Thread 213454400

>It's been a rough few weeks, Murray. Ever since I . . . killed those three Wall Street guys.
>Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline.
>There is no punchline. It's not a joke.
>You're serious, aren't you? You're telling us you killed those three young men on the subway?
>Mhmm.
>And why should we believe you?
>I've got nothing left to lose. Nothing can hurt me anymore. My life is nothin' but a comedy.
>Well, let me get this straight. You think that killing those guys is funny?
>I do. And I'm tired of pretending it's not. Comedy is subjective, Murray. Isn't that that they say? All of you, the system that knows so much—you decide what's right or wrong, the same way that you decide what's funny or not.
>O-okay, I think . . . I—am I understanding you . . . did this to start a movement? To become uh, a symbol?
>Come on, Mur-ray. Do I look like the kind of clown that could start a movement? I killed those guys because they were awful. Everybody is awful these days. It's enough to make anyone crazy.

>>213454400 (OP)
If Murray simply raped Arthur right then and there he would have lived.

This scene and the first Joker overall was such high kino. So happy I actually went and saw it in theaters. Best acting of Phoenix's career

>>213454507
When you think about it, it is pretty funny.

I like the realism here. Even tho he has a point, he just kinda comes across as a faggy rambling retard like pretty much every violent incel irl. Even the unabombers shit was pretty much "I CANT BREED!" even though his IQ was like 160.

>>213454507
Yikes ur media literacy is awful if thats really how you feel.
Probably a capeshit fag..

>>213454541
I wish I saw this without tv spoiling me. but it was still so kino in theater

also I hate how dumbass normalfags always assume people that get killed are heckin wholesome chungus. well then why did someone want to kill them so bad

>>213454507
they had to stop the clownpill

or else society would look like this

>>213454611
>Even tho he has a point
The streets being patroled by literal gun toting madmen is not my idea of the land of the free.

>>213454611
I think the only part of the monologue that felt cringe/rambling was the werewolf part. I didn't like it at first but it fits the character imo. if it didn't have the werewolf part it'd feel too perfect and clean

>**HUFF**

>**HUFF**

>>213454469
Send in the guuuuuuards

>>213454826
NO DONT SAY IT ARTHUR DONT SA-

>>213454541
this palpable incel rage is why jackie going up his chute felt so bad man

>>213454541
>acting

>>213454507
Chuds BTFO

>>213454672
still thinking about the word chungus? you have been mind broken by the internet for probably more than 10 years. thats fucking hilarious. i can only imagine how many psyop fomo shit you unironically got caught up in over the years

I'm not sure if OP just quoted the original script

>>213455757
>with Trump 2024 and Vance 2028 they lost

>>213455825
>uhhh did you use a word??
ok
duly noted

>>213455857
You're not sure?

>>213454649
What's the media literate interpretation of Joker 2?

>>213454507
>>213454541
>>213454507
You guys are fucking stupid beyond help. Are we still in 2019? No, it's been made clear that Arthur Fleck was never an allegory for goy jews in the 21st century but a Holocaust/plight-of-the-jew movie about a quirky little Jew being tortured by white gentile society. Both Phoenix and Phillips are Jews and Arthur Fleck is the most stereotypical "Jew trying to appear Anglo and fit in" name possible. He's a sick Jew with a victim complex. His life was not that horrible. He had a job and a house, for fuck's sake, which in that time and his class of people, is a fucking luxury. He also had self-imposed problems. Why did he kill Randall for fucking up and getting fired on his own? He deserved the ass rape for killing an innocent man just because he looked out for his own ass and didn't cover for you.

>>213455825
>>213459326
(yous)

>>213454400 (OP)
I never sympathized with Arthur despite a lot of similarities but I don't smoke and hate smokers and thus can't relate to him also I would've never have fallen for some negress single mother no matter how desperate I got.

