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Anonymous No.213488345 >>213490131 >>213490285 >>213490386 >>213490440 >>213490473 >>213491786 >>213493434 >>213493464 >>213493584 >>213497093 >>213502371 >>213502906 >>213509964 >>213514015
WILL ALIEN: EARTH TAKE OVER /TV/ AS THE NEW TELEKINO SHOW OF 2025???
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/alien_earth/s01
>91%

Get ready for telekino.

>Following the first two episodes on August 12, 2025, FX will release one new episode per week every Tuesday at 8/7c. With eight total episodes slated for Season 1, Alien: Earth will run from August 12th to September 23rd.

The 2 episode torrents will be out in 5 days.
Anonymous No.213490131
>>213488345 (OP)
>5 days.
kino
Anonymous No.213490285 >>213491287
>>213488345 (OP)
>Alien
>Earth

Ripley spent her whole life trying to get rid of these, somehow they already there and the aliens are actually robots made by david? YEa im out
Anonymous No.213490386 >>213490406 >>213490428 >>213490473 >>213493409 >>213493760 >>213495261 >>213495743 >>213496054 >>213496320 >>213503379 >>213505305 >>213506944 >>213507930 >>213513978
>>213488345 (OP)
non-canon slop
Anonymous No.213490406 >>213493665 >>213494001 >>213495743
>>213490386
>abandons Ridley's prequels
good
Anonymous No.213490428 >>213495743
>>213490386
>in parrallel to Romulus
I fucking hate what they've done to classic movies
Anonymous No.213490440 >>213495233 >>213499809
>>213488345 (OP)
I'm more looking forward to Alien Isolation 2.
Mr. Eko !!5QhhtK5037m No.213490473 >>213490489 >>213495743
>>213488345 (OP)
>>213490386
AFAIK this breaks some plotlines and canon from previous movies, so it's best to consider it a parallel universe and not part of the main story.
Anonymous No.213490489 >>213490516 >>213495743
>>213490473
>AFAIK this breaks some plotlines and canon from previous movies
Ridley Scott's prequels are trash and can be thrown away.
Mr. Eko !!5QhhtK5037m No.213490516 >>213490775
>>213490489
Ridley's movies are canon whether you like them or not, Alien Earth might not be. It doesn't just break Prometheus, but Alien/Aliens as well.
Anonymous No.213490775 >>213491231 >>213491893 >>213493598 >>213508531
>>213490516
Bro this isn't a shared universe it's an episode franchise there's no fucking canon
Anonymous No.213491231
>>213490775
why bother then?
Anonymous No.213491287 >>213491521 >>213491539 >>213491662
>>213490285
ripley is the dumbest motherfucker in the series, trying to annihilate all aliens.
xenos should be captured and studied, for scientific and medical purposes, and to learn how to properly combat them.
how do you think starship trooper guys effectively kill bugs? they captured bugs and studied them.
the only problem with the alien series is that all corpos = bad, therefore capture xeno = bad.
Anonymous No.213491315 >>213497654
EGGS!
Anonymous No.213491521 >>213491590
>>213491287
>ripley is the dumbest motherfucker in the series, trying to annihilate all aliens.
retard
Anonymous No.213491539 >>213491630 >>213497144
>>213491287
>xenos should be captured and studied, for scientific and medical purposes, and to learn how to properly combat them.
literally prometheus and covenant you cant contain it
Anonymous No.213491590 >>213491764
>>213491521
how could she possibly annihilate all aliens?
she herself knew that the space jockey ship was not indigenous in lv426, as in it came from somewhere else.
which means the queen inside her in alien 3 could not be the last xeno in existence.
grow some iq, faggot.
Anonymous No.213491630
>>213491539
>you can't contain it
literally on the same level as "military loses to zombie outbreak".
every alien story has some bullshit contrived outbreak reason, because if there's no outbreak, there's no story.
Anonymous No.213491662
>>213491287
SSSSHUUUT UP, WEYLAND *SMACK*
Anonymous No.213491764 >>213491808
>>213491590
she did in Alien 3 the trilogy ended there
Anonymous No.213491786
>>213488345 (OP)
>more alien garbage
Fuck off.
Anonymous No.213491808 >>213491826
>>213491764
she ended the lv426 xeno bloodline.
not the entire xeno species.
Anonymous No.213491826 >>213491866
>>213491808
yea but the entire species is not known to be anywhere else lv426 was the only thing in our universe as far as we know, are you literal double digit iq ?
Anonymous No.213491866 >>213492127
>>213491826
no, you're the actual double digit iq.
i'm arguing for xeno capture. why?
entire species is not known to be anywhere else YET.
the space jockey ship came from SOMEWHERE ELSE.
it's possible that humanity encounters them AGAIN.
are you following with your double digit iq?
Anonymous No.213491893
>>213490775
It's somehow connected to the movies.

