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Anonymous No.213375775 >>213376594 >>213376666 >>213376752 >>213376927 >>213376966 >>213376994 >>213377122 >>213377126 >>213378916 >>213380249 >>213380845 >>213382162 >>213382227
>humans need to be exterminated because they're violent, so I will bash their heads in to achieve it
Fucking hypocrite
Anonymous No.213376594 >>213376707 >>213376765 >>213376793 >>213376874 >>213377561
>>213375775 (OP)
If I understand it correctly, it's not because humans are violent.
If we're accounting for Ridley's comment about "Christ being the last Engineer", and with Ridley's apparently Gnostic view of Christ (views he seems to share with Phillip K. Dick - the Bladerunner short story author) - the problem the Engineers have is man rejecting the natural order of life, rejecting death, rejecting struggle, becoming Nietzsche's "Last Men" and then having the gall to ask for eternal life: in the Engineer's view, Weyland was asking to become an undying center of decadence and moral decay.
"I come not to bring peace, but a sword" - Matthew 10:34
From this perspective, the Engineer doesn't kill David out of hatred, he attempts to kill David out of pity, because David is a robot that *can't* die, and experience life's intended cycle.
The ship is full of black goo that turns people into cock shaped monsters because it's a ship of death meant with love, for a species that had grown decadent and missed the point (in the Engineer's view) of life.

tl;dr: the problem is "Last Men" asking for more life.

And this is a really interesting reversal of Roy Batty asking for more life. Roy asks his creator for more life, and more struggle, more heroism, and successfully kills his creator when he can't get it. Roy has a lust for life, where Weyland is merely afraid of dying.
Anonymous No.213376666
>>213375775 (OP)
>what's this? Humans have created books and pretty hanging crystals? hmm, well it has been two thousand years, all the humans I wanted to kill are dead and there must be billions more completely humans unrelated living now. Maybe I shouldn't kill them...NAH!
Anonymous No.213376707 >>213376788
>>213376594
I can get behind that argument, especially when we see one of the other seeded planets with people pretty much akin to the Engineers living in peace around a space port waiting for the gods returning
Anonymous No.213376752 >>213376793
>>213375775 (OP)
>/tv/ won't stop talking about Prometheus when they don't even know Plato's Prometheus vs Epimetheus human creation story
You can see this struggle in OP's image. Prometheus is compeltely baffled at the human existence (via writing) in books. Human intelligence is always posterior (epi-metheus) which confuses Pro-metheus.

The moral of the movie is that humans are an evolutionary leap beyond the engineers. (of course a human movie would be human optimistic)
Anonymous No.213376765 >>213376808 >>213376811 >>213376843 >>213378832 >>213378989
>>213376594
How did the engineer know David was a robot before ripping his head off?
Anonymous No.213376788 >>213379434
>>213376707
Those are degenerated engineers. David says this explicitly. The engineers had once built a gigantic impressive empire, but it has since turned to dust. And that pale shadow of their former self was all that remains. He says it over and over, but you don't listen.
Anonymous No.213376793 >>213376907
>>213376752
and make sure to ignore Christcuck explanations like this>>213376594 Christianity and all abrahamic religions modern self understanding is platonic inspired. Christianity is the religious performance of platonic greek thought and existence. We must discuss from Plato to understand these movies.
Anonymous No.213376808
>>213376765
how do you know someone is a tranny without seeing between their legs?
Anonymous No.213376811 >>213376858
>>213376765
David's Patronus was a microwave oven
Anonymous No.213376843 >>213379320
>>213376765
how can you tell the difference between an AI image and a real one?
Anonymous No.213376858
>>213376811
lel
Anonymous No.213376866
>I hate humanity because of how they treated Elizabeth.
>I guess I'm now gonna kill Elizabeth as well
Anonymous No.213376874 >>213376952 >>213377176
>>213376594
>Man who lives a million years gets super pissed off at man who lives barely a hundred begging for a few more years
>Man with an ocean of drinkable water gets super pissed off at man with an empty cup dying of thirst, begging for a sip
Engineers are such gigantic hypocrites
Anonymous No.213376907
>>213376793
Gnostic Christianity is essentially very hostile to Abrahamism. It frames the god of the jews as an evil entity which Christ was sent to free those enslaved by it from.
Take this or leave it.
Anonymous No.213376927
>>213375775 (OP)
He actually wasn't going to attack Shaw but she struck first.
Anonymous No.213376952
>>213376874
I think it's more "because I love you, I'll try to kill you, and if you survive it's because you were strong enough to"
Anonymous No.213376966
>>213375775 (OP)
Thats not the reason.
Anonymous No.213376982
It was the Engineer's equivalent of drowning kittens. You wouldn't get it
Anonymous No.213376994 >>213377052 >>213377248
>>213375775 (OP)
The Engineers wanted to create a peaceful race but I've never seen anyone ask why. People just assume they're benevolent but they might've just needed docile slaves.
Anonymous No.213377052 >>213377181
>>213376994
>The Engineers wanted to create a peaceful race
I'm not sure I agree with this
Anonymous No.213377058 >>213377447
the engineer chimping out was just dumb and disappointing, i hated it
Anonymous No.213377122
>>213375775 (OP)
Wow, when did he say that? I missed it
Anonymous No.213377126
>>213375775 (OP)
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Anonymous No.213377176
>>213376874
Because the man dying of thirst doesn't understand that drinking water is NOT the be all end all of life as a concept. He's so caught up with the notion that life must "endure" that he's missing the fact that life itself ends to begin with
Anonymous No.213377181 >>213377280 >>213377333
>>213377052
Scott said the reason they wanted to exterminate humans is because they are killing the planet and themselves.
Anonymous No.213377248
>>213376994
>I've never seen anyone ask why
EVERYONE FUCKING ASKED WHY. That's all anyone ever does about this movie. WHY WHY WHY WHY? Because the movie provides zero answers to its thousand mystery boxes. And they wonder why people are turned off it.
Anonymous No.213377280
>>213377181
He's absolutely right, but that doesn't mean the Engineers want humans to be soft hippies.
Anonymous No.213377329
watch furious gods docu on making of
god made engineers
engineers made humans all over
engineers want to kill humans because they killed jesus
instead god kills engineers via the black goo they were gonna use against us
>fin
Anonymous No.213377333 >>213377363 >>213377369 >>213377422
>>213377181
>because they are killing the planet and themselves
how the fuck would the Engineers know such a thing when the last time they visited there were a maximum population of few hundred thousand pre-industrial humans scattered around the planet?
Anonymous No.213377363
>>213377333
they would have left some monitoring system in place since seeding the planet
>obviously
Anonymous No.213377369
>>213377333
there were millions on people with states like Rome.
Anonymous No.213377422
>>213377333
If we're going by the "Christ was the last Engineer" to visit Earth theory, Christ was like attempting to treat cancer at an early stage.
They could guess where humans would be a few thousand years later.
Anonymous No.213377447 >>213377658
>>213377058

