What is the best Alice adaptation?

>>213418688 (OP)
The one with Brandy and woopy goldberg

>>213418713
Based!

>>213418688 (OP)
Adorable and humorous!

>>213418688 (OP)
hot

>>213418688 (OP)
everyone always points to these movies as a reference to good quality animation. But that's kinda cheating right? The animators are just copying the background, there's no real animation being made by the animators themselves

>>213419488
there are many ways you could fuck it up, they did a pretty good job at converting it into animation, facial expression and such

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>>213418688 (OP)
bros?

>>213418688 (OP)
The porn parody with Sunny Lane.

>>213421255
>Sunny Lane

God-tier taste

its this thread huh...

>>213419488
rotoscope is close to cheating, but even that can be ok
this wasn't rotoscoped
using footage for reference is as old as the art is itself

>>213419488
>Using reference for movement and timing is cheating
Your a retard

Whats the difference between this shit the whore gook doing full motion cg for the valorant type game? Theyre both cringe af

>>213421498
sex appeal

>>213418713
That's Cinderella, and it was Brandy and Whitney Houston.

>>213421498
I miss when everyone on this website was white and nobody posted things like this

>>213421372
>>213419881
>>213419488
>>213418688 (OP)
my main take away is that in the black and white version they were too retarded to depict the door knob

>>213421616
She just filmed it as a reference for the animators

>>213421573
But Whoopi Goldberg was in an Alice in Wonderland movie.

>>213418688 (OP)

>>213418688 (OP)
Svankmajer

>>213421724
well now I feel like a retard.
ty anon. ty.

>>213418688 (OP)
It's definitely the sexiest

>>213421873
Haha, what? That's crazy

>>213418688 (OP)
The silent film version

>>213422158
This is a strong contender for the worst movie ever made, it started the plague of Disney live-action remakes.
I still think The Force Awakens, another Disney movie, is worse overall, but Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland is certainly not far behind it.

>>213422219
>let's make it dark and grotesque
Fuck you tim

>>213422219
I've always considered Burton a mediocre film maker, no idea why film gurus suck the guy off so much

>>213422279
he was very great for like 7 years

I used to work with a guy who was obsessed with Lewis Carroll stuff. When the office hired a woman named Alice, he lost it. She actually went out with him once right after she broke up with her boyfriend, but she shortly went back to her boyfriend and they got engaged. Guy freaked out and stalked them.

>>213422309
Nightmare Before Christmas is the only standout and 90% of that is Danny Elfman's score.
Edward Scissorhands is just ok, too surreal and absurd for me to get invested.
All his movies are like that.

pedophile thread

>>213422350
from peewee to ed wood or so he was very good, whether or not you have taste. he did not direct nightmare before christmas though.

>>213422350
For better or worse, Batman 89 heavily influenced the capeshit era that came later.

>>213422219
>>213422238
For me it's not even the aesthetic so much as the plot...in that there is a plot. Lewis Carroll's story is delightful nonsense with no real stakes, just a series of absurd sequences in a little girl's dream. The Burton movie tries to make it this epic fantasy where Alice actually has to put on armor, slay the Jabberwocky, and lead the revolution against the Red Queen.

>>213422219
>the plague of Disney live-action remakes
I agree they were a terrible idea in terms of art/quality. But they made $ at the box office so that's all the Mouse really cared about. Cinderella is the only one I think you can even justify making since the original animated version is pretty lightweight in terms of story and character. Plus the cast was stellar - Lily James, Cate Blanchett, Helena Bonham Carter. But don't get me started on Maleficent! The pitch meeting must have included something like "let's ruin our best villain by giving her a sympathetic back story". Garbage.

>>213422368
Projection

>>213422523
I like the colors, and I don't mean the diversity

>>213422740
The ball sequence is a total standout out, not just for plot (though it is that) but that set is great. So glad Bronaugh built a physical set and didn't just green screen the whole thing. That's one of many reasons I hated the Beauty and the Beast live action remake - I never for once felt like I was in an enchanted castle. Just a mostly empty soundstage with a few props for reference.

>>213422523
I feel like Jungle Book manages to justify its existence too with its efforts to make the wolf pack actually relevant and overall efforts to try and inject some of that Kipling energy that Walt had removed back in the 60s when he threw out Bill Peet's draft.

I really like the creepiness of the 1933 version

>>213422847
the screen caps you posted look really good. i thought it was from a "real" movie, like from the 60s or something, but then I zoomed in and saw picrel

>>213422523
>>213422847
I never gave it much attention, but was this their last real movie?

>>213422672
I mean, he's not wrong

>>213423067
>jewish character assassination
Shalom.