Anyway in the series there will be different kind of aliens, not just the xenomorph.
Some Musk/Bezos/hi-tech le evil genius, not much horror but a lot of (boring) talks, just a few action scenes, varius characters watered.
It won't be a good hunt to the xeno on earth as many expect because it isn't an action series, nor a horror one. It's just a little more than fanservice but not as bad and ignorant as Romulus.
Anonymous No.213491931 >>213492158 >>213493393 >>213493505 >>213512238
SHE'S MY WAIFU
I CLAIMED HER FIRST
CHECK THE ARCHIVES
DON'T YOU DARE CLAIM HER BECAUSE SHE'S NOT YOURS
SHE
IS
MINE
Anonymous No.213491932 >>213491992
I can't wait for the entire show to take place in 3 or 4 dark tunnels with a fully sexual/ethnically diverse cast.
Anonymous No.213491992
>>213491932
>a fully sexual/ethnically diverse cast
It gets worse, the main characters are actually terminally ill children whose consciousness was transferred into adult synthetic bodies and the only real adult among them is some constantly brooding negro.
Anonymous No.213492127 >>213492245
>>213491866
now I know your single digit IQ.
im arguing that xeno have only been known to be on lv426 and the prequel planets so far thats it.
WE havent discovered anywhere else even though it has to be somewhere ele, WE havent been shown where or even the xeno homeworld you dumb faggot.
yes humanity can encounter them again but not when alien:earth is set inbetween 1 & 2 timeline you dumb fucking cunt.
are you follwing you dirty paki indian cunt
Anonymous No.213492158
>>213491931
We better get some full frontal and ass focused sex scenes of her.
Anonymous No.213492231 >>213493368
>Aliens? Pssh. I've fought dinosaurs.
Anonymous No.213492245
>>213492127
oh, look, the dumbass is still replying.
how does it feel to be stupid?
>im arguing that xeno have only been known to be on lv426
yes, it's KNOWN to be on lv426, from a KNOWN NON-INDIGINEOUS SHIP.
we don't know where it's FROM. and that's the THREAT of xenos existing elsewhere.
you're a dumbshit loser.
the fact that you keep retroactively bringing future works to the original alien trilogy discussion shows how much of a stupid fuck you are, as if cameron knew they were going to make alien earth in 1985.
Anonymous No.213493368
>>213492231
yuck
Anonymous No.213493393
>>213491931
Ugly brown eyed skull jaw bitch. What the fuck is wrong with jews and their MAN jaws. They look like trannies.
Anonymous No.213493409 >>213494001
>>213490386
>drops Ridley's garbage
So you are saying it actually has a chance to be good?
Anonymous No.213493434
>>213488345 (OP)
Did they already show the alien? I'm guessing within either 15 minutes, the first episode or at the end of the second episode. I'm leaning towards saying they fully revealed it in the 2nd episode. How far off am I?
Anonymous No.213493442 >>213493860
TOO LITTLE
TOO LATE

Earth War already happened and infinitely better.
Anonymous No.213493446
>fargo showrunner

my expectations are now unreasonably high
Anonymous No.213493461
that means 8% of America thought it's shit
Anonymous No.213493464
>>213488345 (OP)
It's not Netflix or Prime, it might actually be good.
Anonymous No.213493505
>>213491931
Anonymous No.213493584 >>213493602
>>213488345 (OP)
>The 2 episode torrents will be out in 5 days.

then why on earth are you making a thread now? Do you like causing blue balls? go away marketing drone
Mr. Eko !!5QhhtK5037m No.213493598 >>213493875
>>213490775
>Bro this isn't a shared universe it's an episode franchise there's no fucking canon

Makes everything meaningless that way.

