Thread 213409910

Why does reddit love this souless braindead studio-slop? It doesn't hold a candle to the original.

>>213409910 (OP)
You know the original Dawn of the Dead is a Dolemite style 1970s blaxploitation movie right???

Zack Snyder is a much better director than Romero

>>213409910 (OP)
Why does this movie get the credit for "bringing back zombies" when it was 28 Days Later? In fact this movie used fast zombies which is a thing that started in 28 days later

>heard for years from Gen Xers like Redditlettermedia that Snyder's DotD is dogshit compared to the original
>watch the original
>It's just slowslop, horrible makeup and some with a sprinkling of okay directing

Why do they praise it again?
I can get enjoying the original but to go as far to say the Remake is complete dogshit just seems like textbook OLD GOOD NEW BAD posting for the early 2000's

>>213409910 (OP)
because it fully realized the potential that zombie movies had to be gory and shocking and it was the first zombie movie to do so.

>>213410019
In the cultural zeitgeist when people praise Dawn of the Dead they are really praising Romero more generally, or Night of the Living Dead/Day of the Dead more specifically.

When people think of the romero films all the scenes they think of are from those two and not the exploitation movie that is Dawn of the Dead.

Snyder is only good at making music videos and montages.

you're calling everything "slop" because your efriends will be demonetized for profanity

>>213409910 (OP)
Its kino and has good characters

>>213409910 (OP)
Your buzzwords have no power against kino. Nice try.

>>213409910 (OP)
lmao were you the guy at the screening in Manchester who dropped his beer bottle and it exploded everywhere? fucking loser

>>213410019
Romero’s has an iconic soundtrack. People who haven’t even seen the movie have heard The Gonk. The fuck does the shitty soulless remake have?
>hurr durr muh goyslop grimdark zog metal

>>213410145
Sorry but this is wrong and another case of anon projecting a modern lens onto the movie. The most iconic/memorable scenes in Dawn were the exploitation scenes like the zombie child killing scenes, the head explosion. This is obviously apparent to anyone because the remake tried to outdo it with the zombie baby

>>213410879
The use of Cash's When The Man Comes Around in the opening credits where you see the apocalypse unfold throughout the world is memorable

>>213409910 (OP)
Romero's is more comfy.

>>213409910 (OP)
The first sequence carried the whole movie

>>213411251
Way more comfy.
Whole trilogy is kino.

>>213409910 (OP)
The first 10 minutes is one of the best zombie movies ever made.

>>213409910 (OP)
Zombie movies are one of those genres that benefit from modern CGI and makeup techniques, the original is so wooden and theatrical that it feels spatially stuffy, a movie about zombie apocalypse has to have both visual and auditory presence beyond what the characters are doing

>>213409910 (OP)
This and 300 are Snyder's only good films

>>213409972
Because there were no Zombies in 28 Days Later. They were infected by a rage virus which made them fast. Dawn of the Dead are true Zombies because they die before they come back. They were the first fast Zombies.

It's fun, good simple zombie adventure without "muh evil capitalism" lecture. The original movie is alright at best, Zack Synder is a hack, but his view of the original movie is fresh and entertaining

The snyder version is alright, not bad but nowhere near the orginal. I think it gets a bit of extra good will from people because most of the 70s horror remakes being made around the 00s completely missed the mark.

>>213412780
Blab bla bla also I’m gay and 600 lbs and a vegan and have a tiny white pecker

>>213412935
Oh me too btw I’m trans!

yall niggas gay

>>213409910 (OP)
the remake has more comedy and lightheartedness, and more focus on badass gore and violence a la 2000s

>>213413063
original is more gloomy, more of a "what would you do if a zombie apocalypse happened, it would be dreadful" (but with some very bright moments also, and some action)

Both are good for their own reasons, and both are worth watching and enjoying!

>>213413179
Based Morpheus

>>213411251
I really like the part of zombie media where they just set up their own place and make it cozy and unique.
Even if each new movie followed a blueprint of previous such locations it still manages to make something unique.Just find it really neat and comfy.

>>213410879
>what does the remake have
arguably the most topical use of Down With The Sickness in cinema
>credits roll
>OH AH-AH-AH-AH!
kino

>>213411188
No it isnt. People remember the hands bursting thru the plywood from night. The zombie child from Night. They remember bub the zombie from Day.

The only thing dawn has is the concept of a mall full of zombies.

