Honestly? He’s right

tl:dr

>is that a subtitle? AAAAAA IM GOING INSAAAAANE

>>213478737
kek

>>213478701 (OP)
Honestly? You should be raped by a pack of feral niggers for posting a shitter screencap thread. Didn't read.

>subtitles
>sidewalks
>robbie williams

uk had this scenario with welsh
they just filmed it two versions

cletus is just bitching cause he's functionally illiterate

>>213478701 (OP)
>they want me to read? For FREE? I didn't go to school for this!

>>213478701 (OP)
very authentic throwing boba in there

>>213478701 (OP)
corporations should know the average american is too ignorant and retarded to be able to read at a fast pace

>>213478701 (OP)
Is it actually good though?

>>213478965
>cause

>>213479196
... th-they have a pause button

is this good if i like Hawaiian chicks

Show was fucking sovl

>>213479231
the clips I've seen on twitter look pretty good

reading is for homosexuals

>more fuck whypeepo jewish slop
pass

>>213478737
you rascal

It's not about disliking subtitles. Subtitles are a necessary evil when watching movies made in other countries. This is virtue signalling by an American studio making their movie worse for no reason. It would be like having a silent movie for no reason, or having everyone in star trek speak klingon. Would you watch The Lord of the Rings if everyone was speaking the original Sindarin? No, that would be stupid. It makes the movie worse for no reason. This is different from say an Italian filmmaker making a film in Italian. That makes sense. This is virtue signaling.

>>213478701 (OP)
Momoa looks like he's taking a massive shit there.

>>213478701 (OP)
he's really quite wrong

>>213479454
you probably complain about Apocalypto

its a solid narrative strategy, you're just too fucking dumb to understand it, its way over your head

>>213479242
>Is that a colloquial contraction without an apostrophe?
>AAAAAAH I'M LOSING MY FUCKING MIND

>>213478701 (OP)
>hawaiian
>language
that's like saying texan is its own language, how retarded

>>213478701 (OP)
tell simpgpt to read it for you

white people are clowns

>>213478701 (OP)
How am I going to play it at 1.5x speed if i have to read subtitles?

>>213478701 (OP)
this series is actually pretty not-woke and shows how cruel and violent the 4 different hawaiian kingdoms treated each other

its really not all that bad but its not amazing either

>>213479718
Apocalypto has barely any dialogue to begin with

It’s honestly insane how aggressively stupid non Americans are on this subject. I think the only way to convince these retards, is to have them watch a movie with subtitles, a language you don’t know. Memorize the experience. Then get fluent in that language and watch the movie again. It is objectively a better experience, you now pick up all the intricacies of the spoken dialogue you missed before, your attention isn’t being interrupted however briefly by glancing down at the subs. I have over 3 years of playtime on MUDs, if you know what that is, you know I am a faster reader objectively then anyone here(and also how much of a loser I am, but that’s beside the point). Subs are what you put up with if you don’t know the language, it’s not ideal. You should never make a show like this, especially to an audience not used to subs, because it’s a shit experience. Euros etc are more used to it, but it still sucks. This whole conversation is such a massive cope by non Americans, pathetic.

>>213479231
Yeah, it looks good from what I've seen.

>>213478701 (OP)
Mamoa isn't even Hawai'an. That's the best part. He's a landless mutt.

>>213478701 (OP)
I've been watching it without subtitles :(

>dubs them into English with British accents
*dusts hands*
perfecto!

>>213479141
Wow all my least favorite brown people! Where's Taika Cohen?

>>213481102
I don't get the joke, are sunglasses bad?

>>213482094
So what you're saying is you're a fat midwesterner or spic.

>>213482161
>you're a fat midwesterner
yeah

does it show them eating all the old people and unwanted babies?

>>213478701 (OP)
dumb amerigolem lmao

>>213482288
Hold on, I gotta jot down some notes.

Boomer...problem...solved.

What were we talking about?

>>213482345
island niggers ate lots of people before evil white man showed up

>>213478701 (OP)
>US State Hawaii
>"Foreign language"

>>213478701 (OP)
That's because it's only Hawaiians in the first two episodes until like halfway into episode two when some whites show up. The MC is on their boat at the end of the episode so more English to come I imagine.

>>213482398
That's terrible!

>>213478701 (OP)
Apocalypto? Mel Gibson's movies are in subtitles and they do really well. I think people will turn up if the people involved are liked. If the story is interesting.
I would be interested in something like this but I'm not giving Apple money, they're an immoral company.

