Thread 213438864

>gets phased out irl
>kino turns to shit
Any other instances of real life impacting kino negatively?

Not being able to smoke inside.

>>213438886
fpbp

>>213438864 (OP)
Yeah notice how amazing this little sopranos scene is

https://youtu.be/TpwXxpAc70Y

Seems like an ode to the matrix.

>>213438886
What's the current alternative for a character to aura farm while they're just hanging around?

>>213438864 (OP)
The Matrix could have never been made without these lil niggas.

>>213439038
Using their smart phone. It's all people do in public anymore, moving or still.

>>213439108
But that's not cool, and the face barely moves, the essence of smoking a fag was the grimace.

>>213439108
I've seen Homeless Guys begging me for money while they're rocking the latest Samsung Galaxy (meanwhile my phone is over 10 yrs old).

>>213439038
Watch tiktok eat hot chip and lie

>>213439146
I can't think of anything cool. Its all that people do anymore.

>>213439154
>my phone is over 10 yrs old
based non-consoomer

>>213439154
When you're not paying for the landlord's new tesla a lot of money is left for stuff

>>213438864 (OP)
Architecture, clothing, car design...

When I was kid me and my friends had so much fun vandalizing payphones lol

My favourite was to put a big firecracker under the handset light it and run away.

>>213439208
>clothing
Has only gotten better, only fags and women complain

>>213438864 (OP)
I genuinely thought about installing a landline phone in my house again. Just so people could only phone me again when I'm at home. No messages, no nothing. I doubt that's even a possibility anymore. We're stuck.

>>213439239
We at least made hax0r boxes and tried to make free phone calls

>>213439262
>gets wiretapped effortlessly
>now Langley knows everything about him

>>213438864 (OP)
>be kid
>one pay phone at school
>have to call parents sometimes after school
>no change
>dial 1800-Collect
>will you accept the charges from (anon)
>make parents accept the charges
kek

>>213439317
I tried making a beigebox for phreaking but I didn't really have anyone overseas I could call or reason to try it out

>>213439318
That's a non arguement. Phones will know far less about you when you have a phone in your house then they will about you when you carry it around in your pocket all the time. Also, it's not about being knows, I doubt someone gives a shit about what I watch or do. I'd have far more privacy with a landline. The argument is about not feeling the pressure to be available all the time outside of the physical context you are in at that moment. Be it to algorhythms or to people.

>>213439393
>phreaking
Yeah that's it, I forgot the name. My friends and I tried to make all those boxes too. I don't think we ever got one working because we had to use scrap parts with no radio shack in town.

>>213439174
>go out vaca w/senpai wife in charge of navigation
>driving to next tourist trap through BFE
>lose signal so no directions
>no big deal pull out a map
>she didn't think to bring one and starts to worry
>use my big male brain intellect and use a compass to get us driving in the right direction until signal returns
Maps are still needed today. Could you imagine what most of the population would do if we had a significant solar flare like the one we got in 1800s?

>>213439518
>Could you imagine what most of the population would do if we had a significant solar flare
Real life kinema. One can only dream

>>213439518
I still carry my truckers road atlas in my vehicle just in case. The winter's can be pretty brutal here and it's always good to have redundant systems.

>>213439518
It's been a while since I travelled, but one of the things I always first did was go to the local tourist center and ask for a map. They were always free. Half the fun is exploring or interacting with people. I wonder if they still hand out paper maps for free or if that's a thing of the past.

Smartphones perhaps ruined a lot of drama and perhaps intrique irl.

>Blair Witch
>Shit we are lost
>No dude look I have google maps

>>213439384
It was more fun to try and condense your message into the 1.5 seconds they give you to say your name so nobody had to pay the charge.

>>213439174
Most truck stops in the U.S. still sell $25 road atlases. Bought in Idaho last year when phone died in the middle of nowhere.

>>213438864 (OP)
invention of the vape

>>213439717
Itsbobwehadababyitsaboy

>>213439654
Blair Witch is a terrible example. They'd just say that they had no signal and make it ambiguous whether it's just the woods or the witch doing it. Everyone filming themselves on their phones even though they're scared out of their mind also make more sense for tiktok and selfie-obsessed zoomers wanting to emulate their paranormal "investigation" e-celebs, until the moment things really do turn real for them and they drop their phone.

>>213439108
preferably on speaker phone in the middle of the store

>>213439728
Maybe in countries that are bigger it is more relevant. Or could be life saving. And in countries where everything is dense, maps aren't that important anymore. I'm just guessing.

>>213439154
If I was homeless a new phone with as good of a battery as possible would be the top of my priority. That shit is not only your lifeline in finding out which shelters are open any given night and your homeless buddies telling you they've scored a bag of free bagels or warning each other about assholes going around pouring water on people and shit like that, or filming evidence when some asshole does stuff like that, but it's also your one source of entertainment. Instead of lugging books around you read them on your phone. Instead of going to the cinema you watch movies and shows on your phone. Instead of jerking off to ladies in the park you jerk it to prettier ladies on your phone. It's the #1 tool of today's world.

This is how we dealt with being lost in the nineties. You better pray your car doesn't break down or you run out of gas.

>>213438864 (OP)
There are few things I hate more than text messages being shown on screen like pic related. Absolutely revolting.

>>213440060
what would be your preferable way

>>213440060
It's a tough question. How else would you do it? Communication has become less outward, les observable. Yes, I realise the contradiction with social media. But it kills a movie.

>>213440060
which way white man

>>213438864 (OP)
Cell phones in general have ruined horror movies. Unless you’re doing a period piece, there’s no more scenes of people going to the town library to look up old newspaper clippings of the story of the miners who died in a tragic accident that might be in some way related to all the recent unsolved pickaxe murders or whatever.

>>213440060
Better than all the boomers scenes where they're on the phone and don't say hello or goodbye, just infodump for the audience.

>>213440152
in Together one of them drop their phone in a puddle of water
in 28 years later the phone runs out of battery
you can still do a modern horror film and still have cell phones in it

>>213440152
>Cell phones in general have ruined horror movies.
I'd say they have ruined suspense, but not horror movies. The horror has moved from something visceral, something observable, to something that it is in your mind.

>>213440152
On the other hand, it's prime soil for spoiled kids raised on screens stumbling upon a location without signal and not knowing what the fuck to do because social media replaced real life experience and killed common sense. Helpless kino.

>>213440152
But that's not the fault of cellphones? Old local newspapers aren't easily accessible on phones! That's why people still go to libraries to research local history, or help with slowly digitising their collections. The writers CHOOSE to have characters find their info online instead of having them grumble at not finding anything on google and then going down to the library and finding everything they need with the help of a librarian who knows how to find everything relevant.

>>213440137
Prefer right. Left just looks so hokey.

>>213438864 (OP)
Shopping malls and Drive-In Movie Theaters.

>>213439069
kekked out loud

>>213440299
I just found out the other day that in an unpolluted night sky you can actually see the milky way. Crazy. I'm a city zoomer.

Do movies and shows still do the "keep the kidnapper on the line so we can trace him"? I think they stopped around the 2000s and even back then it was bullshit, calls have been automatically logged sinced like the 80s.

>>213440343
I think everyone already knows you're pretty much traceable down to the inch if you've a cellphone on you

>>213440388
Tell that to the Idaho Potato Slayer. Dumb motherfucker thought he was good when he turned his phone off before the murders.

>>213438886
based

>>213438886
can smoke inside at home
just no one wants to watch a movie about NEETs

>>213439069
laughed then cringed

>>213439635
>go to our instagram and download a 400x400 px map with 4 restaurants on it

>>213438864 (OP)
>Any other instances of real life impacting kino negatively?

this will be the end of everything

All movies should have to take place no later than the late 2000s when it was still technically possible for nobody in the story to have a smartphone.

>>213440567
I thought my ashtray home smelled awful but i was recently in another ashtray house with a cat and dog and holy fuck it smelled like a ammonia garbage truck.

the way one can open and close a flip phone can make or break a scene.

there's the nervous two handed open
there's the solemn two handed close

there's the vic mackey one hand alpha way to open and close a call

there's tony soprano mixing it all up..

i hate smartphones and what they did to us

>>213440676
I only smoke inside my home in the summer when I can have the windows open. Winter time I just go outside

>>213440788
DiCaprio did it really well in The Departed. Plus the sound effect of it opening and closing.

>>213440388
Is that why the cops always came to my house after I called 988?