>>213413857
>everyone fucking dies horribly right off the boat as your stupid dog attracts a horde of the undead to eat your flesh
>the end credits are red and splatter on the screen like blood
>down with the sickness
That's how you do horror. That's how you send people home pissing their pants at the thought of sprinting zombies. That's how you give people nightmares. The intro with all the news footage and johnny cash's the man comes around was also great. What a movie.
Romero's trilogy is comfy but also: day >> night > dawn. I'd put snyder's dawn in second place of that list :)

>>213409943
So is the first movie? What's your point?

>>213410019
Look, I actually prefer the hack snyder remake overall. But the first one excels at so many things that the remake doesn't even touch
>actual character development
>showing a failed military response (although the remakes opening is also kino)
>the kino scenes of the three mcs laughing and running amok through the shopping mall on a trolley
>better cinematography and no shaky cam
That's just off the top of my head. I haven't watched it in years, I'm sure if I put it on today I could list another dozen things it does better. It's a great movie. It just so happens that gunn and snyders remake is one of the most entertaining zombie movies in general... but that's just because they nailed the survival element

>>213414164
I really liked that the ending was equally negative and positive
>the made it to an island offcoast
>but there are zombies
>did they make it .. ?
also even that final scene is another horror scenario that'll stay in your head for a while after seeing it.

>>213410145
>car exploding killing the dad
>black mc camping out in the house and being murdered
>zombie headshot exploding
>military resistance getting infected in the stairwell and turning on each other
>skating through the mall on a trolley
>white guy soldier becoming infected
>zombies utterly packed in the maintenance corridor of the mall
>antagonist being by far the most rational person in the story
>choke on em!!!
These are the most memorable scenes from the Romero trilogy if you ask me, and the majority of them are from Dawn. You should honestly shut the fuck up and never post again.

>>213410019
>textbook OLD GOOD NEW BAD posting
You're going to end up spitefully spouting a lot of the worst takes ever if you let this bother you. I also prefer snyder's dawn but old good new bad is mostly correct and you should get over it.

>>213409910 (OP)
Simplest answer: because there's a scene where a lounge version of Down With The Sickness plays over it, so naturally Reddit troons lost their fuckin minds because le heckin soooooo ironic

>>213412780
>there were no Zombies in 28 Days Later.
the only people that say this shit are the retards that try to convince people that the walking dead is good cuse le slow walk zombies are more scuury for reasons

>>213412780
>Dawn Remake is the first fast zombies
Return of the Living Dead says hello

>>213409972
>Why does this movie get the credit for "bringing back zombies" when it was 28 Days Later?
Romero himself said that the popularity of Resident Evil (the PS1 video games) is what reignited interest in zombies again.

>>213410019
>Why do they praise it again?
I suppose because, back then, there was nothing else really like it? Kind of like why Star Wars was so popular. You have to remember how limited peoples options were back then, and most people only ever saw what was showing at their local cinema or on TV at home. VHS tapes were basically brand new, and expensive, technology when Dawn of the Dead was released too. Movies weren't "content" yet like today where you have endless options.

>>213410019
>better soundtrack
>better characters
>better story
>looks better
>wayyy more fun

It is unbelievable how people are turning on Romero's masterpiece like this.

>>213410019
>listening to RedditLetterMedia’s opinion on anything in the first place
Stop doing this

>>213412457
There is almost no cgi in dotd

>>213409910 (OP)
They were kids when it came out. The original is 1000 times better.

>>213410019
You're absolutely retarded

>>213411205
I literally don't remember this

>>213412780
Imbecile

>>213414164
>"The first 15, 20 minutes were terrific, but it sort of lost its reason for being. It was more of a video game. I'm not terrified of things running at me; it's like Space Invaders. There was nothing going on underneath."
t. George Romero
I actually agree with your ranking of his original 3

>>213414164
I can't believe how lame this post is. Fucking Disturbed? Are you serious?

>>213418710
they all died after starving, blood loss, and exposure at the end of the movie, moron. oooh wow, scary "zombies" you got there

>>213417738
Actual person with a brain

>>213418775
What are you even fucking talking about you fucking retard

>>213409972
To add to what >>213417153 said, Simon Pegg said that both he and Edgar Wright playing Resident Evil 2 during the production of Spaced is what directly led to the creation of Shaun of the Dead, and Alex Garland also directly credits Resident Evil for the inspiration for some of his writing in 28 Days Later. One thing he specifically mentions is writing the infected to run rather than the zombies that were typically slow shamblers in those days because of how panic-inducing he found the fast dogs in Resident Evil.

>>213416353
Even some of the zombies in the original Night of the Living Dead kind of half-jog.

>>213419180
Kinda unrelated to the thread but I don't even know how RE7 connected to the series. It just felt like an homage to the horror genre

i like them both. i like zombie movies in general
in fact i like zombslop so much i've watched every single episode of the walking dead franchise(including all it's spin-offs)

>>213419869
You're ridiculous. And you haven't watched Kingdom

>>213419772
RE7 is the most American(derogatory) entry in the franchise.

>>213420225
i've watched both seasons two times each

>>213409910 (OP)
the original is gay and boring so i'm sure reddit loves it

>>213418756
I know what you're saying. I get it. But it works for the movie. Maybe you have to not really be a music guy to get it.

>>213409910 (OP)
It's not as "good" but it's a lot of fun. It doesn't disrespect the original, it imitates the broad strokes but still does its own thing.
Overall, I think it's a matter of taste, not quality.
Also, the "hell is overflowing" pastor scene is based

>>213420614
>It's not as "good" but it's a lot of fun.
Let's quit it with this autistic distinction. It's just good because it's fun.

>>213409972
I'm 32 and love zombie movies and still never watched 28 days

>>213419772
>It just felt like an homage to the horror genre
That's what Resident Evil has been from the start.

>>213413657
That's not Morpheus lmao

>>213419869
Same though i dropped walking dead midway through war arc with negan. But i love zombie movies so much i really enjoyed House of the Dead the movie. Probably the lowest rated movie i like.

>>213414164
Yeah, forgot to mention the intro. Very kino

>>213418756
Dick cheese thobeitever

>>213417153
>Romero himself said that the popularity of Resident Evil (the PS1 video games) is what reignited interest in zombies again.
While that is true, it is worth noting that the film industry taking a chance on zombie films is directly tied to the 2002 film and its sequels. IN the film industry everyone thought the idea of an RE movie was daft, especially one with a 33 million dollar budget. But the film was a hit, and its sequel was a hit, and the third film was a hit, and the fourth film made 2x more than the third film. The rest is history.

There's always this strange effort by some people to downplay the impact the Resident Evil films had on the zombie genre from a business and economic and artistic standpoint. The RE film took the classic Romero zombie and made it scary/creepy again. Snarling instead of moaning was one key change.

>>213418529
Snyder's Dawn of the Dead actually has quite a bit of VFX. Anything involving crowds is VFX.

>>213420758
what did he mean by this

>>213409910 (OP)
I don't think there is much point in comparing the two aside from saying "they are both zombie movies". They are insanely different.
In fact the best thing Snyder's does is actively try to be completely different. Trying to do an actual remake would be a disaster.

>>213420880
So one scene...with the propane tank at the mall. All the disfigurements are practical, actors missing limbs etc

>>213419772
>It just felt like an homage to the horror genr

That's what RE was from the beginning; 70s-to-early-90s horror and action movies. The first three at very least have George Romero, John Carpenter, James Cameron, Clive Barker, and David Cronenberg all over them.

>>213421068
There's some Jurassic Park in there too, with all corporate espionage, lab setting, genetic engineering, and everyone constantly trying to steal samples from Umbrella. Umbrella itself is basically an Ingen/Weyland-Yutani mashup.

>>213420301
I thought it was pretty scary though, desu.

>>213421068
The RE1 intro is HEAVILY inspired by Monster Dog. You might argue that the foggy mansion surrounded by pissed off dogs came from that movie too. The ambient dog howling sounds you hear in outdoor areas were either sampled directly from the movie or came from the same library. You can hear them in the trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaudNInMoDE

>>213418621
I was a kid when it came out and I prefer the original though.

>>213409972
wrong in both accounts, it was resident evil

>>213422176
RE wasn't famous for fast zombies

>>213422197
idgaf about muh pacey zombies, re jump started the zomnbieslop

>>213409943
>the original Dawn of the Dead is a Dolemite style 1970s blaxploitation movie

Zoomers think this?
Btw, I love the original and it is superior, but the sort of remake is good too.

>>213411422
Imagine AI continuing that type of film all the way through.

>>213422390
>idgaf
Then don’t say wrong on all accounts next time you brain dead nigger
Also if people are going to be an autist about 28 Days Later because muh fast zombies then Resident Evil doesn’t count either because the T-Virus is also bioengineered and manmade and akshually those aren’t real zombies like Romero’s supernatural zombies