Thread 213369745

>mfw a formulaic film full of quips is actually a legit 10/10
What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?

Why can't they replicate this magic anymore?

Would these films have been as successful without the supernatural angle?

>>213369745 (OP)
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit
The practical sets. You just feel the grime.

>>213369745 (OP)
It's a well-produced film, despite being formulaic as all hell. It's rare to see entertaining, pulpy films like this despite it being what audiences want the most. What other films have pirates fighting undead skeletons or ghosts?. None I can think of, aside from Pirates of the Caribbean. It reminds me of when people refer to high fantasy as "generic fantasy", despite there not being many examples of it at all. It's the dark, nihilist slop that's actually generic, because it's all we fucking see nowadays.

>>213369792
Plus good casting. idk that it's formulaic either.

>>213369745 (OP)
The first 3 films were so good, and the deleted scenes are complete kino.

>>213369797
Ahem

Surprised Disney didnt do a Sinbad movie

>>213369745 (OP)
Formulaic? Most scenes are neat little twists on their generic counterparts

>>213369745 (OP)
The action choreography in these movies was god tier

two two

>>213369745 (OP)
Why didn't Verbinski direct another movie? I haven't seen him in years

>>213369898
Two threes.

>>213369745 (OP)
Disney died to woke and infighting, they like many companies kept hiring useless people who do nothing

>>213369888
That shit is, what, 50-60 years old anon?. Yo' daddy wasn't even born back then, nigga.

>>213369920
Son, I saw it in theaters when it released

Yes, I am that old

>>213369920
My dad was born when niggers were not allowed in the theater. And everyone even your nigger ass would love a Sinbad movie if it were done with the same production value as the first Potc.

>>213369945
Nigga WHAT THE FUCK

>>213369745 (OP)
They’re what movies supposed to be, fun and entertaining, only redditors that only consume pseud a24slop hate them

>>213369963
I'm 86

>>213369963
Dude you’re already an old head if you saw Avengers in theater. If not, you’re not too far off anyways

>>213369745 (OP)
>Would these films have been as successful without the supernatural angle?
Wouldn't that be boring? Like Master and Commander

>>213369987
>I'm 86
Holy fuck...

>>213369987
Cool. I bet you have a lot of wisdom from your long life

>>213370000
I was 11 when I saw Avengers in theaters

>>213369945
>>213369987
>all the posters spamming zoomer memes and sneedposting on /tv/ were senior citizens this whole time

>>213369745 (OP)
>"A mega WHAT, Jack?"

>>213370012
Yes

>>213370014
Maybe

>>213370028
:)

>>213370024
Old head. That’s how old I was when I saw Pirates

>>213370042
You are older than me, grandpa

>>213369745 (OP)
>jack is charismatic
>keira is hot
>practical effects
It was pure kino.

>>213369745 (OP)
Attractive people in the leads.

>>213370057
>Keira is hot
And underaged.

>>213369745 (OP)
Practical effects, great action, likeable characters and a memorable soundtracks.
No modern capeshit has any of this

>>213369987
That's nice. I'm 27 and it's possible I've watched all the same movies as you. I might be the one poster here you'll meet with the highest clearing rate of movies from 1920-1960

>>213369745 (OP)
>>213369829
>>213369797
It came out when you were a kid.

>>213369745 (OP)
They should never have cut the bit about Jack saving the slaves and the burning of the black pearl in the sequel

>>213370072
Funny how disney has gone to great lengths to avoid casting attractive people for the series and movies.

>>213369745 (OP)
I've been saying it for years, when you think of the phrase "fun movie" anyone who's seen PotC will immediately think of it. It's just effortlessly swashbuckling and fun in a way other modern movies are completely incapable of replicating.

>>213370024
>>213370042
I was 12 when I pirated Avengers and watched it at home

>>213370042
>Old head
There’s this black guy at work (girldad x 3) who said “old heads”. Is that a new urban dictionary phrase?

>original script for 5 was decent and felt like older flicks
>depp doesn't want a female villain
>depps a mess with severed finger and on opiates and strong meds also knee deep in heards abuse and she's tagging along with him during filming
>is fat because if this and literally drunk as jack
>hire two fucking nobody "duo directors"
>drunk depp and other mongs completely rewrite a new script and bin terry russios original good one for 5
Lol

>>213370092
/thread

>>213370123
it's normiespeak for "oldfag"

>>213370132
What was the original story for 5?

>This baffeld millenials
Didn’t Sleepaway Camp have a similar scene?

