Babyface edition
Previously on /trek/ >>213330232

>>213348162
they didn't even go to the effort of making them scantily clad, not even for the bit

>>213348185
they kind of did in her case couple flashes of butt

>>213348206
my brother in christ those are shorts, when they could've be a unitard. the helmsman is in baggy coveralls too. at least the gams are decent.

>>213348270
>the helmsman is in baggy coveralls too
good, she's one of the least attractive women on the show (aside from uhura of course)

>>213348338
i have a hunch

star trek sex with shran

yep, we're totally just friends

>>213349072
remember how they wrote out the romulan ninja but just replaced him with worf
remember how worf was now specifically a pacifist, but stabbed all those guys
remember how not even gowron wouldve condoned attacking an unarmed ferengi, but worf cut his head off without even a second of hesitation

>>213349128
I saw this epi a few weeks ago and I was screaming JUST FUCK!!
JUST
FUCK!!!!

>>213349128
Their on-again/off-again "romance" was one of the cringiest aspects of Voyager. I don't even know which one to feel sorrier for. Janeway has such grandma vibes, and Chakotay is an NPC.

>>213349128
is he going to show her his Chakotay?

>>213349336
For real. Idk what was going on behind the scenes, but it was like they were allergic to giving Beltran anything to do or Mulgrew anything other than 1800's holographic dick.

>>213345658
Regarding DS9:
>main cast is 2 black guys, a muslim, a tranny, a jew, a palestinian, and two cuckolds
>storylines about racial segregation, lgbtq+, anti-colonialism, and gender equality
people today would be losing their mind over the best Star Trek show being too woke and yet it was perfectly normal and accepted in the 1990s

>my DS9 seethe thread isn't gaining traction let me try harder

>Me trying to enter this thread

>>213349353

DS9 had the best characters

>>213349353
Shut the fuck up Zoomer.

>>213350072
based producers not letting him be gay and writing dukat's daughter to want to bone him

>my DS9 seethe post isn't gaining any traction let me try harder

>>213349128
Kate Mulgrew is a hypocritical cunt for constantly rejecting Janeway and Chakotay being Husband & Wife. A husband & wife Starship leadership would've been an extremely unique dynamic for Voyager, especially given the show's plot and circumstances. It would've made them the Mulder & Scully of Star Trek and catapulted the ratings above any other Trek show at the time. She's a "feminist" but posed nude in the mid 70s as an audition for Playboy Magazine. Janeway was not the inspiration to young girls she wanted her to be. Xena was. Scully was. Lara Croft was. Katheryn was a genocidal maniac most episodes, and an overbearing mother in the rest. Chakotay was either an ignored voice of reason, or just the stereotypical 90s Indian guy every show had to have for some reason. I chalk that up to fucking Chuck Norris having a goddamn TV show for so long. Unneeded, unnecessary, overused trope no one cared about.

TNG is the best overall series

>>213350265
Season 3 onwards, yes. But D9N is the superior drama.

>>213350299
yeah youre right, ds9 is a slice of life anime up until the very end, which i believe is the episode on H&I tonight.

>>213350112
Crazy poor Ziyal's death makes both Damar & Garak more interesting while her memory fades from the viewer's mind.

>>213349353
>Janeway has such grandma vibes
Nah man. She's a boomer Karen for sure.

>>213350089
GenX, but thanks for playing. Here's your year's supply of Turtle Wax.

THIS IS NOW AN ENTERPRISE THREAD:

THE VULCAN INCENSE HAS BEEN LIT AND WE JUST LEFT STARBASE

THIS IS YOUR DAILY REMINDER TO LUBE UP YOUR BEAGLES, POLARIZE YOUR HULL PLATING, AND HEAT UP YOUR DECON CHAMBERS TO SKIN TEMP (308.65 K)
THE CHEESE HAS BEEN SLIT AND IT'S TIME TO SLAM YOUR PLOMEK BROTH, TAKE A TOKE & MARK OFF YOUR CHECKLIST
TO POP YOUR:

STARFLEET RATIONS
ANDORRIAN ALE (VINTAGE 2125)
CORDRAZINE HYPOSPRAY

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>FAITH OF THE HEART BLASTS THROUGH YOUR HOUSE
>YOU INSTINCTIVELY JUMP INTO YOUR GRAVITY PLATED BASKETBALL COURT AND GYM, FITTED WITH WATER POLO POOL AND A PON FARR BATTLE CAGE
>AFTER YOUR INTENSE WORKOUT YOU CALL OVER ADMIRAL FORREST USING SUBSPACE BEFORE GETTING INTO YOUR HYPERSLEEP EXPANSE STASIS BIOBEDS AND PACKING YOUR MOUTH TO THE BRIM WITH TRIP'S FLORIDA FRESH PECAN PIE FOLLOWED SHORTLY AFTERWARDS BY ALDEBERAN MUD LEECH ENEMAS JUST AS THE TRELLIUM-D KICKS IN AS YOU LISTEN TO ZEPHRAM COCHRANE AND ADMIRAL GARDENER HYPOTHESIZE THAT THE BORG = ALIENS AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT IS HIDDEN ON TAU CETI
DUDE AWW SHUCKS LMAO
DUDE PHASED ION CANNONS LITERALLY ENCRUSTED WITH TRITANIUM AND DUNKED IN OSMIUM ALLOY FIRING OFF OF THE SAUCER SECTION COLONEL GREEN STYLE
>"AMBASSADOR SOVAL, JUST END IT ALL, I THINK YOU ARE A WORTHLESS VULCAN AND I HATE YOU, BUT COME BACK ON SUBSPACECAST SO I CAN BLOW YOU THE FUCK OUT OF THE QUADRANT YET AGAIN AND REDUCE YOU TO GREEN JELLY"
>"TUH POL” BEARER, JUST TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. YOUR MAPS ARE OVER. IT'S TIME FOR THE PHASER OVERLOAD RETIREMENT PLAN"
Johnathan Archer, 2015
>YOU ARE NOW PICTURING CAPTAIN ARCHER NAKED ON TOROTHAS PLAYING GESKANA AND HYPERVENTILATING IN THE DESERT
Brought to you by B&B Productions©
cue the Perfect Strangers theme

Was she a trans allegory?

>>213349466
>>213350137
Not my thread. But there are oldtrek grandpas in here who seethe about how woke nuTrek is, yet claim to be DS9 fans, so I thought you'd all appreciate the chance to seethe in a completely different thread. Or do I misunderstand your motivations?

>>213350590
Do you have multiple personality disorder or something?

>>213350710
If you have to ask, you know the answer. Guy's a run of the mill dunning-kruger retard.

Have we always been like this?

>>213350804
No one hates anything more than it's fans.

>>213350776
It’s just so bizarre. What’s his endgame? Does he think we can’t tell?

>>213350710
You know that just because most posters here are called "Anonymous" that they're not actually the same person... right?

>>213350804
Yes, and the cycle has started anew. Now it's... well, I'm not sure, since I'm not one of the oldtrek grandpas, but I think STD, PIC, and LD are now nuTrek, and TNG, DS9, VOY, and maybe ENT are somehow beyond reproach. The standard is hardly objective, no matter how much they wish it was. As for me, I mostly like TOS, TNG, LD, some of VOY, and movies 2 and 4-9, but I have no desire to gatekeep other fans.

>episode where the alien with the power to heal people's ailments cures Geordi's inceldom instead of his blindness

Finally I'm about to watch TBOBW for the first time bros, I'm so excited. Q Who was my favourite episode so far.

>>213351039
Why are you always pooping your diaper and making us smell it?

Should I watch Terra Prime after these are the voyages? I don't want to end enterprise on a low note with fat riker.

>>213351120

>>213350543
No, and you're retarded for thinking so.

>>213351198
just don't watch TatV and end it with terra prime

>>213350543
I think at the time the show was made, yes. she was supposed to be Sisko's "Old Man" buddy who is now a girl, and that doesn't matter. basically a treat genders the same no matter what situation.

but there is a difference, because she didn't start out as a man, and "CHOOSE" to be a woman (y'know, after realizing she was one deep inside or whatever) so not really

I don't think they ever brought up the fact that Odo identified as a male (like his Scientist dad?) when he is legit genderless, either

Would you pay 400 bucks for this slop?

>>213351391
No

It will come with exclusive minifigs though. Like FunkSlop but smaller.

