Thread 213498794

Superman will drop below 3,000 theaters in its 5th weekend starting tomorrow. North American run will lose 617 locations (17% of current total) with theater count falling from 3,537 to 2,920.

And it's at a measly 562 million right now. Thing are not looking good. 650 million never ever. It will never break even (700M). MOS has officially won.

>>213498794 (OP)
But how does this revive the snyderverse?

>>213498828
It doesn't restore it, but it sure as fuck vindicates it.

>>213498794 (OP)
It didn't need to beat Snyder, this was about restoring the brand

>>213498794 (OP)
>>213498847
GOOD MORNING, SAAR!

>>213498794 (OP)
And it hits digital next week. It's over over

>>213498865
>this was about restoring the brand
20th vers same as the first

>>213498847
>it sure as fuck vindicates it.
Can you post the Justice League numbers again?

>>213498847
Murderman is still shit

>>213498794 (OP)
Man, this place is useless. First, before the movie came out, people were saying it looks awful, and I'm not going to see it, and it's going to flop, and then it came out, and everyone was raving about it, and now everyone's saying it's going to flop again. Can someone just tell me if this is worth watching?

>>213498794 (OP)
The biggest disaster since Cleopatra 1963

Flopping is the new punk rock

>>213498946
It already flopped but WB can't admit they fucked up for the shareholders. It's the Kathleen Kennedy situation

>>213498919
You mean the global phenomenon?

>>213498847
Does it really? The snyderverse was alive at peak of capeshit optimism. The fact that it managed to burn people's good will and did similar numbers as this reboot (which came out after capeshit fatigue set in) is not a good look. It wasn't a good look back then (dc was a laughingstock next to marvel) and it isn't now in retrospect either.

>>213498998
Disney had total control of the media back then. That's why every DC movie was called the Trump of movies and the journalists literally begged the readers to don't see DC movies

>>213498983
The movie made 660M on a 300M budget, it had an estimated break-even point of as much as $750 million, Deadline Hollywood reported that the film lost the studio around $60 million.
>B-but the Snydercut
Instead of to finish the Darkseid shit he made the movie again, it went direct to video btw.

>>213498946
Do you like Guardians of the Galaxy?

>>213499079
Or snyder killed DCEU with Batman v Superman being so shit

>>213499106
Right which is why every movie between it and Shazam kept making more and more money

>>213498998
When people look back at the superhero trend most of the MCU will blur together while the Snyder Trilogy will be re-evaluated as a masterpiece, just like what happened with the Star Wars preqvels.

>>213498847
>but it sure as fuck vindicates it.
Man of Steel made less than the funny raccoon & tree movie and the worst Spider-Man sequel btw.

>>213499250
No one has ever or will ever think the prequels are anything other than God awful shit

>>213499276
And Gunn's Superman made less than that

>>213499090
>Ooooh, right in the kryptonite!
>Krypto covers eyes with paw

>>213499284
POOFTER

Supergirl is DOA. No DCU Batman until Reeves trilogy is over. No Wonder Woman script yet.

Wow.

>>213499314
Man of Steel was released during peak capeshit years btw.
>>213499250
>When people look back
Two more weeks until the Snyderverse is looked back fondly.

>broken even
>BTFO'd three marlel movies
>sequel already announced
Why are mousesaars so bad at coping?

>>213498946
You've probably spent more time agonizing about it than it would take to watch the movie.

>>213499332
>I don't care what Universe you're from, that's gotta hurt!

>>213499555
Is this legit? Too retarded even for Gunn.

>>213499469
>sequel already announced
Gotta love DCucks and their goldfish memory

>>213499601
Holy Kek

>>213498794 (OP)

Man of Steel lost more theaters and faster: it was in 2,905 theaters after just 22 days (Superman 2025 had 3,537) and 2,150 after 29, when in 2013 there was more request of superguys.

Why do you continuosly lie?

Gunnsisters.....

>>213499769
That's not the flex you think it is, anon. If Man of Steel lost more theaters and faster and still made more than Superman 2025, then that's bad.

>>213499971
That's not a flex either, considering Man of Steel lost theaters faster during a time when even Ant-Man made over $500m and shit like BvS could make $800m and still be considered a failure.

>>213498946
The people raving about it were shills who left after they realized there was no salvaging the movie, first hype cycle? Happens with every popcorn flick

>>213499079
Not even the Fox-men were safe from this, X-Men Apocalypse was unironically better than plenty of marvel offerings that got better reviews, the scene with the nukes was pure kino

>>213499786
>clay travis
Literally who?

>>213499399
Do you think they'll fast-track The Batman 3? If they start writing the script now it could be done by next year and they could have the movie out by 2028.

