It’s just Nazis are l’evil slav edition
Very noisy and annoying

>>213332737 (OP)
Nazis are evil and you are brown

No, it's Slavs are bad: the flick.

>>213332737 (OP)
war is.... le good?
*record scratch*

>>213332901
Soviet Communism good Slavs are totally human

>>213332999
Strawman

You didn't watch the movie.

I feel like knowing nothing about film as a medium is a prerequisite to being "moved" by artsy-fartsy feel-bad war movies. So insufferably saccharine in their attempts to be "disturbingly real".

>>213333013
I’m watching it right now… I’m watching the 5 minute nazis in reverse scene

>>213332737 (OP)
The Soviet Story is the opposite ruskies are worse than nazis uk edition

>>213332737 (OP)
slavs pretending they didnt suck schnitzel cock to delay their inevitable as usual

>>213332999
>>213333055
>>213333077
Thread is hitting crazy digits

>>213332737 (OP)
It's hard to determine honestly. One are natural sociopath robots (germanics) the others are natural alcoholic degens (russkies)

>stomfags are still seething
How could one movie break so many chuds?

>>213333113
Oh and just to add, neither are brown which is a monumental benefit that outweighs the negatives

>>213333055
Yeah but you the say movie is Nazis are le bad (they are) but the reality is that the massacre portrayed in the movie was done with the help of Ukrainian collaborators.

>>213332737 (OP)
>shoots an innocent baby
stopped watching right there

>>213333151
It was in Belarus, but regardless, they depict Slav collaborators in the movie.

>>213333114
>>213333151
Why didn’t the soviets make a holodomor movie ?

>>213333175
Ahhh so that’s why they were acting retarded

>>213333207
Because there’s no evidence of it just like the holohoax

>>213333207
Because its not as dramatic as organised murder. Watching some rando peasants slowly starve to death for 2 hours would be boring.

Zero physical evidence for the Holodomor and the Holocaust.
>inb4: s-shut up
Fine then, show me the bomes to prove they’re real.
Bomes = evidence
No bomes = no evidence
Simple as.

>>213333266
zero evidence the earth isn't flat either

>>213333266
Bomes? You want it? It's yours my friend, as long as you have enough rubies.

>>213332737 (OP)
The faggot who made this was a communist partisan, he literally just projected his own atrocities onto the Germans.

>>213333317
German atrocities were well documented by their own selves. It's a war, this shit happens. Stop being a crybaby bitch about it.

>>213333337
may I see them?

>>213333317
>For eight years, filming could not begin because the State Committee for Cinematography (Goskino) would not accept the screenplay, considering it too realistic, calling it propaganda for the "aesthetics of dirtiness" and "naturalism".

>>213333353
holocaust, cauterizing black people, war crimes against poland etc

>>213333353
So you can cope and say
>t-that's fake
? lol

>>213332901
>moustache man does a heckin holocaust
>pic related to every European nation in response
well I guess fair is fair

>>213332901
Leftoids are evil pedophiles

>>213333415
>>213333442
Yes, we know you're new to the website.

>>213332737 (OP)
Murder all naziniggers

>>213333317
In terms of depravity, I'd say the Japs were the worst but they've always been perverts and that reflects even here. The biggest atrocities on the Russian side were actually in regards to their own people.
And Germans aren't known to be above atrocities so in a nutshell, everyone involved participated in it. One could argue that in a twist of irony, the American bomb was almost the most humane atrocity in how quickly it struck down most of the living targets and put an end to the war.

>>213332737 (OP)
The lives of the animals needless killed in this movie are worth more than the lives of all slavs that have existed, exist today, and will ever exist.

To bring the thread back to the film. It sucked. If you are going to an evil nazi movie at least making it worth watching. Schindler’s list is watchable, saving Private Ryan extremely watchable

>>213333567
Make*

>>213333567
This is the best evil nazi movie precisely because its hard to watch and not an overly sentimental and dramatic oscar bait movie like schindler's list or an action flick like saving private ryan.