The ENT-era really does make for the most interesting Trek setting. You still have that "Wild West" feel of space exploration. Remote yet intimate. The rigid structure and safety of the Federation isn't there yet. The friction with vulcans. Getting your ass kicked over and over because of inexperience and being outgunned/teched. Enemies who become allies and friends. Eventually, inevitably, the big war serving as a unifier. Wish they set another thing here in a Nolan, Villeneuve/Sheridan, Moore style rather than Abrams' action comedy.

>>213351198
don't watch the Enterprise finale right away.

wait until years later, and you happen to be re-watching the TNG episode The Wounded. pause that episode and THEN watch the Enterprise episode. it "happens" during that time (ignore tubby Riker somehow?). by then, you might appreciate the Enterprise reminder and flashbacks without the burden of the neck-stomping finale

>>213351391
>legos are slop now
get me off this gay earth NOW

>>213349128
>cucked by monke

>>213351391
>>213351449
Gross, the Mega Bloks one unironically looks better.

>>213351473
I like it but I prefer TOS, which has the same wild west element but with the technological capabilities to go anywhere in the universe. I wish TNG had more of that feel, it feels like all the territory was charted. That's probably why they kept going back to the Borg well, because they stumbled across that old "great unknown" feel with them.

>>213351644
I started watching Trek before voyager came out and watched TNG first, then DS9 then Voyager.
I have only watched a few episodes of TOS, it sucks, it's unwatchable for me, not as bad as STD or PIC but it's pretty close.

>>213350543
its not the same person in new body. ITs new person in new body.

The disingenious 22nd century setting alone makes me dislike Enterprise. We are 100 years before Kirk but this Enterprise is already just a 23rd or 24th century Starfleet ship with slightly different production design. And the missions already work out the same way they did later. When you are 100 years before Kirk, halfway between Cochranes first warpship and the Constitution class you have to should have everything work differently. But instead, everything is made so they can keep the usual Star Trek formula of weekly adventures. Sit in the captain's chair, hail the alien vessel, make pew pew or not, go to a planet, go down, run around for a few minutes, meet aliens that are not what they seem to be, go back to the ship, sit on the console, press the buttons, go to your quarters, go to a different planet.

The 22nd century should be different. Maybe so different that having a TOS-like show doesn't work. You can't have a movie about exploring the Americas with a Spanish galleon set in the 21th century. You can't have a show about an aircraft carrier set in the 17th century even when you make the aircraft carrier out of wood and have the aircraft be DaVinci flying machines.

Oh wow, the phasers are phase pistols? the shields are polarized hulls? The transporter is only used every third episode instead of every episode? The food is cooked instead of replicated? The tractor beam is a grappler with a winch? The Warp is Warp 5 instead of Warp 8? Wow, big deal

>>213351391
>>213351449
Ferengi-level money gouging on starving fans
it's despicable
sickening, even.

Lego could have made a much smaller one, for a lot less. but why? make the fans PAY PAY PAY! why sell it for a mere $200 when you could double that?! if they'll pay $200, surely they'll pay $400!
muh piece count! muh value-for-the-money-based-on-Lego-current-prices!

AND the ONLY way to get the "free" (lol) Shuttlepod with exclusive Ro Laren, is to buy it on release day! while supplies last! so... buy it quickly!

I'm so mad at Lego, but what else can I do? I'll do my part, and NOT buy it. even though I do indeed want it desperately.

>>213351644
>it feels like all the territory was charted
Yes, you're basically stuck with big power bloc games (still has its own appeal) or pulling stupid gimmicks like The Burn.

>>213352022
>why sell it for a mere $200 when you could double that?
That's exactly it. If you sell it for half, you need twice as many buyers. But the number of potential buyers is already pretty much fixed. Making it cost half won't double the sales. But almost everyone who would already pay 200 would surely pay 400.

>>213350804
We are now officially further removed from Star Trek 09 than TNG was from TOS.

>>213348270
>my brother in christ
kys

>>213352245
you're not wrong. I wouldn't have bought a $200 version either, even that's too much for me.

I think maybe if it looked cool enough, I MIGHT have gone up to $150. and even that would count as a "treat" that I'd have to pay-back by eating ramen noodles for a month (or whatever)

economics, dang.
I can't blame them for MAX-Ferengi tactics, but it makes me sad all the same

>>213348086
>You can summon fish by throwing bait in the water. The aliens worshiped them as spirits of good luck. There was no communication going on.
Not officially I guess but they were clearly sentient
>The aliens responded in a targeted, intelligent way, specifically attacking the Equinox and not other ships, indicating awareness of who harmed them.
>They were able to navigate across dimensions to pursue the Equinox, which implies a level of technological or biological sophistication.
>Their attacks became more aggressive as more of their kind were killed, showing retaliatory behavior, not random violence.
We couldn't communicate with the Darmok guys either but they were clearly sentient

>>213352022
Cool it with the anti-Yankee trader remarks.

