Dune - /tv/ (#213443197) [Archived: 6 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:04:11 PM No.213443197
Harkonnen soldiers in Dune (2021) movie_humanMars.net
>Harkonnen are evil because.... THEY JUST ARE, ok?!

Harkonnen mine the spice, Atreides mine the spice, what makes one the bad guys?

I feel like there was something missing with Baron Harkonnen's character to make him actually evil and not just a rival noble.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:05:38 PM No.213443226
>>213443197 (OP)
There was a lot missing from those movies, like why is the spice so important to begin with.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:08:58 PM No.213443305
>>213443226
doesn't Paul's filmtape explain that in the first 5 minutes?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:10:58 PM No.213443352
>>213443197 (OP)
Did you miss when the Harkonnens kill a servant in every scene they're in?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:13:38 PM No.213443408
>>213443352
don't the atreides kill all their servants by leading them into a trap they're aware of?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:13:57 PM No.213443419
>>213443305
No, in the Lynch version they explain it a few times and have a Spacer's guild. In dunc they mention its psychoactive properties but nothing about using it for space travel
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:14:39 PM No.213443439
>>213443408
Refusing to go would be certain death. They gave the servants a chance.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:15:20 PM No.213443456
>>213443226
did you watch it half asleep?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:15:56 PM No.213443469
>>213443439
>Refusing to go would be certain death
how?
going was certain death.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:16:03 PM No.213443471
>>213443352
>May I suggest you get some res - ACK!!!
>I've lost them - ACK!!!
>My lord, I recommend you remain inside, there are - ACK!!!!
>His healing is not yet comple - ACK!!!
>Let me just stand here really quietly in my shower curtain that I have to wear and just hold this bowl of black bodypaint not involve mysel - ACK!!!
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:20:22 PM No.213443580
>>213443352
>>213443471

starting to see why anons favour the harkonnen
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:21:32 PM No.213443611
>>213443469
The emperor would've waged war on the Atreides for disobeying him, with all houses against them.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:23:01 PM No.213443651
>>213443469
>going was certain death
Certainly it wasn't, since lots of them survived and toppled the empire after.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:25:50 PM No.213443719
>>213443611
according to what? it's presented as an offer.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:28:00 PM No.213443777
>>213443226
imagine getting filtered by dunc
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:28:08 PM No.213443783
>>213443651
>lots of them survived
name three whose last names aren't atreides
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:29:35 PM No.213443819
>>213443719
What's it's presented as and what it is are two different things.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:30:36 PM No.213443842
>>213443783
I will if you name ten whose names are Atreides.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:31:49 PM No.213443870
>>213443783
There weren't three people named Atreides before the attack. For 10,000 year old dynasties the Atreides and the Harkonnens are a bit light on members.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:33:09 PM No.213443909
>>213443870
the bene gesserit made it that way on purpose
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:34:05 PM No.213443942
>>213443819
sounds like supposition
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:35:20 PM No.213443971
>>213443842
i will if you smile
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:37:37 PM No.213444044
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>Jessica was Harkonnen all along