>>213499593
No, it's AI, notice how he doesn't have paws proper but rather stumps

>>213499079
Nice persecution complex. I guess the entire world decided to drop BvS the next weekend because of Trump. If we go by this logic, Gunn is right on blaming Trump for Superman (2025) not doing well WW either.

>>213500217
Maybe. I could see Gunn being frustrated and wanting to start his DCU Batman run as soon as possible for guaranteed money because it's not looking good right now.

It's concerning how long it will take to get to Justice League.

This is the most brown thread I’ve ever seen

>>213499399
Gunn is literally doing everything he can to kill Reeves' Batverse. If Reeves hadn't tweeted that photo of the script Gunn would've kept saying it wasn't done yet so they just moved on.

>>213500668
Fat pig hands typed this.

>>213500385
>It's concerning how long it will take to get to Justice League
The slates have always been meaningless. They're fast-tracking Wonder Woman for a reason. We'll have a Justice League by 2027

>>213498828
rent free

>>213500788
Based dubs of truth.

>>213498794 (OP)
>Easiest win of my life
>Feels good to be a Snyder Chad

>>213499601
WW84 made $169 million with a $200 million budget while superman will end up making $680-700 million when it finishes its run. Also unlike WW84, superman has a certified fresh score and over 90% verified RT score. So it's a critical and financial success. And James gunn confirmed he is in the process of writing the next superman related movie.

>>213498794 (OP)
How can this happen?

>>213498828
It's simple. First superman bombs, then WB loses so much money Discovery sells them off to avoid bankruptcy, New studio (probably Universal) sees the demand for more snyderverse, snyderverse is restored, ayercut is released, and the batfleck movie gets made!

>>213500979
>superman will end up making $680-700 million when it finishes its run.
Superman literally finishes his run next week

Superman is highest domestic Superman movie ever and will end close to The Batman at around 360 million. It has almost the same overseas numbers in UK, France, Ireland and Australia as MOS. Only countries it’s bombing in is Asian and the biggest being China who has shutout all capeshit . Maybe the fact Superman didn’t eat his dog triggered the bug people

>>213498794 (OP)
Good. I got so much entertainment from this trash flopping.

>>213498794 (OP)
Man of Steel didn't even make 700m and that was before he got character assassinated for years

>>213499601
You ignored the other two points tho marvelsaar

>>213499441
Superman is a long-running movie franchise since 1948 and isn't affected by trends like "peak capeshit years." Same for Batman and Spider-Man

>>213501084
Now I know you’re an idiot. Not hitting single until the end of August which is 45 days and the norm now

>>213501041
You jest but Man of Steel 2 would have unironically done better, 700m minimum

>>213501172
The digital announcement is happening next week at which point no one is going to the theater

>>213501041
No one's going to buy WB now that they're the leading studio by market share (thanks to superBVLL btw), people buy low and sell high not the other way around

>>213501162
Batman Begins only made 300 million off a 150 million budget. It only made 30 million its opening weekend, that’s how little interest people had jn another Batman movie after Batman & Robin. The Batman only made 790 million when The Dark Knight and Rises both made a billion. No Superman movie has ever made a billion

>>213501191
>Man of Steel 2 would have unironically done better, 700m minimum
It would depend on who's in charge. If it was someone Snyder hired, then maybe, but if it was anyone from the Johns/Hamada era it would have been the exact same garbage as the last 10 DC movies

>disneyshills pretending to be snydertroons because marvel has lost $300 million just in 2025 with their capeflops and the only capeslop that has broken even is superman
New lows everyday, it's all pajeets at the end of the day but still pathetic

>>213501240
WB is barely a percent ahead and has literally nothing left to make money. While Disney has Zoo2pia and Avatar and Universal has FNAF2, Wicked part 2, Black Phone 2, Downtown Alley part final, and more

WBD is dead this year

>>213501207
Cope. You jeets have been wrong on everything. Many people will still go out to watch Superman. 680+ million is guaranteed before end of August. Superman already broke even and is profitable here on out. It's a critical and financial success while snyderverse is dead.

>>213501191
No it wouldn’t have. A movie that drops 67% its second weekend doesn’t do better unless there is a major overhaul. Ang Lee’s Hulk dropped 69% and the next Hulk movie bombed because nobody was interest in seeing another Hulk movie. Studios are well aware of this and why they demanded Batman in the follow up. Can bet Marvel is in panic mode with F4 dropping big it’s second weekend yet stuck because of Doomsday

>>213500979
High RT score and certified fresh mean jackshit. Just ask Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four flops. The Marvels has fresh rating.

