Thread 213378012

>600 mill
>ITS A FLOP A FLOP

>>213378012 (OP)
I really, really, really like this image. Mind if I save it?

>>213378796
go ahead, it's all yours.
you can save it if you want to

>>213378012 (OP)
Yes. Your point being?

>>213378012 (OP)
I hate how forced and out of place Superman's wholesomeness feels in this movie. Also, Crypto's addiction is another layer of wholesome cringe.

>>213379415
Good morning saar

>>213378012 (OP)
Sneedertards are coping so hard right now

>>213378012 (OP)
700 million before end of august

>>213379452
Nth but krypto ate up a shit ton of screen time in a short movie and was a generally annoying ass dog
I like the movie but krypto was too much of a shit

>>213378012 (OP)
its a flop unless it hits one billion

>CAUSE I'M A MARVEL BTFOER YES I AM
>WELL I'M A MARVEL BTFOER YES I AM

>>213379476
>>213379452
>>213379415
>>213379267
So it's still not going to beat MoS huh. Tough luck Gunnjeet

>>213379525
F4 just got announced to have dropped 67%. that's as bad as BNW(68%) and nearly as bad as BvS(69%).

Superman is just doing a mid performance to be a modest success and I'm pretty sure Feige would kill Pedro Pascal and the entire cast if it means doing that well at this point. It's so over for capekino

>>213379556
>F4 just got announced to have dropped 67%
Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes feige got gunn'd down didn't he?

>>213379452
Not a saar, and you know Im correct.
Everyone else in this movie has more grey-ish morals, but Superman is on "save everything" mode. He was taking his sweet time because wanted to save that huge lizard that was destroying the city.
Also, I would have at least given a bone breaking handshake to Lex for the sole reason that he is so obsessed, if I was Supes.
That whole "I am human too!" speech fails when you make Superman so one dimensionally wholesome

>14 minutes shorter than the last solo superman movie
that alone makes it worse, it's still great though

>>213378012 (OP)
Imagine how much good in the world these $600M could do, like helping starving children in Africa for example.

But nah, the Hollywood producers would rather use this money to make Morbius 2 or some other bullshit like that.

>>213379596
it's barely going to maybe crack 500m at this rate. what the FUCK were they thinking putting it so close to Superman, it hurt them both but clearly F4 more. talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

>>213378012 (OP)
Akshually chud it never needed to break even and it still made more than Man of Steel domestically and not adjusted for inflation

>>213378012 (OP)
>meanwhile F4 is flopping hard
total MCU death

>>213379630
>like helping starving children in Africa for example
Thats like tossing your money into the furnace. I'd rather spend those 600millies making the most retarded skyscraper ever, rather than donate them to Africa natives

>DC movies were box office hits
>Beloved by the people. MoS audience score MOGS S25's future final score. MoS has 250k+ user reviews and S25 a pitiful 25k, so as the S25 user reviews increase the score will plummet to well below MoS's like how it does when for the critics score for nearly every movie as more critic reviews come in. I cannot believe I have to explain this to malefactor Gunn shills but they are either dishonest or extremely stupid so here we are...
>first female-led superhero movie in WW huge hit and the hit that Aquaman cool for once were his
>He did this in an era where it was far harder for auteurs to make BO hits
>his JL projected to make like 1.2-1.5 billion before his daughter died (RIP) and malefactor Whedon to ruin his vision
>Zimmer score for Superman/MoS iconic and rendered Williams irrelevant until Whedon/Gunn resurrected the Williams score out of pure spite
>Disney had to STEAL the plans for JL2/3 in order to craft IW/EG - so literally IW/EG box office numbers are owed to Snyder's concepts.
>Snyder is technically the 3rd highest grossing director ever because of this
MEANWHILE
>S25 is a box office flop, making only 500m for a movie that cost like 450m to make (budget/marketing)
>extremely divisive movie, mainly praised by the 'critics' because WB got wise to Disney's chicanery but as covered above the final audience score will sit at something pitiful, a 60% at MOST even WHEN account for malefactor Gunn shills
>early release on streaming because WB are cutting their losses and angry with Gunn.
>MoS streaming numbers skyrocket because people wish to get the taste of S25 out of their mouths
ALSO
>Snyder beloved by his crew and casts, Gunn the Scum mainly hated by his crew and casts
>Gunn betrayed Cavill
FUCK you Gunn scum

>>213379661
>it's barely going to maybe crack 500m at this rate
Press [W] to worry

>>213378012 (OP)
>Superman at the Sphere

>>213379666
>it still made more than Man of Steel domestically
I fact checked this and it's true. The film's a hit, pack it up mousesaars it's OVER

>>213379544
already did and you know it

>>213379741
Nice meme, now time to join us in reality where it’ll be lucky to hit $600 and indeed did not break even

>>213379666
>break even
It broke even on the opening weekend

>>213379772
Now adjust for inflation, gunn scum. The people loved MoS, Supershit not so much.