What a twist!
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:44:21 PM No.213444213
>>213443226
It's summed up with two lines of dialogue and its worth is perfectly established, as well as how disgustingly rich the Harkonnens got off of it
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:44:27 PM No.213444214
>>213443909
>scheme behind the scenes to lower birth rates and take power
Frank Herbert was on to something...
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:46:36 PM No.213444274
ShishakliPoster
ShishakliPoster
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>>213443197 (OP)
Paul should have linked up with the bbq jihadi, she was cute
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:49:59 PM No.213444362
>>213444274
she was kind of nutty and a bit of a brat
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:52:45 PM No.213444428
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Who would you choose between Zendaya and Pugh?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:54:50 PM No.213444472
>>213444428
>mutt or a pig
honestly the miniseries had better choices
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:57:48 PM No.213444551
>>213443419
You don't understand how modern movies work or who's watching them.
Literally anyone could google the info you just posted or more likely they've already heard it through social media. It doesn't need to be exposited in the movie, it not being in the movie is not a valid criticism.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:00:35 AM No.213444628
>>213443419
>>213444551
but it's in the movie, in the very beginning after paul talks to jessica at brekkie
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:02:08 AM No.213444670
>>213443197 (OP)
The Bene Gesserit didn't like Vlad Harkonnen so they made sure he'd be the le evil one.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:03:01 AM No.213444693
>>213444472
Chani and her pepperoni nipples are hard to beat, plus I get Charles Xavier as a son
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:09:19 AM No.213444843
>>213444693
based
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:29:35 AM No.213445343
>>213443197 (OP)
Paul is a Harkonnening though
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:44:41 AM No.213445755
>>213443197 (OP)
>Fremen are every shade of brown
>Sardaukar are all white
>Harkonnens are literally bleached white
Being evil depends on how white you are. This is the subtle message the film is trying to convey.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:47:55 AM No.213445835
>>213443719
Your confusion about the matter explains exactly what's wrong with DUNC. It's a poor, threadbare adaptation of the book.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:17:04 AM No.213446599
>>213443719
It's the same way in the book.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:19:25 AM No.213446657
>>213444670
A Bene Gesserit literally fucked Baron Harkonnen and gave birth to Jessica.
How she managed to fuck a degenerate homosexual is never explained.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:21:26 AM No.213446715
>>213443197 (OP)
Who are you quoting, faggot? Literally nobody says that.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:41:28 AM No.213447277
>>213445835
>>213446599
le duality
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:46:30 AM No.213447414
>>213446657
It's in the books.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:52:31 AM No.213447557
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d8969c6df580da157ddf8c73c5d76601
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I wanna be evil Harkonnen so Lea Seydoux will visit me and call me a bad boy.
>Evil Harkonnens get Seydoux.
>Good Atreides get Zendaya and Pugh
Something is wrong with modern Hollywood.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:16:02 AM No.213448221
>>213446715
this. no one thinks the harkonnen are evil.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:17:59 AM No.213448284
>>213448221
Josh Brolin does.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:18:27 AM No.213448298
>>213447557
My favorite part is when it's explained that Feyd is a psychopathic. So now, she must get pregnant by him. Lmao.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:20:03 AM No.213448341
>>213448284
he ain't even got no damn agua
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:21:13 AM No.213448375
Harkonnen march
Harkonnen march
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>>213447557
>>213448298
>Harkonnen are a bunch of militaristic white people that live under a black sun

little on the nose there, Rami
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:28:59 AM No.213448580
why wasn't Dune in 3D?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:39:23 AM No.213448902
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>>213445755
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:54:54 AM No.213449419
Atreides mommy
Atreides mommy
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:20:31 AM No.213450190
>>213443226
>like why is the spice so important to begin with.