>>213482541
>paying for content

>>213482549
I was thinking of the Kino-screen building, considering this is a /tv/ board for film and tv.

>>213478737
subtitles make me brain hurt

>>213482094
The point is they ALL look and act exactly the same

>>213478701 (OP)
How do you think he feels about picrel?

The average Netflix viewer prefers a dub. I know, I was disappointed by this too when squid game happened but here we are.

>>213478701 (OP)
>>213479141
hmmm this can happen with all brown people, but white people can't get their own, weird

>>213482017
Aziz isn't there

>>213482890
>white people can't get their own...?
You mean other than every movie that's on English?

>>213482933
IN English, you fucking subhuman. The word is "IN".

>>213482933
He's referring to the image where there are no white cast member.

>>213478701 (OP)
Omfg put the god damn phone down, this complaint is either from an illiterate blumpkin or a phone addicted fucktwat who only listens to movies and doesnt watch them

>>213478701 (OP)
>apple
Stopped reading there.

>>213478701 (OP)
>>213479141
I like islanders/maoris/etc, they seem like the only cool browns, might give it a watch
That haka shit they do before sports is kinda cringe tho

>>213481102
what kind of movies do they watch?

>>213483206
They murderously hate whites

>>213483206
>That haka shit they do before sports is kinda cringe tho
Its only cringe when some fuck from another race does it.

>>213483245
so does Israel but you love them now

>>213478737

>>213478701 (OP)
Does this have apocalypto vibes /tv/???????? Sounds amazing based on this retards take

>>213482933
Lmao go watch the century worth of movies made by whites for whites. Stop fucking complaining.

>>213482890
The Northman you fucking retard

>>213483206
>>213483245
There are practically no "pure" Hawaiians left. They're all Asian-Pacific mutts. Also most of their "culture" like luaus and Hawaiian clothing (shirts, hula skirts, etc) was invented in the 20th century explicitly to attract tourists and even then it was just stuff stolen from Whites and Japanese. Larp culture and larp race.

>>213478701 (OP)
Hey Chud, Hawaiian is a dying language. Have some respect for those trying to keep it alive and learn something about your fellow Americans

>>213483376
You're gonna freak when you learn about Italians.

>>213479141
Isn't Hawaiian pretty far removed from actual Ancient Polynesian languages

>What so I got to read this shit or something?

>>213483376
Even their flag is a larp. They put a fucking Union Jack on it because King Kamehameha (Yes, that's his name) had good relations with the British, who didn't see any profit in exploiting them.

>>213481047
Americans view television as a passive form of consumption, they don't take it seriously as a creative medium. This poster is emblematic of this. He only views critique through a lens of streamlining consumption. No mention at all as to potential artistic merit of maintaining cultural felicity to period pieces. It doesn't even occur to him.

To top it off nicely he includes some boorish appeal to authority as to how fast he can consoooom. This golem retard is a parody of himself.
>It’s honestly insane how aggressively stupid non Americans are on this subject.
Wew.

>>213479231
>yfw you never cook them feckin eggs

>>213483375
I'm sure they wanted people of color to play them originally, it's the just the backlash from the last decade of subversive anti-white propaganda became too much

>>213478701 (OP)
lmao Americans can't read

>>213478701 (OP)
>I CANT READ

>>213483245
So? You hate murderously hate the groups that you feel are invading your lands too.

>>213483700
That’s your entire argument though, all of you
>>213484032
Is an appeal to authority.
>if only Americans could read faster they would understand
Except that’s not true, I’m the fastest reader here, and subtitles are shit. It’s an objective fact. It’s an objective better experience to just listen to it in a language you are fluent in. This show is adding a made up meme language and subtitles for no reason, making it a worse experience for no reason. People put up with subs for say, an anime because they don’t speak Japanese. But obviously it would be better if you were fluent in jap. Or do you suppose in Japan they watch their anime dubbed in English then turn on Japanese subtitles. Actually, that IS what you think, it has to be. Because to you, it’s better. Just lol

>>213483376
Wrong. Pure Hawaiians exist here in some white people zoo.

>>213483484
Let it die.

The reason non native English speakers like subtitles is because the only media made in their native language is garbage. The only time they’ve ever seen kino it’s in English or Japanese and subtitled, so they associate subtitles with kino. Maybe you’d have a normal opinion on this if your people didn’t suck at everything, including art.