>>213379772
>highest grossing solo Superman movie at the domestic box office not adjusted for inflation excluding Tuesday showtimes past 6pm or days when it’s raining

>>213379814
>Now adjust for inflation
Here comes the cope lmao
Say "muh china!" next

>>213379772
This is bullshit btw. Man of Steel was a cultural phenomenon. How else do you get tie-ins with places like 7/11, IHOP, and Sears?

>>213379798
Meds

>>213379828
More people saw Mos because the people actually liked that movie. Snyder only had paid critics against him, Gun only has paid critics on his side.

>>213379717
>>Beloved by the people. MoS audience score MOGS S25's future final score. MoS has 250k+ user reviews and S25 a pitiful 25k, so as the S25 user reviews increase the score will plummet to well below MoS's like how it does when for the critics score for nearly every movie as more critic reviews come in. I cannot believe I have to explain this to malefactor Gunn shills but they are either dishonest or extremely stupid so here we are...
Supremely based. Gunnbots need to be put in their place when they go on about MUH RT AUDIENCE REVIEW SCORE. It's a paper tiger lolol

>>213379772
>MoS=670+ millies total
>Superman= 551+ millies total
Gunnman lost. Only Americans went to see that shit because they are in a desperate need of a positive American symbol. Meanwhile the rest of the world dont give a shit about an wholesomely autistic guy who flies and wears his red undies over his pants

>>213379863
Yes, I am aware that you chuds don't know what "break even" means

>>213379828
>it’s fair to compare the performance of two products released at different times without adjusting for inflation because… it just is, okay?!

>>213379717
avatar mogs all capeshit

>CAUSE I'M A MOUSE SLAYER YES I AM
>WELL I'M A MOUSE SLAYER YES I AM

>>213379939
tbf if you did that you'd have to say that MoS was a giga flop because Superman 1978 did like 1.4 billy adjusted for inflation

>>213379939
It has been proven time and time again that you chuds will just immediately switch to a different cope once your "adjust for inflation" cope has been debunked

>>213379939
Speaking as a non Snyderfag, they have essentially won the catchy memewar stuff when it comes to Superman vs MoS because MoS did gross more. You can obviously go into all autistic nerd explanations like half the theatres around now vs. 2013, more expensive tickets and streaming, blah blah but like I wrote, that's all lame nerdy hang wringing and logic. For pure meme shit and shitting on someone, MoSfags won

>>213380012
And yet you haven’t debunked it, so I guess we’ll never know

>>213378012 (OP)
The amount of seethe this one movie created has been exemplary.

Nobody likes Krypto

>>213380050
It has crushed three tentpole MCU movies within 2025, the mouse won't take this extreme humilliation ritual lightly

So how did this Gunn vs. Snyder stuff start anyway? I like Superman as a character so I like both movies, and figured it would be Superman vs. F4 but I honestly see more MoS vs Superman 2025 shitflinging. I would get it if Gunn fired Snyder or something but he got hired well after Snyder was gone.

>>213379820
They blamed the movie bombing internationally on a heatwave in Europe, and then, not even memeing, on trump

>>213380115
the heatwave actually did fuck up it's opening in the UK at least because it bounced back and actually did fairly well there once it broke. obviously not all of Europe though, as not even all of EU was affected.

>>213378012 (OP)
I knew it was going to be a slop, because Eric Butts cried when he watched the trailer. He works perfectly as a goyslop redflag. You know that if he cries while watching something, then that something is 100% certified goyslop

>>213380115
>and then, not even memeing, on trump
And they're 100 objectively correct

>>213380165
he cries when he watches literally every trailer, BvS too. he does it on purpose because that's his gimmick

>>213380165
so has he made crying his gimmick? that can't possibly have any sort of longevity to it.