>>213440791
Your house still stinks, btw.

>>213440388
The Long Island Serial Killer would actually call his victim's relatives and taunt them in busy areas where there was so much cell activity that it would be hard to trace.

>>213440634
>everything
Pertaining to cinema or..?

>>213440788
Just a few decades more and we'll have glasses or contact lenses for screens and have them controlled with hand gestures. Then we'll return to actors having different ways to use their hands when answering calls or sending messages. From the bombastic to the micro-movers.

>>213439518
Why is your wife a senpai?

>>213440788
I wanted one of those Matrix Reloaded phones so bad, which were actually available to purchase.

>>213439108
Smartphones have never been and never will be cool.

>>213440788
What about one that flips down when you click on a button. It was almost like a switchblade. But you held the switchblade to your ear, how hard is that?

>>213440958
That's outdated tech though

>>213439976
I was semi-homeless for 10 years in a major city and spent all day on my tablet with free wifi spots. It's amazing how people live you alone even if you're sitting at rhe same spot all day staring at your screen. I only got bothered by cops twice and one of those was because some kids started a fire nearby.

>>213440937
fuck really? Should I start using febreze or smth

>>213440958
>catches you

>>213440788
>>213441150
Also no one uses kino expressions when picking up anymore, you never hear "talk to me", it's always either "what's up" or "hey"
Things have been getting progressively uncooler since 2010 and I don't know who to blame.

>>213441275
>talk to me
>I'm listening
>Go

>>213441381
>Go
Kino

>>213440299
it's especially funny because lights like these don't actually make anything safer, it's unintuitive but they don't reduce rapes, muggings or any other kind of night crimes, same goes for lights on the streets and highways accidents don't go down at all when more lighting or brighter lights are installed they're literally fucking useless

>>213441270
>In "Johnny Mnemonic," the character Johnny has a base storage capacity of 80 gigabytes in his brain, which can be temporarily expanded to 160 gigabytes using a software upgrade. However, he is tasked with transporting 320 gigabytes of data, which strains his capacity and leads to physical and mental repercussions


Industrial espionage ain't what it used to be.

>>213441381
>speak

>>213440958
>>213441270
Part of how they caught the Long Island Serial Killer is he would carry his phone, his burner phone, and the victims phone on him at the same time. They traced it and all the phones pinged together. He started to tell his victims to not bring their phones with them and offering large sums of money for the night and some of his victims left their phones at home but others didn't.

>>213439038
closeup camera shot of hands typing on an iphone (NOT a poor people "smartphone") with ADR iOS sound effects to mimic the texting experience so the audience can directly relate to it

>>213438864 (OP)
Its ownly 20 years and they were everyweher. Poof its gone. Kindo went to shit after the great recession like everything else from literature to art to music to the internet as brown people fromthe third world dragged things down to their level of nothingness.

>>213438864 (OP)
My phone got fucked recently so I asked a kiosk vendor where the nearest payphone was and she asked me what a payphone was. I had no idea I was so old.

>>213441594
She didn't know what a payphone was because she's from when the best there was was the telegraph

>>213439518
>>213439611
You know there are offline maps that you can download and use without signal right? Boom-booms

>>213440060
>text messages being shown on screen
Everyone liked them during the BBC Sherlock air

>>213442111
It's about the tactile feel of the map in your hand you retard and actually have it when electricity fails. And not everyone has a printer lying around to print out big format maps. Zoom zoom.

>>213441235
Nothing helps with the stink that comes from smoking indoors except getting rid of wallpapers and scrubbing. Chemical jewery like those sprays only add another temporary layer of chemical stink on top of the smell.

>>213441234
It's especially true for coffee places. Look homeless or black with nothing in your hand? They'll want you out of there. Look like a scruffy hipster with a laptop and the cheapest coffee on the menu so it looks like you're just a struggling author working on your magnus opus? You can sit around for hours and hours, using the bathroom for free and everything.

>>213441520
>be in profession that's targeted by serial killers and rapists
>know there's one currently working the area because even though the police won't say anything it's all over the grapevine whenever they find another body
>guy asks you not to bring your phone with you
>you actually do it
Bring back brothels to keep these people safe.