Movies - absolute canon. Books and comics - canon unless a new movie presents a conflict with the lore, what is on screen supersedes what's written. That's it. Alien has pretty extensive lore if you dig in the books. I'm afraid Earth will be an elseworlds story, because the creator doesn't care about the lore.

Also, Alien, Predator and AvP are three different franchises with different canon and lore. They are separate when it comes to the business entities and trademarks as well.
Anonymous No.213493602
>>213493584
>then why on earth are you making a thread now? Do you like causing blue balls?
yes, balls like the blue earth.

ALIEN: EARTH
Anonymous No.213493665 >>213493681 >>213511193
>>213490406
Hello I know you're paid by the studio to advertise this show here. But on 4Channel we actually really like Prometheus
Anonymous No.213493681
>>213493665
>But on 4Channel we actually really like Prometheus
lol no we don't. we make fun of it.
Anonymous No.213493760 >>213494001 >>213494993
>>213490386
BASED
BASED
BASED
BASED

I will now watch your show.
FUCK SCOTT, SENILE HACK RETARD.
Anonymous No.213493860
>>213493442
The end wan't great.
Anonymous No.213493875 >>213494310 >>213494476
>>213493598
don't mind if some stuff like dates are retconned in the future for a single continuity
mcu had some slipups as well, in guardians 1, gamora was said to be the last of her kind.
but in infinity war, thanos only killed half her people and her planet is thriving.
any retcon is welcome as long as the change is for the better.
Anonymous No.213494001 >>213494219
>>213490406
>>213493409
>>213493760
niggers like you are the reason next alien movie will have more callbacks than romulus
Anonymous No.213494219
>>213494001
Ridley shitting the bed so badly is the reason Romulus is a memberberriesfest instead of an actual movie. And the funny thing is that as bad as that already was, the worst parts were Prometheus amd Covenant call backs
Mr. Eko !!5QhhtK5037m No.213494310
>>213493875
Right. We don't know what will be off, yet, but a lot of stuff can be... massaged into fitting with the timeline. For example, Prometheus was a Weyland ship and mission, before the merger with Yutani, so anything that looks suspicious concerning multiple missions being sent could be explained that way.
Anonymous No.213494476 >>213494511 >>213494607
>>213493875
>any retcon is welcome as long as the change is for the better
Sure but we're talking about a TV show where the aliens are running loose on Earth before LV-426 was discovered here.
Anonymous No.213494511 >>213494641
>>213494476
And that would still be for the better as long as it erases David
Anonymous No.213494607 >>213494641 >>213503109
>>213494476
>aliens are running loose on Earth
it's an enclosed outbreak, not a widescale city invasion.
knowledge of xeno can easily be obfuscated and made classified, especially since it comes along with a variety of other alien creatures.
sure, it may prove problematic that weyyu knows about the xeno before aliens, but that shit has been done in alien isolation.
Anonymous No.213494641 >>213494713 >>213494827
>>213494511
No it wouldn't.
>>213494607
The showrunner has said the aliens eventually escape into the wild.
Anonymous No.213494713
>>213494641
>The showrunner has said the aliens eventually escape into the wild.

They'd take over Earth in months, that's retarded
Anonymous No.213494827 >>213495283
>>213494641
start at 1:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJogdNAzOk
Anonymous No.213494954 >>213495156 >>213495447 >>213503109
the company obviously knew about xenomorphs before Alien, that's why they sent Ripley's ship to LV
Anonymous No.213494993 >>213495112 >>213495143 >>213495292
>>213493760
why would you kill yourself? this scene never made sense as oto what was going on
Anonymous No.213495112
>>213494993
Because Ridley can't write for shit, he can make great work with other people's ideas for sure, but that's a different skill. Seriously, everybody letting him get away with the idea he is the sole creator and owner of Alien is what damaged the franchise the most
Anonymous No.213495143 >>213495515
>>213494993
It's obviously ritual sacrifice.
Anonymous No.213495156
>>213494954
They knew there was a crashed ship. They didn't know about the xenomorphs specifically. Unless you count the games, comics, crossovers, etc. Weyland Yutani are omniscient idiots in the expanded universe.
Anonymous No.213495233
>>213490440
It will be a fun game, and scarier than all the movies, but 0% canon
Anonymous No.213495261
>>213490386
>Drops Ridley's shite