>>213423094
Have you read his letters?

>>213423120
I have. The quote from your image isn't in any of them. He had perfectly normal (for the time) friendly relationships with them. He was a children's book author, he liked hanging out and going for boat rides with them. You don't need to project what happened to you onto innocent men.

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>>213418713
>That ain't weed nigga
>Thas PCP
>ANGEL DUST

>>213418688 (OP)
cute boy

>>213423049
I avoided most of the live action remakes, but Cinderella I recommend for the reasons above >>213422523
>>213422847

>>213423158
i think it's safe to say he liked them young, but at the same time i don't think he was depraved enough to rape a child.
he's one of the good ones.

>>213423498
I'm not saying he raped anyone, loving little girls and admiring their naked form doesn't mean you have to do something to hurt them, that's your feminist brainwashing talking.

>>213422350
Zoomer… those aren’t even his best…

https://youtu.be/hAt0p4EPCmo

>>213418688 (OP)
Want your white world back huh? Cry more it's gone forever.

>>213423606
moron

>>213423746
least obvious falseflag

>>213418688 (OP)
forced animation

>>213423746
Huh?

Dreamchild

>>213423886
Is this the Jim Henson one?

>>213418688 (OP)
Spirited Away

>>213418688 (OP)

>>213424193
Yes.

>>213419488
Nah the 1988 version was the best use of stop-motion animation ever in film history.

>>213424383
>>213424356
Looks cool, I'll check it out tonight
>>213424326
Qrd?

>>213424326
Pure Kino.
How are Czechoslovakians so damn good at filmmaking? I don't understand it.

>>213418688 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLafk3imk4

>>213421255
does she still work as a prostitute in nevada?

>>213422158
She is so fucking hot bros. What is it about a woman growing like this that turns me on so much? I wish I could get hard to normal things.

That Attack of the 50 Foot Woman with Margot Robbie better be good.

>>213422350
Edward Scissorhands is just The Elephant Man for pussies.

>>213425166
edward scissorhands is the more lynchian film.

>>213425237
burton comedy =/= lynch comedy
edward scissorhands is a comedy

>>213421793
>>213424383
this. very fun movie

>>213425237
Cope

>>213418688 (OP)
The 1972 British version Alice's Adventures in Wonderland with Fiona Fullerton.

>>213418688 (OP)
the one with elizabeth debicki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ffLZ3fDPZo

>>213422158
I don’t even remember this scene.
I just remember a bunch of cgi vomit and Johnny depp talking down to us

>>213426131
you are a man of integrity just like me

>>213418688 (OP)
You posted it. I never saw the live action remake. Didn't they make more than one? Anyway, the original Disney animated version is all you need.

>>213426527
Disney is garbage and always has been. Stop being a pleb and expand your tastes.

>>213421793
>>213424383
Correct
https://youtu.be/haBpm6hUPmU?si=m6QahGTtidAYtiHv

>>213426587
Walt Disney was loved by all the children of the world until he made the controversial film "Nazi Supermen Are Our Superiors"

>>213421793
>>213424383
>>213425467
>>213426635

Love this one. One of the only surreal movies that really does feel like a dream.

>>213422523
What's with all the negroes?

>>213418688 (OP)
Simple as.

>>213418688 (OP)

>>213426789
it weas fashionable to have respectable niggas at court

>>213418688 (OP)
Jonathan Miller, 1966.

>>213424326
Obvious points about this film aside, this is a masterpiece. It's so beautiful. Hard to believe there are so few films that look this good.

>>213421255
dogshit

>>213419488
>there's no real animation being made by the animators themselves
Every professional artist uses references. The better you become at art, more you realize how your memory alone is not enough to capture all the tiny details of the real world. And animators realize a professional actor or a gymnast knows how to do much cooler looking body language than what a beer-bellied animator sitting on his chair could come up with.

Animators use multiple references at once. They have the live reel footage to use as reference for the motion, the way the clothes move, body language and facial expressions. Then they have the character sheet right next to them to make sure the character looks the same at all times even when its originally drawn and stylized by a some other artist. Finally they have their key drawings as constant reference for the drawings in the middle.
So while animator is drawing he's also simultaneously looking at the live reel of an actress dancing around in a dress, the character sheet of the animated character and both the drawing before and after the current one.

>>213418688 (OP)
Is she ACTING?

>>213427349
second this. it's the most gorgeous movie i've ever seen. still can't believe it was made in the late '60s in a european shithole

>>213422318
you worked with jervis tetch?

>>213418688 (OP)
Black Souls 2

>>213426789
Affirmative Action