>>213369745 (OP)
Not that the movie would have been bad otherwise, but Depp's performance really elevated the whole thing.

>>213370225
I hate Depp, never saw the appeal

>>213370115
Yikes

>>213370092
many movies came out when we were kids, not many are still considered kino

Just the production design alone mogs most slop out today

>>213370269
Oh my god, Brian Cox!

>>213369745 (OP)
Everything is so neutered you couldn’t make it now. Some fag somewhere would get mad and we have to cater to every faggot twitter user now so you just can’t take that much of a risk.

>>213369745 (OP)
It takes itself seriously when it needs to, and each character has their own quirks.
Jack is the irreverent one, Will is the disarming straight man, Barbosa is the sardonic asshole who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and Elizabeth is the exasperated high horse rider. If this was the MCU, they’d all switch roles constantly because a writer REALLY wanted to get a certain quip into a scene but couldn’t crowbar the right character into it.

>>213369963
You thought it was 35 year olds calling you a retard all this time.

>>213370168
Sea witch villain out for jack who she blames for the death of her husband. Continues story from 4 with the mermaid and the dude she saved. Barbossa getting married. King and Queen of Spain seek a trident to control the sea (none of the break all curse shit)

>>213370373
Lol

>>213370506
What would the monsters be for this? Mermaids again?

Jagsbarro

>>213369745 (OP)
Lego Black Pearl leaked, price rumoured for $370 in USA and $330 in EU

>>213370777
Minifigs

We get Zoe Saldana, sometimes I forget she was in the movie lol

>>213370777
It's still wild to my that lego is expensive as fuck now when even I had a shopping bag full of bricks and we were poor to the point of not eating every day.

>>213370793
>no monkey Jack

>>213370802
Blame disney adults and scalpers for that

And the lego movie

>>213370777
>jack sparrow pirate ship
Woke name

>>213370777
Includes 2861 pieces
• US $369.99 - EU $329.99 - DE/FR €329.99 - UK £289.99
• Release: SEPTEMBER 12TH 2025

>>213370185
Still a better submarine than Oceangate made.

>>213370113
>I've been saying it for years

>when you think of the phrase "fun movie"

>anyone who's seen PotC will immediately think of it

>>213371031
Yes.

But in 2026 everyone will think of Masters of the Universe, releasing June 5, 2026

>>213369745 (OP)
Shut up

>>213369745 (OP)
Yes

>>213369745 (OP)
In light of all the atrocious slop that Disney has shat out since 2014+, it's honestly amazing that a trilogy built off of a fucking theme park ride like POTC turned out as well as it did, all things considered.
Obviously the POTC films are just casual popcorn flicks themselves, but I honestly think they were really well made. Davy Jones's CGI is literally still better than 99% of CGI today, the soundtrack had a distinct feel of its own which worked well with the setting, some of the concepts were interesting and well executed (The Flying Dutchman's crew being fish-people sounds retarded on paper but the actual look on film worked imo), the wider cast of characters could be fun without Jack Sparrow being in every scene, etc.

>>213370123
It’s old head speak for old head
Why are you go so concerned with turns of phrase you don’t recognize cross your path?

>>213371388
>it's honestly amazing that a trilogy built off of a fucking theme park ride like POTC turned out as well as it did, all things considered
The tired to do this again 3 times now and failed all 3 of them.

>>213371388
The soundtrack was just Zimmerman replaying his Gladiator work

>>213371388
Don't forget the choreography is unique and well done as well. The first time Depp and Bloom fight in the blacksmith store has more verticality and movement than most movies currently made.

>>213371521
It really was the gladiator score wasnt it?

>>213371501
>3 times
Which? What?

>>213371535
I like the fight in 2

>>213369987
Damn dude you literally didn't have to go to school with blacks. Respect.

>>213371555
>in 2
KINO

>>213371555
Jungle Cruise, Tomorrowland, Haunted Mansion.
Also Tower of Terror but that didn't get a theatrical release, and the bear one but that was more name only.

>>213370802
>bag full of bricks

>>213371857
What about Prince of Persia and Lone Ranger and John Carter or Tron?

Also, where is Pirates 6? Pirates 5 made a profit

>>213369792
This

>>213371962
None of these are based on a park attraction.

>>213371962
Yeah dude let's make a PotC movie without yagsparro, maybe it'll make a profit somehow.

>>213371962
6 got memed by the bed shitter's accusations

I'm actually 110 years old. If anyone has any questions about Mutiny on the Bounty of The 39 Steps, AMA

>>213369745 (OP)
PotC 1 is one of the last movies that have that real blockbuster high budget feel before they moved on to full greenscreen slop

>>213372233
:(

Who

>>213372219
Black Pearl had a $140 million budget

I guess $200 million adjusted for inflation

>>213370075
Yes, that's why she was so hot.

>>213372560
She is a plank

>>213369745 (OP)
>Why can't they replicate this magic anymore?
Because producers and writers there now are creatively and culturally bankrupt. "What if we take (white-people shit), and remake it with less white people" is the full extent of their creativity.

And it showed with the last POTC movie where the fucking dwarf was magically alive, as well as the retcon of how Jack got the Black Pearl and compass.

>>213372618
The dwarf was dead before 5?

I rewatched them recently, 2/3 were way better than I remembered

>>213372636
Yes. He was one of those who died off-screen when Captain Blackbeard used his magic to kill the Black Pearl crew, take the ship, and shrink it. Barbossa was the only survivor, but lost a leg in his escape, and the dwarf was nowhere to be found for Strange Tides after that. Then with the next one he's back without explanation.

>>213372694
3 would have been great if that final battle take so god damn long.

>>213372820
They did it that way to make it EPIC, bro.

>>213371521
Isn't it an adaption of the ride's music?

>>213370075
Out of 10!

>>213369957
>My dad was born when niggers were not allowed in the theater
Not racist, just common sense

>>213372724
Fuck, didn't knoe that. Thx

the unkillable ghost pirate army led to a huge lack of suspense in the climax but other than that flaw it is a flawless adventure film

>>213372588
imagine cumming on Keira's flat chest

>>213373863
Yikes

>>213370225
it was carried by Geoffrey Rush thoughbeit

>>213369745 (OP)
It's also pretty dark for a disney movie. The protagonists are all morally dubious. They scheme and backstab each other, it was great.

>>213373863
Hot post more

>>213369745 (OP)
I'm old af and watched the first movie in theaters.

What a lot of people don't recall is how this film caught everyone by surprise. Hollywood did a HORRIBLE job at marketing it before its release and it's like they didn't which demographic it was meant for.

>>213369745 (OP)
Didn't they quickly devolve into feminist slop with the whole movie serving the sole purpose of presenting an empowered and independent female pirate princess being bossgirl? Dint tell me you actually consume this kind of media, OP.

>>213369745 (OP)
MCU Capeshit has and always been souless, the peak of absolute slop cinema that is nothing but a souless CGI fest, with the most bland character you've ever seen, none of them as any edge to it, even Tony Stark, the only movie where he is a real character is the first Iron Man.

I can't believe that so many people pretends that the Avengers movie are great.

>>213374817
>didn't watch the movie but has strong opinions on it anyway

It wasn't made by a table of shareholders asking what is the most profitable and politically correct everything to hit all the checkboxes for a DEI check

All the movies from that time were like that. It was after 2008 that all movies started to be made based on something very similar to algorithms

>>213369792
This.
>The practical sites
>The excellent casting
>The fact that this trilogy actually pushes pg13 to its limits
>Its pirate movies. Thats rare in Hollywood
The humor and the quips are just the cherry on top. Pirates of the Caribbean is always a nice watch during summertime

>>213369745 (OP)
https://youtu.be/pqAKW7znYcs

Great story. Great acting. Great production. It felt authentic and you could tell it was made with passion by everyone involved. Something non existent today.

>>213371568
i had this set, shit was epic

>>213369745 (OP)
Because the characters didn't constantly pause what they were doing throughout the movie to stare into the camera and tell the audience how silly it is

>Why are we wearing these stupid pirate costumes?

>It's not a skull and bones, on my ship it means hope.
>Yeah well to me it looks like a skull and bones!

>We're pirates, and we come from the Caribbean
>Say that again...

>I challenge Davey Jones... to a dance off!

>>213369987
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SAlBWw6lnvo

>>213369745 (OP)
The worst PotC film is better than all slop released in the last 8 years

>>213372820
The final battle was pure kino, what are you talking about.

>>213369745 (OP)
what makes it work is that it feels like an old school adventure movie. By all counts it is a modern movie, but it has a genuine swashbuckler spirit beating in it and you can easily imagine someone like Errol Flynn being the lead.

>>213369745 (OP)
>Would these films have been as successful without the supernatural angle?
Moreso. This franchise died on the CGI vine.

>>213369829
The original trilogy was pretty much beat for beat with Star Wars, which makes it amusing that Disney proceeded to simply buy Star Wars outright afterward.

>>213376167
Lol no

>>213376167
Funny how the CGI in the last one is shittier than the CGI in the first one was.

>>213376486
Not true, see it in 4K

>>213369745 (OP)
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?
Jack wasn't the main character, even though he had so much presence in the movie.

>>213370748
Mermaids were featured in the beginning. But the sea witch is a ghost so probably ghost crew.

>>213369745 (OP)
capeshit now have characters written by committee so they are made overtly safe. compare johnny from original fantastic 4 who was piece of shit to the new one who is just forgettable.

>>213376975
It's all about inclusion. Nothing's allowed to be too white. Everyone must feel like there's an avatar that represents them in everything they watch. That sort of thinking is what ruined Hollywood.

>>213370057
Keira was mogged by Zoe and the voodoo chick

>>213369745 (OP)
It was earnest.

>>213376486
Twice the rendering time for 3d (remember 3d movies?)

>>213369792
>Filming outside
>Charismatic Actors
>Good music score
>Hiding exposition in a fun moving plot instead of hitting the breaks to exposit nonsense for 10 minutes
Ironically this is also why Iron Man 1 is good.

>>213377408
Iron Man 1 kinda sucks on rewatch dude

>>213377595
Plot maybe, but I still find the acting, pacing, action, general look and feel very good. Bad would be Iron Man 2. IMO

>>213372820
The final battle was kino. For me, the part that drags for so long is the part where they try to help Jack escape Davy Jone's locker.

>>213369745 (OP)
>capeshit capeshit capeshit
the new "americans" of OBSESSED retards
gonna have to filter it entirely at this rate

>>213369987
Jesus, bro.
You're THAT old and you're hanging out with us?
What's up, man? What do we got that people in your life or your age don't?

>>213369920
VHSs exist, anon. I myself use to watch it as a kid.

>>213369792
This. Great costumes and great sets go a long, long way. Fuck t shirts and other modern drab.

>>213377979
>What do we got that people in your life or your age don't?
Not him but they are probably dead and we are his only company

>>213370802
Because people buy them up,.put them together, and sell them. I bet some dude will buy 20 of these and sell them each for $500.

>>213378109
that makes no sense
putting them together is the fun part

>>213370092
ahh bro you got me there... fuck i forgot that i love every single thing i ever watched as a kid and everyone my age also loves every single movie that came out when i was a kid equally... aghhh shit but wait... i also love some movies that are coming out at my adult age... and wait... there are also movies i hated that came out when i was a kid.... woahhhh fuckkkk noooooooo .... ahghhhhh

>>213369792
This. Capeshit is almost completely filmed in front of a green screen.

>>213369792
Fpbp. If they made this movie today it'd be all CGI and green screen sets

>>213369905
He did lone ranger and they decided to sacrifice him to the antiracist mob.

>>213378414
Lone ranger wasnt bad

>>213378485
Lol no

>>213377045
>Everyone must feel like there's an avatar that represents them in everything they watch.
I'm a white racist. Where's my heroic avatar?

>>213369745 (OP)
Depp carried because his character was initially supposed to be something else entirely but his contribution changed everything

>>213370506
sounds kino as hell

>>213378485
True

>>213371388
It never fails to enrage me when people only praise the CGI in POTC and omit the writing, directly and exceptional acting that made the movie good

>>213369745 (OP)
I just want a new POTC movie, preferrably one that corrects the fuckups of the last one (like how Jack got his compass and the Black Pearl).

>>213370092
This. That’s why you like linken park so much too btw

>POTC
>HP
>LOTR
Has any movie or series the past 20 years even come close to matching these masterpieces?

>>213369745 (OP)
I rewatched it recently and it's actually very smart, the heroes and villains are written as such and their motivations are all layered yet practical and understandable. It's so good

>>213369987
Did you happen to see The Exorcist in theaters, what was that like? Did people faint during the angiography scene?

shit was so cash. i remember i bought the dvd for my mom

>>213369745 (OP)
I do wish we got more high budget, well made adventure movies. I don't even know the last time we got a movie in this genre as good as the black pearl.

>>213381527
Jack Sparrow is a genius for some reason

>>213376621
Yea. It's what make Star Wars work or Willy Wonka. You need a Luke, or a Charlie, or a William Turner to be your every man blank kind of character. Turner is capable himself, but not as seasoned around pirates. So it balances well. Jack being the lead ruins the balance.

>>213381190
If they do another I'd rather they ignore those retcons from 5. But bringing Davy Jones back would be dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tnLYEwZRgU

Davy Jones is one of the coolest characters ever put on film.

>>213383001
This

When was it released? 2003.
Back then even medium budget flicks had better quality than the big budget slop churned out today.

>>213370092
Retard

>>213383001
Bill Nighy is probably too old for the role now.

Weird take but Dead Man's Chest was my favorite movie.

Quite amazing what can happen when you aren't using a green screen for nearly 100% of your film. This is where action movies have gone completely wrong in the past few years. It's uncanny, flat and not immersive at all. I don't care if it saves you a few bucks. Maybe think about making more than saving.

>>213378141
Its like people playing to not play the game in MMOs

>>213383001
CGI peaked with him

>>213382622
the best satirical comedy that I have ever seen.

>>213370777
Can i have a non-lego kit?. And if its the dutchman, better

Fact: the earlier Disney movie Muppet Treasure Island, a pirate movie with a Hans Zimmer soundtrack which the Pirates movies followed in the vein of, was originally intended to be a King Arthur movie with the Muppets when Jim Henson died, it probably would have told the older Welsh version of the legend where Arthur had five sons with Guinevere, the eldest son being Amer, and not a movie about the French revision of the legend where Mordred his illegitimate son by the witch Morgana LaFey (actually a faerie queen in the real history) was Arthur's only heir.

The answer to your question about why movies like this haven't kept up, is politics

What happened to Gore Verbinski? He makes the best adventure movie/trilogy since Indian Jones then disappears forever. Did Lone Ranger kill his career or something?

>>213383221
I saw Dead Man's Chest and At World's End in theaters at midnight. I still remember the audience going crazy when Barbossa shows up at the end.

Only the OGs will remember Jolly Roger from the online game. Really hope Disney has the balls to bring him into the new movie, this guy obliterates Salazar, who was basically his dollar store knockoff.
For those who don’t know, this guy isn’t just some cursed pirate, he's a full-on undead warlord who got revived by voodoo magic after cheating the Pirate Lords at cards. Instead of just being mad at Jack, he declared war on all pirates and tried to wipe out the Brethren Court. Dude had skeleton armies after reanimating fallen sailors and other pirates at the sea and he has full control black magic. Basically the Uchiha Madara of this franchise, they could literally make this into a billion dollar kino if they lock the fuck in.

>>213369945
get back in the coffin gramps

>>213369745 (OP)
6/10 at best

>>213383531
who cares with no Depp the movie wont be the same

>>213369987
>I'm 86

>>213383587
at beat me. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down.

>>213383001
>*organ stops*

>>213369745 (OP)
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?
Capeshit is based on comics that never sold well or were liked much outside the USA. By the time that hollywood started gambing billions in production costs on films with 'Captain America' in the title to global audiences it can only be assumed that hollywood executives had consumed so much cocaine that not just thie sinuses were rotten but that their forebrain had become necrotic as well.

Pirates, swords, flintloc pilstols and sailing ships on the other hand are a thing everyone can get into, as opposed to aging has beens in ridiculous latex suits green screened into CGI cartoons with the stuck record theme of might is right

>>213370092
Speak for yourself. I caught the 3rd movie on ABC I believe on one of their thursday/sunday night movie broadcasts in my 20s and that was my introduction to the franchise. I went out and bought the other dvds shortly thereafter and to this day those 3 movies rank very high for me.

>>213369745 (OP)
I work in a nursing home and corporate gave us pur own Disney+ account. I put on COTBP for the residents and they loved it. The next day some of them were asking me if they could watch "that pirate movie". As a result we watched DMC and AWE back to back. They absolutely loved the trilogy. One of the residents kept going "Arr matey" every time he sees me now

>>213383001
>AH LOST BIRD-AH
>AH LOST BIRDA THAT NEVER LEARNED TA FLY-AH

>>213384316
based

>>213369920
You're white and almost 40 though.

>>213382749
The last attempt at an adventure movie was probably the jungle cruise movie which was unmitigated slop

It didn’t try to accomplish much, but they made sure they accomplished what they did perfectly.

>>213383531
Meh we've already had spooky skeleton armies before. Need something new

>>213369745 (OP)
>legit 10/10
Overly long.

>>213385374
Making a hit movie based on a theme park ride worked once, but not twice.

>>213383593
Jack's back, bro. How much he'll be a part of POTC 6 is still up in the air, though.

