Anyone wanna tell me about how this movie bombed?
I offer now as the time to bring that up.

>>213463526 (OP)
Straight to HBO Max lol

>>213463526 (OP)
oh no oh no only half a billion bros... what is gunn gonna do?? oh wait that's actually real good after 30 fucking marvel flicks.

>>213463582
Superman's domestic box office is such bullshit. Rereleased so many times but it all gets counted as 1978 dollars

>>213463526 (OP)
because I said it needed 2 trillion dollars to break even

>>213463526 (OP)
Pedojeets constantly needing validation from the actual superman clan

Lol no you didn't do good. You will never be as good you pedos

>>213463582
Are they seriously comparing 2025 box office with a movie made in the 70s? Even retards who never heard of inflation is must feel this isn't right.

>>213463695
Go on /v/ some time there are people who genuinely do not believe inflation exists.
>$60 was a ridiculous price for video games back in the nineties, why is it suddenly supposed to be okay now?

>>213463736
this conveniently ignores the EAs and Paradox Interactives of the world
like i might pay $90 for a game if it was really, really good but i'm not shelling out $30-40 every few months for a few more assets.

>>213463526 (OP)
>next movie confirmed streaming only
gunnpedosisters...

>>213463582
>lower than JUSTice League
Cringe.

>>213463835
only because jeets cannot stop sucking of Snyder
i like Snyder but meh, as I get older I'm less enamored with Batman v Superman. it really is kind of nonsensical.

>mogs supershit's BO and audience reception
heh, tough luck, gunn scum

>>213463835
International gross does not matter at all, the studio doesn't see that money
"It sold well in Thailand" is as much of a cope as "It's gonna sell so well on DVD"

>>213463972
technically they don't see the domestic money either. they make money leasing the reels to cinemas, right? i don't see DC guys punching tickets at the kinoplex.

>>213464005
they get a much bigger cut of domestic earners than they do international, which they also get a cut of butt it's a much smaller % due to foreign distribution, foreign regulations, foreign theaters taking a higher cut, poor exchange rates etc. Theaters make most of their money off overpriced popcorn.

>>213463526 (OP)

>>213464005
Nah they get a good cut of American box office

Weird, the OP asked to evidence that the movie was a flop and yet nobody have prove it

>>213464041
theaters really deserve to die, i cannot FUCKING believe they survived covid. this shit has to stop.
0-day streaming now. it worked for pay-per-view, it can work again.

>>213463943
How is your star wars/40k ripoff universe going, hack?

>>213464205
You are gunn scum? Oh no, to be a gunn scum means to be, say it with my snyderchads, ROASTED, RAPED, AND RUINED.

>>213464167
The straming experiment failed though

>>213464149
>making under $600 mil. worldwide (lower than Man of Steel, even without adjusting for inflation)
>sequel is a team-up and not a solo film like they made BvS instead of Man of Steel 2

>>213464686
>Man of Steel 2
That movie would have been about supergirl and braniac lmao. Stay mad.

>>213464686
it beat the MoS domestic box office

>>213464786
A real gentleman never speaks ill of the Chinese

>>213464686
it's not going to finish at under 600m tho

>>213464686
>sequel is a team up and not a solo film like BvS
you have to be seriously coping to pretend putting Supergirl in the Superman sequel is the same thing as trying to shove in Batman and Wonder Woman.

>>213463582
>made less than MoS
>UNADJUSTED
PCUfags on suicide watch

>>213463526 (OP)
This means he will direct Supergirl? I thought that one already had a different director. Or are they making a Superhorse, Superdog, etc. movie? Also I called earlier, Gunn is a control freak that can't play along with anyone, he will probably direct Batman and Wonder Woman too.

>>213465311
You might be stupid

>>213465375
He's not a gunntroon though

Lois Lane better be pregnant with a Non gay Super Son

>>213465548
kek I'm imagining Superman using his zoom vision to check for the gay gene on his X chromosome

>>213464686
Redditors: Superman earning $500 million is fantastic, Gunn is a god, return to form, restoring the brand.
Also redditors: Fantastic four earning $500 million means it’s commercial flop, Marvel in shambles, fire Feige.