>>213501497
Superman is a critical AND financial success. Peacemaker 2 coming out soon. Supergirl next year. Gunn writing the next superman related movie. Zaslav is excited for more DCU. The future is bright for DCU while the snyderverse is dead and rebel moon is dead. DChads won.

>>213501497
And superman outperformed all of these

>>213501658
Go to sleep Gunn.

>>213501658
Plus its not like they were gonna get to pre-covid numbers anyway, getting in the top 30 alone is achievement enough in my eyes. Hell, why do we even measure movies worth by box office numbers alone these days?

>>213501249
TB was a divisive movie released when theaters weren't at 100%.Batman & Robin wasn't a bomb, and Batman Begins made twice as much. A superhero debut is almost never a huge hit (unless it's an Avengers cliffhanger). And longtime franchises usually perform as expected regardless of "trends"

>>213501695
Nothing I said was incorrect, seething jeet.
>>213501700
And DC has beaten 3 MCU movies. DCU off to an incredible start. Zaslav is very happy.

>>213501658
>Zaslav is excited for more DCU
Zaslav will literally say anything to shareholders to keep his paycheck going long enough to sell WB

>>213501815
I'm honestly just happy people are realizing this properties can be cool again. I'm tired of capeslop and popnihlarthouseslop, bring on the hopium

>>213501732
Just because a movie is a financial success doesn’t mean people didn’t hate it. Hype and spectacle of Arnold and Uma and Clooney being in it got people to go but it was widely hated and ridiculed. Why the WB put Batman on ice because they knew the brand was tarnished. Begins rebuilt it just like Superman is doing. According to morons on this thread, Begins should’ve never gotten a sequel because it didn’t make three times over its budget or as much as Batman Forever with muh adjusted for inflation

>>213501860
It's honestly embarrassing how DCucks keep trying to shove their shit into Marvel

Snyderbros… we never got to see Batman cuck Superman in theaters. We were robbed…

>>213501908
Anon i've been a fan of both ips since i was 12, can a man not feel joy anymore?

>>213501860
>>213501908
>>213501947
Where's Goku?

>>213501903
why are people so obsessed with financial success regarding art these days anyway? it basically shuts down all discussion beyond monetary

>>213501982
The movies have no artistic value anyway. They ONLY have a monetary value.

>>213498902
>this list
Roblox OOF (slowed + reverb).mp3

>>213501474
It's been a long time, movies that were moderate successes back in the day can have sequels that make gangbusters, deadpool and wolverine outgrossed both previous movies, inside out 2 did much better than the first one despite being a worse movie, sams goes for moana and the lilo & stitch remake, both cavill and snyder have an established cult following, while Gunn's DCU still has to prove itself

>>213502026
I mean, everything has some artistic value dude.
Like Superman has a very strong message and thematic throughline of being kind in a world for a cruelty and to inspire others to fight against injustice. Even if it's capeshit they can still have something to say.

>>213502090
*Full of
brb killing myself

>>213498794 (OP)
At least they tried something new.

>>213501973
Goku one shots these pieces of shit.

>>213501908
Considering they had to spam Spiderman BTS to distract F4 flopping compared to Superman lmao

>>213502034
What are you talking about? Deadpool 2 made almost 800 million. You add Jackman coming back as Wolverine it was a no brainer it was going make over a billion

It's insane people have yet to realize this is the new normal, we aren't going to see precovid numbers ever again until there is a major societal shift to people going outside again

>>213501947
You can. Just stop being pathetic.

>>213502090
>I mean
>Like

>>213502249
can you add goku

>>213500773
It's true that reeves is the one getting fucked over in this situation, but that's not the whole story.
>matt reeves keeps getting blocked by zaslav and james gunn, with the excuse of the latter wanting to use reeves' ideas for his own batman, one being clayface, completely stolen and reworked to fit into the new DCEU.
>the penguin, a show that was too late into production to get canceled by gunn and zaslav, ended up being a huge commercial and critical success, while creature commandos, the real first entry of the new DCEU, flopped.
>james gunn's initial line up of projects, like the authority, waller, sgt rock, buster gold and paradise lost get delayed if not directly cancelled.
>later, WB finally gets superman's internal tracking info and they realize that the movie, despite spending a lot of money on the barbie-like marketing, it's not going to get even close to breaking a billion, and that it probably will struggle to even catch up to MoS and the batman part 1 final box office results.
>knowing the optics of this, they order james gunn to immediately do damage control on a variety interview claiming the movie doesn't need to hit 700M to be successful.
>the script of the batman part 2 suddenly gets announced
>now it's being rumored that the batman part 2 will feature robin, an idea james gunn already hinted at for his own batman
so my theory of this clusterfuck is that james gunn and zaslav finally decided to take control of the batman and force reeves to agree to the changes gunn wants, this would result in firing robert pattinson and reeves at the end of part 2, recasting batman and maybe keeping robin's actor using the multiverse, which is coincidentally the plot of peacemaker 2

>>213502404
>Doesn't have a counter argument
>Attacks character
Every time man.