>>213478772
>>213478772
ameritards: the rest of the world should speak american, and if you have to write it down there is a conspiracy. also, make streaming great again!

>>213479141
Look like plenty Polynesians but not all that many Hawaiians... Does cultural appropriation only apply to a certain group of people?

>>213484463

>>213483206
Long pig walking

>>213484307
Ah yes, Ni'ihau. The second most racist secret of the noble Meth Giants. Sponsored by U.S. blood money just like the Bikini Atoll test subjects.

>>213478701 (OP)
I do a haka at the beginning and end of each episode to show respect to the native Hawaiians. It's starting to piss my wife off but it's the right thing to do. A when in Rome type deal y'know?

>>213484262
>That’s your entire argument though, all of you
My argument is that it's a creative medium where creative license should sometimes apply and your argument is you hate subtitles because it ruins your ability to consoom tv shows passively on your second monitor while playing video games.

Subtitles are inherently anti-cinematography. Your eyeballs should be immersed in the visuals, no fucking reading at the bottom of the screen.

Subtitles are inherently pro-cinematography. Your eyeballs should be immersed in the text, not fucking watching the visuals of the screen.

>homoiians
Oh great

>>213484582
That second part is pure speculation, and I can say for sure it doesn’t apply to me. If you think the artistic merit argument applies to this show why don’t you watch it and report back.

>>213485109
>If you think the artistic merit argument applies to this show why don’t you watch it and report back.
So it shouldn't apply to shows that you don't personally like?

Tell me, anon - are you an actual retard?

only japan is allowed to do this
only japanese
only japan
nobody else
japan only
shogun season 2 coming soon

So uh... is this the uhm... Mahu Thread?

>>213484032
>polynesians can

Temuera is pretty good in this must admit. I only ever saw him as Boba and Jango so first time seeing him outside of it.

>Is actually a brutal murderous chieftain in this

>>213485150
You yourself said you aren’t making the argument that all shows should be subtitled with spoken gibberish as the language. Right? So it’s a case by case situation, right? Well this thread is discussing the Hawaii show. I’ve stated why it shouldn’t have been done that way, why don’t you make an argument why it should have.

>>213482541
Mel Gibson is actually a good director though. If he made something similar to this show it would actually be worth watching.

Imagine you're a sailor
and you wash ashore australia seeing ugly abo women while your other mate washes up on a polynesian island filled with polynesian hotties

>>213478701 (OP)
Retards like this is why there are still dub anime watchers who defend it as a legitimate medium when in reality they're just defending their illiteracy.

He's not right

White Americans are the most insufferable buffons on earth. Look at their response to anything native whether Native American or Polynesian or anything like that they soil and throw temper tantrums at anyone practicing their culture or celebrating it in tv or movie medium or song or dance

look at their reaction the HAKA always americans going CRINGE why? because they lake soul, their entire existence is getting fat on processed food driving around in their 4 by 4's in the same souless copy and pasted town, they're souless deviants who are disconnected from the real world.

But insult something a white american likes? you'll hear them moaning like crybabies for months.

Insufferable fatties.

>>213485673
People who watch subtitled anime over dubbed have actual brain damage.

>>213483245
God whites are the biggest hypocrites of all time
>Jews shouldn't get to genocide but I should
>You aren't allowed to be bitter about my race
>Blacks were enslaved but Whites deserve welfare checks and gibs working is so 20th century I AIN'T LAZY IM PERFECT GIVE ME FREE SHIT TOOOOO

I'm excited to watch it
Idk anything about Hawaiians but it's a cool idea and learning that it's in their tribal language is awesome

>THE SHOW MUST BE AUTHENTIC AND MUST BE IN THE HAWAIIAN LANGUAGE
>Don't film on any of the Hawaiian Islands
>Film on New Zealand since it's cheaper and you get bigger tax breaks (Ty Hobbit)

>>213485833
Fuck up cunt

>>213485833
damn, i wish that were true
we were FAR too good with you ungrateful apes

>>213485645
>So it’s a case by case situation, right?
>I’ve stated why it shouldn’t have been done that way
Your argument was that it should never be done in any situation. You're backtracking on this now?

>>213484657
only valid opinion in this thread

>>213485979
>I can't play my fuggen steam games on my second monitor if the show is in subtitles!!

Been meaning to watch Chernobyl. Is the Russian dub with subtitles good?

