Thread 213330232

Great Man and True Patriot Edition
Previous clone >>213318867

Ro Laren pics pls

Never forget what they took from us

>playing through the old X-Men Legends 2 game
>Quark randomly voice acting Zealot

>>213330232 (OP)
Getting back to my idea from last thread, how would you script an episode where the Vorta are forced to interact with "wild" Vorta that never had anything to do with the Founders?

>>213330431
Wouldn't it just be a total downer episode because the wild Vorta would find out that their showing kindness and compassion to a Changeling resulted in their genetic enslavement?

>>213330502
This would maybe be set after Section 31 took care of the CQ, where the remaining domesticated Vorta are struggling with a quadrant that hates them and now has no reason to hold back.

>>213330529
Hmm yeah maybe the ones left dedicate themselves to trying to find the last remaining changelings that were sent out and hopefully didn't die from the illness. So they're just spreading out to the
farthest reaches of the quadrant in search. Mite b cool

>>213330389
Its been a long road....

>>213330297
agreed

>>213330389
>>213330727
that road was TOO long!
their time wasn't finally near, it was already up.

>>213330673
I like where this is headed. It gave me an idea that the tame Vorta discover a changeling, but then it dies, and the Vorta find out they're carriers of the Section 31 virus, so they have to gain the cooperation of the wild Vorta to help purify their genetic material or something. And by this time the wild Vorta have become the top dogs in some smaller Dominion-analogue group, so they can't just be forced into helping.

>>213330232 (OP)
A show idea that could be interesting is if we followed a commodore, or similar officer who commands a fleet of ships, instead of just a captain with one ship.

>>213331018
>gain the cooperation of the wild Vorta to help purify their genetic material
You lost me here. what help would they possibly be if they don't even know what a Founder is? and then when they do find out, why would they want to help such a people? it would have to be some kind of plot like the tame Vorta trying to indoctrinate the wild ones into their cult or something.

also I'm reminded of when they said their "best Vorta doctors" were working around the clock for a cure. there's so many plotholes when you even spend 2 seconds thinking about the Dominion. you're telling me the Founders, with all their subjugated races and planets in their entire literal DOMINION didn't have anyone better to work on the cure for the GENOCIDAL ILLNESS than the fucking VORTA?

>>213331224
>>213331018
wait i misread your post. the virus also affecting the Vorta is a bit too dumb i dunno bout that

>>213331356
We can just say S31 made a variant that vorta could carry to help ensure more changelings got infected.

>>213331395
but I thought the virus was sexually transmitted. how prepared are you to commit to this idea anon?

>>213331224
The Vorta and Jem'Hadar were the only ones they trusted, and they couldn't really rely on the k-heads.

>>213331449
so you put the Jem'Hadar on a planet full of genius scientists and tell them for every hour that passes and there's no cure one of their family dies

>Jay-Den
Pppppssshhh ha ha ha ha

>>213331587
Is he a hybrid? Klingons don't have 2 names like that

has any episode in Star Trek ever addressed the fact that you can clone people using the pattern buffer on the transporter?

>>213330430
Underrated

>>213331663
plenty of times only clone i remember is riker's

>>213331587
I really can't get over how fucking terrible the make-up looks.

It's like they decided to make it as light and non-textured as possible so the guy wouldn't have to sit for longer than an hour to put it on. Looks so awful.

>>213331587
OH NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>213331663
You can make fucking combi-people from two different individuals of different SPECIES.
And then Captain Janeway will kill them, but still. If it can happen once it can be repeated.

I was excited for Star Trek Picard but the show was so bad Istopped watching

>>213331835
I had only watched TNG before (for the first time in like, 2011) and when Discovery came out I was like, "oh okay cool I'll watch this!" but even with my limited exposure I knew it was not Star Trek and I stopped watching after like 4 episodes. Anyone who think it's just "geezers" and stubborn trekkies who don't like this shit is delusional. It is straight up not good.

>>213331835
It has Picard in it, how bad could it be?

>>213331954
>how bad could it be?

>>213330969
>Bakula is a huge hockey fan
>personal friends with Luc Robitaille and most of the LA Kings, Luc brings the Cup to the set when Detroit wins in 02
>hur my kid's in university water polo so let's make Archer a water polo fan

>>213331985
that's probably the literal least thing wrong with Archer. I haven't watched Voyager yet but literally only Kirk didn't have some sport they were really into

Why can't they just make more TNG, with regular people?
Like fit, attractive, healthy, well adjusted people with a strong sense of community, cooperation, and social adhesion looking to use their pluck, their smarts, and their understanding (both in terms of compassion and comprehension) to solve complex problems?

>>213332030
Fuck you bigot. Star Trek is about homosex and crying now.

>>213332030
Because shhhheeeeeeiiiiit

>>213332075
>not human
Suddenly I have no problem with her lol

>>213331985
>water polo
>the michael bolton opening
Pure aloof rich guy Rick Berman shit

Why is the entire cast of SF a parody of what a "chud" says 2020s media is lmao

I like this Chimera episode with the changeling. He's calling out Odo on being a simp for solids.

>>213332030
There is no money in making tv, but they know the type of "person" who pays for streaming and they dont want them to cancel the $20/month autopay

>>213332131
he's being an absolute and total cunt. why do you like that?

>>213332183
Because solids are bigger cunts

>>213332014
Archer's great once you realize he has an arc over the series. He's a smug astronaut from a sheltered paradise who literally can't imagine the danger he's charging out into, and then gets basically beaten and bruised into becoming Kirk over years of failure
The moments early on when he's slowly realizing this are kino

>>213332321
they're really not. There are so many fucking dozens of different races who have accepted and befriended Odo and even loved and married him full well knowing he is just actual goo and all Laas offers is like
>you know you have the ability to antagonize and terrorize these people if you wanted to and act like a total sociopath?

Yeah fucktard, LITERALLY anyone can do that. of ANY race.

>>213332400
Typical anti-changeling sentiment.