NOW they have my attention.
Anonymous No.213495283 >>213495454
>>213494827
https://www.4chan.org/advertise
Anonymous No.213495292 >>213495433 >>213495546 >>213503251
>>213494993
Prometheus is garbage, I really fucking hate it with a passion, and Scott is a hack, but it was pretty obvious that the dogshit black goo needed a "host", or a "seed" to evolve further. There was something about the DNA of these white niggas being in every single living form on Earth (lmao), and the logic was cuz that retard drank the black goo, and out of his corpse and black goo all life on earth started, or some shit.
Anonymous No.213495433
>>213495292
Me when the diarrhea from White Monster the.
Anonymous No.213495447 >>213495719 >>213503335
>>213494954
They detected an unknown signal that had been repeating for thousands of years. It was the literal first time they sent a ship to investigate and had no idea what they'd find. Ash and Dallas' secret orders were to invesitgate and bring back any alien life found even if it meant sacrificing the crew. At no point was it "hey there are xenomorphs (lol it means unknown alien lifeform but that's what we named them now) on this planet. Yeah I know we've encountered them hundreds of times before but we need to send a really expensive ship to go get them, ensure they don't know anything and we won't send any troops, gotta make sure they have the highest chance of dying, destroying the ship, and failing the mission!" But you dumbshits are desparate to believe that for some reason
Anonymous No.213495454
>>213495283
i was originally gonna go with "trust me bro" but nobody would believe it.
Anonymous No.213495515 >>213495925
>>213495143
what does that even mean, the fucking footage goes on to show his DNA infecting the earth but somehow creating life, but on all the other planets the goo fucking destroyseverything it takes over, makes zero sense science is all over the place on this, and the sacrifice shit is a fucking null point, literally has no meaning or semblance
Anonymous No.213495546 >>213495632 >>213503251
>>213495292
You do realise he had to change it last minute because jews were crying about the jesus anology he was creating, there were a lot and one particular quote that's been buried from one of the early early synopsis where he says it challenges christian and jewish views about jesus and religion and christ being sacrificed, but they changed all of it

this scene in particular was supposed to be some horrific torture of jesus getting massacred but you find out he was an alien or engineer
Anonymous No.213495632
>>213495546
Should just remove the scene altogether then. Engineers being a billions years old race fucks up the scale too much
Anonymous No.213495702
sadly critics say it will be alien slop
:(
Anonymous No.213495719
>>213495447
Ash seemed to have a general idea of what it was from the get go
Anonymous No.213495743
>>213490386
>>213490406
>>213490428
>>213490473
>>213490489
you idiots know we saw the black goo in the Gestation teasers they put out before the first trailer right ?
Anonymous No.213495772 >>213496033
Anonymous No.213495811 >>213496149
acant believe some of yu fags are actually exited for this... i guarantee it will take 10 minutes until we see a lesbian or gay kiss on screen, then a interacial sex scene, then a Trump is le bad reference, then some romatic drama... and we wont see the Alien until season finale.
Anonymous No.213495925
>>213495515
The sacrifice sheds some light on their culture and puts Weyland's demands in perspective.
Anonymous No.213496033 >>213503480
>>213495772
To be honest this alien looks creepy and cute at the same time.