>>213454507
people weren't empathizing with how arthur fleck felt. all arthur wanted was a family and someone to care about him, he never wanted to be the joker, but he temporarily embraced it because for once people actually gave a fuck about him. because arthur is at his core a good man he rejected the joker and it was you the audience that metaphorically raped him for it. when arthur needed your empathy the most you fucked him in the ass

>>213459432
Nobody, not even back in 2019, cared about the character of "Arthur Fleck" and they just viewed him as a mirror of their own selves and aligned him with the classic comic book Joker and not this weird Joaquin Phoenix therapy session of a character. Joaquin was just playing himself and it was a pathetic display.

>>213459521
yeah, that's the point. that's why they got joker 2 because they didn't understand the first film

>>213459432
This might be the gayest and most off-base interpretation of anything in history.

>>213459536
Lol, you're so fucking dense dude. The sequel doesn't matter and the people who just appropriated the character won't stop appropriating him no matter how much Phillips tanks his career just to get back at them. They will continue to appropriate the Joker outfit and the whole schtick they derived from the first film because it was never about the movie or its central character. It was a movement/internet meme solely on its own two legs. Nobody watched the sequel anyway given its BO and they already forgot it exists, if they did.

>>213459552
no, you're a huge faggot though and wanted to live out your gay little revenge fantasies through the joker. if you identified at all with the joker you're an irredeemable faggot. my interpretation is the correct one, it's not hard to see

>>213454400 (OP)
>those upper class white yuppie bankers in business suits were awful, murray
>they called it the "knockout game"

I love this image (from a leaked early screener).

>>213459583
>80's New York
>oh man those damn yuppies those are the guys making life horrible, not naggers or spics
>that is why my life is so horrible, Murray, my heckin mental health and heckin white people!

>>213454799
That's what you have today

>>213459563
the character wasn't appropriated you delusional faggot. arthur only cared about the joker because other people cared about the joker. how can you not see this, zoomer low iq? it's very clear what arthur wants from his fantasies in the beginning and it's not the fucking joker
>IT WAS A MOVEMENT
you're so gay, kid

the film was about a mentally ill man getting exploited by society and when he refused you raped him in the ass. you fucked arthur fleck, faggot

>>213456442
Married into that opinion

>>213454507
I don’t understand why the director felt the need to do this. The entire point of the first movie was that extremists are made by America being a psychopathic shithole. The extremists saw it and said “yeah he’s just like me fr fr, I have mental health problems and would be normal if America wasn’t a psychopathic shithole.” Then he pulled a surprised pikachu and got upset. WTF did he think his first movie was about? Who did he expect it to resonate with?

>>213459578
>no, you're a huge faggot
I've never seen a larger faggot and more pseudointellectual retard than you. Embarrassing frankly.

>>213459630
you didn't understand the film

>>213459606
Yes? Who brought them over in the first place?

>>213459617
Just say you're some 18 year old from X/Tik Tok and were in elementary when the first film came out.
>>213459630
Because he's a Jew and right wing white goyim incels (the Jews' most despised enemy) appropriated his movie, which is clearly a Holocaust Jew allegory. Talk about both sides being dense as shit.

>>213459432
It's a retarded premise. You don't go back to being a "good man" after the apotheosis he completed at the end of Joker, when he's genuinely smiling for the first time to the rioting masses. It just doesn't happen.

>>213459432
The theme of Arthur being used by the protestors who had their own agenda was already well established in the first movie. This just reinforces to me how redundant the sequel is, since it doesn't do anything but go over the first movie again.

>>213454611
It was so well done that it made people think it was possible to make real movies out of capeshit for a few months.
Idk why the director got upset that the people he was depicting agreed with his depiction. I guess he just wanted non-extremists to see it and go “wow we need socialized well funded mental health care”. Instead extremists saw it and went “yeah that’s why I’m like this, you nailed it, (also genocide now rah rah rah)”.

>>213459640
you're a redditor and fooling no one. the fact that you can't figure out what the film was actually about genuinely means you're low iq. the film spells it out for you, then todd phillips has to beat you over the head with it in the second film because you didn't get it

>>213459646
Jews

>>213459666
Wow, you really are gay, stupid and a huge narcissist to boot.

>>213459643
If everyone including people of reasonable intelligence has the same interpretation of a film and it’s not the director’s/writer’s, the writer and director are bad at their jobs.

Lol, Todd Phillips made a 200 million career-ruining disaster just to piss off a very small internet community that had already moved on from meming the film by 2021, let alone 2024. It was 5 years too late. What a fucking loser. He ruined his life and career just because he was terminally online and obsessively going through fringe internet forums to get mad at.

>>213459657
The talk show host is Jewish wtf are you on about

>>213459703
No, not in the fiction of the movie, in reality De Niro is a goy and the star and writer/director are Jews and this movie is clearly about how Jews were shat on in WASP gentile society.

>>213459702
He killed the last bit of Lady Gaga's relevance in the public consciousness. I couldn't thank him, more personally.

>>213459665
>I guess he just wanted non-extremists to see it and go “wow we need socialized well funded mental health care”.
I.e. he wanted the normies to realize we need free pills shoved down our throat every day? If that's his intent he should've demonstrated that as a solution at the end of the movie, normies are too stupid to understand a problem if a solution isn't given to them.

>>213459657
>DA JOOZ
you're a such a faggot, kid

>>213459658
nope, arthur allows himself to be caught after getting freed, admitting that he knows he was the bad guy. it had to be spelled out in the second film unfortunately

>>213459660
apparently not because shit head zoomer queefs in this thread didn't get it

>>213459727
Sadly that's not true. She just had a gigantic hit with Bruno Mars and her new album sold pretty well. She bounced back just fine. It's Phoenix and Phillips who are fucked. They're blacklisted. Phoenix may bounce back but Phillips is definitely over.

>>213459665
>Idk why the director got upset that the people he was depicting agreed with his depiction.

This is called "the David Chase" and it's like "the George Lucas" (i.e. "I was originally planning a 12, no, a 36, no, a 45 volume story").
Usaean industry/spectacle tried it in the 80s with acts such as thrash metal or punk bands who had agressive music and (nuclear) war imagery, claiming to condemn war but ending up feeling as if they glorified it, same with Rambo, Stallone is obviously a hardcore system pawn/rightwinger and the first movie was all about Rambo complaining that they didn't let him kill enough, that he didn't fullfil hos potential as a proto-cyborg killing machine.

>>213459696
most of the world is brown and below 80 iq. people are butthurt they didn't get their revenge society. everyone thinks they are the star of their own show and they fantasized living vicariously through the joker

very gay

>>213459744
Yes, it's the Jews. Did I stutter?

>>213459764
>>213459744
This is why I'm resigned to the Jews genociding the white race. Ass-licking shabbos like you are the most despicable people on the planet. No one likes you. Jews laugh at you until they kill you once you're useless, all the other races see you for what you are.

>>213459760
>She just had a gigantic hit with Bruno Mars and her new album sold pretty well
And that's the first time I hear of this, which is all I want, to actually be able to not know what's going on with her career.

>>213459784
I'd say having a song that got a billion views on Youtube in 5 months is doing pretty well. Even so, why do you hate Gaga? She's the last person responsible for that abomination of a "film". Phoenix and Phillips were and they paid the price with their careers.

>>213459781
ok ahmed

>>213459800
>Even so, why do you hate Gaga?
I don't, just don't want her in the news all the time.