They literally tell you.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:31:20 AM No.213450520
1734309758112840
1734309758112840
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>>213447557
The Bene Gesserit bitch must leave
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:33:16 AM No.213450562
>>213450520
>The Incel Guild
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:34:40 AM No.213450599
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>>213450562
women use their wiles to steal men's essence and prevent men from achieving evolved forms to travel the stars
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:35:04 AM No.213450610
I cant fucking believe they skipped "Tears of Jamis" that was so important, it's not like the twink can't do a crying scene
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:39:16 AM No.213450716
file
file
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FACT: DUNC "Harkonnens" are made for retarded Murricans who couldn't understand they are the baddies if they were faithfully adapted from the book.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:41:48 AM No.213450787
>>213443352
Its a CULTURAL thing you wouldn't understand
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:52:42 AM No.213451081
childrendune_alia+%287%29-3176133565
childrendune_alia+%287%29-3176133565
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>>213444693
Big titty Alia from Children of Dune was kino.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:54:25 AM No.213451116
>>213443408
bravura
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:58:08 AM No.213451202
>>213448298
Feyd was supposed to be wed to an Atreides daughter, and the two of them would found a new imperial dynasty and their child would be the kwisatz haderach that the sisterhood controlled.
Jessica fucked it all up by having paul and giving the duke an heir, ensuring that all the plans were fucked and the kwisatz haderach would arrive a generation early and under no ones control but the consequences of oracular vision.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:00:46 AM No.213451266
>>213443197 (OP)
>what makes one the bad guys?
holy shit media literacy is in the toilet
the harkonnens are bad because the story is told from the perspective of an atreides. in reality both are evil because they're imperialists exploiting arrakis for their own ends. that's the entire fucking point of dune you retard
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:01:12 AM No.213451280
>>213446657
The BG are trained to be masters of seduction.
In the dogshit prequel books by Herber's son and KJA, the sister they send to try and seduce the baron was Gaius Helen Mohiam (the one who gives paul the gom jabbar test), and the baron gets upset, and rapes her while she controls her body chemistry to give him super-herpes.
And when he was younger he wasn't the big fat blob, he was a slim charming lad like Feyd was, he only got fat after becoming the baron and indulging in the decadence of the role.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:03:24 AM No.213451335
>>213443226
One of the first fucking scenes of the movie you literal chimpanzee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_TuEO6Mttw

>For the imperium, spice is used by the navigators of the Spacing Guild to find safe paths between the stars. Without spice, interstellar travel is impossible, making it, by far, the most valuable substance in the universe.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:08:40 AM No.213451460
>>213451266
True, but the Atreides are shown to have some sense of responsibility to the people under their rule. Like when Duke Leto rescues the spice mining crew from the sandworm. Baron Harkonnen would only have rescued the best looking twink and, after he'd had his fun, he'd throw him out a window like Peter Thiel does to his twinks.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:09:40 AM No.213451490
>>213443197 (OP)
the baron in the book is a gay pedophile. i'd assume they didn't mention that in the movie i didn't watch
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:12:27 AM No.213451547
>paul being stuck in a hot tent with his mom while on the best drugs in the world
my dick
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:13:19 AM No.213451572
>>213451460
In the books its an imbalance of power.
In the feudal system a baron is the lowest level of lord, while a duke is usually right under the king.
But while house Atreides wasn't overly wealthy, they commanded a lot of respect in the landsraad.
Meanwhile the baron had leveraged his more meager position to become economically very powerful and filthy rich, and holding Arrakis just made him even more powerful.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:20:05 AM No.213451761
>>213451572
>In the feudal system a baron is the lowest level of lord, while a duke is usually right under the king.
that's just crusader kings, anon
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:24:07 AM No.213451874
>>213443408

Leto Atriedes was trying to recruit the Fremen into the Atriedes ranks which is why they went to Arrakis in the first place and also because of >>213443439.

House Corrino plotted with the Harkonnens because the Atriedes had trained a few fighters that were on the level of the Sardauker. House Atriedes was probably going to train more which would have given the Atriedes a sizable fighting force if gone unchecked so the Corrinos had to move as fast as possible.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:25:01 AM No.213451901
>>213451572
Yep, as well as the Emperor getting paranoid about how well the Atreides troops were trained and that they might eventually be as good as the Sardaukar.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:25:08 AM No.213451908
>>213451874