>>213333567
Manchild take desu

>>213333653
>>213333693
Maybe I’m pseud but nobody acts like the people in the film except Slavs
shit was annoying

>>213333653
Nah he's right. If they wanted to do a horror thing they could've gone 20x harder on the nazis, this movie's just lame

>>213333459
you want to kill nature, you want to kill the truth?

>>213333766
You simply prefer more hollywoodized movies and soviet cinema is too raw for you. That's fine but come and see is closer to reality. Schindler and Pvt. Ryan, while competently made, are more like fairytale versions of the events.

>>213333766
So it was an accurate depiction of Slavic peasants getting massacred by Nazis, which is what the film set out to do.

>>213333848
I guess if you want to watch some retard diving into bogs for no reason for a quarter of a movie then you are 2 cultured 4 me

>>213333567
Just watch Fury instead, it's action kino. Come and See isn't a bad film but not the type for you.

>>213334126
I did like fury up until the end which was a bit silly

>>213333337
oof so close

really bad movie

>Battle of Towton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karKmvUbAdg
>King Richard III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoE7DcAROAc
>French Revolutionary Wars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iODmm63Knc
>Battle of Waterloo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-foPIB4rrJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEG8tMHh9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-NNAeE6vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2S4ZB3kqQ
>WW1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7iSSGq_dL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8CotoXCs0
>Slavyansk (WW2):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CexaGO__O44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Llx2SadNqI
>Battle of Stalingrad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18jG8mOpu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0HPqx1PKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiRYAXDbyzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdZjSf-i-4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFo-TswRss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGgGqH7Uw0
>Barbara Pit massacre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWZ4wY4Mqwc
>Japanese bomes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpYp-am2bIc
Now do the same for the Holodomor and the Holocaust.

>>213333415
>>213333833
Doesn't explain why only right-wingers today siding with Israel

>>213334923
It's actually good though. Like guys, I know you all like to pretend the holocaust didn't happen for the memes, but like, actually watch Come and See if you haven't already. You'd be doing yourself a disservice to label it as just another anti-war propaganda film. Actually watch it before you make threads like this, and for that matter, actually watch all films before you make threads about them. I'm just saying, it's okay to actually use critical thought for once in your life and allow a piece of art to challenge you. Come and See is a masterpiece, anyone who says otherwise is a troll who lives a very pathetic life who hates the mere concept of honesty in film. It scares them to imagine that human beings could be capable of any such atrocities as the ones committed in the holocaust, so they bury their head in the sand and shroud themselves in irony. Don't follow the herd.

>>213333045
You talk like a huge faggot.

>>213335088
It's just neocons and neolibs doing that. Leftists were totally ignorant about Israel until this latest slaughter. They would call the right wing guys Nazis and/or conspiracy theorists for pointing out anything negative about Israel or Jews before that.

>>213335147
See >>213333536. Come and See is on the level of Cannibal Holocaust: a cheap exploitation film.

>>213335252
Cheap rage bait. Try harder.

>>213335252
Cannibal Holocaust is great but the two really have nothing in common. You sound stupid as fuck, for lack of using the gay ass "media illiterate term".

>>213335337
Explain how animals needed to be needlessly mutilated and slaughtered for Cope and Seethe to be a good film. I'm waiting

>>213335364
Are you a meat eater?

ITT leftoids and tankies mad online that people see through their shitty propaganda film despite it's letterboxd rating

>>213335177
sorry about your elementary-level vocabulary brah. I'd probably be angry and scared all the time, too.

>>213335364
They didn't. But claiming that the life of one cow is more valuable than the life of every slavic person ever born is a claim so ridiculous that it negates the need for explanation.

>>213335389
You didn't answer my question sweaty. Try again.

>>213332737 (OP)
the film was pure kino
wouldn't be made today

>>213335423
By the reddit vernacular I'll assume you're a vegetarian and not in fact a hypocrite, touche.