>>213502456
why the fuck are they introducing the multiverse at the start

>>213502456
>source: dude trust me

>>213502492
I didn't even read your argument.

>>213502534
To set up the crisis for DC Endgame

>>213502534
Same reason they want a shared cinematic universe, because Marvel's doing it.

>>213498946
>raving
lol, no. it was very mid.

>>213502159
Movie cost 360 for everything
. 170-175 to make 180-185 on marketing
You can go 180 times 2.5 or combine.
I think people aren't aware James Gunn made it for that cheap and they knew not to market certain places that hard
It's the batman begins of a trilogy more or less.

I'm not trying to deflect but the fantastic four flop is really bad. They can't recast until killing them and it's hard to fuck up the fantastic four new with the technology available but they did. Johnny was boring and short and smol. The thing was depressed. Sue isn't hot.

>>213499441
It was peak Marvel, retard. You point to the box office but then deflect when it turns out the box office for nuSupes is even worse than before. Deadpool and Spiderman still make a billion, faggot.

>>213502534
because they started without an actual plan, like it happened to disney with star wars. james gunn pitched a bunch of random ideas after superman that weren't real projects, and he also wanted to keep certain people around, so he's already fucking with his own continuity just to have his wife, john cena and his brother around.
I'd say that the two major mistakes he's going to regret are
>making jor el evil
because he will have to spend the next kryptonian related projects constantly covering potential plotholes.
>bringing the multiverse and weird continuity
which has proven to cause people to lose interest if they have to do homework to understand what's going on.

>>213499786
Superman and F4 are just boring IPs, why doesn't anyone ever call them out on it instead of blaming the entire genre? If all they did was pump out spiderman and batman movies there would be no "death of capeslop" announcements.

>>213502837
>"they can't recast until killing them"
something something soft reboot, something something secret wars

>>213500065
It's not the flex you think it is, comparing peak Marvel to a poorly planned DCEU only to turn around and defend another poorly planned DCU that is actually doing worse now than before.

>>213503010
This "poorly planned" DCU is making more than the MCU nowadays, it has crushed three different movies with comparable budgets just this year

>>213498794 (OP)
I'm happy it did okay, superman is kind of a hard sell

>>213503055
*three different MARVEL movies

>>213500279
Honestly what killed BvS was the toilet fight scene, MARTHA and the shitty monster at the end. Otherwise it was kino.

>>213503080
Fact it’s doing great in the US is all that matters. Asians don’t like it oh well

>>213500991
People are just sick and tired of jews.

We did it, Snyderbros. Justice League II any day now

>>213501474
Doomsday isn't a Fag4 sequel. Though it does seem to rely heavily on a bunch of failed new characters.

>>213498794 (OP)
It is quite grim that it didn't beat MoS

>>213501700
>muh covid
Shut the fuck up with this "new normal" cope, there are still billion dollar movies. Even Avatar 2 made a couple billion.

>>213503215
It did better in the US; UK and other white countries while underperforming in others because of Trump. They should be happy to have the highest grossing capeshit of the year despite being boycotted by so many brownoids

>>213503215
MoS didn't beat Superman 78. Fucking grim

>>213501982
>what is commercial art
They aren't doing these for free, idiot. Movies are a business. Idiot.

>>213503138
This. Who cares if American theaters get a bigger percentage of the profits gross than overseas ones and that that percentage grows the longer a movie plays on their screens. America is the bestest country in the world

>>213503185
Just two more weeks

>>213503138
if only the domestic box office matters, why did they spend so much money flying the cast all over the world and doing a bunch of international press coverage, then? Yes, it's good that the movie did good in the us, but it's clearly a failure if it's barely doing better domestically than MoS, a movie that came out more than a decade ago.

>>213503339
You're factoring in inflation like a cuck while >>213503215 isn't like a chad

>>213502211
>no brainer
Yet Feige deliberately tried to sabotage it by telling Hugh Jackedman not to do it, lol

>>213502249
Combining these two boring IPs somehow makes them even more boring. Ick.

>>213503369
>Movies are a business
Nice try moron but no one has literally ever called it the "entertainment business" or "movie business". It's all about making movies for the love of cinema. THAT'S why everything is original and definitely not a sequel, reboot, adaptation, or remake.