>>213385746
Yeah, Haunted mansion failed twice too. Surprised they couldn't make that one work but then again their obsession with making that ride into a black person movie is probably what tanked it

>>213369745 (OP)
films about english people are always kino

>>213385746
>Jack back to supporting role instead of mc
would be kino, him being the weird mentor man is what made 1 so great

>>213381104
The writing and editing is great in the first flick, but mediocre in the sequels.

>>213383515
Best part of that movie. I was disappointed by the sequel after watching it opening weekend. I didn't bother going to the theater for part 3.

>>213369945
I saw it too in 2003, i had my first kiss during that film.

>>213388208
The writing is underrated, I just couldn't follow it when I was young
The motivations and constantly shifting allegiances in the 3rd movie is kino and actually very well written if you keep track and follow what's happening. Every decision made is perfectly consistent with that characters motivationand current understanding of the situation.

>>213389089
>The writing is underrated
The writing turns Jack into a caricature in the sequels and unfortunately Depp's performance is also a copycat of his original work in the first movie. Very unclever... same with the writing. And it showed. You may not remember that both sequels began filming without a finished script.

>>213369829
It was also an original story. Capeshit is partially so fucking gay because every nerd who read a comic turns into a professor yammering about “dood this is the story where Dr turdshooter gets the dildo of destiny & becomes God”.

I respect Star Wars & POTC far more for creating an interesting story without having most of the work done for them.

>>213385746
I want a voodoo antagonist with a zombie pirate crew

>>213369915
>>213373863
My cock thinks Keira is perfection and I can not convince him otherwise.

>>213390815
I like to believe that was Jones and Calypso's love shack back then.

>>213369792
Plus the sounds! You had entire warehouses full of passionate white nerds making the sickest noises

You are really underselling the film. Is it a straight-forward adventure? Yes. But it's also one of the most expertly crafter sea-faroing experiences in cinematic history, with fantastic action from a couple of heart-throbs at the prime for their career. It's a movie that can't be replicated.

God it's just so endlessly rewatachable and so much fun to experience.

>>213369745 (OP)
The first Pirates of the Caribbean movie came out at the right time for what it was going for. There seems to have been a general scarcity of pirate movies during the 2000s, except for Disney's series.

>>213391016
Who would have been buried in the cemetery in their backyard, anon?

>>213391269
It also came out when LotR was still in vogue and people could reliably expect a fantasy-adventure movie with maybe some historical elements to just be a damn good movie.
Disney also made John Carter which was way better than I expected. That was like their last decent live action movie and I can't think of anything else after that even felt similar, whether it's disney or not disney.

>>213391472
>Anon, what is that poking me in the back?

>>213369745 (OP)
Formulaic doesn't necessarily have to mean bad. These movies were made when the accountants would stay the fuck out of the way and let the creatives actually make a good product instead of endless studio mandated rewrites and reshoots making everything an incoherent mess.

>>213369797
The american entertainment industry simply does not want to tell stories for some reason.

>>213369987
I want to believe

>>213369987
Bet you remember when 4chan was good. And not the festering shithole it is now.

If you guys want more pirate kino beyond POTC I'd strongly recommend Black Sails.

>>213392341
>Black Sails.
Too much gay...............
But the first few episodes with the british and black lesbians was nice.

>>213369987
post your wrinkly hand

>>213392341
What if I want to watch something that isn't gay propaganda?

My Nephew really enjoyed the ride at Disney, so now I'm working through all the movies with him. We're up to Stranger Tides right now. He wants to get to Yagsbaro.

>>213369987
thats based

>>213382622
I saw it in an independent theater and I'm only 39. It was incredible.

>>213392341
Black Sails pisses me off because Hannah New is literally one of the hottest women to ever grace a TV drama and yet she spends most of the show lezzing it up with some annoying mutt chick with a horrible french accent.

>>213369745 (OP)
>James Norrington, do you fear death?
>*stabs*
it's just kino

>>213392917
>Hannah New
I hate everything about britfags, but I do love the way their bitches ascents.

>>213392341
Boring show and also gay so that's a no

>>213369745 (OP)
>mfw a formulaic film full of quips is actually a legit 10/10
Based, might rewatch later
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?
It's based off a thing that was actually real, pirates (albeit extremely exaggerated and stylized even ignoring the magic stuff) rather than just being made up superpowers.
>Why can't they replicate this magic anymore?
Hollywood ran all of the talented people out to replace them with browns and troons
>Would these films have been as successful without the supernatural angle?
No definitely not, it's a crucial piece of the vibe. It gets taken too far in the second two movies but it is core to the franchise and worked perfectly for the first.