>>213442111
>do this, getting a variety of map files online and sideloading them
>finally go to use it one day
>the app has deleted all of the files to "update them" but couldn't download new versions
I still haven't worked up the energy to research some simple trustworthy open source app that actually is offline and doesn't try to get you to buy maps and shit, and won't fuck around with the files when you least expect it.

>>213442895
To be fair they found four bodies at once, and then another six more.

>>213441235
>ayo febreze it nigga

>>213441594
>>213438864 (OP)
>payphones were often used by criminals as it provided quasi-anonymity (non-tapped line used by hundreds daily)
>nowadays we have so few left and they're so underutilized that using one makes you suspicious by default
There's a great amount of irony in this somewhere. Not to mention if the remaining payphones are just baits.

>>213443077
Does that really matter? I mean even I knew there was a killer dumping bodies of hookers there before the cops made it public because there was so much chatter among sex workers and true crime people etc. The hookers certainly should have known better after the gossip first started up.

>>213443213
Actually there are privately owned phone booths now in some places and they are popular where people like to use them for the novelty, especially kids

>>213440060
Bring me back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPkvKhU4tA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBV0yCVcRTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuiOAKYtrmY

>>213440060
I prefer it to the alternative of showing the phone screen with tiny text you have to be quick enough to read

The first matrix phone was cool I wish they made that. The second was not.

>>213438886
Nah fuck smokers. If you want lung cancer, great. Dont force it on everyone else with your disgusting bullshit.

>>213438886
I grew up with parents who smoked inside and I am not sad to see it phased out of society. But damn does cigarette smoke make for kinorific atmosphere in cinema.

>>213439239
I always whizzed on them as a lad.

The bulk of cars being homogeneous aerodynamic blobs while also shooting up in price has ruined film car variety. You use to be able do some easy character development based off what the person drove up in. Guy in a muscle car. Old farmer in rounded top truck from as few years ago vs a bit more modern 70s one (in a 70s film). etc etc.
Now? The 2010 version of a F150 isn't that different to a normal viewer than a 2020 version. You can't have a guy down on his luck roll up in a modern new car as they cost $$$$$$. Even car based films like 2F2 slop had to resort to over the top stickers etc and then reach back into the old days for cars to make it clear who is in what..
and another random issue is inflation has shit on the backpack of money sort of robbery film. Like No Country for Old men works being that suitcase is $$$$$$$. Now the same case would be why die for too little cash to even buy a used Honda?

>>213445603
The first three Fadt and Furious movies are kinos.

>>213440103
not having them at all unless its a close up on a phone with a single message

>>213441555
Why is A Dumb Retard sound effect necessary?

>>213441381
absolute kino shit

>>213442986
a pdf map

>>213440152
"hey google didn't find anything about no miners who died in a tragic accident"
"what did you expect, it is a shit advertising company, let's go to the library to check out old newspapers"

there, problem solved

>>213440137
>>213440060
on screen is fine for tv shows, it looks incredibly tacky in movies. showing the actual phones with the messages is a must of movies.

>>213439038
>aura farm
The alternative is to violently murder zoomer faggots like you

>>213445162
faggot

>>213446145
smartphones in movies look tacky in general

>>213446865
agreed

>>213446823
kys, I dont want to inhale poison on your behalf.

>>213439069
lmao

>>213439318
do you have a smartphone?

>>213440207
>The horror has moved from something visceral, something observable, to something that it is in your mind.
Nicely observed

>>213441485
>Johnny Mnemonic
Is this as awful as what its metascore makes it out to be

>>213447459
Nah, it's a fun flick, not at all awful

>>213447487
Nice, I'll watch it. Thanks

>>213443213
all criminals use VOIP pay as you go services and use open wifis at businesses and urban residence areas

its much simpler in a denser urban environment when people cant put a single password on their router
or go visit mcdonalds

>>213442986
Great point, Google drive and iCloud have fucked phones ability to reliably store. I like dumber devices for this reason. I keep an iPod in the car for audiobooks, it's ridiculously better than using my phone.

>>213447459
It's got a pshycic dolphin iirc and Ice-T. It's worth a watch.

>>213439262
Landlines are based. When you call a landline from another landline the fidelity is jarring, you realize what you gave up. My mom's signal at her house is fucked too, so to talk I text her and ask her to call me on the landline.