>>213351934
Fans just don't want to see anything different sadly. It's the same with the Alien franchise having the same species of alien be in every movie. I'd have loved if Enterprise would have been a more paranoid submarine life type series where there was a sense of danger at all times. There should have been accidents happening constantly. TMP is basically everything I wanted ENT to be. Ghoulish transporter accident, stuff going wrong, ill equipped to deal with their encounters in space. People didn't like TMP when it came out but just being ever so slightly harder-sci fi than everything else has made it fascinating now.

>>213352518
Enterprise did have a horrific transporter accident

>>213351934
I agree completely, it was dumb as hell.

My eyes roll into the back of my head anytime someone says "polarize the hull plating."
Just give the ship shields for fuck's sake, they function the same way narratively.

Somebody posted this in the /v/ thread, never seen it before, no idea how old it is or what the origin of it is.

thoughts?

>>213352774
i stopped looking when I saw Riker in God Tier

>>213352774
i stopped looking when I saw Whoopi in God Tier

>>213352774
>>213352803
To me the most offensive are
>Guinan in God tier
Really? The magical negro?
>no special tier for Kirk being more based than literally everyone
gay
>Mal from ENT higher tier than Quark, Kira, or even Shran
>Troi not being in shit tier
>Neelix not being bro-tier
>Trip not being bro-tier
>Kim not being bro-tier
>Lwaxana listed, Garak listed, but people like Martok, Dukat, etc, missing

>>213352921
I feel like a gay 12 year old boy probably made that list

Warp 2, now that's freightering

>>213352774
What a strange ranking, I don't like it

>>213350217
>She's a "feminist" but posed nude in the mid 70s as an audition for Playboy Magazine.
Wait what? How come I've never heard of this?

>>213352774
Autists are perpetually assblasted by based Pulaski because she ribbed their self insert robot a few times. She's kino. Datafags need to get over themselves. She should have stayed on. Beverly sucked.
Spock mogs everyone in his tier as well. He should be Q tier.
>Archer that low
Just pure retardation.

>>213354004
Archer deserves to be in "Shit Tier" for his treatment of Trip during Cogenitor alone.

Never have I been more pissed off at a captain's treatment of a crewman.

>>213352774
Major Kira is god tier

Why the competing threads?

>>213350543
No, because she isn't mentally ill. She actually is a woman.

>>213354902
No idea, probably a nu-trek trannoid trying to be spiteful and divide discussion

>>213349333
>remember how worf was now specifically a pacifist, but stabbed all those guys
Yes that's a joke, fool

"Turnabout Intruder" is a such a shit episode, probably worst of TOS
Why didn't they do a real finale for TOS? did Roddenberry believe season 4 would happen?

>>213355152
>finale
>for a 60s tv show
Zoomer moment

>>213354004
Pulaski was so trying to be a foil to Data, but her "playful dismissal" of his robot-ness came across as just mean. with a slight tweaking, it could have been similar to the Spock/McCoy thing they were going for (but failed at)

the Day-tah vs Dah-ta why do you care how you pronounce your name scene was the closest they got

>>213349433
DS9 just proves you can have all those things and still be popular as long as the stories are well written and the characters are well acted. Just having blacks and trannies for the sake of representation makes for disposable trough content.

What is “sex”?

>>213355152
lol 60s tv had no concept of a finale outside of maybe a british miniseries. they just wrote and produced episodes until they were cancelled, whether they lasted one season or ten and there was no concept of long-form serialized storytelling or finales.

>>213355170
A nice sendoff with "we are off to continue our 5 year mission" was not possible?

>>213355265
Look where it lead us with nu trek and their super villain of the season.

>>213355204
A big part of the Spones/SpocCoy dynamic was the actors having great chemistry. You can tell they had respect for each other even though they had totally different approaches to a problem. Data and Pulaski never had time to build a rapport. They were trying to pair her up with Worf as unconventional besties.

>>213355216
I agree. It's just that the seething oldtrek grandpas in this thread seem to take offense at nuTrek's diversity more than anything else, yet they overlook it in DS9. Almost as if they're stupid, or clueless, or hypocritical, or a combination thereof.

>>213355347
Thats just because of bad writers, not the trends of tv.
Whats really hurting the nutrek is the limited episode count, they will never have a "filler" leisure episode or an interesting bottle episode because of that

>>213355265
How did they end mega popular shows like Lassie and Gunsmoke? They just went out on a generic ride off into the sunset?

>>213355204
Mid to late Data would have had a great relationship with Pulaski. The data that may or may not have busted a cap in that space jew's ass. Early Data had the Gene stink on him, where he was characterised as a retarded baby that somehow didn't know anything despite having been in Starfleet for about 20 years. Pulaski just came across like she was bullying a mental invalid. Though they did become friends over the course of the season. If she debuted in season 3 and sparred with that version of Data it'd feel less weird that she was goofing around with him.

>>213355564
26 years by the time of the Unification episode.

>>213355564
Mike and Rich RLM pointed out it’s one thing for Data to be naive, and another to have him be so clueless he’s never head of Sherlock Holmes or “A walk in the park”. But early Data was very clearly made for children to have a favorite character. I mean, look at this smug bastard. Kids love him.

>>213355204
>the Spock/McCoy thing they were going for
No they were going for the Kirk/any android or robot in TOS thing where he doesn't see them as people and ar best treats them like the amusing retards they are

data needs to be bullied to understand how he is not human. pulaski was the only one helping data reach his goal. everyone else, especially picard, was just patronizing him

>>213355562
>How did they end mega popular shows like Lassie and Gunsmoke? They just went out on a generic ride off into the sunset?
Lassie went to a farm upstate.

>>213355239
ask your mum
and give her my regards

>>213355975
This. I hate the meme RLM peddled during the PIC era that TNG Picard didn't care about Data and finds their relationship in PIC absurd. Picard treats him like a son in TNG and sticks his neck out for him constantly.

>>213356046
RLM was right. Data was not any more special to Picard than anyone else
>Picard treats him like a son
Yeah ok you did not watch TNG

>>213356046
It really depends on the writer. Picard’s appreciation of Data fluctuates between “He is our dear friend and I will fight for his sovereignty with everything I have” and “Oh, the robot’s dead? Worf, you want his job or nah?”

I think people remember the TNG movies when they think about the picard & data relationship.

>>213356140
This is totally consistent with a man who acts based on ethics and duty and not sentimentality, which is Picard

there's a trek-hating schizo in >>213347857 falling for all our bait. come laugh at him

>>213354859
we all know if the show was rated r, odo would be filling every one of kiras holes, making her filled like never before

>>213356462
yeah I would love an X rated version of that massage scene t.b.h.

>>213356070
Cope. You're a complete autist that can't intuit the subtle emotions of a reserved father figure. Picard gifting him his own personal Shakespeare collection is a stronger gesture of friendship than he ever gives to anyone else in the crew. He also takes Data to the holodeck to perform Shakespeare scenes in his spare time. The idea that Picard doesn't have a stronger relationship with Data than he does with someone like Troi is laughable. Go watch the show instead of slurping on some fatass youtuber's nuts.

>>213356172
I think Movie Picard is just an offscreen progression from the seeds that are sewn in All Good Things. Riker and Troi have big leaps in their closeness offscreen too. They have a casual open relationship in TNG and then in between movies get serious.

>>213356530
I do watch the show that's why I'm not defending SPIC like you are lol

STD season 2 is pure dogshit. Holy fuck. Why did they end the Klingon war so soon? Jason Isaacs character literally kept the show alive. Anson Mount SUCKS

>>213356836
I'm in the middle of S2 right now. It's somehow significantly worse than S1. Every episode is just a series of storytelling fails.

>>213356462
There’s a character in The Boys who was just “What if Odo was in a TV-MA show”.

>>213356530
More like the movies have to pander to general movie going audiences so the relationships have to be explicit for the dumb foids in the theater.

>>213356189
Bro Picard is sentimental about his ethics and duty to the point of retardation.

SARU IS LE DYING?
doesn't die. whole culture is actually a lie
What the absolute fuck is this shit?

>>213356513
In The Orville, Zaphit (a slime-based creature) had sex with the ship's doctor. It looked like...well, like this.

>>213357040
that must feel so good for the slime

>>213356904
Discovery is a complete downward spiral of bad writing, doubling down each time as it gets worse and worse. not epic enough? more epic! oh, you thought THAT was epic? MOORREE! and make sure she cries, to let you know how epic it was!

nobody else matters, not anything, as much as Michael Burnham. the one focal epic-ness of everything. ever. throw everything under the bus. the driver is Michael.

it's exhausting in the worst way

>>213357026
see? that was bad writing. his character started out as new archetype (cattle race? seriously? but kinda niche he's always scared and all) and they went all LE EPIC with it and ruined it. his character development pretty much hit a wall after that.

Reg would have been fired if he was acting like that IRL honestly. There seriously wasn’t any safeguard against crew members going onto the holodeck and fucking their fellow crew members???

>>213357138
>You know what Star Trek has always needed? Crying and relationship drama
>>213357214
Reg would have never have made it into the Academy. Even Wunderkind neposhit Wesley Crusher couldn’t make it his first try. Even fucking PICARD failed his first entrance exam.,

I ask again. are there attractive women in these star trek conventions

>>213357324
>Reg would have never have made it into the Academy.
Why not? he's not a bad engineer

>>213357324
Well he got promoted to lieutenant so I assume his mental health issues were manageable before his Enterprise posting.

>>213357324
I don't think the entrance exam works that it's not that you FAIL it's just that you weren't the best out of the group. It's possible to get lucky if you're put with a bunch of losers. Unless I'm misunderstanding how it works.

>>213357424
All the timeline hopping shenanigans and we never saw a version of Barclay who was just a normal dude with a hot wife he got to bang every night. But we got CronenBarclay somehow.

>>213357072
Yaphit had been trying to nail the doctor for some time. Finally, for plot-related reasons, he did.

>>213357516
Indeed. How unfair. At least "Red Dwarf" showed us "Ace Rimmer"!

>>213357515
its like trying out for varsity. freshman never make it unless theyre fantastic or the team is trash

Where can I see all the TNG bloopers from the blu ray extras? Youtube CBS only has a couple of minutes

I love the fake Picard in "Allegiance"
All he wants to do is sing at the bar, fuck crusher, have fun

>>213355718
Does Brent have the smallest lips out all Hollywood A List?

>>213358632
It's like the Captain was finally behaving like Kirk! About damn time.

>>213358632
>Real Picard
Orbit Beverly for 7 years
>Fake Picard
Kick her out mid date once she won't put out

>>213358858
Some Frenchman he turned out to be, amirite?

>>213358858
And after Picard's brother died, why the hell didn't he make a play for his widow?

https://cosmicbook.news/starfleet-academy-season-2-canceled-rumor

>>213359647
inconceivable

>>213359647
Nature is healing

>>213359613
She also died

>>213356836
People couldn't hear Clem Fandango.

>>213357866
I bought the dvd boxset for season 1

>>213359647
>according to youtube podcast
in the trash it goes
Paramount renews their flops before they even air

>>213359905
Then rip it faggot
I am no longer driven by the acquisition of things

>>213359912
Welp,a feller can dream.

>>213359839
No she didn't. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Marie_Picard

>>213360157
Weird. maybe she set the vineyard ablaze in the first place

DS9 finale has some kino dialogue and moments but my god is it anticlimactic as hell

>>213360413
Yeah today is a goo day. At least Kira is single after.

>>213360413
>the war is over in the first 45 minutes
>Sisko's birth was literally arranged by aliens so he could toss a horny Cardassian bastard off a cliff into a pit of fire

>>213360413
>>213360458
I mean I still appreciate how the war is ended with words rather than pewpew, it's very Star Trek

>>213360458
HEY BATTA BATTA BATTA!
SWIIIIIIIING!

>>213359647
hope that turns out to be true

>>213360503
>he doesn't toast bloodwine over the smoking corpses of innocent civillains

weak

Based Vic

>>213360157
Goodbye my old British mother.
I shall always remember you as a young French woman.

>syndication version cuts out the final Bashir & Garak scene "we live in uncertain times"
gay

>>213360531
:^)

This is a great episode but lol making Dukat a manic posessed demon compared to what he was 2 seasons ago is a trip

Good night, cant stay up for voy and ent with work in the morning. At least I can say DS9 was worth watching.

I can see why Sisko just fucking off from his pregnant wife and Jake to hang with the Prophets really pissed people off back when this aired.

Voyage Home is just heckin' fun, I mean lets just admit it.

>>213360413
Somehow, they made both VOY and ENT even more anticlimactic in their finales, kek.

>>213352337
are you fucking stupid?
1966 - 1987
2009 - 2025

Hello cunt?

>>213360413
I kind of wish they would have done the Benny Russel ending just to see how that went over. It couldn't have been worse than Sisko and Dukat falling into Mount Doom.

>>213361400
they should have re-worked it so the final duel was inside the actual wormhole. y'know, the focus of the show?

fire caves was just silly

what are you gays watching

>>213361554
H&I channel
(Heroes & Icons)

they show one episode of each (good) Trek every night except Saturday. starting with original series at 8

tonight was the finale of DS9

>>213361524
>final battle in wormhole
Probably cost the studio too much to produce that.

>>213361554
"Sarek"

>>213359862
STD retroactively ruined Toast of London for me.

>The Doc's holo son has black friends and keeps listening to loud rap music
lol

Subj: Answers
Date: 12/5/97 8:44:39 PM
From: RonDMoore

<<Why don't starfleet officers carry around more than one combadge for when
the first gets taken away?>>

If only they had pockets in those uniforms...

<<Any chance we'll have some starships named after Jacques Cousteau or Carl
Sagan, both of whom passed away not long ago?>>

It's always possible. Starship names are up to the individual writer and we
christen them according to our own preferences.

<<By the way, ever read any of Sagan's books or seen *Contact*?>>

I read "Cosmos", "Dragons of Eden", and "Contact" back when I was in High
School, but nothing of his since. I haven't seen "Contact" the movie yet,
but maybe when it makes it to DTV.

<<Did we ever get an answer to the Capt. Shelby question? [Was the Capt.
Shelby mentioned in "You are Cordially Invited..." the same Shelby from
"Best of Both Worlds"?]>>

Well.... my intent when I wrote the line was that this was indeed the same
Shelby from BOBW. I thought it was a cool reference to throw in for the
fans, but I had completely forgotten that John Ordover & Co. had very
specifically and very politely asked us if we had any intention of ever
using this character again and we (including me) had said, "No way -- do
what you want with her." This very salient fact was pointed out to me after
the show had aired and I had a rather sheepish conversation with Paula Block
over in licensing and with John via e-mail explaining what had happened.
Since I only used Shelby's last name in the episode, you're free to look at
this either way -- it's really her or it's someone else with the same last
name (it's a big fleet, after all).

<<Questions about the Dominion Arc: Is this going to end up as a duel
between two theologies?>>

Possibly -- we haven't worked out the end of the arc yet.

<<where are the other 98 baby changelings?>>

Don't know.

what are the implications to the time/space continuum of these?
>>213334603
>>213334173
>>213349665
>>213349500

Why did Vosh choose a life of profit when she didn't need to? Is living in the federation really THAT soul crushing?

>>213361961
Post more, love old stuff like this

why did Spock so quickly say no to liking Italian food?

>>213354947
>No, because she isn't mentally ill.
Only sometimes

>>213362318
>what are the implications
Millions of NuTrek troons must die.

>>213362759
Subj: Answers
Date: 12/16/97 4:41:25 PM
From: RonDMoore

<<You speak of character arcs on DS9 and the striving for the improvement of
humanity on TNG.
These were established on TOS when TPTB on both shows were in diapers.
Please examine
Spock's evolution between, say, "Where No Man..." to "Requiem for
Methuselah", or McCoy's from "Tribbles" to "The Empath." I think you will
find character evolution far more dramatic than any on DS9.>>

Nothing against TOS, but you said it yourself -- these are examples of
character "evolution", not a character "arc." The character of Spock and
his relationship to Kirk & McCoy evolved over time as the series came into
focus, but this wasn't a deliberate "arc" where they said "Okay, we're going
to take Spock from point A to point B." What DS9 has done is to consciously
change and develop the relationships and our characters. I don't think
there's anything in TOS, TNG, or VOY that comes close to the kind of
overall character arc seen in say, Sisko. We've taken him from a man who
didn't want this job or anything to do with Bajoran religion to a man who
not only thinks of Bajor as his *home* but has embraced his role of Emissary
to the point where he's asking the Prophets for a "miracle" in "Sacrifice."
The arc of Odo is just as strong and complex and there's really no
equivalent to either one in TOS. That's not to slam TOS -- they just
weren't interested in that kind of thing and the show worked just fine
without it.

>TNG blu rays don't have the comfy de-masters like TOS does

This is why DS9 will always mog. It'll stay SD forever.

I just heckin watched Voyage home. And it was a bucket of fun.

Gonna be a good /trek/ today.

>>213361554
End of EVO then CITY the animation.

Just watched TBOBW Part I for the first time. Wow. I can’t believe people had to wait for months to watch Part II.

>>213361961
><<where are the other 98 baby changelings?>>
They died of Section 31 AIDS.

>>213365463
It's not that different from people waiting over a year for the next season of a streaming show. At least back then there was a higher chance of the show returning next season.

>>213359647
Good. I haven't even started review bombing it too. If they think this'll stop me through, nu-uhh Paraslop.

>>213359647
that alien looks ridiculous. i just can't buy that something with lips and nostrils that big could exist in nature. the makeup artists need to rein it in.

Akoocheemoya
I am watching The Fight.
May the bones of my ancestors convince you all that Voyager is a good show. I would watch this again before I'd watch Sub Rosa again.

On season 4 of TNG. Wesley is starting to give burnout former gifted kid vibes. “I-I used to impress everybody, you know..”
Now he’s finally relatable.

>>213361554
porn right now

>>213367474
As much of an asshole as he was during his final appearance on TNG, that's pretty much how I behaved towards family and friends when I was that age and didn't know what to do with my life. The rest of that episode with the Akocheemoyas was trash, though.

>>213351644
>it feels like all the territory was charted
that's pretty much how the eras played out
>TOS is the wild west, the enterprise being like a wagon train through the stars, kirk being a cowboy through the known territories
>TNG is more like after the towns were established, railroads were set up interconnecting them, and the known world was becoming more civilized, hence picard was required to be more of a diplomat than kirk
>DS9 is like deadwood; a town at the edge of the frontier with its own way of doing things
>VOY is this weird amalgam of TOS and TNG, where they're lost in the wilderness, but still have to do everything by the book. Sadly it doesn't manage to do either exceptionally well
>ENT is like the age of sail, with archer drawing the map for later expeditions that people like kirk would follow

>>213352367
you first

>>213367346
>They want you!
>Why?!
>Because you have the gene!
>The crazy gene?!
>Yes. The crazy gene!

>>213352490
>Not officially I guess but they were clearly sentient
I have a feeling you mean sapient when you say sentient, but I don't blame you. Trek and sci-fi in general uses the two interchangeably; a dog is sentient, a mouse is sentient, any living thing that responds to stimuli is technically sentient. Sapience would be something that has human-level intelligence or greater
>The aliens responded in a targeted, intelligent way, specifically attacking the Equinox and not other ships, indicating awareness of who harmed them.
>They were able to navigate across dimensions to pursue the Equinox, which implies a level of technological or biological sophistication.
>Their attacks became more aggressive as more of their kind were killed, showing retaliatory behavior, not random violence.
One could easily argue bees have the same behavior:
>bees will tend to attack you if you throw a rock at their nest, and not anything else in the area interestingly enough
>they can move in three dimensions, following you across obstacles that would otherwise hinder you, like streams or rough terrain
>the more you fuck with the bees, the more of them will sting you

>>213367782
Prove to the court that I am sapient

>>213367782
I don't think bees can recognize you as the perpetrator when you use a ranged weapon or when other people are in the vicinity.

>>213367865
You are monke
>>213368007
You'd be surprised. I think it has to do more with movement than true intelligence though, but that's another discussion
>throw rock at wasp nest with friend (I know I said bees before but work with me)
>he stands still and I run
>I get stung to shit and he's (relatively) fine in comparison

TNG is literally the only trek with a satisfying conclusion

Wesley Crusher owes me pon farr.

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>>213367346
>The Fight
Akoocheemoya trying to hide his gut episode

>>213368264
I know he's subtle but I just can't help but like Chakotay as a character

>>213368696
Lot's of cool guys wear a t-shirt when they box. or swim in a pool

>>213360413
There was meant to be a Season 8 but they got told no halfway through Season 7 being filmed.

>>213368149
I hate to say it, but you're right

>>213369543
lol no there wasn't they knew before season 6 wrapped that season 7 would be the last