Dude, just read the freaking book.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:26:04 AM No.213451930
>>213451460
>Atreides are shown to have some sense of responsibility
that's literally just Leto as a person. the house may have a reputation of keeping its word but that's just for landsraad politicking reasons, not some innate feature of the members of the house
it could also just be smoke they blow up their own asses about how righteous and honorable they are as they do exactly what the greedy and conniving harkonnens do
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:28:00 AM No.213451975
>>213451761
thats how it typically works, at least in the english system.
But its still a pretty clear hierarchy.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:29:28 AM No.213452023
>>213451901
He was more afraid of him recruiting the fremen to his cause, because the secret to the emperor's sardaukar is that they were people drafted from a harsh inhospitable prison planet, and dune was even worse than that.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:30:18 AM No.213452039
>>213451930
Up to a point, yes, but the Atreides also had the likes of Gurney and Duncan, who inspired loyalty in the troops. The Harkonnen soldiers weren't as motivated and would have lost without Sardaukar help.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:33:20 AM No.213452124
Pantara Hummingbird
Pantara Hummingbird
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>>213443197 (OP)
In the book they make it a bit more clear that the Atreides have a massive PR machine and that that's their actual strength, Leto during a scene where he's exhausted starts talking about this a bit to Paul because he's too tired to put the front up anymore.

The difference between the Atreides and the Harkonnen is not their goals or even their stratagems--that's just Kanly, it's an artform in the Empire to fuck over your rivals in insanely cruel and showy ways, the Atreides have assassins and spies every bit as vicious as the Harkonnen--the difference is that the Atreides have personal self control, and hte Harkonnens don't.

When the Bene Gesserit are talking about how some "people" are basically animals ruled by their hungers, the Harkonnen are supposed to exemplify this. Vladimir is always hungry, always fucking little boys, always drinking always being a creepy sick fuck, even when it avails him nothing. DeVries is the same way, so is Feyd and Raban, they're fucking retarded hedonists whereas the Atreides can think about things beyond satisfying their immediate desire for vindication or satisfaction, they can defer gratification for their own advantage.

This is not merely presented as a practical advantage, but as a moral one--the actual moral distinction between the Atreides and the Harkonnen is that the Harkonnen are degenerates, and thus the only ends they turn their abilities to are idiotic animal ones.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:38:06 AM No.213452249
>>213451930
>that's literally just Leto as a person
No, he was instilled with it from his father, the old duke. The man who went out to fight a bull knowing full well the harkonnen had fucked with it and he was probably going to die. Leto has the bull's head stuffed and hangs it opposite the portrait of his father, which pisses off Jessica because she knows that same bravura is going to be his undoing.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:41:30 AM No.213452352
>>213451761
That's true in the real world also--or at least it was, these days titles don't mean anything because the system of peerage isn't really in effect anywhere.

In the context of Dune however, feudalism is in very full effect, but these titles are ancient and hereditary, they're not like offices--the Harkonnens don't become Dukes justt because they conquered the Atreides, for example. It has been thousands of years, meaning that the actual titles don't really correspond to what the House controls anymore, as also seen in the fact that the Atreides are still a Ducal family even though they move from Caladan to Arrakis, it's just a tag showing that their origins were as a higher ranking nobility.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:41:45 AM No.213452360
>>213452124
>Vladimir is always hungry,
It always makes me laugh that he's such a fat cunt that he has the sci-fi version of a mobility scooter.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:52:25 AM No.213452645
>>213452352
Further expanded example: If you look at the British Peerage, there are Dukes, Counts, Barons, Marquises etc., but there are also Earls.

An Earl was a pre-Norman ranking that descended from the Jarls. So even though an Earl might not be as high as some of the other peerage, being an Earl means that your family predates the Norman invasion, it as an extra and intangible dignity to it that even a Duke lacks. You run into stuff like this all the time in studying aristocracies, because within their own internal circles they have these huge histories full of whose family took which side in which war and who is descended from whom (or NOT descended from whom) all of which add or remove status situationally.

