Thread 213339877

did jane really deserve her fate?

to me it always looked like walt killed her in a jealous boomer rage

jesse and jane were relationship goals power couple fr

She killed herself.

>>213339877 (OP)
Dumb bitch choked on her own vomit

when jesse got his money and jane started talking like it was her money that bitch had to die.

>>213339877 (OP)
didnt suck VG's cock

walt didnt kill her

She would’ve taken his money and left him in a gutter

Never trust a junkie.

My main concern with Jans is that she might kidnap me and dress me up in her panties and force me to suck on big thick cocks her until until they covered my slutty little face with cum and she licked me clean and then spat the cum into my mouth and she called me faggot I would hate that.

>>213339877 (OP)
burn the coal pay the toll

>>213339877 (OP)
She gave up after being lectured by her dad and forced to go back to rehab. Walt didn't kill her, he may have hated her but he only avoided touching her to not get ensnared into a murder investigation. Doubt he'd broke down in tears after she died otherwise

>>213339877 (OP)
>The success rate of crystal meth users to continue sobriety after three years without any rehabilitation or treatment is ONLY 5%. When all relapse incidents are grouped together, it is estimated that 92% of crystal meth users will relapse at least once in their recovery efforts.
The only correct thing Walt did was watch this stupid cunt choke. She had her talons in Jesse and Walt saved him.

>>213339877 (OP)
All smokers need to be killed in public. They are not human

>>213339877 (OP)
he left her in the position he found her. Mechanically it is murder due to the order of operation, save, then return to dying. However she was dying already, and would have done so without his aid, so it isn’t quite the same as murder, or him killing her.

>>213340139
>>213339882
>>213339900
>>213339926
retard alert. he turned her over onto her back.

>>213340076
I don't understand what the appeal is of meth. Everyone who does it is a crazy scumbag bum and lives a shitty lifestyle, yet so many people decide to do that drug
At least with something like alcohol, you can get hooked on it easy because it's widely available and socially acceptable and I think some people are just genetically predisposed to alcoholism. Even heroin is more understandable than meth, because heroin addicts get started usually by doing pain pills and they can't get pain pills so they switch to heroin

>>213339877 (OP)
She was a whoore.

>>213339882
Walt shook Jesse which caused Jane to fall on her back and die

>>213340139
He did not actually. She was sleeping on her side, because of the risk of vomiting.
Walt moved her while looking for the cash, but didn't intervene to help her while she was choking
She died by his actions, but it wasn't murder nor manslaughter, as he did not move her with intent to kill

>>213340255
Im pretty sure killing someone without intent to kill is called... wait for it.. MANSLAUGHTER!!!!

>>213340274
The court finds him guilty of an oopsie. Manslaughter is too harsh.

>>213340227
Meth addicts are people who chase drug induced highs and have nothing to lose because their life is unfixable to their eyes and dont care if they die or not. Im not sure, but meth is cheaper than heroin, so its easier access

>>213340227
Well we do give literal speed, amphetamines, to children, and then surprised pikachu face when people do meth-amphetamine.

>>213340227
>hey bro try this
>no thanks
>don't be a pussy you'll love it
>ok
>damn that feels good

>>213339877 (OP)
>walt killed her in a jealous boomer rage
He didnt even touch her, how could he have killed her?

>>213340218
Watch the scene again with your phone down you fucking monkey, she rolls over by herself

Walt was right, even if he didn’t contribute to her death (he moved Jesse which rolled her on to her back) they would’ve been dead or in jail in weeks. But you don’t deserve to die just because you’re a junkie.

>>213340466
She was leading him down that path so that she could take advantage of Jesse's money.. remember she didnt give a fuck about Jesse's problems with Walt until she learned that he was loaded

>>213340440
Where do retards like you get the confidence to so self-assuredly be wrong while telling others you are right with true/false yes/no questions that you can just google the correct answer to in 5 seconds? It’s such a common occurrence.

Go on YouTube right now, type Jane’s death, check the video. explain to us how Walt shaking Jesse as the camera focused on Jane getting pushed by the shaking onto her back is “Walt did nothing Jane rolled over on her own”

>>213340552
Walt still didnt touch her nigger. If she rolled over by Jesse's being lightly shook on the other side of the bed then she was going to OD anyway

>>213340613
You’re intellectually dishonest or retarded

>>213340701
Go try and shake one side of a bed like Walt did and see if you can roll someone over like that. Jane was as good as dead anyway, you just cant see it because you are distracted by muh goth girl (Wahoo!)

>>213340613
>guy A pushes Guy B who bumps Guy C off a cliff
>it’s guy Cs fault for standing close to the cliff

>>213339877 (OP)
>be distinctly aware that you can choke on your own vomit if you dose heroin to unconsciousness with no supervision
>dose heroin to unconsciousness with no supervision anyways
>choke on vomit
Deserve got nothing to do with it. She took a risk and paid the price. All there is to it.

>>213340274
In the case of manslaughter, one does really try to knowlingly kill someone.
What sets it apart from murder is that you don't start your day with thinking "I will kill this person." but when the situation arises, you definitely are going for a killing blow

>>213339939
She's a woman she would have done it even if she wasn't a junkie. To trust a female junkie is just lmao tier.

>>213340227
Try meth or heroin once and you’ll get it.

>>213340733
More like guy C was going to slip anyway and guy B got knocked into him during the process.

>>213339877 (OP)
all druggies deserve an embarrassing and early death, so yes. this applies to pot smokers too.

>>213340791
You are now aware that heroin is still used clinically in UK without every patient turning into a junkie. It's just an opioid like any other, dose it right and it's a nothingburger.

>>213340729
They’re spooning you lying asshole, why the fuck do you think Gilligan wrote and filmed the scene like that, that while Walt shakes Jesse she rolls over if not to imply that, look, Walt shook the bed now she’s on her back like she said was a bad thing earlier. If it was meant to be her just rolling over then they would’ve filmed her rolling over when Walt wasn’t touching either of them or the bed. You fucking moron. Not to mention that the original scene was her puking on her side and Walt pushing her over, or the original idea that he injects her with even more heroin while unconscious

Not only are you a blind idiot, you’re story/cinematically illiterate too

>>213340817
Based if you don't drink alcohol and coffee. Cringe if you do.

>>213340843
>nooo you can’t have le heckin alcohol it’s poison!! I only drink water and tea

>>213339877 (OP)
She was junkie using him for his money, and would've disposed of him when he was of no further use. Also she's a coalburner. So yes.

>>213340824
>heroin still used clinically in the UK

Suddenly I understand britbongs better.

>>213340013
>he only avoided touching her to not get ensnared into a murder investigation
Nah thats bs. He wanted her to die. He just didnt want her to die enough for him to do it without being gifted a perfect opportunity. Jane was getting between him and Jesse and fucking blackmailing him
It's still far more Janes fault than Walts.

>>213340824
If you mean morphine sure. Fucking heroin??

>>213340832
>the original idea is that Walt rolled her onto her side while she was puking! Thats why hes at fault
Yeah well they didnt film it that way for a reason now did they bud. If they wanted you to think it was walts fault they would have made it obvious, they filmed it in a way to show ambiguity and to bait simps like you into sperging about Jane's "murder"

>>213340914
Heroin is just morphine with two acetyl groups attached to make it lipid solubale. I hate chemistrylets so much…

>>213340949
No retard they changed it to be more accidental as it would go over with audiences a lot better than Walt straight up murdering her instead of accidentally causing her to roll over and then in a moment of “holy shit this solves my problems” weakness watches her die.

And again you just confidentially state your retarded incorrect opinion as fact when the actual truth is available.

>>213340985
I surrender.

The moment her and Jesse blew all of their cash like worthless junkies, they would've started blackmailing Walt for more. She had it coming.

>>213340733
You mildly bump a man in the grocery store. He explodes into blood. You are charged with murder.

>>213340867
>drugs bad
>except my drug of choice of course
Nothing more cringe than a hypocrite.

>>213340914
>Fucking heroin??
Yes.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/treatment/drugs/diamorphine

>>213339877 (OP)
He should have raped her first.

>>213340914
imagine the high you'd get from licking her toes

>>213339877 (OP)
Did walt kill her? No.
Would she still be alive if he never showed up? Probably.

>>213339877 (OP)
Imagine her as a man and try to think she's nothing but a junkie retard.

>>213339877 (OP)
This bitch hit the wall hard.

>>213339877 (OP)
Mogged by Amanda Fix

>>213339877 (OP)
attaching boomer to things as an adverb doesn't make you more cool or right

>>213340733
It's pig #3's fault, simple as.

>Walt meets her dad at a random bar and starts discussing their families
>watches his daughter die a few hours later
Realistic

>>213339877 (OP)
All druggies deserve death

>>213342392
but she's not. she's a hot woman with a vagina i can fugg.

>>213339877 (OP)
I hope you die soon

>>213340867
>I only drink water and tea
this but unironically

>>213340773
Manslaughter is a form of homicide, the unlawful killing of a human being, but unlike murder, it is committed without malice aforethought or premeditation. It's generally considered less serious than murder because it lacks the element of intentionality or planning that characterizes murder.

>>213342435
Dude its 2025 nobody knows what an adverb is

>>213341445
you mean after?!

>>213339877 (OP)
Yes.

>>213339877 (OP)
all junkies deserve overdose

>>213344196
>bro being retarded is all the rage these days broooooo
shut the fuck up

>>213339877 (OP)
>did jane really deserve her fate?
she threatened to report a drug dealer to the police. Said drug dealer killed her.
> to me it always looked like walt killed her in a jealous boomer rage
yeah I agree; but it was also pragmatic. He wouldnt have done it without both the rage & the pragmatism
> jesse and jane were relationship goals power couple fr
they were poison for eachother. Fire needs water.
>>213340777
kek

>>213339877 (OP)
>did jane really deserve her fate?
She deserved it twofold. First when she tried them, and second when she relapsed. Hard drugs are death.

>>213339877 (OP)
I mean she basically just got into black tar heroin and overdosed and died. We can talk about if Walt's lack of intervention was murder, but in the morality of doing shit that you're not supposed to because it could kill you, she pretty much took black tar heroin and died from it. Not all that complicated of a story

Guys, Walt didn't kill her like that. Yes I understand he let it happen, and even let it happen because she was threatening his entire operation, but you really can't say he killed her. He didn't save her

>>213340824
what about black tar heroin

>>213339877 (OP)
>deserve
It's crazy that people actually think this is a real thing

>>213339877 (OP)
>goes back to being a degenerate
>knows Jesse is a desperate retard who has little real experience with women
>manipulates him into making Walt give him the cash so they can get high instead of leaving like they initially planned
>the plan to leave was probably just a bunch of horseshit anyway
>even if they left the cash would've been gone in less than a month and they would have been loser junkies in Australia instead of ABQ

>>213349006
I mean, does a person who touches a hot stove deserve to be burned?

>>213344145
From (I know) a Reddit thread in BC (Before Covid):
>Assassination: Political motives, planned
>Murder 1: Planned intent to kill
>Murder 2: In the moment of passion, still intent to kill
>Voluntary manslaughter: Intentional use of lethal force or force that could reasonably result in a lethal outcome, but without the intent to kill, but a death still resulted. Can also be construed from lack of provision of help, as the case discussed here.
>Involuntary manslaughter: same as before but the use of force is unintentional (DUI can be involuntary manslaughter) or the person genuinely didn't know that the outcome could be lethal (unknowable underlying conditions for instance).

she was with sonic when it went down

>>213340274
It depends from state to state, but you generally have something like >>213351350

Of the street-level crimes, the worst is premeditated murder. After that is regular murder, which generally requires an intent to cause death (there's also depraved heart murder for things like throwing an anvil into a crowd). Then you have the two manslaughters.

>>213342413
they were airplanes

>>213339877 (OP)
>being subservient to your gf are couple goals
cuck

>>213339961
Mazal!

>>213340218
Post tits or gtfo alert

>>213340013
>Killing someone
so you don't get caught for murder
>>213340218
Fucking buffoon

>>213340255
It's literally gross negligence resulting in death, at a minimum

walt should have put her in a headlock and ran top speed into a wooden beam

>>213340867
>tea
Get help before you murder your parents for an 8 ball of earl grey you filth

>>213339877 (OP)
just one last thing, what was Jane's fate?

>>213340914
>The rat phenotype
Reparations for the Opium Wars

>>213342435
Boomer truth.

>>213344753
Black tar destroys lives

>>213339877 (OP)
>did jane really deserve her fate?
Yes.
>was going to get Jesse killed
>was threatening to ruin Walt's life if he didn't give her Jesse's money to buy drugs with

>>213350149
Why do you hate women so much incel??

>>213339877 (OP)
Just a dumb-bitch crackwhore, nothing of value was lost.

>>213340274
>mans laughter

>>213348537
I bet that was uttered in NHS comission boards more than once
The absolute state of yookay

>>213340274
Even manslaughter requires some level of mens rea more than simple negligence, which is the most Walt could be accused of here.
t. lawfag

>>213339877 (OP)
all druggies deserve death

>>213339877 (OP)
She was treating it like it was her money by how she was talking and interacting, so Jesse was on borrowed time with her. First obvious sign of that is when she suddenly treats Jesse like a king when he tells her about the cash and is like "Have your head up on this pillow, thats it baby :)" and she just contemplates after he passes out.

>>213340903
This. It was just opportunity that it happened, otherwise he would've made no attempt to do anything to her and would've kept on trying to just talk to Jesse.

>>213339877 (OP)
Mogged by Amanda Fix

>>213355910
Well duh, Breaking Bad was 20 years ago now.

walt didn't make her roll over
she chose to roll over

>>213356050
Inevitable that it would happen, she didn't put a pillow behind her back. Rookie move for such an experienced junkie.

>>213339877 (OP)
this OP is the ferris bueller OP. i see you.

walt getting her killed was the nicest thing he could have done for her, she was a fast track to blowing dudes for crack once that money is gone in a week after theyre robbed

>>213355910
>>213342422
I love Amanda Fix