like a nazi is never cool
I always thougt it wwas too much when Tony said this

>>213331436
Our board? He's gotta go!

>>213329053
its pretty funny, everyone dies, i dont see why people get so butthurt over some people dying on account of their personality traits and social behaviors

>>213334892
I heard it was the other way around and chase turned vito gay as a joke because the actor was openly homophobic

I didn’t get it, but that’s not to say it wasn’t a good joke. I’m just not the comedic type and it probably went straight over my head.

>>213334892
>>213335280
The Vito actor had the idea for the subplot and Chase told him if you commit to lose the weight I’ll write it in for you and he did. Then the rest of the cast was butthurt about him getting extra lines even though it was an incentive to get healthy and actually possibly save his life.

>>213329168
the new leadership would have been puppets for New York. New York wouldn't stand for it. Vito would have to go.

>>213329053
The guy who played Vito read a book about a gay mobster and pitched it to Chase

>>213335618
>the rest of the cast was butthurt about him getting extra lines
I don't know how these actors are compensated - I always imagined they got paid a rate for a season regardless of how many scenes they shot (within reason).

But it seems to me that there was probably a lot of shit happening. For example, Gandolfini aggressively negotiated something like a million/episode after the first season and he got it. And he "felt bad" that the other actors were suddenly getting so little so he had them come to his trailer where he handed them a wad of cash. And when Falco was asked about this she said she didn't see any money, which suggests she wasn't a part of the clique. And I kinda felt sorry for her because she went sober and couldn't party with the others, who were doing coke and drinking intensely.

Like being jealous of Vito's character getting personalized scenes seems very believable. But I really can't see him being paid more for it.

>>213334461
This, and one scene where Tony goes on some rant to Melfi and she gets annoyed and stands up or calls off the session are the two most awkward cuts I can remember in the show

>>213329053
This subplot had hands down my favorite sequence in the entire series. The montage gag of Vito the carpenter

>>213337412
Yeah that was really funny. Was that the only internal monologue in the entire series? I really appreciated actually hearing their actual thought process on how to be lazy fucks. I know it's better to show (like the no-work jobs) than tell but man, it was nice to see the fat guy actually be a lazy fat guy.

HE WAS CATCHING?????

HOW MUCH BETRAYAL AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE??

>>213328948 (OP)
>Mafia member
>Secret fag
>Better go party in NYC
Explain this thought process.
If you wanna be a queer go to SF

>>213329053
it served to illustrate the values of the Mafia, like juniors oral sex thing, or the thing where Coco harassed Meadow, were only really upheld in the old country traditional manner when they involved other men's sexual preferences

>>213337525
He was sucking security guard dick in his untinted car in the worksite parkinglot. There was nothing to his thought process beyond
>I want to go be a fag
>let me grab my leather gear and drive to the gay bar to fag it up
He was an impulsive retard.

>>213337525
He wanted to make a joke that was the whole point didn't you watch the show

>>213330361
>Like Sil knew Tony killed Chris, that was fucking superhuman how he caught the slip.
elaborate pls? it's been a while.

>>213337571
>like juniors oral sex thing
I felt so fucking bad for Junior getting shit for being equitable in the bedroom. It was like picking on Bobby for playing with trains.

I'd bang fran felstein

>>213337646
When Tony was explaining to the guys how Christopher died he said something like, "He choked on his own blood *everyone moans*; apparently that's how he died." And it cuts to Sil raising his eyebrow.

You don't say "apparently" right after you say how the doctors said he died. It means Tony disputes what the doctors said about how Chris died and the only way he would dispute that is if he knew otherwise how Chris died. Sil caught Tony's accidental contradiction.

>>213329496
He was making a point that he wasn’t alone if Tony tried anything

>>213329053
Because Phil "the radiator enthusiast" Leotardo went outta the closet just to whack the fat fuck

>>213329637
Not much since Sil and Tony take one jab at her not being married and instantly goes crying to Johnny Sack.