>>213380165
>look up his channel
>55k subs
>hundreds of views
lol
lmao even

>>213378012 (OP)
>600 mill
Source?

>>213378012 (OP)
>>213378796
Samefag. Kill yourself. Oh BTW I saged this thread :)

>>213380104
I don't really know, frankly you could do a documentary on it. Somebody made a post a while back how in the 2010s Snyder's fanbase have an intense pajeet element wasn't a thing - back then his fans were stereotyped as le dudebros. I'd write 'le dudebro chuds' but 'chud' didn't even exist as a lame pejorative back then. I even checked the archives and stuff from 2016 or so on BvS had no mentions of pajeets, India, etc. But then it did blow up in South Asia for reasons that require some autistic sociological deep dive into their culture. There is also the element of shitposting - what is sincere intense fandom vs. shitposting? These lame skinnyfat faggots on YouTube showing screencaps on unhinged Snyderfans on X or reddit and handwringing over how toxic they are isn't an iota as interesting as the idea of some long documentary about the origins and evolution of Snyder's intense fandom. As for Gunn, him having a DCU is like a final death knell and he didn't apparently make any efforts to resurrect the Snyderverse once in power (even though I doubt WB would have sanctioned it and Snyder and various other actors will have moved on), so that's why he's a devil figure of sorts. Quite honestly I won't ever really discount the possibility of JL 2/3 in some form if we can get stuff like Twin Peaks s3. But that means that Darkseid sure took his sweet as time readying his armada.

>>213380104
Oh it’s fairly simple
>hack Snyder gets a million chances to make a big budget blockbuster
>fails over and over
>snydercucks come up with the cope that the real unedited justice league would have done well!
>they bitch and moan for years
>snyder cut gets released and it sucks
>snyder gets shut out finally
>his fans have a seethie over whoever takes over the DC grift

Odds we will get a cameo from Steel next film?

>>213379772
>solo Superman movie
It literally wasn’t, though? Green Lantern and that ngubu are also in it and get pretty significant screentime

>>213380104
They aren't Gunn fans, they hate Snyder and Snyderbros. They just like seeing the old DC franchise paved over with a new one, and they were confident that the GotG guy would hit it big with Superman and wipe out MOS's box office

>>213380312
I should also add there is that perception the Rock created that Gunn betrayed Cavill. The way Gunn tells it, the final aspects of the deal were being sorted out and then they got blindsided by Cavill's Black Adam cameo. So once the deal was signed soon after that (as planned) they then had to sit with Cavill and fire him, so it was a big optics nightmare.

>>213378012 (OP)
Yeah
If you don’t make more than twice on what you spent on media, it’s a flop.

>>213380104
Snyder cult were not THAT annoying before but went they threw at them the bone known as Justice league snyder cut edition they came back as force of delusion and filled with schizos

>>213380104
>So how did this Gunn vs. Snyder stuff start anyway?
I think its the aesthetic change. Gunn's Superman is colorful and cheerful, whereas Snyder's style is grim dark and symbolic. People liked Snyder's grimdark approach because it was contrasting MCU's colorfulness as a different flavor of capeshit.
On the other hand, Gunn's Superman does feel like a Marvel movie, with its color, quips and themes. It pretty much destroys that capeshit aesthetic equilibrium, and some DC fans wont have it.
Keep in mind that DC extended Snyder's grimdark aesthetic to videogames as well, so people got used to Snyder's style so much, they thought it was the standard DC style

>>213380320
>>snyder cut gets released and it sucks
I thought it was okay, but the thing is is that it was 4 hours long. So it all begs the question of what a theatrical JL that was all Snyder's would have been like.

>>213379525
>My capeflop made slightly more than two other capeflops

Not quite the W you think it is, but ok.

>>213380187
>he cries when he watches literally every trailer
No he doesnt. He only cries to top goyslop shit

>>213380331
Does Superman have an equivalent for Dick Grayson?

>>213380178
Or, the world was done with Hollywood superheroes after Endgame, and Gunn is only successful with GotG

>>213380470
Jimmy Olsen

>>213379814
>>213379939
Inflation is a jewish moneylender spook.

>>213380470
A version of Mon-El may be best suited to that. IIRC he's from a cousin race of the Kryptonians. Either that or he's a survivor like Kara but the point is this Kryptonian/Kryptonian-adjacent refugee can crash on Earth, become Superboy, grow up into Valor the way Dick grey from Robin into Nightwing.