In the case of Dune, Xavier Harkonnen was essentially framed for betraying humanity by an Atreides, which permanently tarnished the reputation of the House, and led to Abulurd Harkonnen (who found out about this) seething and feuding with the Atreides, who then framed him for treachery and shamed the Harkonnens still further. This resulted in the 10,000 year Harkonnen-Atreides Vendetta which ultimately resulted in the events of Dune. This kind of thing actually happened a lot in feudal societies. "Oh, you had my Grandfather 10x generations ago flogged for cowardice at Manzikert, so I'm going to leave you and 20,000 knights to be raped to death by Turks LMAAAAAAAAO" and it's part of the reason why feudal societies were such a pain in the ass to manage even if the nobility was highly competent, as in Germany or Spain, because they just couldn't let shit go.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:04:51 AM No.213452972
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>>213452645
>In the case of Dune, Xavier Harkonnen was essentially framed for betraying humanity by an Atreides, which permanently tarnished the reputation of the House, and led to Abulurd Harkonnen (who found out about this) seething and feuding with the Atreides, who then framed him for treachery and shamed the Harkonnens still further. This resulted in the 10,000 year Harkonnen-Atreides Vendetta which ultimately resulted in the events of Dune.
those fucking books aren't cannon and there is no reason anyone should ever read them.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:13:24 AM No.213453193
>>213447557
does their offspring actually do anything? I don't remember it from the book
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:15:26 AM No.213453241
>>213450716
Frank Herbert was an American. Cope harder
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:22:48 AM No.213453428
>>213444428
This shit is always hilarious to me. He cannot look intimidating for the life of him.
He looks so stupid.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:39:55 AM No.213453844
>>213444044
it really didn't hit the way they tought it would lmao
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:16:18 AM No.213454728
>>213444044
>>213453844
stars wars stole the twist with luke im ur dad
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:23:17 AM No.213454918
>>213445755
and it's true
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:29:51 AM No.213456351
>>213443226
It's space cocaine that gives you superpowers...just like real cocaine.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:31:56 AM No.213456397
>>213452972
I think B. Herbert did an okay job, and I like some of the extended canon.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:34:31 AM No.213456429
>>213450716
You're fucking retarded. The film Harkonnens are MORE sympathetic than the book Harkonnens. Feyd in particular is actually depicted as a sort of honorable warrior who respects his enemies, from the slave he fights in the arena to Paul at the end. They dumbed it down for Americans by making it MORE naunced?

Retard.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:58:19 AM No.213456830
Dune_Liet-Kynes
Dune_Liet-Kynes
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>>213456397
>I think B. Herbert did an okay job, and I like some of the extended canon.