Of course its acting is very insidious.
Anonymous No.213496054 >>213496114 >>213496156
>>213490386
>Canon
Just enjoy the movie/show, retard.
None of it is real.
Anonymous No.213496114 >>213496163 >>213496264
>>213496054
Only retards like you enjoy guzzling non-canon slop. You just drooling mesmerized by the flashing lights and sounds on the screen. None of it meaning anything nor mattering.
Anonymous No.213496149
>>213495811
>already chasing Ghosts .
Anonymous No.213496156
>>213496054
>oy vey, stop asking questions and consoom
Anonymous No.213496163
>>213496114
Except in Alien's case only retards enjoy canon after what Ridley Scott did to it. The only way anything in Alien can mean anything now is if it ignores the canon he made
Anonymous No.213496264
>>213496114
>non-canon slop
Ironic, since claiming XYZ slop being "canon", is how they constantly hook up retards like you with these franchises.
I watch something if it's good, regardless of how it fits into the big 'tard almanac of irrelevant shit.
Anonymous No.213496320
>>213490386
Thank God
Anonymous No.213497093
>>213488345 (OP)
>more girlboss and weak/stupid white male woke stuff
no thank you
Anonymous No.213497144
>>213491539
Why contain it? S'cool.
Anonymous No.213497654
>>213491315
They would not go so smoothly in unless she was troat goat with negative gag reflex.
Drirty slut
Anonymous No.213497763 >>213497838
shant
Anonymous No.213497838
>>213497763
black individual, puh-lease.
when romulus came out, alien threads were being rolled out for days.
but then again, it was probably because of the black goo being integral to the plot.
Anonymous No.213498726
I think it'll be fun
Anonymous No.213499809 >>213499845
>>213490440
wowowut, they’re making that?
Anonymous No.213499845 >>213500620 >>213512973
>>213499809
Yeah, because Romulus did so well. Romulus took everything from Isolation, so it revived interest in making a sequel
Anonymous No.213500620 >>213500875
>>213499845
>Romulus did so well.
ok faggot
Anonymous No.213500875
>>213500620
Kek, seethe and cope, baby
Anonymous No.213502371 >>213502767
>>213488345 (OP)
I'm curious if it'll be multiple seasons or just a one off
Anonymous No.213502767 >>213504134
>>213502371
The creator said he has ideas for 5 seasons, so it depends how successful the first one si
Anonymous No.213502906
>>213488345 (OP)
Inside buzz is legit. Rare show where they spent years tweaking everything like a Xeno itself. Franchise is otherwise dead. Alvarez and that Israeli "American" Badlands doofus are hopeless. Alien: Earth was in the works before DIS bought Fox, just like The Empty Man, the real Weapons iykyk.
Anonymous No.213503109
>>213494954
>>213494607
>knowledge of xeno can easily be obfuscated and made classified
lol at anons bugging. as if israel assassinating jfk, attacking the uss liberty, and doing 9/11 hasn't been compartmentalized, the former dating back half a century. in4 ayylmao and having mirage men on blu
Anonymous No.213503251 >>213503331
>>213495292
>>213495546
ridley is unironically on some nwo religious reset shit. he was initially telling people prometheus is the true story of earth and that he was privy to inside knowledge. tony was far more based although doubtful he could perfect top gun 2 as well as kosinski's miracle. ridley probably endorses the georgia guidestones mandates for depop, he and tony were initiated into the nwo like a cia approved version of the hauser brothers who admittedly did gta in their infamous uk wake.
Anonymous No.213503331
>>213503251
>prometheus is the true story of earth
I think this is more true for Raised by Wolves which some suspect was canceled before it would reveal too much.
Anonymous No.213503335
>>213495447
No different than CIA creating bin Laden in the 80s under Reagan then launching a $10 trillion manhunt and war for his capture after false flagging America for profit to do so. These things happen and are forgotten on Earth.
Anonymous No.213503355
Theres some shit turbo wasp that kills everyone on sight fast isnt it? Maybe the predator will show up, shoot a plasma in cloak like the fag he is and rob a wing to put in the shelf so the fans can have a wank.
Other creatures are a meme mind control octopus, a slug and a bunch of xenos.
Engineers and the bug shitters that build predator technology should not show up (if they do the show is fucked) since they are meant to be rare AF.
Anonymous No.213503379
>>213490386
Based
Anonymous No.213503480
>>213496033
i keep saying this but hes gunna steal the show
Anonymous No.213504134 >>213504377 >>213505211
>>213502767
A 5 season Alien show. Can't imagine that working out without just retreading the same stuff kek
Mr. Eko !!5QhhtK5037m No.213504377
>>213504134
In the trailers they mention it's the first of five ships. Each season could be dealing with a different ship and whatever wonders (horrors) it has brought back.
Anonymous No.213505211
>>213504134
I am all for retreading if it also makes the colonial marines return
Anonymous No.213505305 >>213505383
>>213490386
>non-canon slop
Sounds more like they're gonna make it in the same canon as Predator Badlands if they're talking pararells
Anonymous No.213505383 >>213505407
>>213505305
Does that mean a proper AvP movie that isn't set in present day is possible?
Anonymous No.213505407
>>213505383
Possibly, suppose it all comes down to how well Badlands ends up doing
Anonymous No.213505741 >>213505895 >>213508560
Personally I'd like the franchise to move past Alien Resurrection already.
We've what? Had 15-20 years of prequels/pre-sequels depending on what you class AVP
Anonymous No.213505895 >>213506034
>>213505741
Why would they "most past" something non-canon? The story canonically stopped at Aliens. It should be picked up around a decade after for best effect. That's literally where all fans enjoy the series most and want more of.
Anonymous No.213506034
>>213505895
Ridley is butthurt over Cameron's vision being so popular so as long as retarded suits keep humoring his pretending to be the owner of the franchise, no Aliens sequel will happen
Anonymous No.213506944 >>213508057 >>213510385
>>213490386
so does that mean that now there are 2 timelines?