>>213439069
lmao

>>213441471
Floodlights on freeways are insanely nice to have once your night vision starts to get worse in your late 20s

>>213439038
>Fidget spinning in the corner

>>213448186
i laughed at this because its stupid enough to be very funny in contrast to like a dark lit bar and some detective spinning it as it goes

>>213448541
You put the mental image in my head of a grizzled private eye walking into a shitty bar and literally spinning in place like a tf2 sniper bot.

>>213447459
the first part with the build up to the llot is the best part of the movie and really cool. Once the main plot is set in motion the quality drops a bit but it's still fun

>>213439174
i keep laminated road maps of my local provinces in my car

>reboot of older kino gets set in present-day
>character has a podcast

>>213439038
autistically shaking like you have parkinsons with the ocassional phlegmy clearing of the throat

>>213447987
I listen to audiobooks while going to sleep so I have Smart Audiobook Player on my phone because of the snooze function. Being able to drift off to sleep and have the book stop playing in five or ten minute intervals based on when I stop moving is so good that I simply can't use any other player. The equaliser that lets you fiddle with the audio when it's a bad copy is also great. Even when I buy audible books on sale I use programs to convert the files entirely because their player sucks ass.

>>213448063
>I text her and ask her to call me on the landline.
Why not just call the landline??

>>213446008
why would I want a map of Washington DC

>>213450026
>and everyone of his friends, despite none of them having any unique or valuable insight

>>213439717
momthemoviesovercomepickusup

>>213445788
And those cars are dying off because of scam environmental regulations. One reason why Nissan will probably declare bankruptcy in a year or two

>>213440137
Left looks fucking dumb. Sherlock did it right with the more simple/understated font instead of trying to mimic real phone UI.

>>213440137
Just have them call. Texting should be like taking a dump, your character never does it

>>213447014
faggot lmao
this guys got baby lungs and low T

>>213452643
Unfortunately the law and majority of americans agree with me so slit your wrists faggot. Go outside like the dumb animal you are

>>213439408
I agree 100%. I hate feeling like I have to be available 24/7 to everyone.

>>213440162
only beta males say goodbye on the phone

>>213439069
kek

>>213452854
I just don't make myself available 24/7. What I hate is when I meet up with people and then they're on their fucking phone. My brothers drive me fucking nuts with that shit. You'll be in the middle of a conversation, they'll be the one talking, and then suddenly they feel their phone vibrate and their sentence will peter out as the phone comes out. All to answer some Tinder match or some shit like that, so if you say something they'll whine about how they can't "leave them hanging".

>>213438864 (OP)
I've used one a few years ago because it was free to call government numbers.

>>213440299
Just make the lights go out for some reason.

>>213441115
They were fucking amazing from ~2007-2010, for novelty reasons and because many of the bad habits only developed in the next decade.

>>213440103
just show the screen, what's so fucking hard

thank you for saving me in 2011, payphone. last time I used one.

>>213440060
i must have been born to be a boomer because i was in the early 20s or so when movies started doing this and i thought it was retarded. also any movie or show that talks about an app. or likes. or any of that modern BS. i dont know what it was that bothered me so much but it didnt feel like something that needed to be in media.

>>213439262
I just got a landline put back in. It's $50 a month but when the power goes out it still works. And you can get a cassette tape answering machine even if you wanted. But you can get a digital one more easily. I've got an old rotary phone hooked up right now but they phased out pulse service so I can only receive calls on it and not call out. It's cool that ancient technology is still so durable and dependable. With no power in the county a 5 lb phone will still rattle its bell and let you talk for hours in crystal clarity. I got mine through Century Link. I think they're national.
Landlines are making a comeback. I'm going to look into dialup internet too just to mess around with it.

>>213439408
Yeah, old phones don't even have hackable technology. They'd have to send a guy to your house and physically bug you and install cameras and motion sensors to get what they can pull from a smartphone.
All they can do remotely is wiretap you and I think that's way, way more trouble than just doing software shit and it only gets you the phone calls.