Remove yourself.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:00:48 AM No.213456867
If Denis doesn't include the training dummy sequence he is a faggot
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:17:23 AM No.213457099
>>213452023
There was also the fact that they were gradually becoming paper tigers due to the luxury they got after being recruited
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:21:02 AM No.213457158
>>213444044
>Paul finds out the same night he and his mother have too flee Arrakeen
>Villeneuve waits until halfway into the second movie to drop this nuke
Why?
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:22:44 AM No.213457184
>>213456397
Bryan Herbert and Christopher Tolkien can both go fuck themselves desu
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:42:11 AM No.213457539
>>213452124
Itโ€™s reflected quite well in their overall plans.
The Baron might think heโ€™s a master ruseman, but ultimately his plans completely fuck himself because heโ€™s a bankrupted pariah at the mercy of the emperor, then made it worse when he accidentally put himself on his shit list too
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:46:53 AM No.213457627
When does Paul turn into a worm?
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:56:07 AM No.213457778
>>213457627
He doesnโ€™t.
Leto is the one who does some science to his body so now itโ€™s also a worm body
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:14:20 AM No.213458062
>>213457627
in book 3 near the end pauls son leto is a human with biological worm armor then in book 4 he's a full blown worm
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:55:36 AM No.213458651
>>213451202
I mean the plan was going to fail anyway. The problem is that BJ though they could control a being with supreme precognition ability. They turned to genetic engineering because all of their previous attempt at creating the messiah failed.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 11:25:21 AM No.213459686
>>213452645
What can I read to learn about stuff like this?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:15:28 PM No.213460235
>>213456397
bases
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:29:48 PM No.213460399
>>213451266
Midwit take. The Harkonnens objectively are more brutal and stupid than the Atreides. There are degrees to how bad imperialism can be to the native population.
Imperialism is done cleaner and more effectively if you're not barbaric about it. If you occupy a region with a valuable resource you can get the local population to collect it for you, you can get the local population to police themselves, you can even use the local population to recruit an army. You can even over time convince the population that you're there for their benefit and integrate some of them into your culture. It's much less expensive this way and it's how the largest empires in real life work and how tiny occupation forces controlled millions in the colonial age.
Atreides wanted natives living normally in their capital city even. Harkonnens blasted anyone that even looked at them funny. One is much worse than the other.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:51:56 PM No.213460705
>>213457158
Probably because the sexual tension was too high, and if they revealed Jessica was a Harkonnen at that point Paul would try to hatefuck her
Replies: >>213462432
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:05:14 PM No.213460894
>>213452249
>The man who went out to fight a bull knowing full well the harkonnen had fucked with it and he was probably going to die.
Ffs, were ancient Atreides fucking retarded as well?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:08:18 PM No.213460936
>>213456429
I don't disagree but Feyd wasn't that much of a sneering bad guy in the books. He doesn't kill his servants just for fun, that's what Baron did to teach him a lesson.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:10:43 PM No.213460963
>>213451266
Shove your media literacy tripe up your tranny ass, kike.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:15:55 PM No.213461043
>>213451280
>and the baron gets upset, and rapes her
Upset for what, that he can never feel attraction to a woman again after the witch leaves and must exist forever as a degenerate faggot?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:17:09 PM No.213461066
>>213443197 (OP)
Finnish people are evil
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:19:41 PM No.213461094
I wish Jessica was my mom
That is all
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:21:24 PM No.213461118
>>213457627
He doesn't, it's explained in the books he's too much of a pussy to go through with the metamorphosis. Leto II mogs Paul in all regards but the movies will not do him any justice
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:21:43 PM No.213461123
>>213451335
Okay but HOW? Do they sniff it like cocaine or put it up their asses when they're in space?
Replies: >>213461133
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:22:25 PM No.213461133
>>213461123
Spice tea, spice cakes, spice suppositories
Replies: >>213461170
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:23:25 PM No.213461146
>The Baron is a fat fuck and the whole family loves bloodsports
>They use underhanded tactics to kill duke Leto
They did tone down the baron's homosexuality quite a bit though.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:25:31 PM No.213461170
>>213461133
>spice suppositories
So they put it up their ass. Would have been good to see that on film.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:26:20 PM No.213461175
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>>213461094
why?
Replies: >>213461214
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:28:31 PM No.213461205
Harkonnen gf
Harkonnen gf
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Honestly, the Harkonnen were the coolest part of the films
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:29:15 PM No.213461214
>>213461175
Mommy!
Replies: >>213461230
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:30:05 PM No.213461230
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>>213461214
>*puts your hand in her box*
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:38:25 PM No.213461335
>>213450716
>street shitting thirdie comes to /tv/ to talk about exclusively American media while seething non-stop about Americans
fucking l o l
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:56:20 PM No.213462432
>>213460705
Weirdo
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:01:32 PM No.213462540
>>213451335
Is that the only time that the spacers guild is mentioned?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:05:38 PM No.213462629
>>213451490
in the movie he's just fat, bald, ugly, nasty and mean. a no-fun-allowed version of jabba the hutt.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:36:44 PM No.213463287
>>213444428
this cast is sadly saucless. The twin peaks guy had actual screen presence.
Replies: >>213464969
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:37:45 PM No.213463309
>>213445755
i mean all the white people rule over the brown savages
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:39:38 PM No.213463344
are there any bockbusters where the war between two armies is nuanced? It's always one side is eating babies
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:40:23 PM No.213463363
Mmmmmm Lady Jessica.... *drool*
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:49:11 PM No.213463547
this is an interesting fan edit.
https://fanedit.org/dune-the-hybrid-cut/

im sure as AI gets better we'll get better hybrids.