>>213503206
Is’t F4 a big part of Doomsday and why Marvel went all out on F4 because wee suppose to build up interest in Doomday

>>213503390
>Being wrong on purpose like a Chad

>>213502452
No because I didn't make it. Some sad DCuck did because he wants to get in with the cool kids.

>>213503435
Yes, hilariously

>>213503455
can you add him though

>>213503479
No. Go download Lynda for photoshop and do it yourself

>>213502737
NuSupes is cheesed af, you cant compare to Batman Begins because people are not going to flock to cheesy gay shit the same way they did to Dark Knight which was refreshingly adult themed.

>>213503389
Superman is an American brand. Most merchandise, comics and shit come form the US. If the box office was flipped and it was bombing in the US but doing well overseas the WB would not be happy. It is not sustainable. Jurassic World denise is having this problem. Domestically it’s falling big. They paid Scarlet Johansson 20 million to try and boost domestic sales, it didn’t work. Last two JW movies both made a billion, this one didn’t. And not going to again if domestic keeps falling

>>213502922
to be fair, it was less multiverse multiverse and more just a pocket dimension

>>213503055
So now it's a race to the bottom? Beating Marvel now when Marvel has self imploded is a major cope, especially when it failed to beat Snyder MoS. All I see is cope.

>>213503546
Literally the entire plot of season 2 of peacemaker is them crossing over into the DCU

>>213503535
Batman Begins was also not the start to an entire fucking cinematic universe with 10 films all with different heroes and crossovers.

You have to be delusional to think WB is okay with Superman only making 625 to 635 WW when they weren't happy with MOS making 670.

>>213503215
It is.

>>213503435
I mean it's not a direct sequel and with all the announced characters they will get lost in the sauce. You were talking about solo Hulk movies. Not really the same thing.

>>213503624
Yeah, but not the movie, which we are talking about and most people will watch

>>213503543
So again, why spend money on promoting it worldwide if it's not important and just keep it local? It would have reduced its budget a lot
>>213503546
Peacemaker is the one going hard on the multiverse, it's already mentioning that there are 100 different universes or something like that, and showing him finding his own DCU version.

>>213502846
>>213503010
>i-it was peak Marvel not peak capeshit
New snydercope dropped

>>213503055
>>213503578
It says more about the MCU being rock bottom so far.

>>213503138
>doing grear
Not really, if it's barely beating out an imploding MCU and lost to MoS without even adjusting for inflation. Cope harder faggot.

>>213503683
They're going to have to watch Peacemaker if they want to understand what happens next. Not to mention Peacemaker was IN Superman

>>213503710
How was it peak capeshit when DCU was struggling the whole time to catch up to Marvel? Clearly it was peak MCU only and now that MCU sucks you retards are coping hard that gay superman is barely beating a dead brand, lol

Are we ignoring the fact that multiverse fatigue was a whole thing? people will get the concept and so long as the story itself is good and interesting people will watch.

>>213498946
>Can someone just tell me if this is worth watching?
Do you like Superman/DC? Then yeah, it's worth watching. It's a solid Superman story. Similar story beats as Superman Vs The Elite.
>Superman's popularity waning
>too wholesome, not badass
>Guy Gardner GL, Mr Terrific and Hawkgirl are the badasses regular folks start to root for
>They don't care about collateral like Supes does
>Lex Luthor tarnishes Supe's reputation further
>Luthor is also manipulating Metamorpho

>>213503814
People liked the multiverse in Spiderman, got hyped for the Dr Strange sequel except it turned into a lesbian drama instead. And the Flash movie was retarded, otherwise the multiverse would have been kino.

>>213498794 (OP)
>Can't discuss Superman without Snyder being brought up by people that should be happy to not have to bring him up
This movie sucked fucking dick

>>213498946
>Can someone just tell me if this is worth watching?
if you liked All-Star Superman (the comic) or Justice League Unlimited/the Bruce Timm DC animated universe stuff, you'll probably like it. It's a very faithful and earnest Superman story played entirely straight without the constant irony-poisoned attempts at """""deconstructing"""" the character or being a shitty edgelord knockoff (Homelander, Omni-Man, Injustice, etc). Nathan Fillion is a great Guy Gardner, Rachel Brosnahan is a good Lois who is believably infatuated with both Clark and Superman and their chemistry is actually present unlike Amy Adams who felt more like Superman's autistic caretaker than any love, passion, or god forbid eroticism in their relationship.