Black Pearl just had extremely good fundamentals. Great actors, exciting action scenes, amazing set desing, sound design, historical feel, and and excellent script. After many many rewatches I do think there's about 15 minutes in the middle where it drags but it's still not boring at all.

>>213369745 (OP)
It's popular to hate Capeshit now, it makes people think they are smart, but they can still love quippy girlboss Disney Pirates.

>>213369745 (OP)
Just all around higher quality in every single area. Properly written children's entertainment/adventure story. Excellent big budget direction, photography, effects, music etc. Proper casting. Capeslop, especially Marvelslop, is slop for a reason. It's lazy cheap garbage poorly chucked together for low IQ, low demand audiences.

>>213369745 (OP)
In addition to just having great fundamentals, Black pearl worked so well because it was FOCUSED. It knew what the audience wanted to see, pirates. That vibe went into the DNA of the shots, sets, scenes, story, actors, weapons, locations, music, sound, all of it. It's like they asked at every step of the way "does this feel pirate like?" and that resulted in a product that feels pirate like which is what the audience came for. So the audience left happy.

>>213369905
Fell out with Hollywood. Had a number of big projecta lined up, like Bio-Shock, but kept fighting with executives over their demands to constantly cut corners on production
>just hire jeet vfx guys bro
>shoot it in serbia bro
That sort of stuff.

>>213381035
Sounds worse than JAGS BARRO tbqh

>>213369745 (OP)
Kino

>>213369890
>Formulaic? Most scenes are neat little twists on their generic counterparts
Yeah OP is literally a retard.
>if you were waiting for the opportune moment...that was it

I just finished marathoning the first three and I see this thread. They are so fucking perfect it actually pissed me off how terrishit every fucking movie is now a days and how we took for granted that movies kept getting better.

They even made a feminist character that goes from being a damsel in distress to the literal king of pirates and it works. It didnt feel heavy handed or "woke", she earned every bit of it.

I am genuinely fucking seething over the state of culture and how all of the good movies are at least 10 years old. God fucking damn it

>>213370086
>Hello, Fellow Geriatric Dudes!
Weird flex

>>213369987
Based old man dabbing on zoomers from his retirement community

>>213370144
Oldfags is OG. Oldhead is more equivalent to has been

>>213384316
>One of the residents kept going "Arr matey" every time he sees me now
He wants to butt-pirate you, cabin boy

>>213384316
Tried the same in my nursing home and got reprimanded for it. I’m really glad you can show them kino

Mind the boat

>>213395210
Lol

>>213383250
It's not about saving money. Movies are more expensive to produce than ever. It's more that it's a jobs program/employment scheme to add value to the studios, bigger government grants and tax bennies, while also allowing for bigger tax write-offs.

>>213369745 (OP)
Dead Man's Chest was better.

>>213392917
No she doesn't? Their relationship ends in like episode 2 and she ends up marrying a white gigachad

>>213369745 (OP)
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?
The story was based on the Monkey Island games, which themselves were based on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. It's indirectly the best video game adaption.

>>213392341
It's peak

>>213369792
They prioritized "fun".

>>213371535
>The first time Depp and Bloom fight in the blacksmith store has more verticality and movement than most movies currently made.
That scene reminded me of Jackie Chan fight scenes. Specifically Shanghai noon and Shanghai knights.

>>213390921
He's right

>>213377408
>>Hiding exposition in a fun moving plot instead of hitting the breaks to exposit nonsense for 10 minutes
They started doing this in the 2nd and third movie though.

>>213369797
>>213369829
are bots misusing the word 'formulaic'?

>>213371388
This guy was so good as George III in John Adams

>>213370132
Not going to lie, I enjoyed 5 more than 4 because the chick was hot as fuck. That scene with the dress gave me a boner

>>213371962
>What about Prince of Persia and Lone Ranger and John Carter or Tron?
He's talking about adaptations for rides from theme parks, not adaptations in general.

And speaking about that, I really loved Prince of Persia (watched it as a teen) and John Carter (watched it for the first time in 2022). They hold up really well.

>>213369745 (OP)
They are kino

>>213396872
>generic modern tough guy haircuts and beards
into the trash it goes

>>213369745 (OP)
>What made Curse of the Black Pearl hit so much harder than capeshit?
Cool worldbuilding, nice costumes and practical effects.
Too bad the series got sequeled into oblivion.

Orlando already had a lot of teenage girls with a poster of him on their wall.