>>213380430
>superchad broke even
>the other MCUflops didn't
CAUSE I'M GETTING FIRED YES I AM
WELL I'M GETTING FIRED YES I AM

>>213380470
Supergirl is the closest thing he really has to a sidekick, and is his first legacy character so she'd be his Grayson.

>>213380402
I am glad that Zack Snyder's Justice League cut happened, because it completely vindicated Joss Whedon in my eyes.

>>213380320
I think Man of Steel was the only DC movie where Snyder had full liberty as a director, and this is why its so solid.
You can tell that BvS is fucked because lots of DC execs wanted to rush things to keep up with MCU. Same with Justice League. They wanted a tone shift because they incorrectly thought that this was what the problem was with DC movies

>>213380545
Is this cute fan art of an actual story? Like Robin and Supergirl get lost being teenage idiots so Batman and Superman have to go looking.

>>213380595
It's an actual story that's coming out in Waid's World's Finest run. It's about them getting lost on a road trip. Butt it's not out yet so idk the details.

>In a November 2023 interview, Snyder himself said he has no further interest in superhero adaptations unless invited by Gunn to direct a faithful adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns

Could it work?

>>213380624
>>213380595
They do team up quite a bit though in the run already. They had a date that was awkward and went horrible and now they act more like siblings.

>>213380418
>On the other hand, Gunn's Superman does feel like a Marvel movie, with its color, quips and themes. It pretty much destroys that capeshit aesthetic equilibrium, and some DC fans wont have it.
This is the main point of contention. I'm a Snyderfag, but was willing to accept someone else taking over DC, as long as they kept the prestige level film making and feeling of gravitas that started with TDK trilogy. Gunn is the complete antithesis of that, so it's war.

>>213379814
When you adjust for inflation, they both lose to 70s Superman.

>>213380663
Waid good in your opinion? I've heard of raging seethe over his Daredevil run. I'd love to see a World's Finest movie. Number of shit you can do
>Batman and Superman are socialising nicely
>Mxyzptlk shows up to be an asshole
>gets outwitted so has to fuck off home
>as a final fuck you he shits out red kryptonite, gold kryptonite, blue kryptonite, etc. and scatters them over America whilst letting the villains know before fucking off
>road trip/scavenging hunt movie for all the kryptonite and Luthor setting his dogs on both of them - shit can be very light hearted before you get progressively more serious villains they have to deal with
>end it on sincere note of Superman keeping behind a bit of green kryptonite to give to Batman

>>213380769
>When you adjust for inflation, they both lose to 70s Superman.
not comparable, as there was still a mono culture up to the early 2000s.

>>213380775
>World's Finest movie
Create something like Project Cadmus, but instead it's called Project Surya and it's goal is to change the solar emissions from the sun from yellow to red in order to remove Superman as a threat. Instead however, they leave the world open to Mongul the tyrant to come in and claim Earth as his own.

>>213380775
>Waid good
He's alright, he's a huge Silver Age boomerfag so there's that. He truly takes the Superman no-kill rule to autistic heights. Honestly he's better for just fun Elseworlds stories, or small sidestories like the Supergirl/Robin stuff I just described. Kind of just like popcorn fun.

>>213380802
capeshit was also still on the rise in the 2010s because Avengers just came out and MoS was coming off the hype of TDK trilogy, and China still saw a lot of Hollywood movies when capeshit is flatlining, China has their own industry so isn't buying American capeslop, and it's coming off the most recent DC hype of..

Joker 2 and the Flash?

>>213380802
capeshit was also still on the rise in the 2010s because Avengers just came out and MoS was coming off the hype of TDK trilogy, and China still saw a lot of Hollywood movies. Now Superman 2025 is coming out when capeshit is flatlining, China has their own industry so isn't buying American capeslop, and it's coming off the most recent DC hype of..

Joker 2 and the Flash?

>>213379544
>SAAAAAAAAAAR SAAAAAAAAAR
>YOU ARE LOW CASTE SAAAR
Why do you people even like the illiterate so much? Is it because he borrows the visual language of bollywood for a western context?

>>213379772
>>21337974
Nice cope, still not making 670 gunjeeto. Though india tried its best

>>213381950
>nice cope
>proceed to cope
SuperGOD beat man of murder domestic there is nothing bad about that statement