Pirate it first if you can't decide it's worth a theater trip but it's definitely the best capeshit movie in a while

>>213502846
Suicide Squad made more than Man of Steel, whereas Aquaman was the only DCEU movie to hit a billion.
I thought your lot bragged about how Snyder's DCEU was as popular as Marvel during those years, but now we must treat MoS with gloves because only Marvel was popular during that time????

>>213499399
World's Finest just got announced at San Diego CC

i e synder jeets

>>213499106
>snyder killed DCEU
I disagree. Ultimate Edition was much better. I've been saying this for nearly 15 years now but WB is ran by meddling retards.

>>213503535
>cheesy gay shit
But that's what people want from Batman. One of the biggest complaints about modern Batman is that it's too dark and serious, unlike the Adam West Batman.

>>213501700
>why do we even measure movies worth by box office numbers alone these days?
I'm no economist but my guess would be because going to the kinoplex is expensive nowadays. Took my family to Superman a couple weekends ago. Just 3 of us. 2 adults and 1 kid. Did 3 drinks, 1 large popcorn and a bag of gummy candy for the kid. >$100. People don't want to drop that kind of cash anymore for ~2hrs of entertainment and snacks with a 1000% markup.

>>213498794 (OP)
>Superman

More like Subparman

>>213504390
Which is why Spider-Man NWH got $1.9 billion and Deadpool 3 got $1.3 billion.

>>213499090
>Darkseid sticks his head through a portal
>Ooooohhhh... even for me, that's a bit much
>Zack Snyder walks by in the background and pumps his fist
>Krypto whimpers and covers his eyes with his paw
>RIGHT IN THE DAILY PLANETS!!!!
This should have been 1A

>>213501815
>And DC has beaten 3 MCU movies
Don't forget that DC also ran circles around Marvel for over 80 years too. The '10s were Marvel, for sure. But outside of Spider-Man and to a lesser extent X-Men. Hell, just look at the 90s-00s. DCAU still holds up. Marvel's cartoons don't.

>>213504624
Right which is why the DCAU got a reboot series and shit like the X-Men cartoon didn't

>>213504624
>Marvel's cartoons don't.
Earth's Mightiest Heroes does but Disney were retarded and shitcanned it for no reason

>>213504829
X-Men got 72 episodes and lasted 5 ('92-'97) years before getting cancelled.
DCAU got 400+ episodes and lasted 15 years ('92-'07).
Marvel animated universe had 2 shows worth talking about, Spider-Man TAS and X-Men.
Every DCAU show was a hit and fondly remembered except Zeta Project.

>>213498828
OP never brought up snyderverse.

>>213505149
>X-Men got 72 episodes and lasted 5 ('92-'97) years before getting cancelled.

Here’s how you know this thing was a flop. Gunn needs to stay off Twitter.

>>213505180
He didn’t need to. They’re only ones spamming this massive cope along with “I’m a flop”

>>213505222
He can't. It's where he gets his ideas

>>213498946
>and it's going to flop
Already happened internationally.

>>213505222
Not domestically. It best MOS last week and Rebirth. Cope harder you third world street shitter

>>213504169
>Ultimate Edition was much better
No, it wasn't

>>213505280
> Already happened internationally.

Only in Asian countries so who cares. They’re likely triggered Superman didn’t eat the dog

>>213505222
He's desperate for validation sad pedo fuck.

>>213503535
Superman is a boyscout, edgyboy. People are tired of evil edgy superman

>>213505342
And you can tell they're tired of it because of how this one made a billion

>>213498946
Honest answer. If arent already sick of the tone of the GOTG movies you might like it. Me personally didnt care for it as soon as I left the theater. Man of Murder stuck with me far longer than this flick did.

I wish we could count ticket sales instead of dollar amount.

>>213503881
ALL cartoon versions of Superman have him acting stoic. Dont know where this comparison is coming from. If anything, animated Supes is more like Snyder's version.

>>213505289
>muh domestic number HURR DUUR
Literally who the fuck cares? Hollywood only gives a shit about worldwide totals over the long term, which is what they were mainly banking on you fucking idiot.

Gunn has some severe mental issues

>>213505374
What shirhole country you from? Let me guess, India

>>213505522
Gunn is an egotistical jackets who needs constant online validation... and how does that work with the Flash and Aquaman cameos in season 1?

>>213505441
>stoic.
not remotely like the wannabe Vegeta in Man of Steel, who's more fitting in Snyder's 300 than any Superman adaptation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7cD5cIEPGQ
DCAU Superman is a leader and is much more experienced than 2025 Superman (intentionally so, there's not even a Justice League or even a Batman yet, this is more like early golden age superman when he was still figuring out his powers), but he still had heart and valued compassion above all else

>>213505491
Go look at numbers faggot. Little differed between MOS and Supernan in UK, France, Australia. Only markets it’s bombed in was Asian. MOS made 60 million in China. China has shutout all capeshit this year. You faggots said F4 would dominate in China and it bombed even harder

>>213505525
Gunnsaar...