>>213332354
he never becomes Kirk. fucking kill yourself for even forming that thought let alone putting it for me to read on the internet.

>>213331748
I still dont understand how this thing can exist.

>>213332400
>Becoming fog is the same thing as terrorizing
You're as bad as a Cardassian, why don't you just tell him to do the Cardassian neck trick?

>>213332321
Solids physically embody the one thing changelings can never truly have or understand - order.

This makes them seethe and act like jealous cunts all the time.

>>213332504
>suddenly filling an area full of people susceptible to inhaling poison and toxins with an unknown vapor where it would neber normally appear is terrorizing

YES LAAS. GET FUCKED AND DIE FROM S31 SPACE AIDS

>>213332422
>autism speaks
>no he doesn't he is a different man with a different face!!!!
S1 Archer is a naive astronaut who gets his ass kicked figuratively and literally all over space, causing diplomatic incidents and casualty events everywhere he goes
S4 Archer has become, through bitter experience, a seasoned warrior-diplomat who's equally at home exploring space, negotiating a treaty between antagonistic species, blowing up another ship or hand to hand combat, aka Kirk

>>213332096
>>the michael bolton opening

at least in their defense they'd planned for it to be that Calling song they were using in the promos, but forgot to lock down the TV rights before Smallville did (lol)

>>213332599
Archer literally never, ever, ever, ever, ever learned from experience. He gets manipulated, fucked, duped, kidnapped, tricked, trapped, embarrassed, used, abused by aliens
every
fucking
time.

It's almost like his fetish or something. Kirk has a fucking brain. Archer never grew one throughout the entire show.

>>213332599
>>213332662
yeah I was about to say, Archer doesn't learn shit and is still getting duped in S4

>>213332030
This is the winning formula they nailed 30 years ago but can't seem to do it anymore

>>213331713
It happened to the Boimlers too.

THE VERY LAST episode of Enterprise where anon claims Archer is literally Kirk involves him getting entangled in the personal affairs of a guy who has lied to and tricked him multiple times, lecturing his first officier about rightfully not trusting this person, and ultimately resulting in the death of his chief engineer. inb4 it was all a holodeck story that didn't happen FUCK YOU

Archer should be fucking shot in the head I actually fucking hate him he is the worst Star Trek captain there could ever possibly be.

As a reminder to all Vulcans: Even the most doughy skinned, congenial, kind-eyed human science officer (male or female) takes little inducement to become an animalistic sex fiend straight out of our most bawdy ancient poems.

As you well know, humans are known to have sex several times a day, often for hours at a time.
Plan your week accordingly.
Additionally there are numerous romantic holidays within the human calendar, but even outside these traditional coupling ceremonies you should prepare for the possibility of being lavished with attention by a human mate.
They're likely to ask you about your thoughts, your feelings, attempt to find out your interests while also sharing their own interests; they may give you intensely personal gifts or offerings of something humans have called "chocolate"; many Vulcans find this level of "caring" to be an intense breach of our carefully constructed boundaries, and may elicit powerful primordial emotions within you: irrational and intense attachment, a desire to breed even outside Pon Farr, and an overall weakening of inhibitions.
While it is well known that humans have a particular powerful odor, what's often not discussed is that human pheromones (while intense) can also be addictive. The chemicals released by humans (particularly when aroused) can bypass even the most stalwart Vulcan's mental conditioning, again resulting in intense primordial, primitive feelings of intense desire. Numbing of the nasal passages is recommended until one acclimates to, as humans themselves call it, "that good stink", a colloquial acknowledgement of the powerful drug-like sex chemicals that humans secrete from their skin.

Our next lecture will be on how to deal with the often intense sensations during copulation. Humans, as a naturally curious species with minimal regard for Vulcan boundaries, in concert with the habit of asking for your feedback, are notoriously good at inducing dangerously powerful orgasms.

>>213332662
>>213332707
>Archer literally never, ever, ever, ever, ever learned from experience
You can watch basically any episode from each season and see the development
S1 he's knocking over tables and causing incidents everywhere because he's an honest and well-meaning rookie who has no idea what he's doing
S2 he's realizing how badly over his head he's in, and relying more on the Vulcans who he understands had a point
S3 it's desperation time, has to not only fight and survive but convince an enemy to make peace with him, because his one little ship isn't going to stop an entire advanced civilization and their weapon
S4 he's stomping out fires that could cause interstellar war, while putting together an alliance of hostile species, which would grow into the Federation

Niggas how did this go over your head

>>213331748
>>213332470
it's tragic that they will 100% mess this up. when they try to give the Jem'Hadar some history, they will destroy them

"before the Founders came to our planet..."
"After we got our freedom..."

here's a fun experiment.
try to imagine the WORST backstory possible for the Jem'Hadar. you don't have to watch the show, just ask someone who did later, to find out how much worse it actually was

>>213332887
The real series finale of Enterprise was Terra Prime, a two-parter where the whole crew saves the day and the Coalition of Planets is formed
That garbage ass holodeck episode was some "love letter to fans" that was literally set in TNG

>>213332898
Not those guys (obviously); You are correct. Archer isn't my favorite captain but he absolutely DOES grow over the course of the show.
He's kind of petulant and overly chummy with his crew in S1, sort of like that boss that is so focused on team building and being friends with everyone that he loses sight of doing boss things.
Later on this improves, with him actually taking charge and delegating responsibility.

>>213332948
Agreed

>>213331748
This is what happens when you take ketracel while pregnant.

Uh oh Harry Kim has a romantic interest,this can't possibly end well

>>213332997
>>213333004

I bet a lot of the nerd asspain over Captain Bush in the first seasons would've been lessened if they'd been better at communicating that idea, that it's the story of Archer becoming the archetypical Starfleet captain, and T'Pol becoming more human

Kirk and Picard are the products of a century-plus of experience and tradition, and just like safety rules 100% of that comes from someone having a horrible experience. So we got to see the first guy making all the mistakes

>>213332935
>worst possible backstory
They were a matriarchal primitive culture of noble gatherers, never engaging in warfare or hunting, they lived peacefully as large familial groups governed over by fat niggresses.
They relied on natural remedies and ancient traditions, invoking the mystical spiritual powers of nature to provide healing and a bountiful harvest of their primary food source: Metrecel Black, a high pigment food source that made their original bodies all black (as opposed to their current white appearance).