yeah making him into a pissed off monster, stomping around a chasing shaw kinda defeated the whole "whoa this guy represents this interesting, super advanced race that has motivations that are hard to understand". turning him into jason voorhees was a dumb move.
Anonymous No.213377468
weyland clearly never read the bible
"though you are gods you will die like men"
Psalm 82
>t. realizer that when Yahweh judges the wicked gods, they will die like men
Anonymous No.213377520 >>213377556
Thankfully Yahweh, too, has died, and there is no god but Man.
Anonymous No.213377556 >>213377781
>>213377520
>Thankfully Yahweh, too, has died, and there is no god but Man.
not in ridley's universe, in furious gods documentary he says that God made the engineers - the biblical God Yahweh created the angels some of which are fallen (the engineers)
Anonymous No.213377561
>>213376594
>rejecting death...muh Nietzsche...and then having the gall to ask for eternal life
Nietzsche dicksuckers remain the most retarded niggers alive
Anonymous No.213377658
>>213377447
They needed something to be scary at the end, I guess. It should have been the squid breaking loose and coming into kill everyone and impregnate the confused Engineer
Anonymous No.213377781 >>213378612
>>213377556
I literally just watched the Furious Gods documentary, and it doesn't say that anywhere.
I've also been reading a lot of the preproduction material.
There's nothing about Prometheus that's in favor of outdated old Aeon beliefs.
Anonymous No.213378612 >>213378761
>>213377781
sorry that you missed it but it's in there he says god made the engineers also that they are dark / fallen angels
Anonymous No.213378761
>>213378612
Nah. I know what I watched.
Anonymous No.213378832
>>213376765
YWNBAH
Anonymous No.213378916
>>213375775 (OP)
Using violence to stop violence makes sense. Having said that, that's not the point of the film.
Anonymous No.213378989
>>213376765
David sort of told him he was. Guy Ritchie says "tell him I made you" or something to that effect. The engineer probably did not precisely understand that he was an android, but some kind of artificial human imitation thingamajig.
Anonymous No.213379320
>>213376843
I dont remember david having extra fingers
Anonymous No.213379434
>>213376788
And David is also broken/malfunctioning at this point.... David already has a god complex... he arrives and immediately kills all life... so how does she know the promethus history and what was going on? Because he kills everything as soon as he arrives....
Anonymous No.213380249
>>213375775 (OP)
The violence was ultimately irrelevant, it was like if you were white (I know brickfuss Americans have trouble with hypotheticals but just try to follow along) and a bunch of Jeets woke you up from your nice comfy slumber.

They're babbling in broken English about being "brahmin saaar bloody utter pradesh we wuz aryans" while sharting all over your bedroom. Then some fucking senile old Jewish coomer has the gall to get his realdoll (filled with sticky white fluids) to speak to you in your language something like "how do you do fellow creatorβ„’" and ask for some free gibsmedats. You'd fly into a VRIL fuelled rage and start bashing those fucking manlets too.

In case the point isn't clear and explicit enough, they even use "actual" Proto-Indo-European for what David and the Engineer says.
Anonymous No.213380845
>>213375775 (OP)
Prometheus is just like that, Ok?
Anonymous No.213382162
>>213375775 (OP)
the human was puny and arrogant, so he got squished
Anonymous No.213382227
>>213375775 (OP)
it was actually because he saw what Indians are like