>>213505615
Deadpool did well in China. Gunnjeets are sore losers. Without the India boost, WalMartMan would flop even harder.

>>213500279
>Nice persecution complex.

>>213505522
>the conspiracy nut and meathead veteran raised by a literal white-dragon KKK member supervillain believes a bunch of batshit theories about other superheroes
why is this a bad thing? it's basically the Question's paranoia but from someone a lot more stupid and less inquisitive, so instead of "THE PLASTIC TIPS AT THE ENDS OF SHOELACES ARE CALLED AGLETS, THEIR TRUE PURPOSE IS SINISTER!" it's "AQUAMAN FUCKS FISH!" and while Question is 50% schizo paranoia and 50% deep hidden truth of the universe, Peacemaker is like 95% 5% with him being inadvertently correct about some crazy government glowie shit under Waller

>>213505522
he's trying so hard to force peacemaker as a deadpool type of character, unfortunately, you only do that once you have a strong foundation, so that you can play with this type of characters as jokes only, but using him to introduce the multiverse is a terrible idea.

>>213505615
>China has shutout all capeshit this year.
>selectively memoryholes Deadpool + Venom

>>213505661
>India
You are really trying huh snyderjeet

>>213498794 (OP)
Rick Worley already explained why you're wrong and why Snyderfags will always be seething.

>>213505661
And Mos was released during peak hollywood in china and russia..now watch Snyderjeets suck china dick

>>213505698
Gunn is a sex obsessed pedophile pervert.

>>213505747
It was peak Hollywood I agree. Now there is only slop, which even audiences have caught on.

>>213505785
No, it was peak hollywood popularity, jeet

>>213505712
also deadpool is more the type to make a 4th wall breaking deep cut to some comic character's embarrassing history or past flops rather than completely fabricated conspiracy theories. Like him shitting on the Inhumans being a flop

>>213505821
Superman 78 made $1.4B adjusted for inflation

>>213503881
Nigga, i read those comics and watched those cartoons. The movie is nothing like them. If anything, it feels like a shitty MCU movie with random actors playing DC characters. But badly. Nathan sucked as Guy. He's 60 years old and he's playing a young guy role.

I'm just like not going to watch your shitty capeslop and you're going to go bankrupt ok lol

>>213505911
>y. He's 60 years old and he's playing a young guy role.
guy is not a "young" role, he's been a pigheaded middle aged pervert and loser who's a walking reminder that "Extreme Willpower=/=Extreme Intelligence or Morality" for literal decades

>>213505661
Who was present last year? Where we in a trade war with China last year? F4 should not have bombed like it did in China. It should’ve made atleast 10-12 million regardless of quality not 4 million and ranked 5th behind four chink movies they flooded the theaters with opening weekend

>>213505698
>tfw have been kept up late into the night pondering what Question meant about the sinister aglet

>>213505589
MoS Supes was obviously Goku and Zod was obviously Vegeta.

>>213498828
>But how does this revive the snyderverse?
It doesn't. It will mean another reboot soon. It's normal with Superman. Get used to it.

>>213505821
Still fired

>>213501903
Begins only got a sequel because the movie made a lot of money on physical media.

>>213506209
goku actually smiles and has a good time fighting. it's more like vegeta vs raditz.

>>213505698
let's be honest, DCAU Question is just Rorschach

>5th weekend
>Still not at 600M WW
>617 Theaters dropping it in the US

How did it lose to fucking MOS

Jesus Christ this is terrible

>>213506233
And the Snydercut still exists. A 4-hour revenge cut he filmed in SECRET right under the retard executives noses. The Snyder trilogy and Watchmen are the greatest superhero movies ever made. I knew the first time i left a showing of BvS, that the age of capeshit was over. Snyder and Terrio raised the bar.

>>213498828
It doesn't, only SnAIder can.

>>213506253
Nah its Vegeta. Raditz was narrative fodder. And Goku may be all smiles in his downtime, but during fights he's super serious or he gives a determined smirk.

>>213505698
Because The Question was an interesting character and his crazy ideas dealt with conspiracies that proved real in the cartoon, leaving you to guess just how many of his ludicrous ideas were also real?

>>213503842
>>Superman's popularity waning
>>too wholesome, not badass
>>Guy Gardner GL, Mr Terrific and Hawkgirl are the badasses regular folks start to root for
Huh? This wasn't the story

>>213506061
Guy is a forever 30 year old guy in the comics, you dipshit.