>>213335420
>slavic person
nice oxymoron. animals are heavenly creatures. slavs are soulless automatons.

>>213335438
>sweaty
>reddit vernacular
newest of faggots

>>213335450
>proceeds to stuff himself with processed meat slop that was treated more poorly than the turtle in cannibal hall of cost

>>213335438
Still not answering the question. I guess you can't. GG

>>213335484
Still not answering the question. I guess you can't. GG

>>213335496
I asked first. Playground rules on the 4chans dolt.

>>213335450
Shut up nigger

>>213335507
I'll answer second.
t. make the rules

>>213335147
i dont mind holocaust movies at all this movie is really bad tho bud just poorly made schmaltzy schlock, there's a reason it's a meme it's because it sucks, the shot of that actor that's always posted captures exactly why and how bad the movie is

>>213335514
You'll answer this second or i call the mods

>>213335544
>he thinks memes equal bad
Newfag

>>213335560
>mods please remove this post that reminds me of the uncomfortable truth that I'm a spineless hypocrite

>>213335389
>equating eating meat, which is necessary for a healthy life, with the torturing of animals for a movie
retardation or bait, call it

>>213333010
Yeah but trips so you lose

>>213335582
Still not answering my question sweaty

>>213335599
>he thinks animals are treated in a humane way in slaughterhouses
You haven't done much research, have you hypocrite?

>>213335562
no ive seen the movie, it's fucking awful

>>213335622
>a bolt to the back of the head or quick gassing is the same as torture
retardation or bait, call it

>>213335620
Still not beating the hypocrisy allegations. In fact, you have a moral obligation to donate to an animal charity the more you speak.

>>213335642
Yeah that's pretty quick if we ignore the awful treatment beforehand.

>>213335667
>Thinks animals live in slaughterhouses
ngmi

>>213335693
Look up Butterball's House of Horrors

>>213335647
Still not answering how his precious tankie propaganda film needed to torture animals to be artistically valid. BTW don't forget Florya supports Putin.

>>213335726
Do you eat meat?

>>213335708
I don't watch South Park

>>213335744
>I actually don't give a shit about animal suffering, I was bluffing for the sake of arguing
Yeah I can tell, retard. You're a child.

>>213335732
Get new material sweaty
>>213335760
I do care, Butterball's House of Horrors just sounds like a made up South Park movie. How I am supposed to know it's some American food brand and not Butters the character?

>>213335833
Lol. What a fucking retard

>>213332737 (OP)
le bad

>>213335862
>not being up to date on American consumerism makes you a retard
Americans are totally out of touch with reality

>>213335899
>makes a song and dance about how much he supposedly cares about animals
>calls a documentary on animal cruelty "consumerism"
I knew you were a hypocrite but your stupidity is an impressive feature in its own right.

ITT
leftists and ziggers defending vatnig propaganda

If you like Puccia so much you can move there

>>213335923
>Not realizing I'm clearly talking about the title being an American brand and not recognizing it
Retard confirmed

>>213335935
>muh left and right paradigm

>>213335954
That's right, embrace the 3rd position.

>>213335945
I've indeed confirmed you to be a retard and a hypocrite. I'd say you started off promisingly but I'd be lying.

>>213332737 (OP)
War is le good akshually. I don't know why but it just is

>>213333013
>>213333055
is there a spoof movie called "cum and see"? I'd probably watch that

>>213333207
Oy vey you are not supposed to talk about that

>>213335995
You literally cannot defend the choices of your propaganda film and resort to personal attacks. If you cannot see why I don't answer your bullshit leading question and aren't just baiting you are the biggest retard.

>>213336062
Why did you get so defensive over the meat question though? Innit kinda weird?
Oh and I don't own the film in any capacity sweaty.