>>213486168
No. If I have to pay attention to the show because of Subtitles I'm going to notice that the show looks nothing like Hawaii (I'm Hawaiian btw, idk if that matters or not)

I didn't mind subtitles/captions but I like them better when they're arranged higher on the screen near the actor who is speaking, I always feel like I'm going to miss seeing something important when they're all at the bottom.

>>213486208
>I'm trying to break 1k hours played on my new favorite slop steam game I need good shows to watch as I playyyyyyy
>no to subtitles we aren't Europe!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>213479454
>Would you watch The Lord of the Rings if everyone was speaking the original Sindarin?
Of course not, they were primarily speaking the language of man, also known as Westron

>>213486251
You talk like an annoying twitter faggot. Feel free to go back.

Honestly, they should have had an English dub option. Though I will watch it subtitled ... JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES!

>>213486272
>you don't understand it's non-normie to hate subtitles you are twitter!!!!!!!!!!
>I haven't read a single book of my own volition since high school btw

I don't hate the idea. Passion and Apocalypto were in foreign languages, so there's room for this too.

>>213486314
>im not reading any form of internet post structured like this on 4chan or twitter
>simple as

>>213479454
>This is different from say an Italian filmmaker making a film in Italian.
Why? What makes Italians making a film about Italy so different from Hawaiians (and, yes, other Pacific Islanders) making a film about Hawaii? People still speak the native language. And stuff like this helps keepnit alive.

>>213486367
>you are not based i am based you are twitter you lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>i wasn't even here before 2016 btw i'm so new i don't even understand how shit this place is yet

Just have them dub the movie like in Eastern Europe. One guy talks over all the characters. It's cheap and effective and Americans don't have to read.

>>213481047
>I have over 3 years of playtime on MUDs
Holy shit. And I thought I was an oldfag vidya playing loser.

>>213486414
I am amazed how garbage those bootleg dubbed films are. Eastern Europeans really are illiterate swine. Finding a "backup copy" of a film off peer to peer and realizing it only has the shitty foreign overdub is frustrating.

It's a good show so far. you guys should read about the horrible things the US did to the natives and their land

>>213478701 (OP)
MUH HERITIGEZ: The Movie

>>213478701 (OP)
Are Americans really terrified of subtitles?

>>213484560
Qrd?

>>213485820
>can't read
>i"-it's you who has brain issue!"

>>213486123
My argument is it shouldn’t be done unless it needs to be done. So like anime is gonna be in Japanese, an Italian film is gonna be in Italian, can’t help that. Stuff like say a ww2 film following British soldiers, and the nazis speak German? That seems reasonable to me I suppose. We both seem to believe subtitles make sense some of the time, no? So why the fuck would this show use them. Make the argument, you still haven’t made one btw, you are just crying about Americans

>>213487819
If you actually choose to hear the Japanese voices on those cartoons you are legitimately mentally ill. It’s ear rape and there is no reason whatsoever to do it. Live action there is a reason, it’s distracting as fuck. Anime the dub is just a straight upgrade.

>>213478701 (OP)
Bait for algorithm rageview farming or actual retard? Call it. Either way, he wins with those 10 million views.

>>213478701 (OP)
Is this a movie about them getting owned by superior white men? Because I'd watch that.

>>213478701 (OP)
Why can't Americans neither learn another language or read their own language? I don't usually even watch subtitled movies to my language, because English subtitles are easier to find

>>213488129
We dont have time for languages, barely even English. Our school funding goes to holocaust and slavery education and enough math to count change when we work at a mcdonalds

>>213478701 (OP)
>noooooooooo I can't pretend I'm watching a show on my second monitor aaaa I'm going insaaaaaaaaneeee save me niggerman!

Polynesians are so fucking busted in Vox Populi

>>213478701 (OP)
did this guy complain about Shogun too?

MOMOA
MCAVOY
BUTLER

THESE MEN ARE LARGER THAN LIFE
AND ARE TOO BASED

>Subtitles? NOT GOING TO WATCH!!

Your loss.

>>213482921
coconut niggers =/= curry niggers, anon.

>>213478701 (OP)
How do you say SPAM in Hawhyin?

qrd? i feel like momoa could carry himself/his race. Why did this flop?

if you know anything about pacific islanders you know their culture is cool and violent as fuck. Same shit with the usos in WWE, they're fumbling it and I CANT FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHY