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Anonymous No.213362360 >>213363116 >>213363142 >>213364654 >>213364818 >>213365675 >>213365775 >>213366936 >>213366985 >>213367330 >>213369094 >>213369295
What the necessary elements of a good fictional detective?
Anonymous No.213362470 >>213365577
they make mistakes
Anonymous No.213362604 >>213362820 >>213365364 >>213365577 >>213370792
The detective only knows as much as the audience. Most of the clues visually or spoken are only acquired as soon as the scene is played and no sooner. The more the detective pulls out things that are off-screen, including superhuman abilities like the ability taste semen and infer who it came from (like the Benedict Cucumbatch show) makes it worse.
For Columbo for example, a lot of clues are shown as the crime is carried out. The criminal attempts to construct a perfect alibi, but there are always mistakes and the viewer gets a shot to play detective as the first 15 minutes play out.
If too much of it involves technology/forensics, it becomes a cop show instead of a detective show.
Anonymous No.213362820
>>213362604
>implying you can't tell whose semen is whose by its taste
Anonymous No.213363116
>>213362360 (OP)
Only Sherlock Holmes is good, all the rest are idiot copies. Some are weird foreigners larping as intelligent.
Anonymous No.213363142 >>213364698
>>213362360 (OP)
Acting like a fool but thinking like a brilliant.
Anonymous No.213364654
>>213362360 (OP)
no chinamen
Anonymous No.213364698
>>213363142
This
Anonymous No.213364818
>>213362360 (OP)
Autism
Anonymous No.213365364 >>213365383 >>213367195
>>213362604
>The detective only knows as much as the audience
The Watson, not the detective. The detective is always one step ahead. The Watson is the one the audience finds relatable.
Anonymous No.213365383 >>213365436 >>213365450 >>213366862
>>213365364
no, we have to see the detective gather the evidence and have a chance to compete with their conclusions. watson's beneath the audience.
Anonymous No.213365436 >>213365449
>>213365383
You're a faggot with faggot opinions.
Anonymous No.213365449
>>213365436
sherlock is unironically about the worst surviving detective character
Anonymous No.213365450
>>213365383
You're a fucking retard.
Anonymous No.213365577
>>213362604
>>213362470
You forgot
>detective has an unsolved tragedy in his past that inspires him to seek out the truth
Anonymous No.213365675 >>213365687
>>213362360 (OP)
>branagh Poirot
Grim
Anonymous No.213365687
>>213365675
the... second? one in venice was pretty good.
Anonymous No.213365775
>>213362360 (OP)
can't compress it down to a set of rules, otherwise you just end up with useless autism like knox

continental op is the GOAT btw
Anonymous No.213366741
monk is a legend.
Anonymous No.213366862
>>213365383
I agree, yet this is completelly unrelated to your original post. Unless you believe that "Knowing" is equal to "Perceiving"
Anonymous No.213366936 >>213367114
>>213362360 (OP)
asks questions, unshakable work ethic, brooding, perfectionist. maladies abound in those factors so it makes for potentially good writing.
Anonymous No.213366985
>>213362360 (OP)
Be a man
Anonymous No.213367114 >>213369370
>>213366936
This. It's just that easy.
Anonymous No.213367195
>>213365364
thats exactly why last Sherlock sucked balls dude.
Anonymous No.213367314
A beautiful wife and a trusty hound plus lots and lots of alcohol
Anonymous No.213367330
>>213362360 (OP)
You need a good writing formula, buttery smooth voice and goofy assistant
Anonymous No.213367678 >>213369539
There should be at least one fascinating lead character, the killer should usually have some humanity, with an interesting and credible reason for why they snapped, there should be some creative twist to finding the killer in every episode. We should get to see all different types of people, their personal lives, and how they live their lives - rich people, poor people, gangsters, gamblers, posh people, etc., so much of it is about just viewing people's world. Maybe the real psycho killer was the friends we made along the way! That's the blueprint, but it's a lot harder said than done.
Anonymous No.213369094 >>213369454
>>213362360 (OP)
All I know is Columbo is the best by far. I love his baffoon act, but he actually knows everything. From the moment he meets someone, he knows instantly it's them, he just needs to piece it together and prove it. Only Peter Falk could pull it off though, that man had a great, dare I say it, aura.
Anonymous No.213369295
>>213362360 (OP)
behaves like someone with a very high level of a G score
Anonymous No.213369370
>>213367114
Free of debt? Cool it with the anti-semitism.
Anonymous No.213369454 >>213369464
>>213369094
well yeah but hes a big fan of letting people hang themselves.
Anonymous No.213369464
>>213369454
Columbo says trans rights, after all
Anonymous No.213369539
>>213367678
>but it's a lot harder said than done.
You mean easier.
Anonymous No.213370792
>>213362604
This. And this is what faggots who like 'The Usual Suspects' don't get.