>>213459810
>haha okay mohammed
>*jew cum pours out of mouth as tears well up in the shabbos' eyes, realizing its putrid existence*

>>213459769
>>213459781
you're fucking stupid and ruin every board you go to

>I'M SUCH A MENTALLY ILL ZOOMER DOOMER PEE PEE POOMER I RELATE SOOOO MUCH TO ARTHUR
faggiest generation ever

>>213459846
>>213459858
>DON'T SAY BAD FEEL DON'T SAY WRONGTHINK LET ME CONSUME IN PEACE PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE I DONT WANT TO LOOK AT REALITY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP

>Knock knock
>Who's there?
>It's the police ma'am, your son's been raped by Arkham guards. He's buck broken

>>213459846
Change "board" to "country" and you're describing the jews.

>>213459902
based

Why were (((they))) so mad when no incel shot up any joker cinema viewings?

>>213459432
>>213459432
That only works if Arthur doesn’t spend the beginning of 2 being a miserable bastard. He should have been riding that high of a new persona and be undone by it instead of Gaga egging it on. It diminished that absurd joy he gets at the end, and just makes it a finger wagging session of a movie for us caring about his plight and horrid surroundings and indifference.

>>213460008
i had really bad diarrhea that night and they thought i was fake calling in sick

>>213454507
>murders people
>gets jailed
Just don't kill people, it's that simple
>>213459563
The Joker is a violent psycho.
>>213459630
>he dindu nuffin

>>213459521
>Nobody, not even back in 2019, cared about the character of "Arthur Fleck"
Joker 2 in a nutshell.
>>213459536
Redditors will lose their mind reading this.

>>213460183
Supervillains are supposed to bust out of jail and continue being scoundrels, not get brutally raped by the prison guards.

>>213459552
He's right tho. Nobody cared about Arthur.

>>213460216
>Avatarfagging as a short hair woman
TROON ALERT
TROON ALERT
And even so, Arthur Fleck was a shit character and had the depth of a fucking cartoon. People only cared about him as a mirror to their own selves and that was a far better use of their time than caring about this stupid Jewish character. PLUS, YOU DUMB FUCKING TROON NIGGER, in the first movie it is revealed his name is NOT Arthur Fleck because he was an abused, adopted child and that lead to him adopting the Joker as his identity and thus playing into the Joker having no real identity or past as is customary in the comics but you parrot that Jew's excuses to just make a political hit piece. FUCK YOU.

>>213460242
How do people forget the first movie so quickly? It was established in the ending that Arthur Fleck is a fake identity molded by abuse and mental illness whereas Joker was his true self hence the ending where he happily murders some black bitch and dances about it and then escapes to go fight Batman and the scene is set years in the future because Joaquin has white hair.

The sequel never happened and can't exist in the timeline. The first film only is canon.

>The second movie has a scene of Sophie calling Arthur a piece of shit virgin loser after talking with his mother
>the same mother that was bedridden and couldn't move on her own somehow had conversations with a neighbor freely while Arthur was out working
Phillips made this movie as a spiteful 200 million Twitter post against Nazi Incels.

>>213459432
This is correct, just notice how nobody felt empathy for the abuse Arthur suffered in the second movie, they were just angry the movie "ruined the Joker" or making fun of the violence.
Instead of
>wow, mentally ill people used to be treated like shit back then, is this still happening nowadays?
People went
>hahaha le funny rape scene

Todd Philips is a visionary.

>>213460345
THERE IS NO ARTHUR
THE FIRST MOVIE WAS ABOUT THE JOKER DISCOVERING HIS IDENTITY WAS A LIE AND BECOMING HIMSELF (THE JOKER) STOP PARROTING TODD PHILLIPS' LIES AND EXCUSES YOU FUCKING NPC COCKSUCKERS
GO WATCH THE FIRST MOVIE

That is the kind of sophomoric writing capeshitters consider deep

>>213454611
Stop kidding yourself, you've never read any of Ted's writings

>>213460381
>>213460345
>Todd Phillips is a visionary
No, he's the Jew who made the Hangover and him plagiarizing Scorsese under a DC Comics skinsuit is about the most embarrassing shit ever.
>>213460381
Yep. People who consume capeshit are far, far lower than even idiots who watch wrestling.