>>213438886
Boomers actually think killing yourself with smokes was cool

>>213439976
Bleak world. If I was homeless I'd live truly free like an old rail hobo. Living on the streets and still following social media and participating in the online world would be so hellish. The ONE silver lining in homelessness is absolute freedom from responsibility and society. The last thing I'd want would to be tied to a world I was no longer a part of in some superficial, spectator way, and then on this sad little pocket size screen. Always huddling next to some building with an outlet, shivering against its cold and artificial glow instead of sitting by a campfire down by the river with the other hobos, singing sea shanties and pitching in what you have to the mulligan stew.

>>213440103
Not having storylines involving texting.

>>213440137
I fucking hate that guy. I hate his face.

>>213438886
It's weird watching old movies and noticing the ashtrays. They're only noticeable now because they're gone.

>>213439895
That's just how you let people know you're black

>>213440791
I'm the opposite. Smoke outside when the weather's nice. Inside when it's cold out. Just smoke by the fireplace or a skylight. Or under the kitchen hood fan.

>>213439717
I had forgotten about this.

>>213441115
They were okay when you could get small ones. Now they're all either large or extra large. And the smallest one you can get is only small if it folds in half. Just ten years ago you could have little palm-sized iphones and shorter androids. Now they're all pretty much of similar dimensions. At least in the USA. You can still get phones with physical keyboards in other countries. None of them can be made to work where I live. I've checked. In fact, you have to buy a new phone like every four years at the very least. They simply become obsolete and at a certain point the carriers won't let you use them.
I fucking hate all that.
And I'd hate to be a videogame person with all the online rental membership shit they have to go through now. Everything sucks.

>>213447459
Yes. I went to see it opening weekend as a teenager and walked out disappointed. I didn't like it any better upon a rewatch a couple years ago either.
I like the genre, it's just a mess. And the Dolph Lundgren character was weird. Everyone just went to see it because of the laser garrotte thing from the commercials. Which was pretty cool, but not cool enough.
Those cyberpunk and evil AI/VR type movies were really hit or miss in the 90s. There were so many of them. We all watched them for the computer special effects because "graphics" were super important. The near end of the 16 bit era and Doom had come out and everyone was getting CD-Rom at home and the internet was new. Those were the good old days.
I wish I'd taken screenshots of being on BBS.

>>213450335
That would be TOO old fashioned. Even for mom apparently.

>>213456534
lets be fucking honest with how much worse the world is today in 2025 compared to 20 years ago in 2005 do you even fucking want to be here in 2045? who the fuck cares. smoking is fun in moderation but feels like dogshit if you do it all the time. NTA.

maybe one day in the far future like 2070 shit will finally be good for everyone and humanity will get its shit together, or maybe it wont and it will be worse but most of us wont be around for that anyway. and if we are we will look and feel like dogshit so there is no point. may as well enjoy yourself now today is all youre guaranteed.

>>213440788
>not using a flip phone with a battery you can actually pull out so the state can't track you and incarcerate you for typing "nigger" on an online Nigerian goat herding site

>>213438864 (OP)
Phone tech should have stopped here.

>>213438886
Smokers should be executed.

>>213457242
Then blow your brains out you cowardly piece of shit.

>>213441594
She probably realized you were Satan and wanted to end the conversation.

>>213440299
>fuck your old style atmospheric sodium lamps that makes everything, even freeways look warm and comfy. Have some glaring LED lights that make you feel like you're at the dentist

>>213439038
talking to himself and answering his own questions

>/tv/ is a bunch of millennial boomers that miss tech that died 20 years ago
quinoa

>>213460206
Why is liking a hopeful and fun aesthetic bad?

>>213439038
Nothing. Technology has made everything lame.

>>213439038
>Aura farm
What the retarded babbling non-english fuck.

>>213455852
Were you about to be raped?

>>213438864 (OP)
Phone Booth was a cracking little movie desu

>>213440788
not to mention
>crack the phone in half and throw it away

>>213459383
I had one of these to play with as a kid. Things became better once I got a Sega Master System. I was moving up in the world.

>>213439038
>aura farm
kys

>>213438864 (OP)
Ring cams being everywhere changes movies a lot. How are you going to do a kidnapping movie set in the present when it would be captured by a dozen cameras on a block?

>>213460297
>soulless vs. soul

>>213456667
Anon Hobos did all that. It's how we got Hobo Codes and societies. You're thinking of Bums. Just like Hobos of yore most homeless people expect to get back to a normal life of a home and a job once their luck improves.