Thread 213475564 - /tv/ [Archived: 22 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:04:22 AM No.213475564
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How did hollywood manage to brainwash consumers to care about the box office profits of their slop?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:05:25 AM No.213475592
They didn't. Culture war retards did that on their own.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:07:57 AM No.213475643
>>213475564 (OP)
It's a form of validation, I liked X and it did well, that means thing I like is popular and therefore I am popular, normal, and accepted. If your interests are strange and unrelatable, you end as a capital A Anon saying kek kek based cope seethe based based capeshit kino kek based all day, gaining weight and stinking.

If it's a franchise, it's also an indicator for whether you'll get more of what you like, or less. A poor box office means it is less likely they'll make another iteration, or if they do make one it'll be radically different and wearing the thing you like as a skin suit.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:09:42 AM No.213475677
It's like having a favorite sports team, or a political party, or video game console, or a smartphone manufacturer, and going online to yell at people who prefer the other one and parroting the numbers of your favorite to try to prove that it's superior. It's all the same tribalist shit.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:12:07 AM No.213475720
Please refrain from posting photos of my wife without permission or else I will be compelled to take legal action
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:12:14 AM No.213475727
>if it makes money they will make more like it
>if it loses money they will not make more like it
wow that's so fucking hard to understand, oh wait it's actually corpo brainwashing!
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:15:24 AM No.213475789
amy jo
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Amy Jo, my love.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:17:18 AM No.213475835
>>213475564 (OP)
Is that the original suit or did she rent it? Saban was a cheap ass so no way he let her keep the suit
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:18:15 AM No.213475852
When you think of a jew, you're thinking of Haim Saban
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:18:29 AM No.213475854
>>213475564 (OP)
No one does outside this echochamber of autists
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:21:29 AM No.213475917
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>>213475720
Your wife is a slut, giving upshort shots to the youth makes it weirder
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:21:38 AM No.213475922
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>tfw she's still pretty cute
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:21:47 AM No.213475924
>>213475564 (OP)
Daily reminder her "boyfriend" because she is another whore who slept around and now has a boyfriend at 55 is 14 years younger than her and no one is bitching about the age gap

https://youtu.be/lkGIDROhN7I?si=yBPzcZxB7Y2pZIAJ&t=290
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:22:14 AM No.213475934
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>>213475564 (OP)
It's part of the culture war, which is the most important problem we face right now.
pic semi related
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:22:48 AM No.213475939
>>213475727
This.
Plus it's only a segment of people who are more into following the industry and discussing movies.
The average "consumer" doesn't know or care about any box office numbers and doesn't care about the reasons for movies to get made or not
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:23:16 AM No.213475950
>>213475924
>14 years younger than her
The fucking lucky cunt.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:23:37 AM No.213475960
>>213475917
that webm roused memories long forgotten anon...
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:24:30 AM No.213475985
>>213475960
There are other upshort shots, we need a coalition to find them all and archive them
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:24:38 AM No.213475991
>>213475924
It's ok when women do it. And that goes for everything, not just this
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:26:37 AM No.213476042
>>213475564 (OP)
Shit started in the 2010s. There was always some fan base wars but it was joking. It was really only critics that would talk about box office success I think. It used to be popular to like indie things that were not popular and people didn't care about profit as viewers.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:26:52 AM No.213476049
>>213475991
Honestly, kind of, I honestly dont find it weird when news comes out some decent looking teacher hooked up with her student, but get rather mad when its a male
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:27:34 AM No.213476064
>>213475564 (OP)
The only reason I even follow box office profits is so that I know when capeshit is finally dead and the recent numbers have been really promising for me.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:27:49 AM No.213476077
>>213475924
She basically said without directly saying it that from 18 till she left Felicity she was a whore who slept around. She was in a cult as a kid, left it and just opened her legs to any man in Hollywood
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:28:50 AM No.213476105
>>213476049
It doesn't matter what you think personally because overall society has a double standard. I agree it's fine but these same retards would flip out if it was reversed
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:29:41 AM No.213476125
>>213475643
Yup. It's "I spent a lot of money on this and so did other people" it's not even about if the movie was good, it's where the review industry is at now. People don't wait for reviews and decided based on reviews, they watch the reviews to validate their opinion. No one thinks for themselves anymore. It's also incredibly pass/fail and no more nuance. There's no more "mid" movies.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:30:26 AM No.213476140
>>213475950
>The fucking lucky cunt.
>when he turns 45 she will be 60 and when he is 50 she will be pushing 70 as a old shambling mess
Nah unless she has money he didn't think this through. She is already at menopause age.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:30:39 AM No.213476152
>>213475564 (OP)
I don't get it either
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:31:06 AM No.213476161
>>213475564 (OP)
She's so cute idc
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:32:41 AM No.213476212
>>213476140
Nigga some of the best pussy going is in the 60+ range. You'll learn some day.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:33:35 AM No.213476238
>>213476105
>It doesn't matter what you think
Im just agreeing with the post, so in this case, it does matter what I think
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:34:00 AM No.213476246
>>213476212
Why are people who never had sex in their lives making posts like this?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:34:36 AM No.213476259
>>213476212
Ive done the math, past rhe age if 50 a miles worth of poop came out of their anus, and anon, thats gross
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:00 AM No.213476271
>>213476238
It doesn't because overall society doesn't agree with your argument
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:09 AM No.213476279
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>>213475564 (OP)
Snyder won, butt hurt SISSYMAN2025 Gunn follower.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:36 AM No.213476290
someone post the gifs
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:36 AM No.213476291
>>213476246
Also why do they all seems to be into smelly vaginas and buttholes?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:35:49 AM No.213476300
>>213476246
Why are homosexuals projecting their inexperience on others?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:36:43 AM No.213476330
>>213476271
I actually think society 100% has less of a problem with female pedos than male pedos, yes they would want them both locked up, but society probably would flinch if the woman was give 5 years while the man got 20
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:37:28 AM No.213476348
>>213476291
Same retards who say shit like "god I wish she would step on me and shit on me and piss on me imagine the smell" just people who never had sex overcompensating.

>>213476300
>if you don't find 60 year old woman attractive you are gay
bro start with a fat chick first before you make these arguments and larp
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:37:29 AM No.213476349
>>213476259
>>213476291
Why do gays like talking about poop so much?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:38:29 AM No.213476371
>>213476330
That's my point the double standards. I said if it was reversed people would flip out
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:38:47 AM No.213476383
>>213476348
>he's never experienced the warmth of a middle aged fatty
lmao this nigga zesty
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:38:53 AM No.213476388
>>213476349
Dont know, tell us
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:39:19 AM No.213476400
>>213475564 (OP)
youtube grifters that dont watch the content they make essays and 10 min slop videos about are the ones that rely on box office discussion. its a tangible talking point they can point at and say it failed or succeeded by or blame audience not showing up/showing up depending on the narrative they want and they are "right" because its a stat. they dont have to discuss the plot, characters, themes, cinematography, effects, etc. they dont have to convince you to agree with why they think the movie is shit or great. they can say number big, movie good or number small, movie bad without justification.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:39:47 AM No.213476413
>>213476388
I wouldn't know, I'm not gay and I don't like poop.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:40:15 AM No.213476427
>>213476383
You never experienced sex period and we were talking about 60 year olds. 60 is not middle age
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:40:31 AM No.213476433
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>>213475564 (OP)
my team good, your team bad
consooooooom
false idol worship
muh "message"
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:40:37 AM No.213476435
>>213476413
Something a hidden gay would say
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:42:45 AM No.213476482
>>213476427
>You never experienced sex period
The virgin doth project too much.
>60 is not middle age
Who gives a fuck?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:44:21 AM No.213476524
>>213476482
>n...n...no u
>Who gives a fuck?
Just pointing out the virgins who post retarded fetishes they never even partaken in
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:46:14 AM No.213476569
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posting in an ajj thread
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:48:41 AM No.213476626
>>213476569
You think she knew she was a sex symbol for boys aged 6 to 99?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:50:16 AM No.213476667
>>213475924
>HE IS 41 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:50:56 AM No.213476677
>>213476667
I personally don't care just pointing out its ok when its in this direction
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:51:26 AM No.213476687
>>213475564 (OP)
For me it started with Solo: A Star Wars Story.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:51:57 AM No.213476698
>>213476626
I was like -10 when the show came out and she was a sex symbol for me
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:52:01 AM No.213476700
>>213476383
I've experienced the warmth of a 25 year old semi-fatty and even that wasn't great, every time we did it became more off-putting and made me wish I could attract slim girls instead
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:52:48 AM No.213476724
>>213476677
I know I'm just being anecdotal but I've never seen people complain about a man in his 50s dating a woman in her 40s.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:53:05 AM No.213476728
>>213475564 (OP)
Why is the cop in the back feeling up his own tits?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:53:55 AM No.213476747
>>213476626
she knew
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:54:02 AM No.213476750
>>213476728
he was lactating and very embarrassed about it
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:54:23 AM No.213476763
>>213476724
It would be a man in his 50's dating a 35 year old and Dicaprio has been attacked for doing it for years
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:56:52 AM No.213476825
>>213476763
Silly anon, women don't reach mental maturity until after they're well past their menopause. You're practically raping them if you even look their way.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:57:16 AM No.213476835
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:58:53 AM No.213476866
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>>213476626
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:43:25 AM No.213478060
POST THE GIFS
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:45:10 AM No.213478117
>>213475564 (OP)
Entertainment news has always reported on it as a primary story and it gets picked up by regular news.
>>213475592
No, retard.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:45:38 AM No.213478127
its a very dumb way of looking at movies, thats for sure. some of the best, or at least memorable, things i've seen were straight to video trash.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:56:40 AM No.213478455
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I miss watching the Power Rangers marathon with /tv/
Kat was best girl
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:10:03 AM No.213478909
>>213478455
bro get a job and a gf and move on with your life holy fucking shit
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:12:09 AM No.213478983
>>213475835
The original props went up for auction but I don't think they'd be in good enough condition to wear again
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:16:14 AM No.213479103
>>213478909
where do you think you are? stupid tourist faggot.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:17:52 AM No.213479162
>>213476763
Nobody would give a shit if Leo dated a 35yo. He got moderately criticised for dating women <25. Like, it became a meme. No rational person was calling him to be imprisoned for it
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:19:12 AM No.213479209
>>213479103
There is pathetic and there is have nostalgia for a 8 year old twitch power rangers stream pathetic.

This is what I can't stand about zoomers. When 4chan first started it attracted weird people with weird fetishes but they still had sex back then. Zoomers have made this a complete incel site
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:19:50 AM No.213479236
>>213479209
I know you are, but what am I?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:20:12 AM No.213479246
>>213479162
>He got moderately criticised for dating women <25
and? Who gives a fuck? is 25 the age of consent part 2? There was no justification for that
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:21:13 AM No.213479288
>>213479236
A pathetic incel
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:22:00 AM No.213479317
>>213475564 (OP)
by reporting on it in the fist place to generate hype
however, it doesn't change the fact that anyone interested in the state of the industry as a whole is going to be interested in how well a movie does
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:22:44 AM No.213479354
>>213478909
>>213479209
get the fuck off my board, normalfag
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:24:01 AM No.213479405
The only time I care about box office is getting a sequel to something I enjoy. It genuinely upsets me Thunderbolts flopped because of all the other garbage films Marvel pumped out after Endgame. That's probably the only time I've ever cared.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:24:20 AM No.213479420
Leo isn't "attacked" for anything. He is a closeted homosexual who pays beards to pretend to be his girlfriend.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:24:22 AM No.213479423
>>213479354
No incel I will not
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:26:35 AM No.213479508
Oh wow the cope now is "Leo is gay" instead of simply not having double standards
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:28:24 AM No.213479581
>>213479405
Thunderbolts was just as shit
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:30:37 AM No.213479681
>>213479508
No cope, he's clearly gay.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:33:55 AM No.213479812
>>213479681
Leo is one of the most progressive actors alive. If he was gay he would come out just for the progressive points it gives since he is pretty much retired
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:35:25 AM No.213479869
>>213479246
>Who gives a fuck?
you're caring more than anyone else ITT
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:38:01 AM No.213479969
>>213479869
I am talking about fucking girls under 25 retard. I don't. You do since you brought it up
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:52:39 AM No.213480461
Zordon_power_rangers
Zordon_power_rangers
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>"ALPHA! Sneeda has escaped! Recruit a team of teens with autism!"