>>213336093
So you don't understand why I wouldn't answer a leading question. lol, lmao even

>>213336093
because he's a pathological liar caught in the act

>>213336135
I'm sorry for all the personal attacks. I now see that whether you eat meat or not, the film maker still chose to needless torture animal for his propaganda film and that was a poor choice that devalues the film. I'll do better next time. This is my last post ITT.

>>213336135
I don't actually. What's the big whoop? The fact that you'd be outed as a hypocrite?

>>213332737 (OP)
>slav
Why are they incapable of building successful nations? It's not like their land is worse.

>>213336165
>so mindbroken he has to reply to himself now
Instead of being mad at me, be mad at yourself that you're likely not even 5% of what you supposedly preach.

>>213332737 (OP)
>It’s just Nazis are l’evil
I mean they objectively were. Sent millions of white europeans at war with each other while siding with all manner of chink and shitskin.

>>213336238
Just to add, I haven't seen it and I probably won't cause /tv/ only shills trash anyway

>>213336238
>white europeans
Why are East Euros are shitting up Paris side by side with Somalis and Gypsies?

ITT tankies coping over their film not being universally lauded and seething about some anon refusing to admit that he eats meat. Top kek
>>213336238
TRVKE. Hitler released Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild instead of executing him. How anyone can defend Hitler not being controlled opposition is beyond me.

>>213336293
If you think they only waged war with East Euros you need to study history. But yes, that was a betrayal too.

>>213336312
I just find it funny how that guy pretends to be a good person and not a hypocrite. He can eat meat, that in itself is fine.

>>213336165
I accept your apology anon. Thank you for seeing the light. To other anons impersonating him, your bait is weak. Calling out shitty propaganda isn't preaching

>>213336293
the word you're looking for is muslims

>>213336390
They all work together to shit up Western Europe anyway.

>>213336414
the word you're looking for is trannies

>>213333567
stick to capeshit
and to all the retards resorting to the "propaganda" argument, so what if it is? How does it negate the value of the movie? Propaganda movies can be great watches too

>>213336378
>schizo so assblasted he continues talking to himself
So much for the adult conversation, Mr. Man. Maybe come prepared next time.

>>213336414
Europe is allergic to unity anyway, even within their own countries.

>>213336441
>>213336189
>>213336167
>>213336372
okay okay sorry i meat. no what? is cope and seeth any bettre? no . what was point of all question? i hypocrite. and? cope and seethe still shit film hurt animal.

>>213336495
Thanks for admitting you're hypocrite, that's all I wanted to see really. Your capitulation.

>>213336514
so no piont and cant defend proopoganda movi. tpcial /tv poster

>>213336293
What would a traditionally oriented Eastern European be doing in France, realistically? Partake in the Olympics that were a big middle finger to such values or swim across the shit-strained Seine?

>>213336538
There's a big point to be made, fren. You're not a good person, so your critique of other acts that can be perceived as evil holds no weight.

>>213336584
critik stand on own n u cant adress. personl atacks dont affect argues. lol! 100 posts and u hav no argumnt

>>213336608
At least you've stooped to a lexical level that better reflects your real capacity. 'Grats on not having to rely on Chat GPT to write your sentences anymore, first honest act you've done ITT.

>>213336640
stil onyl person atack. wrds dont need b good 2 mak pont. u hippocrit who cant difend proopaganda film hurt animal. u atak me insted. i animal. u hurt me. u hurt 2 animal. very bad.

>>213336685
> i animal
Truer words have seldom been spoken. A gerbil though, before you start getting any majestic ideas.

>>213336640
The film's central message is a condemnation of senseless violence and cruelty - specifically the Nazi brutalization of innocent civilians during WWII. Yet the filmmakers themselves engaged in senseless violence and cruelty by killing animals for their artistic vision. This creates a profound moral contradiction that goes to the heart of what the film claims to represent.
Loss of moral authority: How can a film serve as a powerful indictment of violence when it was created through violence? The filmmakers demonstrated the same callous disregard for innocent life that they're supposedly condemning. This hypocrisy severely weakens the film's anti-war message.
Ethical inconsistency: The film asks us to be horrified by the suffering of human victims while treating animal victims as expendable props. This selective empathy reveals a troubling moral blindness that calls into question the depth of the filmmakers' ethical understanding.
Exploitation masked as art: Regardless of artistic intent, killing animals for entertainment purposes is exploitation. The film's serious subject matter and artistic acclaim don't change this fundamental fact - they may actually make it worse by providing cover for inexcusable behavior.
The widespread critical praise for "Come and See" without adequate acknowledgment of these ethical violations suggests that the film world has been willing to overlook serious moral failings when they serve perceived artistic greatness. But true artistic greatness shouldn't require actual cruelty in its creation.
The animal killings don't just raise questions about the production - they fundamentally compromise what the film is trying to say about human dignity and the value of innocent life.

>>213336762
You were doing better when you typed your own messages, sausage fingers. I ain't reading allat.
Enjoy your burgers, hypocrite.

>>213336757
stil person insult. see previus post. u just meanie who atak, no defins of movie bc u have none.

>>213333536
the animals would've been killed anyway, niggas gotta eat
also if you pick them over people you're mentally cucked and will die childless

>>213336801
Just because you are small and fragile doesn't make you worthless anon, remember that.

>>213336816
animls were not eatn in makin movie, animal left 2 rot for movie shoot.
>>213336848
im big but thank

>>213336312
Cope and seethe threads are universally shit because leftoids never defend their movie and just pilpul there way through any serious critical replies. That said, it's a 2/5 movie, I just can't take Floyra seriously; the overacting just makes me laugh.

>>213336877
Yeah a big hypocrite lmao! I'll close my eyes to the fact that you consume meat, and generally sound like the type of person who would torture animals as a kid, but you need to prepare better arguments the next time this flick is discussed. Funny thing is, I'm not even a big fan, there's better WW2 kinos out there.

>>213336934
No, they're entertaining as fuck.
>have weak argument
>get outed as a hypocrite
>revert to 5 y/o mentality and act like a clown to save face

>>213336935
funny bc u hav 0 argues. stil only personal attak. eat meat not as bad as hurt animal for movie. i need stay big and fit. movie jus shot animal n leaf rot.

>>213336975
First off, we established you're a gerbil, there's only so much meat you have to eat, small fry. Second of all, you're using a bad faith argument to discredit an entire movie because you have no other critique for it.

>>213336973
agreed
only starship trooper threads are funnier

>>213336973
You have no argument though? The meat eater anon is right that they killed animals purely for shock value same as Cannibal Holocaust. All you can do is call him a hypocrite, that's hardly entertaining. And the retardspeak posts are clearly you samefagging yourself.

>>213336997
>we
no only means say gerbl. i big

>>213337017
"The meat eater anon" is you, and your argument folded in half as soon as you started being defensive over the simple fact of being a meat eater. And the only person pathetic enough to samefag with the silly vernacular is also you.
The reason for those posts is because anon got embarrassed and is now acting like a clown to save face. He (you) was thoroughly dismantled.

>>213337038
>i big
That's exactly what a small thing would say

>>213337046
And there is the pilpul again. You cannot address the anon's actual argument and just cope and seethe about samefagging. Zero good faith engagement

>>213337088
>Zero good faith engagement
Coming from the fag acting like a clown? Lmao

>>213337067
>N-no you!
I'm not that anon, not that'd you believe me. Come and see me piss on the Tanakh and Talmud

>>213332737 (OP)
I do not like this movie because it's just an edgier and more poorly made version of Ivan's Childhood.
For me, the ultimate WWII movie from the civilian POV and ultimate civ war movie will always be Grave of the Fireflies (coincidentally also made by a commie)

>>213337180
Ok, "totally not that anon". Just be reminded of the hypocrisy you displayed today each time you stuff "big boy" (aka fat) gullet with processed meat. You're not the person who ought to be deciding what's moral and what's in any capacity. Plus, you type like you smell. I can smell it. So instead of spending so much time on 4chan, take a shower.

socialism always fails, whether it's communism or national socialism
it's just a poorly thought out system

>>213332737 (OP)
he looks like he is struggling to take a shit for the entire movie

>>213337208
Unpopular opinion, but there should be more movies with the message that war is bad. Most actually glorify it.

>>213332737 (OP)
>seeslop
grow up
>>213337208
>weebslop
grow up

>>213337304
Anti war kinos
Gallipoli
The Eagle and the Hawk
Many Wars Ago

>>213337301
This
>>213337321
Also this
>>213337268
No, Gaddafi was on the verge of making socialist Libya into a utopia before the central bankers killed him.

>>213337304
>there should be more movies with the message that war is bad
I think it's mostly a Hollywood/U.S problem due to how much influence the military and MIC has over production here. There was a minute basically from the end of the Vietnam War up to around the Gulf War where there was a lot more artistic freedom regarding depicting war in the U.S where you had a ton of fantastic anti-war films. After that however you had a reversion back to jingoistic Boomer crap like Saving Private Ryan and Black Cock Down which has been the meta ever since for American war movies to the point that it's even infected the war filmmaking of other countries, especially Britain and Russia.
Picrel gave me hope that we're finally moving on from that shit though, because it was probably the first American war film since Letters From Iwo Jima to really break that mold and give us something fresh and scary.

>>213337430
Warfare was pro war though. That credit roll removes all doubt about it.

>>213337485
>Warfare was pro war though
If it were they wouldn't have shown the U.S using Iraqi collaborationists as literal cannon fodder nor would they have paid tribute to the civilians the U.S deliberately put in the crossfire. Even most Vietnam movies forget these two elements given the ARVN is always mysteriously absent.
It's more anti-war in an old fashioned Bridge Over The River Kwai way than Apocalypse Now or FMJ way.

>>213337529
>shown the U.S using Iraqi collaborationists as literal cannon fodder
That's not inherently anti war to show, it just shows 3rdies as subhumans in the eyes of the US soldiers.
>paid tribute to the civilians the U.S deliberately put in the crossfire
Apologizing for specific military action isn't anti war, it's saying we messed up this battle/skirmish.

You can't tell me ending the film like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDteTm4Dv0Y is not pro war. Any anti war sentiment in the rest of the movie is obliterated by that montage.

I.e., Gallipoli is a great anti war film because it shows how idealistic young men are captured by propaganda to fight wars that do not affect them in away way, only to die as cheap cannon fodder. Warfare's message is, at best, okay maybe this battle was a mistake.

213337240
You're smelling yourself faggot

>>213333134
Akchually Germans had Turkish blood and Russians had Mongolian blood.

>>213337825
>Apologizing for specific military action isn't anti war
>That's not inherently anti war to show
Yes it is, because it shows how little the U.S cares about the people it supposedly liberated and was fighting the war in the name of. The Iraq War in particular was sold to the public and jusitifed internationally through the idea of "humanitarian intervention", or the myth that we were fighting the war because Saddam Hussein was a shitty dictator that treated his people poorly; and the U.S plunging the country into disorder, chaos, and war while then building up a similarly authoritarian regime that treats all Iraqis as either cannon fodder or terrorists dispels that myth.
>we messed up this battle/skirmish.
The battle/skirmish is supposed to be a representation of the futility and redundancy of the Iraq War itself. That's ultimately what the ending hammers home when the fighting stops, the Americans leave, and then the insurgents simply fill in the streets and continue on with their daily lives like nothing happened.
That scene in particular reminded me of earlier this year when the ceasefire in Gaza was still ongoing, and you saw tens of thousands of previously invisible Hamas fighters emerge from the rubble as the IDF left, only to go back into their crouch the second they came back as Israel chose violence again.
I will agree the ending montage was fucking cringe and gay, I still have no idea why it was left in the film because it's corny as hell.

>>213333567
Its not an Evil Nazi movie, you fucking retards. Its a movie about a retard who thinks he's signing up to be a great hero and patriot and finds out war is meat grinder that makes no sense and serves no purpose. I can't believe such a simple movie can filter so many "cinephiles".

>>213338112
>I can't believe such a simple movie can filter so many "cinephiles".
Anything involving Nazis being antagonists inevitably gets this type of reaction online these days. Sometimes it's justified, but Come and See definitely isn't a time where it is.
I just don't think it's very good for other reasons, especially because it's derivative of better Soviet war films.

>>213338074
> it shows how little the U.S cares about the people it supposedly liberated and was fighting the war in the name of
That is not antiwar, that is anti this war. It implies the war was justified if the propaganda was true.
>The battle/skirmish is supposed to be a representation of the futility and redundancy of the Iraq War itself
Point taken, but it still only implies the Iraq war was wrong, not war as a concept. See my above point.
For a film to be antiwar it must be against all war. Otherwise it's merely a political tool to promote 'just' wars. For Warfare to be antiwar, it could have simply followed one of the soldiers who died in the skirmish from his childhood, to enlistment, to pointlessly dying in a desert for globalists oligarchs. Then end with a montage of propagandized young men dying for old men in wars throughout history. Or, pick a battle where soldiers desert or rebel against the chain of command and refuse to fight. Or, show an Iraqi family living life only to get obliterated by a drone strike then cut to American oligarchs discussing future prices. The last might come off as more anti-America but with time it would be more antiwar. I'm sure a big time hollywood writer could come up with more than this.

>>213333442
Yeah I bet that random guy no one has ever heard of is on the Epstein list. They should release it.

>>213338540
There is no Epstein list sweaty

>>213338387
>It implies the war was justified if the propaganda was true.
Fair, but I think the film does a good job of implying that "humanitarian intervention" is really just downstream from the concept of the "civlizing mission", which is just blatant imperialism.
Even if the propaganda were true, the film still makes the argument that said intervention is wrong.
>I'm sure a big time hollywood writer could come up with more than this.
Plenty do, their films just never get produced because of the MIC's influence on the film industry while people that used to make films like that such as De Palma or Stone are either too old or have been blackballed from the industry themselves for being too spicy.

>>213335954
>left and right don't exist, support Puccia btw

This is not even a top 10 war film, probably. Definitely not top 5. It's really quite sad that some people suck this off as the best war film of all time.

>>213339620
name 5 then

>>213335935
>If you like Puccia so much you can move there
You can say the same thing but to third worlders lmao
>If you like [Western European country] so much why don't you move there?
But that makes rightoids mad for some reason?

>>213337208
Grave of the fireflies sucks. Extremely kitschy and overly sentimental garbage. Anime is NOT art

You guys never talk about the technical aspects of this film or any film for that matter. It's always looking at it from a political perspective which is the most lazy and boring way of approaching film. Imagine if this thread was about Eisenstein and Pudovkin, yeah it's propaganda but you can't deny the artistic filmmaking and incredible montage.

>>213332737 (OP)
It insists upon itself

>>213332737 (OP)
The movie was a goldmine for reaction face bros.

>>213340357
don't bother it's midwits central here

>>213336181
slavs are the biggest white nation, retard

WAR IS UHHHHH..... UMMMMMM.....
*violently turns toward camera*
>LE BAD!
*soldiers form a flash mob and dance in a choreographed number behind him*
>HIT IT!
>soldiers all jump and turn around
*signs on their backs that come together to collectively spell "PEACE GOOD!"*
*kid runs through the crowd, gets picked up by the soldiers and held up like a cheerleader*
>AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!
*winks at the camera with a winking sound effect*

>>213332737 (OP)
>very noisy

are you 80 years old?

>This summer...

>Everyone's favorite war...

>Is returning to the big screen..

>Cuts to a Jewish man hiding under his floor boards voiced by Adam Sandler: "Well this sucks!"

>Ke$ha starts playing WAKE UP IN THE MORNING FEELING LIKE P DIDDY

>Aleksei Kravchenko wakes for the morning as he is carried away by nazis, again. He nonchalantly yawns and stretches "well, it beats walking"

>Nazi officer, voiced by Jack Black "COME ON YOU MAGGOTS! LETS SHOW THEM HOW BAD LE WAR REALLY IS!"

>DONT STOP MAKE IT POP DJ BLOW MY SPEAKERS UP TONIGHT IMA FIGHT TILL WE SEE THE SUNLIGHT!

*montage of war being le bad*
*shots of le damaged war faces*
*shots of nazis bashing babies over rocks*

>Aleksei Kravchsbko is on his knees looking at a nazi officer as a building is lit ablaze behind them
>"So who talks first you? You talk first? Or I talk first"?"
*back hands him*
>Random Nazi in the background played by Gilbert Gottfried
>"YIKES, that's gotta hurt!!"

>THIS SUMMER

>WAR IS GONNA BE

*Jewish man doing a head spin*

>"LIIIIIITTTTT"

*Evil nazi scientist in a science lab laughing in a comically evil way as electricity flies thru the air*

*Nazi officer skiing down a hill and hitting a tree in slapstick fashion*

>ITS GONNA BE VERY -

>Strong female lead kicks Hitler in the balls
>Hitler: "RIGHT IN THE FUHRER" *crosses his legs and falls over*

>VERY -

*Nazi guard wearing a pink dress twerking alone in a mirror, another nazi walks in *music cuts out*

*awkward silence*

>"UHHHHHHH hi Klaus"

>"UHHHHHHHHH hey Hans"

>*Slowy closes door*

*proceeds to keep twerking*

>Shot of everyone dancing to the dance number at the end of the movie

>VERY.. LE BAD... AGAIN!

>COME AND SEE PART 2: COMING AND SEEING

>RATED PG-13

213337918
I can still smell you btw

>>213340357
Whoooooaaaa it’s another close up of his face, here let him shoot this picture hitler while we play nazi film in reverse. While completely ignoring the atrocities the soviets caused that led to the rise of hitler
Very technical

Even in war, women are sluts

>>213342284
>While completely ignoring the atrocities the soviets caused that led to the rise of hitler
I interpreted it a completely different way.
More that he was diving into the part of man that gave us hitler in the first place. The sight of baby hitler was one of a painful realization. If it's not baby hitler's fault whose is it? Something like that but not exactly. I've not tried to put the feeling it gave me into words before.

In fact for its time this film was rebellious with it's depiction of the soviets. The creators had to fight to get it made I believe.

>>213342433
She was the only really interesting part of the movie imo

>>213341375
this format will get old one day
but not yet

>>213332737 (OP)
I just marathoned:
>Der Untergang (2004)
>Come and See (1985)
>Das Boot (1981)
>Stalingrad (1993)
>Im Westen nichts Neues (2022)
What's next? I have one more day left. Give me a good recommendation.

>>213342742
the grey zone (2001) is very underrated imo

>>213333567
Dumb amerifat spotted.

>>213341375
fund it

>>213342742
>I have one more day left
a-and then?

>>213332737 (OP)
Holodomor movies when exactly? Ten million Christian Ukrainians starved to death by god's chosen.

>>213342993
such a movie would be banned

>>213333207
Hmm should we make a movie about the most the biggest and most epic theatre of war of all time, set in the country that was most dramatically effected by it, where all the most interesting and horrific possible things happened, or should we make one about a famine. Which sounds more interesting.

>>213342433
>Even in war
Often ESPECIALLY in war

>>213342993
Mr. Jones is a good one
>>213342742
>What's next?
Cross of Iron is a good one