i wouldnt mind seeing the chick from candy man in the whole thing. Florence Pugh sucks

or if there was a way to put the lynch still suit designs on the new cast or at least partially, i hate those seat belt connected crotch pieces.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:52:24 PM No.213463600
>>213444551
Iโ€™ve never read such pathetic zoomer brain rot cope. Should we start putting QR codes in the corner of movies so you retards can actively google anything thatโ€™s not related to minecraft or nigger culture?
Replies: >>213464856
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:13:38 PM No.213464050
>>213463547
how can I download this? is there a magnet link?
Replies: >>213464171
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:19:48 PM No.213464171
>>213464050
i wish it was that easy

you have to send the person who made it a req on that site. then they send you a mega link

theres a lot of good ones on there tho.

ive gotten like 5 or 6 of them so far
Replies: >>213464826
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:21:55 PM No.213464214
>>213443197 (OP)
He's fat
He's a nonce and a faggot
He can't stop his fat ass from snacking
And he is either a ginger or a bald fuck (depends if you are a booknigger or a flicknigger)
MGPMS
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:48:20 PM No.213464826
>>213464171
thanks, which other ones do you recommend?
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:50:12 PM No.213464856
>>213463600
Kek.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:52:09 PM No.213464900
Just a reminder that Herbert was a huge gooner and his fetish was bodyswapping and genetic engineering so the other books are mixture of Cronenbergian horror and baron becoming a 16 year old girl.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 4:55:51 PM No.213464969
>>213463287
Nothing to do with being "woke" but making Dr Kyns a woman.. regardless of color.. that character lost all importance, i hear Dr Kyns and I automatically think of Max von Syndow and that commanding presence he just has
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:01:56 PM No.213465084
>>213463547
Even worse they gave her alot of Paul's lines in Dunc. Because celebrity cast.. this celebrity cast is such a joke.. Christopher walk as the Emperor? Why? he's supposed to look like Duke leto just a bit older because spice
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:12:11 PM No.213465264
>>213464826
https://fanedit.org/thing-from-1951-the/
https://fanedit.org/prey-the-implicit-cut/
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:15:11 PM No.213466761
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>>213444428
They are both hot but I prefer Zendaya 'cause she knew how to kill people
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:23:20 PM No.213466953
>>213443226
Biggest issue was lack of explanation/clarity with shields/swords vs guns.
>shields stop fast things, let slow things pass through
>all sword fights everyone is fighting full speed anyway and people still die
>dart guns can get through shields (why not give everyone poison dart guns?)
>fremen don't use shields (never shown why?)
>ships have shields but bombs just go through anyway
>ornithopters have shields but missiles go through anyway (missiles are pretty fast why didn't the shield stop them?)
>never established why lasers can't be used on shields
>assuming the laser + shield combo = nuke as in books seems a bit risky to be blasting lasers around a huge battlefield with thousands of people (not one shield was even tickled by a laser the whole time?)
>shield + laser = nuke combo seems OP af because all you need is one person willing/forced to die as a suicide bomber to wipe out enemy
>why not just use those laser rifles from part 2 with everyone?
>why not just laser the harvesters from the beginning?

Way too much turn your brain off. Good movies, don't get me wrong, and excellent aesthetics, but damn they fumbled this particular point.
Replies: >>213467249
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:31:30 PM No.213467156
>>213443226
to season dey food
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:32:27 PM No.213467190
>>213466761
>spaceships but no guns
>not even cool as shit omniblades or something
lmao, this shit looks like some circa 2009 cod:mw shit
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:32:44 PM No.213467199
>>213444428
zendaya is cuter
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:34:48 PM No.213467249
>>213466953
>excellent aesthetics
>it's a brown smudge
>BRRRRRM soundtrack