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:04:58 AM No.213480870
>>213479812
Nah, because he's also a pedophile.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:26:32 AM No.213481415
>>213478455
You can always do it with reddit, reddit frog avatar fag
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:32:21 AM No.213481562
>>213478455
>all the reactions from zoomers seeing Divatox and Astronema for the first time
I miss it too, anon.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:35:36 AM No.213481645
>>213476866
She holding back a fart in the bottom right pic
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:36:29 AM No.213481667
>>213475564 (OP)
It's a default in quality arguments either for or against. Similarly if you do or don't want to see more of X it's a pretty solid indicator of whether or not there will be more. Brainwashing isn't really necessary as long as there's disputes about what is or isn't good.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 4:15:55 AM No.213482632
>>213475564 (OP)
They don't. They desperately don't want people to know how much the movie made in reality in order to not pay taxes.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 4:16:38 AM No.213482647
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>>213475564 (OP)
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 4:31:49 AM No.213482976
>>213475564 (OP)
People are very, very stupid and are easily mindraped into thinking irrelevant shit is important.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:26:47 AM No.213484243
>>213475564 (OP)
Her nude scene was nice.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:53:26 AM No.213484829
>>213476626
>released a music video last year containing footage of her topless (with visible nipple) back in 2001
I dunno, anon, you tell me.
https://youtu.be/5IkbleI0PAM?t=212
3:32
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:54:11 AM No.213484846
still would
goddamn
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:00:51 AM No.213484978
>>213475924
Age gap stops being a huge deal past 30 bro. Plus no one cares when its a woman doing it, proving that age gap cry is just a thing envious hags do when men date younger woman.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:14:59 AM No.213485342
>>213484243
it was downright dangerous is what it was, I literally fapped myself into a coma asleep for 2 days straight and I'm an insomniac who can't sleep more than 4 hours at a time
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:15:53 AM No.213485362
>>213475917
they are playing in asbestos.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:18:59 AM No.213485450
>>213475564 (OP)
i dont give a fuck about that shit,you faggots are obsessed with that, as if box office would mean anything in terms of quality, a lot of cult movies were box office failures.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:19:13 AM No.213485452
>>213484978
>SHE WAS IN HER TWENTIES YOU SICK FUCK
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:27:57 AM No.213485631
>>213485452
>SHE WAS 29 AND 365 DAYS OLD
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:35:11 AM No.213487032
>>213475564 (OP)
I'd like to slop in her box office, if you know what I mean
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:32:20 AM No.213488004
>>213476866
bitches know this subconsciously from 16-22
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:33:20 AM No.213488028
>>213475564 (OP)
was she panhandling in the subway?
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:37:07 AM No.213488095
>>213488028
I think it was at a convention, it was for fun
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:37:26 AM No.213488104
>>213476212
no. that's ghoul ass anon
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:11:06 AM No.213488747
>>213475564 (OP)
>how can numbers just be higher or lower than other numbers???
congratulations on the lowest IQ post i've seen since 2008
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:27:05 AM No.213489041
>>213478455
One of the last times I remember everyone getting together to have fun.
Twitch chat was even funny during that marathon
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:20:56 AM No.213489920
>>213475564 (OP)
We don't care about their profits, we want to see them financially fail.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:35:08 AM No.213490148
>>213475934
I feel like they vastly overestimated their ability to control the minds of the average consumer, likely due to the rhetoric of people like WEF psycho-jew Noah Yuval Harari.
All they've managed to do is alienate 80% of men and a not insignificant number of women into becoming at minimum bored with their products.
Every establishment-aligned group went all in on promoting their agendas to the N'th degree almost overnight.
Black, muslims, gays, trannies, feminists and even fucking pedophiles got to be massively overrepresented in media.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:03:45 AM No.213490617
>>213475564 (OP)
Because avoid the real one's:
It's funny?
Engaging?
Has something to say?
$50(ticket+soda+popcorn minimum) well spend?

They need you take a side and hate blue team, otherwise you going to realize Tom, Spielberg even lebron hates you.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:59:21 AM No.213491317
>>213478455
>>213481562
>>213489041
this and the doctor who marathon in the same year were my last truly positive memories of watching twitch
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:19:11 PM No.213492492
>>213480461
>alpha there's a black one, make him the black ranger
>Alpha why did you get a chinese one? make it yellow
>who's this native american, make him red
>wait, I see an ultra chad, make him the white one
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:54:50 PM No.213494027
>>213475922
mirin those tri's
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:56:40 PM No.213494058
>>213476626
all women know they're sex symbols anon
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:18:23 PM No.213494497
>>213475592
>Culture war
I'm pretty sure hollywood started bragging about box ofice numbers when Jaws was a hit then starwas became a global phenomenon..
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:22:41 PM No.213494561
movies flopping at the box office doesnt matter, most movies flop. For a studio to survive they need a franchise. Some of the best movies made either flopped or bombed.