After they got their freedom, males of the species returned to their rightful place tending to the fields while the matriarchs set about establishing a new culture bereft of honor, martial prowess, or adherence to authority.
They've recently sent their fattest, blackest, niggest Kween'Hadar to the Academy in the hopes of convincing the rest of the quadrant to do the same with their own males.

>>213331835
We all were anon. We all were

I'm sorry I really don't care what happens in ENT and I like that show despite all the stupid shit but comparing Archer to Kirk is a bridge too fucking far. Kirk is so fucking compotent it's sick. He is such the ideal for the type of person you want for this time of mission. He is a type of well rounded chameleon who can adapt to whatever is needed of him in the moment. He can be inspiring. He can be a hardass. He can be a sweetheart. He can be the bad guy. He can be the best friend. He can be the comedian. He can be smartest guy in the room. And you buy it. TOS was so amazing for making a character like that. To say Archer is that is so FUCKING offensive to me. The writing is not that. The acting is not that. The entire concept is not that. He is literally some nepobaby nobody wanted but the got the job because the actual first pick was insane, didn't follow orders and blew up the ship. I can't express this any harder: FUCK. ARCHER.

Kim fucked an alien way to go Kiiiim.

>>213333150
Kirk's the product of a century of Starfleet experience that started with Archer
What Kirk learned in the Academy was all based on Archer's fuckups and lessons. The best captain stood on the shoulders of the first captain
>He is literally some nepobaby nobody wanted but the got the job because the actual first pick was insane
That was a missed opportunity imo, Archer should've had doubts about whether he was the right pick for the job because of that. I know they had the episode where the actual best captain taught him what was up and then damaged his own career, but still

Archer had faith of the heart

>>213333464
>What Kirk learned in the Academy was all based on Archer's fuckups and lessons
NO IT WASNT BECAUSE ARCHER FUCKED UP THE SAME FUCK UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. No one with a fucking BRAIN would teach what Archer did as the example to follow. He is the textbook RETARD that even a LAYPERSON AKA THE VIEWER could do better than! That's why he is the ONLY captain in Star Trek I ever fantasize about what i would have done differently if I were him because it's SO FUCKING OBVIOUS to even a DUMB person that he SUCKS.

>>213333350
She's an engineer on a generational ship but doesn't know what a shuttlecraft is?
Also I want to see who got
>>213333333

>>213333366
How are those "le heckin magic psychic powers' doing these days?

>>213333551
>didn't watch S3 and S4

post rare siskos

>>213333671
>>213332887
I literally just finished watching it a week ago. You're retarded.

>>213332898
Currently just at the very start of S3 in my watchthrough so I'll let anons with a more fresh perspective on ENT argue about it but that's definitely how I remember it

Archer was the least impressive captain to me. Also hated the way he treated his crew.

>>213332030
that just sounds like the expanse, except not with well adjusted people

>>213333761
>The Expanse is like TNG
It's alright, anon, but no, it's not anything like TNG. It's a rag-tag crew of etc etc, not a professional crew aboard a starship answering to the same code of duty and law

>>213333789
>it's not anything like TNG
I know it's not, but that second sentence is basically the expanse

>>213330297
She shows her bush in Kalifornia so there's that.

Up next is Badda Bing Badda Bang which should've been titled Badda Bing Badda Boom

>>213333829
I only watched I think the first two seasons but I don't recall it trending in that direction. Honestly the show didn't grab me and as I was watching it, they jettisoned that Indian guy for using his fame to get laid at a convention. It was one of the most retarded things I saw from the whole MeToo thing so it helped me drop the show (I started watching it late)

>>213333877
>they jettisoned that Indian guy for using his fame to get laid at a convention.
who?

>I don't recall it trending in that direction.
basically the entire show is "we're about to die/millions of people are about to die, how do we use our skills and experiences to prevent that"

>>213331835
Season 3 was the swan song the TNG cast never got in the movies. Ignore all the rest of the show, just watch Picard Season 3 and enjoy.

>>213333709
>S3 and S4 went over his head

>>213333908
Am I thinking of the wrong show here? The Indian guy was the Martian pilot. During the MeToo thing two women claimed he used his celebrity to influence them into having sex with him at a convention, saying he was a star of the show.

Somehow, this was enough to get him canceled and they immediately killed off his character. A lot of people were pissed about it.

>>213334015
can you please point out where what I said was wrong? thanks

>>213333715
>Archer was the least impressive captain to me.
That's because the whole point of the series is him going from a overconfident astronaut to the archetypical Starfleet captain
The Vulcans are 100% right, humanity is not at all ready to go charging out into a galaxy they do not understand full of dangers they can't imagine. He's basically forced to git gud at the cost of a bunch of lives and his own self-respect. That's how they sold the role to Bakula in the first place
Every other captain in the franchise is an experienced officer of a centuries-old elite paramilitary organization. Archer is a very bright and brave but completely naive guy from an unknown backwater that hasn't had poverty or conflict in generations, protected by a benevolent major power. He has to become what the other captains started as

>>213334096
me:
>didn't watch S3 and S4
you:
>hur yes I did
me:
>you managed not to observe the most obvious character arc in the franchise
If you think S4 Archer is the same dude as S1 Archer because they have the same face, you are autism personified

>>213334076
is that why they killed off his character? I assumed he died in the books too

>>213334129
so, you can't. which was obvious already to everyone. cool

>>213334129
what part of this is wrong?

>>213332887
>THE VERY LAST episode of Enterprise where anon claims Archer is literally Kirk involves him getting entangled in the personal affairs of a guy who has lied to and tricked him multiple times, lecturing his first officier about rightfully not trusting this person, and ultimately resulting in the death of his chief engineer.

>>213334170
>explain to me how the most obvious character change happened, which I somehow managed not to notice over literal hours of watching the show
That's a tall order, autisanon, watch a random episode of S4 and then go watch a random episode of S1. One guy's a Starfleet captain doing Starfleet captain stuff, the other guy's an astronaut accidentally setting fires and causing diplomatic incidents between species he's just met
>>213334239
>b-b-but w-what about that h-holodeck episode of TNG
lmao desperate
That's an episode about Riker doing a Holodeck program on the 1701-D

the more of discovery and picard I watch the more I realise we're NEVER getting anything as special as TNG and DS9 were ever again

They must be worshiped

>>213334366
Then make your own, and animate it using AI text-to-video, or machinima using a Star Trek video game. Stop complaining and actually do something.

>>213334455
give me 250 million dollars and I will

>>213334366
it's up to us now.

what does /trek/ think about Moopsy? Fun character IMO

>>213334166
Yeah they immediately killed his character off as soon as it came out

>>213334494
It doesn't take that much to do it yourself. Stop being Jewish.

>>213334683
Are you a tv series director?

>>213334683
We just need to assassinate kurtzman, goldsman, et all. And replace them with trekpu.

>>213334366
DS9 is meh Voyager is better. You gotta hand it to Cirroc Lofton though, never did anyone do less work as a series regular.

>>213334758
>DS9 is meh Voyager is better.
insane and incorrect take, do better anon

>>213334708
What, like that takes special skill or something? There are plenty of drugged-out, no-talent idiots that somehow fall into entertainment-industry jobs. We've been able to do that with machinima for ages, and now we can use AI text-to-video. Stop pretending Hollywood is special, and do it yourself. You think you have better ideas for Trek's direction? Then write them! Otherwise, you're just another useless seether.

>>213334747
or just do it yourself, dummy. stop being a lazy beaner

guys.
I'm going to make the new trek....

it will not be set in space though.......

>just make your own Trek show with AI
This might be possible when I'm like 170 years old like Dr. McCoy but somehow I don't think I'm going to make it that long.

I haven't seen a single AI generated video that wasn't complete shit, or very obviously fake, or riddled with oddities and errors and well, that technology is just incredibly limited right now. Keep plugging away at it, though, and it'll improve one day.
But not as soon as you think.

>>213334842
DS9 is extremely reddit. Sisko even just went on a rant about how negros weren't allowed in 1960s Vegas. Gimme a break. It's 2482 or something. You're at war. It's so Reddit it's painful. Still better than nuTrek but not by much. Voyager carries the spirit of TNG. Good captain, good crew, lots of different adventures. Just more fun than DS9. Sorry pally. Vic Fontaine is cool anyway.

>>213331748
What the fuck is this...

>>213335149
DS9 ended over 6 years before reddit was created, and fuck you for making me look up when reddit was started.

>>213335149
One of the most retarded moments of S7 for sure but DS9 is still great despite S7's failings

>>213335205
DS9 was proto-woke and proto-Reddit. Sorry I guess I should've called it Digg or something kek.

>>213335229
I don't hate DS9 per se, but watching it at the same time as Voyager i just prefer Voyager episodes by far. Fact is I enjoy triggering Niners by pointing out that Voyager is more fun.

>>213333941
>gary stus, nepo babies and forced memberberries
I shall not.

>>213335251
TNG has an episode where everyone is fighting over a superweapon that you can become immune to through letting go of the hatred and bigotry in your heart.

I'd say TNG has more episodes about things like that than DS9 does. Just instead of Measure of a Man where the issue of slavery is masked in Data being an android, it's just more on the nose in DS9 with Far Beyond the Stars and.. well really just that episode and the weird comments about Vegas.

>>213335251
>woke
anon, TOS was the most 'woke' thing on TV when it aired. You might be a fan of the wrong franchise. Go watch Starship Troopers and pretend it isn't satire or something

>>213332075
she's kinda cute desu

>>213335314
TOS typically cloaked its anti-bigotry messages with a bit more subtlety. But not always (le black and white face guys). Pic related is probably their best expression of "never judge a book by its over".

>>213330389
ent is such a comfy show.

>>213333857
proofs?

>>213335382
Uhura playing a competent officer was fairly revolutionary at the time

>>213335310
God everybody goes on about Sisko's vegas comments but everybody leaves out the fact that Cassidy immediately calls him out on that bullshit and he changes his mind.

>>213335675
Right but if you've seen the documentary about DS9 you know that Brooks himself had not appeared in the Fontaine segments previously because of that objection he had, that a black man wouldn't have been allowed in that period they were celebrating. They added it in for that reason which is still very much a stupid thing that it was added at all, even with Yates' correction.

>>213331748
I'm 79% sure this is the kween that was revealed to be the original doctor who

>>213331748
>can still easily tell it's an obese sheboon diversity hire

>>213336185
It would be black erasure if they made her look like the character she's supposed to be portraying.

>>213331748
>>213332470
>>213335162
100% this is a male Jem'Hadar who felt like xhe was a female, future science made xer 100% woman. this is the new order of things

>>213330389
She would've been even comfier and our mightiest Battle Cruiser during the awesome Romulan Earth war.

Fuck Rape Moonves to hell!

>>213336375
that goes along with the post-std crowd
>all male jem'hadar is heckin' misogyny
>wait, let's make it so one wants to be female, and also xhe can give birth!
>quick, grab the most obese and ugly sheboon you can find to play xhe
>aren't we so heckin' morally righteous and good people!

>>213331748
>I identify as a female Klingon

>>213331954
If actually not bot-bait, just watch the 3rd season.

>>213337810
long horn and pupper

>let's do a prequel but ignore the canon!
>but why?
>hate.

would you rather watch an ep of STD or an ep of comedians having coffee in cars with jerry seinfeld?

>>213338130
std, easy :/

>>213338130
The Norm episode of Cars has the legendary Cosby joke

>>213338137
But Jerry Seinfeld is an experienced, heavyweight comedian.

Man Course Oblivion is something

Duplicate janeway goes full insaneway
Just nsisting they continue on to earth even after they learn what they are
What the hell

>>213338178
I think he's the least funny character on 'Seinfeld' and can't remember laughing at him or any of his jokes

>>213331748
i bet my ass they had Cardassians in head when they made this shit but writers so retarded they wrote Jem'hadar.

>>213338284
Watching this now it's next on my watchlist how odd.

>>213338130
The Alec Baldwin episodes were kino

>>213338402
There's still time for them to show off Dukat's transgender descendant.

>>213338130
I'd have to go with Jerry on this one.

Also the reason TV Shows aren't good anymore is because they aren't making them to make money anymore, they are making them entirely for propaganda.

When did the fucking retcon happen that made the NCC-1701 Enterprise flagship of the Federation? The whole appeal of original TOS is that it wasn't but one of their general Heavy Cruisers like the D-7 was for the Klingons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X69aDIFFsc
Vid unrelated.

>>213338284
Okay so technically that wasn't really Janeway so I give actual Janeway a pass

>>213331614
must be

>>213331614
He's a Kangon.

>>213331954
That's the thing: it doesn't have Picard in it, it has Patrick Stewart

>persecuted shape shifters enslave a race of goyim and strip them of their culture to be more obedient
>also enslave a race of violent golems, and flood their community with drugs
ehrm.... what's going one here...

>>213339049
S1+2 is basically the Patrick Stewart show.
S3 tries to pretend mostly that S1+2 doesn't exist and kinda works as nostalgia bait.

>>213338978
When did they make Kirk's Enterprise the flagship?

>>213338978
I don't think it was ever said or implied that the connie was the flagship, but it was definitely stated at some point in TNG. I'm pretty sure romulan g'kar at some point makes mention of his intent to display the broken hull of the flagship of the federation (ent: d) in the romulan capitol

>>213339406
every time I hear that line I imagine this massive plaza miles wide displaying a dozen gigantic trophies of victories

>>213330431
The Dominion Vorta treat them like pagan savages who need to hear the 'good news' of the Founders. It writes itself.

With unironic parallels of uber-Christian colonialists meeting indigenous populations in an unwoke old skool Star Trek thought-provoking kinda way.

>some neglected/forgotten planet/moon/area used by the early Founders for genetic testing and selective breeding of the Vorta species
>maybe rejected and left to fend for themselves for whatever reason, unsuitable, low IQ, independent, animalistic
>discovered by uber-Dominion Vorta fag like Weyoun
>in far outer region so he can't contact Founders directly about it, and tries to interact with them
>sorta part of the programming of the Dominion Vorta to propagandise the idea the Founders are gods to other Vorta, so you find out their belief is self-reinforcing when you put Vorta in groups, but in this story plays out as missionary preaching/conversion/crusade
>'Weyoun' offended they don't worship the Founder and tries to convert them
>hilarity and shit ensues
>maybe one of the wild Vorta are based on Weyoun's genome, (because Jeffrey Combs doesn't have enough parts to play in DS9 already).

I think the underlying theme and plot should be based on the IRL North Sentinel Island and known interactions and incidents with them, (the island has probably the last remaining uncontacted humans on Earth). They react violently to outsiders due to previous interactions going sour, and the Indian government has laws against contacting them for 'muh cultural preservation' or some shit. Personally I think it's a travesty. Imagine if you were a kid on that island with an IQ of 150, living like a primitive, and then later you found out about the real world, computers, and robots and shit - and that some faggots kept it from you out of some hippy-dippy 'noble savage' ideal, leaving you scratching around in the dirt in the CURRENT YEAR. I'd be fucking pissed.

Perfect philosophical conflict for old skool Trek.

>>213339229
Appears to be a nuTrek thing.
Guess can be ignored.
>>213339464
Now that would be something epic to see.

>>213339506
Actual plot:
>Weyoun finds wild Vorta
>initially thinks they are normal Vorta shipwrecked or something, and hilarity ensues when he finds out they don't worship the Founders and don't know what he's talking about with Dominion shit
>Feels the need to preach Founder shit to them, with the very noble intention of bringing them up to speed on 24th Century shit so they can join their rightful place and know the joy of serving the Founders too
>Kinship with them magnified by running into wild genetic original 'Weyoun', (they have a narrow genetic variation due to genetic manipulation due to technobabble bullshit)
>Their resistance to his training has the Jem'Hadar trigger happy about just exterminating them all for their heathenism and heresy, but Weyoun continues to defend them, so drama and hilarity ensues
>'Ug Weyoun's logical pushing back against the preaching gives Dominion Weyoun pause and we see a little waver in his faith
>In the a Founder does show up in response to the message, recognises them as a past failed experiment thought eradicated, and orders them all destroyed ... right when it seems like Weyoun was just getting through to 'Ug Weyoun' - like he sees how he reacts to the Founder on sight with awe - only to have his god order his extermination over Weyoun's attempt to object.
>Weyoun sees 'himself' die ... yet again
>Dramatic Combs death and last words as he dies in his own arms saying some shit to the effect of dying happy because he saw a Founder
>So experiment wasn't a total failure after all, and Weyoun almost saved them ... but he's a little disturbed by what he saw, and the two of them kind of switched places at the last second in terms of their faith, Ug Weyoun became a believer, and surviving Weyoun is unsure
>Which if slotting this incident into the timeline right could be the impetus for the doubts/defections seen in other Weyouns.
>Founder side-eyes Weyoun sensing it, but saying nothing as they board the ship to leave

>>213339760
funny I was going to post something very similar except it involved sisko or really any fed character maybe bashir being their as well and trying to convince them that weyoun is wrong and the founders aren't gods, I had the same ending as you did except it included bashir looking on in frustration and defeat when he realized right at the end they did see the founders as gods, so fuck you I guess I just deleted my entire write up because its too similar to yours.

Things I wanted to see in the TNG movies
>Picard/Crusher romance
>Romulan/Vulcan unification
>Riker with his own command
>Dominion War/DS9 crossover
Anything more you would add?

>>213339863
yeah a dune buggy chase

>>213339863
A romulan plot that isn't retarded, and worf could be their because he's the Klingon ambassador and you could get a Klingon vs romulan but, something that's always referenced but never really shown

>>213339816
You should post it or do a pass on mine. Obviously you'd be unlikely to get an episode of DS9 that hyper-focused on just a few Dominion characters - funny as it would be to see Combs actually playing most of the characters in an episode. So naturally you'd have to include other members of the main cast. Sounds like you have the right idea there, and the more ideas the better.

>>213339863
Wormhole travel to alpha quadrant in big motion picture style

>>213339955
too late here but yea a combination I like your idea f weyoun being stunned by the founder killing them and having his faith shook it ties in well with my bashir idea since in a way both of them have there beliefs shook in different ways, as both of them have been proselytizing against each other throughout the episode in the end an understanding passes between them

>>213339968
WOW a wormhole created by ILM would be amazing. I imagine a tunnel effect like In the Mouth of Madness, or Event Horizon

>>213339935
>>213339863
Unification could have been a good starting point for a Romulan plot. It came up so often in TNG, I thought eventually it would lead somewhere.
That would have been a good excuse to have Leonard Nimoy in the movie as well, I know they really wanted him to cameo in what ended up becoming Generations.

>>213340411
my thoughts exactly everyone is meeting on romulus for unification talks, shenanigans ensue

>>213340471
Shit if they really wanted that dumb ass Shinzon in the movie, that still would have been a better set up

>>213339863
I always had this idea for a mega-crossover film where the Captains basically go back in time to the origin of the Borg
>Delta Quadrant in the past
>alien planet with humanoids which is like a near-future pre-Utopia where they're just getting Elon Musk brain chips
>promises to unite the global population with instant communication
>the head of the military suspiciously played by a Borg Queen actress who is kinda evil-looking and obsessed with winning a final victory over the planet's other remaining superpower in order to unite the planet under one government
>she insists on a 'back door' in the brain chips where the military can influence people for their own good, (eg. Rapid city evacuation), to only be used in an 'emergency' of course
>meanwhile back in the present future, the Borg have somehow been taken over by the Pah-Wraiths, or formed some alliance or some shit, so they are flying around in glowing red cubes that are more powerful than green ones
>Janeway and Picard are called in as experts on Borg
>Sisko, still on ice, will eventually be called back into the mix by the Prophets
>Earth in peril
>Utilising information from Seven of Nine, they travel back into the past to find a way to prevent the Borg/Wraith connection, but the Wraiths hit them with a beam that sends them back to their origin instead, (or maybe the Prophets helped)
>In the past the Borg Queen is using her 'emergency' powers accidentally creating the Borg, becoming their queen in the process, (more than what she bargained for)
>Borg start assimilating local planets in their system truly becoming something greater
>high focus on Janeway/Queen bitch fight, Picard overcoming assimilation fear/trauma
>Janeway finally detonates Omega particle to destroy local subspace for multiple parsecs trapping the Borg at sublight, slowing their expansion, and pissing off the Queen who will remember and meet her in the future
>Sisko defeats the Wraiths forever, in the process fulfilling his destiny

>>213340568
Congrats on proving that there’s at least one person who could ruin Star Trek even worse than Alex Kurtzman.

>>213340649
Aw shucks.

But even I'm not the good a bad writer - even for the love of trying.

>>213340557
or just have a good villian instead hell its the last movie have not tasha show up but secretly she's working for idk some talshiar top bud guy maybe she switches sides and dies and redeems herself in the end

>>213331587
>focus: sciences
same vibe

>>213340715
well he was riding a bike their was a lighting strike now he reads real fast he's good at science and math Black Doctor

>>213335378
yeah that jaw that comprises 50% of her head and that receding hairline are just adorable

>>213340568
That's too much. They barely had enough money and time to write anything worthwhile for 5/7 cast members to do,so three captains?
If you split that idea into two - let's say Star Trek 8 & 9 are DS9 and VOY crossovers respectively, I think that would be more logical.
I don't know how to blame in this regard, wether it's Rick Berman or Paramount, but they did not utilise the world they created in the spin offs what so ever.

>>213340411
>I know they really wanted him to cameo in what ended up becoming Generations
That's why he turned down Generations, for he was too good for a cameo.

>>213339406
The EntD is repeatedly called the Federation flagship so I assume whoever wrote that jsut guessed and said every Enterprise was

>>213340852
I heard he was offered to direct as well, but he requested the script to be changed.
He just knew straight away Generations would be a stinker. Nimoy was so smart and versed in this world of Star Trek.
I miss him

>>213331748
What the fuck is this thing? I haven't watched a Trek show in years.

>>213340778
I forgot the part where Shatner jumps a horse over a trench while riding on the surface of a Borg Cube. You're saying that would make it too expensive?
j/k

>>213331835
I love 90s Trek, didn't watch Discovery because of the look of the lead character, but everything else I'd heard about it made it sound shit.

Picard, I thought I'd give it a shot, it's gonna be like TNG right? I suffered through 6 episodes and gave up. People say S3 is better, but I dont want to waste time on it.

>>213332948
>some "love letter to fans" that was literally set in TNG
Braga and Berman jerking each other off

Watching the one where Tuvok becomes a retard

>>213341303
the fuck is that wallpaper

>>213341303
explain yourself anon what the fuck is going on with that wallpaper?

>>213341515
It's a thing of beauty

>>213341607
1965 called they want their aesthetic back

anon I really want to see the rest of that wall

>>213341651
I wanted a jungle look

>>213341671
cozy yet with hint of serial killer, I like it

>>213341671
not bad honestly, but wish wood in furniture was of the same colours.

>>213341711
Yeah the fireplace needs the light part changed, tha dark parts are actually stickers over light wood. Buts it's almost been 3 years now and I still haven't attached the mirror to the wall, so probably will just leave it the fireplace too.

>>213341671
I have a 20 year old bedsheet with a similar colour pattern and an ex-GF once called it horrendous.
But t-b-h your interior looks good. The black ceiling and wood compliments it. For some reason it reminds me of Miami (I've never been).

>>213341671
At first I was like, oh yeah I don't know what those anons are talking about I kinda like the wallpaper.

But now I see I was wrong, this looks horrible, it should be used sparingly in small sections, keep it behind the TV and paint the rest with solid colors and for the love of god paint your ceiling white.

>>213341732
Only issue is dark colour on the walls and ceiling is there no light in nooks and crannies at all. I have to use a phone torch to see in the corners even with the 5x bulbs on.

>>213334366
TNG/DS9 have managed to get BETTER over time because 21st century small screen sci-fi is so awful.

>>213341768
Wanted to make a canopy of trees like pic related, but it seems like it was going too far.

>>213341825
I didnt want it white that's why I painted it dark blue like a nights sky

>>213341857
You want it white like clouds

>>213341882
Like everyone else's house? Nah

>>213341671
IT IS WRONG! IT IS WRONG! I HATE IT!

I think it's fine, anon. It's your room, you're the one spending time there, you're the only one that needs to like it.

>>213341482
>>213341515
NTA but I think it's cool, my walls are plain white and I kinda hate it.

>>213341904
There might be a reason why everyone has a white ceiling though they reflect light and give the room a spacious feel.

Ever consider orangeish pink like pil-related?
Would go well with the dark blue on the wall(s)

>>213341971
But i want to be the cosy star trek watching room

>>213342035
That anon's onto something. Sunsets are cozy.

You could also paint some stars in your "night sky" sections.

>you were assimilated by the collective
>at wolf 359
goddammit Voy why do you have to be so fucking stupid, all those borg died ffs, if anyone replies with "you think in such 3 dimensional terms" I will fucking punch you

>>213335130
>pathetic excuses
You're not willing to get off your dead ass and be the change you want to see in the world. You're also too dumb and lazy to work on improving the state of the art of AI text-to-video. And you still won't even take the first step of writing your own Star Trek stories, so you'd have something to animate. No wonder you're a NEET. Fine, then, seethe away, but remember, you are what you're really seething about.

>>213334564
Moopsy was cool. Too bad it's probably only good for other episodes where it slaughters everything that gets in its way.

>>213342665
The only thing you're right about in your post is the part about being too dumb and lazy to work on improving the state of the art of AI text-to-video because I'm not a software engineer, nor am I interested in going back to school to get another degree in an entirely separate discipline from the one I have already.

You feeding shitty text prompts and generating some guy who doesn't look like Captain Kirk with 8 fingers on each hand turning slightly to the left in an 6 second clip isn't improving anything other than your already-existing delusions of grandeur.
I'm not even saying the technology is useless, it's just a long, long way from being what you seem way too emotionally invested in it becoming.

>>213342665
Also for the record I work upwards of 60 hours a week, kek, and my availability here is directly linked to my job.

>>213339863
>>213340568
The first step is to write your own screenplays for these. If you can't, or won't, do that, then you really have no right to complain what others write.

>>213342775
>If you can't, or won't, do that, then you really have no right to complain what others write.
Anon, you really are a fucking retard.
>AND YET YOU PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY fallacy

>>213341482
>>213341515
>>213341705
>>213341740
>>213341929
You're just seething because your mommy won't let you decorate your room the way you want to. Plus, you're still mad at her for asking you to clean your room.

>>213342846
my moms dead anon and I left home when I was 17, what a bizarre projection

>>213342775
I will, one day
Promise you'll read it?

>>213342665
holy shit stop shilling ai slop in every thread, you sound like an inbred crypto bro

>>213343176
This is better sloppa anon

>>213343176
more

>>213343176
less

>>213343176
none

little bit

>>213343499
> You have it upside down commander. It should read "VSVN"

>Captain, according to my readings, this borg has never had sex.
>*dramatic music*
>[fades to black]

>>213343604
>well you two should get along like a house on fire lieutenant

>>213343499
Did NASA exist in the ST universe?

>>213343637
No, that image is shopped.

>>213343637
yes its mentioned many times and the intro for ent shows apollo missions

>>213343176
I think the next round of graphics cards will make AI episodes viable.

>>213342864
Then you're in the top 1% of 4chan users. What I said still applies to the bottom 99%.

>>213342720
>You feeding shitty text prompts and generating some guy who doesn't look like Captain Kirk with 8 fingers on each hand turning slightly to the left in an 6 second clip isn't improving anything other than your already-existing delusions of grandeur.
>I'm not even saying the technology is useless, it's just a long, long way from being what you seem way too emotionally invested in it becoming.
AI video can already keep consistent characters by referencing static master models. "A long, long way" is basically 18 months at this point.

>>213343109
Maybe, if I can find it. You can post it on AO3 like everyone else, and hope someone cares. That's what I do with mine.

>>213343637
They made one whole lame-ass movie about the Voyager probe, dude.

>>213343170
You really have no idea what AI is capable of these days. And you sound very jealous.
>>213344312
This. Thank you.

>>213342493
I screamed "NO!" at my TV when I saw that, too!

that whole episode felt like an awful fan-fiction made by somebody who has only seen a little bit of actual Star Trek. a lot of dumb moments where the writer must have been thinking "oh! this will be so cool!" with nobody to tell them how terrible it was.

the ending was BS, the colonists made the cube self-destruct, to "save" Voyager. but Star Trek clearly established (IN the Wolf 359 episode where these colonists should have died) that the Borg cannot do that. they can't willingly destroy parts of themselves "it's like trying to cut off your own finger, you just can't do it!" Beverly quote.

>>213344312
I'll check back with you in 18 months then.

>>213344596
You're gonna need practice with AI text-to-video prompting to make use of it. Do you really think you're going to hit the ground running with no experience? Face facts...you can't do it, you won't do it, and you're not going to make any sort of effort.

>>213331835
Same. I watched four episodes of the first season and stopped. Watched the first episode of season 3 and I have written off Star Trek from my life.

Star Trek ended in 2005.

>>213344596
This anon went on to create and successfully win a shower argument.

>>213344623
Not with that attitude.

>>213333941
No. Fuck you. You like shit.

Can we like, stop fighting?

>>213344723
Thems fightin' words

I look forward to laughing at AI jeets in 18 months.

It really is "India Superpower 2020" all over again.

>>213344512
but you can cut off your own finger or toe, though. It's what you have to do if you get frostbite beyond a certain point or gangrene sets in or something, plenty of examples of people doing that to save themselves throughout history.

Will he show up in Starfleet Academy?

>>213345326
>professor Noonien Soong taught there for many years.

>>213344821
It's not really a prediction when the current models can already do it.

>>213335482
She answered the space phone anon. She’s Pam from the office only black and in space

>>213338284
>we’re out of coffee

>>213341671
>this is one of those Star Trek fans I was telling you about

>>213345522
anon you've got 18 months to make an AI generated episode of Star Trek that isn't shit, better get to work

Will they ever make star trek I can jerk off to again?

>>213345860
That’s what reruns are for

>>213345282
sure, that was brought up back in the time of the Locutus scene, too. it was sloppy even then. (though it gave the Borg a noble nobody-left-behind sort of edge to their unity, which was not picked up on)

it would have been so much easier for Voyager crew to have put a "just in case" remote-bomb on the cube. (including fail-safe detonation technobabble, Borg won't be able to detect or disarm blah blah) and in the end it was Voyager that had to destroy it

whoops, I forgot. if Voyager had remote bombs they could have put one on the Caretaker and been home already

Good job to the anons who finished brainstorming the Vorta episode that was fun.
>>213339760
going with this idea I want them to meet the original Keevan too

>>213345769
Only one option left.

>>213346089
Doesn't Voyager start doing exactly this later on with the Borg, though?

I swear I remember them teleporting tricobalt explosives aboard a Cube at some point

>>213346124
>Good job to the anons who finished brainstorming the Vorta episode that was fun.
This, you guys really knocked my ides out of the park.

>>213346125
Need a Ransom version of this because he actually did it, the absolute madman kek

>>213344356
>samefagging

>>213346166
He harvested a few aliens for fuel. We used to hunt whales for their oil. Ransom did nothing wrong

>>213346307
if whales were sentient and could communicate with us like these aliens could, that'd be a different story

>>213346326
what communication, they were basically radioactive space dolphins

>>213346089
ST: Voyager revealed the Borg leaves drones behind, in the "Collective" episode. Their cube had been infected with something deadly to them, and the Borg disconnected them from the Collective.

>>213346351
What do you mean? You could summon them and that alien race communicated with them regularly and acted as intermediaries

The Equinox just murdered them straight up and used them for fuel

>>213346269
Not at all. Your accusation of samefagging comes across as projection.

>>213346124
>>213346165
You guys should totally write up a story/screenplay for this! I can't help, since I don't know DS9 at all. But this is something you could post on AO3, and if it's good enough, maybe you could be motivated to use AI text-to-video to produce it! More of this needs to happen. Part of me is regretful I could never warm up to DS9; your project sounds like fun.

THERE ARE FOUR SHIFTS

>>213346727
THERE ARE FOUR SHITS

>>213346135
The time they beamed a torpedo aboard a Borg scout vessel

>>213346388
I thought it was pretty clear that the virus damaged the ship and that disconnected them

>>213346166
Decent rendition of First Officer/Captain Ransom, but it's missing the razor stubble.

>>213344095
I think about ChatGPT every single time I watch "Schisms"

>>213343176
holy shit
I need this dancing on my lap

>>213341948
To be fair, that does look like a nice bus seat
You've been visited by the Noh-Jay Consortium.

>>213331663
Cloning is AGAINST THE LAW FUCKING MORON THEIR WAS LITERALLY A WHOLE EPISODE WHERE THE CREW MURDERED THEIR CLONES IN COLD BLOOD

>>213347239
Given how frequently the bridge crew of several starships violated the Prime Directive, your bleating about "muh Law" comes across as feeble.

Why don't they use vaccines in the 24th century?

>>213347027
Tuvok is my favorite Vulcan as well as my nigga

>>213347522
It’s a condition comparable to measles

>>213346326
Did you not watch the movie?

>>213346388
leaves drones behind where? there was one cube at wolf 359, so if it was assimilating any drones they would've been on board, and if they were on board they would've exploded when the cube does at earth. if they left drones behind on the ships the cube attacked, they would've been discovered, and even if they weren't, there's no way for them to have ended up in the delta quadrant

>>213348018
I think in Unimatrix Zero as well they have someone go "I was assimilated at Wolf 359" bitch how?? The Borg ship annihilated the fleet, they didn't stop to take samples. The writers forgot their own shit.

>>213346405
You can summon fish by throwing bait in the water. The aliens worshiped them as spirits of good luck. There was no communication going on.
>>213346465
>doubling down when the poster id is the same
Sad!

>>213348075
>they didn't stop to take samples
how do you know? were you there?

>>213348130
>>213348130
>>213348130

>>213348075
yeah that's what i'm referring to

>>213348018
I literally mentioned the Voyager episode in question—"Collective"—and posted a screenshot from it, of the Borg drones left behind.

>>213348086
What poster ID? This isn't /pol/.

>>213348128
TBOBW says the Borg were in a hurry to get to Earth.