Ridley timeline
>Everything up to Romulus
New Timeline
>Everything up to Romulus EXCEPT Prometheus and Covenant
?
Anonymous No.213507930
>>213490386
>just turn your brain off bro
Anonymous No.213508057
>>213506944
There's like five time lines
Anonymous No.213508152 >>213509063
New trailer released. Something about a tour de force
Anonymous No.213508531
>>213490775
You see, I would be there with you
I would be ok with an Alien v Green Lantern slop, Alien v Spawn, or whatever other mindless fun slop.
But then... if the main character is a short haired girl that saves the day... you are kinda playing really really really hard to that little thing you say you didn't wanted to relate and you don't want people to pay attention to
Anonymous No.213508560
>>213505741
AVP 1 is canon and good
AVP 2 is trash and slop
Anonymous No.213509063
>>213508152
Will there be Jedi xenos?
Anonymous No.213509604
Anonymous No.213509964 >>213510186 >>213510223 >>213510260
>>213488345 (OP)
Just finished watching Romulus and it's one of the worst films I have seen recently aside from the cute lead actress. Surprised that it is rated higher than Prometheus and Covenant. For all their problems, they were better films which at least took risk and had some originality with David.
Anonymous No.213510091
8 fucking episodes? What the fuck are the AI people doing, just crank out 20+ episodes and AI the fuck out of everything with studio funded supercomputers
Anonymous No.213510186
>>213509964
Prometheus and covenant are not alien films. They are also not finished and don't tell a complete story. Romulus is far better than them in every respect.
Anonymous No.213510223
>>213509964
How good was the bridge scene where she kills 5 aliens
Anonymous No.213510260
>>213509964
>Be Bong.
>Watch Alien film.
>Within first 10 minutes I'm hit with listening to roadmen accents.
I refuse to accept London still exists in 2142
Anonymous No.213510385
>>213506944
U RETARDS DONT REMEMBER THE BLACK GOO IN THE FUCKING GESTATION VIDEOS
Anonymous No.213510876
Cheeky cunts have even been using Prometheus dialogue in recent ads (pic is followed by β€œand it’s heading for Earth”)
Anonymous No.213511193
>>213493665
>But on 4Channel we actually really like Prometheus
Anonymous No.213512238
>>213491931
Siiiiimp!
Anonymous No.213512973 >>213513196
>>213499845
I still can't believe we are getting a sequel to Isolation.
What a time to be alive
Anonymous No.213513196 >>213513411
>>213512973
I just can't see how it will be any good. Not if they keep using Amanda and turn her into the same shitty action heroine. If they pick a new main character maybe, but we all know they won't
Anonymous No.213513411 >>213513454
>>213513196
>Axel
>gets impaled, as if he were a wheel that could be spun on an "Axle" (in this case the xenomorph's tail spur)
>Marlow
Appearance gets "Marred" by an explosion which lays him Low
>Kuhlman
>would have been "cool" if not cold after being killed by the medical deck xenomorph
>Lingard
actually I'm tired of this now
Anonymous No.213513454 >>213513843
>>213513411
Samuels was a bro. He should have been in Romulus
Anonymous No.213513843
>>213513454
Anything but the deepfake Ian Holm
Paddy Considine I heard was supposed to have occupied the role at some point maybe he was supposed to be Samuels
Anonymous No.213513978
>>213490386
Ridley Slop BTFO kek
Anonymous No.213514015
>>213488345 (OP)
you guys are so cute

hope dies last I guess

there will be NO MORE KINOs

that ship has sailed a long time ago

just jew slop until they run out of money or right wingers finally make art again, right wing billionaires don't care about art or culture, fucking penny pinching cunts