>>213465470
>stating that gunn is not directing supergirl, a film that has already been filmed and is in postproduction and directed by Craig Gillespie means you are a gunnshill
jesus christ

>>213463582
I've seen so many gunnfags bring this up (it has the highest domestic gross of any Superman movie) as if fucking inflation doesn't exist

>>213465613
Superman will finish at $625m on a $225m budget, Fantastic Four will finish at $55m on a $250m budget. That's not to mention that Superman is coming off of a damaged brand with no star power, or that Superman made more since the domestic split was better

>>213465681
*$550m
Could you imagine kek

>>213465613
redditors were also predicting 1 billie for superman.

>>213465681
Marvel is also a damaged brand retard

>>213465667
>he doesn't know about ghostdirecting
Yikes

>>213463526 (OP)
superman is a boring character with a gay outfit
only retarded fags and indians care about superman

>>213465681
>Superman will finish at $625m
>implying this piece of shit flick will earn 70m more
Lol lmao

>>213465693
True. The production budget is $363 million.

>>213465758
>we're going to adjust for the fact that our industry is declining as a whole
Nice cope gymnastics

>>213465758
>takes 25% off from 2013 figures instead of the inflation adjusted one
And they say AI is going to replace us. Lmfaooooooo

>>213465681
>Fantastic Four will finish at $55m on a $250m budget.
Marvelfags aren’t laughing now.

He just needs to keep budgets under 100 million and not be a gigantic retard with politics in the movie

>>213465806
They're incredibly butthurt Gunn's Superman will finish lower than MoS and Justice League.
>>213465813
Subtracting 25% from $970 million gives $727 million, Superman still lost to MoS.

>>213463526 (OP)
How many snyderverse movies did this out gross, I wonder?

>>213466006
>butthurt Gunn's Superman will finish lower than MoS and Justice League.
Good. I hope all the Gunntroons spamming this shitty flick will now off themselves

>>213463526 (OP)
The fact that people are arguing over whether it was a success or not shows it's definitely not the success they were hoping it to be. The long-term health of DC is still in question.

Why the fuck did WB choose James Gunn? Jon Favreau launched the MCU and Mandoverse, why not him? Gunn just introduced quipshit that's killing MCU

>>213467587
The only ones arguing are butt hurt Snydersexuals. It would’ve made a billion and they’d say it’s a flip because say budget was 700 million and MOS made more profit or some bullshit

>>213467587
The first DC movie to make a profit in several years is good enough for WB to stop sweating
They lost billions on this brand

Jeets have no idea about business and why they live in poverty. Goal is the movie was to rebuild Superman brand. It’s doing better than any Superman movie domestically with great word of mouth. As a longtime Superman fan I’ve never seen Superman get this kind of attention. Too young for Chris Reeve days but it’s always been Batman or Spider Man. When Superman Returns came out it was forgotten in a week and with MOS wwe nothing but criticism

>>213463526 (OP)
>I offer now as the time to bring that up.
plinket

>>213468051
Honestly this has entered into my vernacular so seamlessly I forget that he's where I first heard it
It's such good "asshole" vocabulary

>>213468092
I like tell my family
>you boil the water. you pour the packet

>>213468114

>>213468139
Don't underestimate how much you can use it around Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Snydertrannies are legit suicidal I bet

>>213463526 (OP)
I have no idea why they're continuing. Maybe contractual obligations are involved. Maybe market research indicates this will be a sleeper hit that a sequel can exploit. Maybe they're just willing to take a risk. Maybe it's a confidence ploy, similar to how disney keep pretending there's going to be new star wars trilogies.

But that doesn't change the fact that the box office is not a success at present.
If reinforcement of failure was an indication of success, disney star wars and post 2020 marvel would be the success story of the decade.

>>213468348
Pure cope. If it wasn’t a success, Zaslov would be giving Supergirl the Batwoman treatment and shelving it for a tax write off. He the would then be demanding Batman be in next movie. Gunn would likely be replaced or he definitely wouldn’t be still in charge

Why do people still believe that the Snyderverse would EVER come back?

>>213468348
>I have no idea why they're continuing.
Universal tried that shitty Dark Universe like 5 times, last one was that Renfield movie with Hoult and Nic Cage, the follow up to that was that Abigail movie, her dad was supposed to be Cage but they changed to the same guy who played Ozymandias. John Wick tried with Ballerina and failed this year, next one gonna be Predator Badlands that clearly is tied to Alien. Studios want that shared universe money at any cost but they don't realize this NEVER worked outside of Marvel and even that is dead by now.

>>213468617
I think they all know it isn't gonna happen they just want the new movies to fail as punishment

>>213468617
Well people even believe Gunnverse is good and winning so why not? I bet someone somewhere even thinks the MCU will make a comeback with Doomsday.

>>213468688
It is winning. Superman going to have a domestic close to The Batman. That’s crazy. Never expected it to make a billion, no Superman movie ever has. Just because he’s well known doesn’t mean he’s been a box office draw. He hasn’t been for over forty years. But I’ve never seen him get this kind of attention before. If foreigners are not interested, who gives a fuck. What you going to do, make him Chinese

>>213468511
glad to see your mind reading powers are active and ready, anon

>>213469012

>>213468348
Zazlav said it needed to make $500 million to be considered a success and I don't believe that man is capable of seeing any part of the industry but numbers. So either he thinks it performed well enough by the metrics they set out,or he no longer is the type of guy to nuke several complete movies before they release for a tax writeoff.

>>213463526 (OP)
It’s called Super-Family? Sounds gay as fuck.

>>213465751
DC and Marvel are both hemorrhaging money so fucking bad that they're literally saying "yeah, well they're losing more blood than me, so I win."
Capeshit has officially become pathetic, especially its fans.

>>213469096
Zaslav also seemingly recently changed his mind about selling WB. I think he's in it for the long game now

>>213469012
>But I’ve never seen him get this kind of attention before.
Gunn superman was forgotten within the week aside from desperate shills who already gave it money.
More people are talking about Dean fucking Cain right now.

>>213469199
It's done so well with the help of word of mouth though.

>>213463526 (OP)
Sure. Marketing budget reported as 125-200 million, for a total budget of 350-425 million. A studio gets up to 60% of the domestic box office, however, after the first 2 weeks this number falls. After 6 weeks that percentage can drop to as low as 40%. For the international box office, it varies by country, but they only get 20-40%.

Even if we are being as generous as possible and assume they got 60% of the domestic box office and 40% of the international box office, and that the marketing budget was only 125 million the movie was still a flop. That would give the studio a take home of only 287.6 million dollars against a budget of 350 million. So that’s already 62.4 million dollars in the red. However we know it’s more because we know the international box office varies between 20-40% by country and they didn’t get 40% of the total international box office, we know that after the first 2 weeks studios get less than 60% of the domestic box office with a decreasing share each week, and we know that the marketing budget could have been up to as much as 200 million dollars.

Being as generous as possible it still lost 62.4 million, but the reality is it lost far more, and this could easily have lost more than 100 million dollars.

>>213465758
This is massively disingenuous. Global box office is down post covid because Comic Book Movies are down post covid because people are sick of braindead comic book movies. Gunn's junk doing less worse than Marvel's trash is nothing to celebrate if you are into CBMs as a whole.
That decline is by no means uniform. Cheap horror movies still make massive ROI, this year a summer romantic drama mismarketed as rom com in Materialists is going to make 4 times its budget.

Studios just have to be more cautious with dumb big budget movies because people are sick of them and it's actually risky as opposed to 2018. Good.

>>213469318
>It's done so well
No, Joker did well with word of mouth.
No capeshit movie released this year has done well.

>>213463526 (OP)
It didn't bomb but it wasnt "succesful"

>>213469371
Thanks for correcting me, all those other people must have been embarrassingly wrong and you and only you are right.

>>213469430
>all those other people
I've yet to see them.

>>213469489
You have to leave your home for that

>>213469528
I do.
I've still yet to see them.
Nobody talks about superman at all, except for how he's working for ICE.

>mogs jewperman
>throws out mexicans, killing future capeshit box office returns
A true hero

>>213469618
>I do.
>I've still yet to see them.

You have to leave your home for that instead of pretending that you do.

>>213469012
Anon, they spent 250 million in the movie + another 200 on marketing. They wanted 1 billion, this movie is barely paying itself. The first Suicide Squad made 750 million with characters people barely knew. You are delusional to call this a win.

>>213469671
Again I leave my house all the time.
Pretending I don't isn't helping your argument. Superman 2025 wasn't even a flash in a pan. It went so hard in the opposite direction of Man of Steel that it backfired.

>>213469655
It's on brand. SuperKWAB got his ass beat in the movie all the time, too.

>>213468617
Maybe because Gunnbots are more fixated on Snyder than Gunn's movie?

>>213469703
Suicide Squad had Harley and The Joker. Did MOS make 750 million? Superman is not a box office draw. He isn’t Spider Man or Batman. However this movie going to have a higher domestic than Suicide Squad. It just beat Rebirth in domestic sales. This movie is a hit in the US. Again, nothing can do about China boycotting capeshit and other countries preferring dinoslop

>>213470032
I only see the Snyder fans constantly shit on this movie. Why would they shit on Gunn if they enjoyed his movie?

>>213468617
The only people who say this are gunnshills trying to distract from their own misfire

>>213470179
It’s getting a sequel bros WB thrilled. You jeets are always wrong. Why you live in literal shit

>>213470221
>It’s getting a sequel bros
So did Man of Steel.

>>213466006
>>213466100
Dam snydertrannies still crying at the word domestic?

>>213463526 (OP)
Changing their plans kinda indicates that

>>213463526 (OP)
It didn't.

>>213470096
Man of Steel was a cold debut, not a sequel. Same reason why bots insisting Gunnperman would open to $150m and make $1b were fucking idiots. Even the only debuts that made $150m/$1b, Black Panther and Captain Marvel, were part of a long-running series and were teased in previous movies

>>213465672
You don't give a flying fuck about inflation for ANY other movie in existence, so why do you suddenly pretend to care for this one?

>>213463526 (OP)
>Anyone wanna tell me about how this movie bombed?
It's capeshit that didn't make a billion.
Gunn is on record coping and saying "It doesn't HAVE to make 700 million to succeed!"
The movie underperformed and WB is attempting to use denial and gaslighting to pretend it hasn't, which Zaslav is known for, as it happens.

>>213470221
Why is James "pedo" Gunn so interested in 12 year olds?

>>213470251
>making less than a movie released 12 year old is a good thing. Here's why.
You PCUfags amuse me

>>213464205
You forgot 7 Samuray, space Niggers stealing some rice kek.

>>213463526 (OP)
>>213463582
I'm sorry your kids movie bombed :(

>>213470250
No it didn’t. Got Batman forced into it. This movie going be what all losers wanted MOS 2 to be with Supergirl and Brainiac

>>213470276
>not a sequel
Which movie is this one a sequel to?

>>213470514
>No it didn’t.
Imagine being this fundamentally stupid.

>>213470295
This.
You shills are so fucking obvious that it's exhausting at this point.
I am not going to pay for capeshit ever. I haven't in years and I swore back then that I never would. It deserves to die.

>>213470295
>>213470591
>cape derangement syndrome
Sad!

>>213463526 (OP)
He's going to be a side character in his own sequel like Captain Marvel was. Much success very wow

>>213470096
>This movie is a hit in the US
Yes, but again at the cost of 200 million in marketing alone. That's a lot of work to get 500 million, with a DCU that doesn't have a plan because Gunn changes his mind every week. Also, if Superman is not a draw what can we call Supergirl? Even the CW show which had a much better casting was not a huge success. The next movie should have been Wonder Woman and then Batman, not goddamn Supergirl, that's a minor character, it's like making a sequel to The Batman focused on Robin.

>>213470566
BvS is not a sequel to MOS. All you Snydersexuals do it bitch how MOS never got a direct sequel but instead WB forcing Batman into the next one

>>213470400
This tranny is suicidal about the domestic market lmao
More money for WB than the chinese shit market man of murder got
No wonder shazam did more profit than mos.

>>213470634
>cape derangement syndrome
Capeshit fatigue. Nobody wants your slop anymore

>>213470689
>Snydersexuals do it bitch how MOS
>but instead WB forcing Batman into the next one
Good morning, sir

>>213470659
>200 million in marketing
Source?

>>213469760
>It went so hard in the opposite direction of Man of Steel that it backfired.
Into critical acclaim?