>>213371075
Leto will kill it by over acting. Or going full method skeletor and trying to ride a fucking panther or some shit

>>213369745 (OP)
Modern entertainment is primarily a weapon. It's irrelevant they lose money because the same group prints the money.

>>213371521
>Zimmerman

When he hits, he hits. Unfortunately, he's equally capable of total wet farts like Dunc.

>>213369745 (OP)
>one of cinemas greatest swordfights

yo its formulaic af bro. Like no cap

>>213369915
I think Kiera is a genuine 9/10 i dont care about her flat chest

>>213369987
based

>>213401976
I like Hans Zimmer but he can really only do swashbuckly adventure tracks. Also his Backdraft theme is underated. When the drums kick it gets you pumped to see some fire get wreKt.

He isnt like Williams or Giacchino where they can do suspense, adventure. Romance, whimsical, tension and add their own unique style to it.

Horner could do it too RIP

>>213402186
Zimmer is great, just a bit overused by Nolan I guess. I think one of his better soundtracks is from the Lion King. This Land is a very emotional track. While I didn't like Interstellar, the music is great too.

Nobody appreciates this mate here. He was a badass. He refused Dave Jone's offer and went down like a dog, yes, but the point is that he said no and probably passed on to a better place instead of becoming a cursed pirate who is afraid of the judgement day. An by the way, this is one of the many reasons of the why this trilogy is so good. No way Disney would show a guy's troat being cut nowadays. Everything is too safe and sanitized and they take its colour away, they make it lifeless, without light. I have my personal theory that we are indeed very close to something bug and this corporations need to make the world more dark in order for those things to manifest. Darkness hate the light so the world must be involved in darkness if darkness wants to feel good to walk on this Earth.

>>213402523
meds

>>213369792
>>213369792
>>213369792
GOD. FUCKING. THIS!
Why does Hollywood fail to understand that practical sets + great soundtracks are literally the best indicators of a great movie

>>213369745 (OP)
Every single person involved in these movies loved what they were doing and had fun doing it. It just shows on screen.
The people working on modern capeshit hate every single moment, from the actors who despise the greenscreen slop acting to the jeets who get paid in Google Play giftcards to do the CGI in one afternoon.

>>213402523
>Ativar o Windows

>>213402812
There is simply no soul to these productions. Check out BTS footage from Casper, Hook, Terminator, Pirates, Jurassic Park, and Lord of the Rings and you will see people outside, legit working, and BUILDING something. Now, it's so rare to see sets being built (e.g. the new Superman) that it has become an actual selling point

>>213402186
zimmer did the soundtrack for call of duty MW2. and surprise, it's the best the series has ever had

>>213369792
fpbp. /endthread

>>213403061
I didn't watch Wicked, but I was very impressed from seeing the sets. They had full fields of flowers and did a lot of stuff in camera.

>>213370086
Fucking hell you're old. I'm 28

>>213369987
That's my favourite number.

>>213374817
Yeah the third one shits the bed with girlboss retardation, but it's a decent movie with that excluded. 2 is still the best out of the trilogy

>>213404701
>girlboss
What are you talking about retard?

>>213404731
Watch the third movie for your answer retard

>>213404751
I did, recently. Elizabeth used a sword which I guess is enough to upset you? But that happened in the 2nd one too

>>213404781
Watch it again

>>213369987
Just please tell me if Nixon was the goat president

>>213404796
Ok I will. But I can't promise I'll come out in tears because a woman has a speaking role.

>>213404834
Cool

>formulaic
PotC actually has an unconventional plot structure if you're watching carefully.
>MC gets paired up with unlikely companion
>they go on an adventure to rescue his love interest
>on the way he encounters challenges that help him grow as a person
>he saves the girl
Then instead of the movie ending it goes on for another hour
>ruffian sidekick turns out to have been the real MC all along
>the whole first half was just a trick he played on Will to kick off the real plotline, recapturing the black pearl
>tricks the love interest into helping him
>the movie ends with Will throwing away everything he wanted at the beginning

Easily Disney's best and one of my favorite movies.

>>213380950
What was it supposed to be?

>>213404731
its because elizabeth was pirate KING instead of pirate QUEEN theres a couple anons still triggered by it years on

>>213392341
>Black Sails.
Literal case of Hollywood faggots using the final episode to have a huge dude kissing dude scene. Fuck this gay ass show, you faggot

>>213405846
>he believed silver
oh no no no no no

>>213369745 (OP)
Kino