>>213470692
Yes, yes lil gunntroon. This movie was totally a massive hit.
LMFAO

>>213470731
Ah my mistake. I didn't know critical acclaim could pay bills.

>>213470659
They did spend 200 million on marketing. Wicked had the highest marketing budget ever at 180 million. It had promos during two Super Bowls, a full add float at the Macy’s Day Parade on Thanksgiving and around the clock blitz before and even after the movie came out

>>213464205
>got the budget he asked for
>allowed to shoot 2 films consecutively
>got complete creative control
>was guaranteed that he could release an unedited R rated cut (which he did)
>#1 film on Netflix the week it premiered

Honestly think he probably had a more enjoyable experience with Netflix than with WB desu

>>213470721
Jeet

>>213463835
DC is a massive poisoned well and Marvel has stagnated the genre. Pulling these numbers in the western/vampire/zombie fatigue era of the comic book movies is pretty good.

>>213470774
No, but having ien of the highest domestic box office does.

>>213470823
>Jeet
Yes you are. Your garbage ESL grammar was a dead giveaway
>>213470850
>muh domestic box office
KEK

>>213470726
My ass. It's a great ass tho.

>>213463582
>JL 661M
>Snydercut >direct to video
Idk why Warner is trying to make money with this shit, just sell it to Amazon, kek.

>>213463526 (OP)
crying that the movie bombed gives the kikes a tax break

>>213463526 (OP)
And to think, /tv/fags assured me this movie was gonna be a flop. They’ll of course now go to their rolodex of excuses to explain why it wasn’t a complete failure.

>>213470880
>just sell it to Amazon
There is a theory that Zaslav is actually shitting on the DCU on purpose so the price will go down and make it easier for Amazon to purchase the whole thing
>b-but he works for WB
Yes and will get a larger paycheck from Amazon under the table for this deal. This kind of backstabbing is pretty common, people say the same happened when Zaslav bought WB

>>213470868
Yes the domestic bo where the studio keeps most of its money. Are you retarded?
I'm so glad we are moving away from bugmen pandering just for some bo inflation.

>>213470945
Domestic is also where all the merchandise and comics are sold. But people must make it at swear shops

>>213470945
>>213470978
This is the saddest gunntroon cope I've ever read.
Hahahaha

>>213471019
>no argument
Sad indeed

>>213471085
Why argue over inane shit? You using muh comics as a cope is sad and a little pathetic

>>213471019
Only one coping is you Snyder faggots. What happened to F4 destroying Superman? What happened to critics going to hate this movie? Audiences would hate it? It would fall off a cliff its second weekend? It wouldn’t even make 500 mill? It was going to bomb domestically? There wasn’t going to be a sequel? Gunn is going to get fired?

>>213471170
>anyone who laughs at my shitty flick is a sneederfag
This is exactly why I was ecstatic when this flick will barely reach MoS' collection

>>213471165
So so sad

Snydertrannies are unhinged today
Wonder what happened?

>>213471280
Using comics as a cope is so so sad

>>213470514
Superman was also exactly what /co/ in 2013-2016 wanted Man of Steel to be or insisted Cavill's Superman would "grow into"

>>213471296
The sequel announcement and it being the best performing superhero movie of the year is really bothering them

>>213469349
>Studios just have to be more cautious with dumb big budget movies because people are sick of them and it's actually risky as opposed to 2018.
Way ahead of you

>>213471360
That's still a shitton of movies, basically one for each month of the year. How many did they used to release before, two per month?

>>213471420
Yeah

>>213471320
U mad?

>>213471360
Responsible and fair output

>>213471420
>How many did they used to release before, two per month?
At least. WB would put out like 34 movies a year, but that was back when they weren't run by incompetent morons and hemorrhaging money

>>213463526 (OP)
Because it's devastating to my goal of restoring my beloved snyderverse. I figure if I just rub my hands and wish very hard, I can make the movie bomb even after it's already achieved profitability. If Superman can reverse time, why can't I?

>>213464686
The Marvels all over again except Captain Marvel was successful

>>213465758
That's why No Way Home and Strange 2 and Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2 and Barbie and Mario and Deadpool 3 flopped. It's le smaller market!