>>213506302
he's not a virgin and actually knows how to work with a team so he's not really rorschach, he does have a bit of a Mr. A "A is A" objectivist speech when he's trying to psych himself up to murder Luthor first in order to prevent a future where Superman kills President Lex and destroys the world, but it's clear he's actually pretty unhappy it's come to that point (and it turns out this universe's lex is a petty asshole with no interest in being president who only cares about beating superman, with the famous "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH POWER I WOULD NEED TO GIVE UP TO BECOME PRESIDENT?" line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOiTDyJUtjU
>"I'm a well-known crackpot. The Justice League's reputation will survive my actions, and Superman's legacy will remain intact."

>>213501240
I thought Minecraft did better

>>213505438
We can. MoS sold almost double of tickets of pedoman

>>213498794 (OP)
Did anybody have "biggest superhero in history flops in theaters" on their bingo chart? What the hell happened? Is this because gunn is a confirmed pedophile? Is that why nobody saw the movie?

>>213498865
Interesting. How does flopping fit into this "brand restoration" idea? Is this just part of long term investment, where in 50 years the franchise will break even?

>>213506554
it isnt a must watch. and not particularly memorable. so no rewatches. you forget about this movie as soon as you leave the theater.

>>213506451
>Huh? This wasn't the story
Did you not watch the movie? Who stopped the war in Boravia? Who closed the black hole? Who dislocated their arm because they were too weak to beat a "mindless" clone of themself?

>>213506554
I think its multiple factors at once. Consumers are tapped out bc of bad economy, people would rather stream, rebooted DC too soon, capeshit fatigue from marvelslop, nee DCU has no narrative focus, new Superman actor doesn't look cool and can't aura farm like Cavill, the trailer looked gay as hell and had cringe vibes, and finally, the movie actually really sucks ass.

>>213498865
no this was about Gunnman's ego and putting his personal stamp on the DCU.

>>213506500
It did. He's using Domestic because it's all he has.

>>213506641
>it isnt a must watch
It's literally the first entry in the new Domestic Cinematic Universe

>>213498865
No it was always about Snyder. Always. After BvS they hired Whedon to mutilate JL and then hired Gunn to take over DC later. Whedon and Gunn are Marvel-ites were hired to snuff out future creative expressions on a cultural level. Nothing can be serious, it has to lower the bar. Brainless slop IS the goal. The goal is to FAIL on purpose to sink creativity and lock away the ability for sincerity to manifest.

>>213505749
Jeets accusing someone of being a pervert is hilarious. How dick pics have you spammed to minors Rajeem?

>>213506713
No, that’s the suicide squad.

Yes, we are in a culture war; a psychological war; a war of ideas; a magical war.

Creativity is the transcendental seeping down into the mind of the dreamer. Making a film means manifesting living thoughts (egregores) into our realm and spreading it into the minds of others.

Snyder and Terrio sought to elevate and resonate, to remind the world of higher ideals worth fighting for. Why did Snyder go so dark and so brutal? Because his heroes were literally going to battle against the forces of evil; mourning at the fragility of life and bleeding so that beauty can persist another day.

Gunn's glib sociopathy seeks to descend and humiliate. Tearing down our idols and pursuing a relentless campaign of self-insistent lies. Gunn's slop represents a mockery of honesty; tedious cringe that empties the soul as well as the mind. It stands for nothing, teaches no lessons, and serves no higher purpose.

The blatant thievery of numerous plot points from MoS and BvS, especially by a Marvel-ite like Gunn, serves to further reinforce the theory that Superman (2025) is a cultural hit job and an attempt to rewrite, replace, and erase what came before.

We ARE in a culture war; a war of the mind, of creativity, and of magic. And the slop, and its slop-makers, are the opponents.

>>213507038
okay bruce we see the fit

>>213506514
Deadpool sold better than MOS. A fucking D list character. How come Nolan made two separate billion dollar Batman movies and Snyder couldn’t even make a billion with Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman in the same movie. Because he’s brand destroyer. The Batman didn’t make a billion because he tarnished Batman

>>213498902
Zero chesecake
Get woke go broke

>>213507074
If you think Snyder destroyed the brand, I wonder what you're gonna think when Supergirl flops right after S2025 did worse than MOS.

>>213498794 (OP)
>itt and countless before and after: white ass autists consolewarring and accusing each other of being pajeets

>>213507253
Look at the trailer views for peacemaker and creature commandos tard

Fact this movie did so well domestically is amazing. I thought this movie was going to under perform big time. I saw zero excitement for another Superman movie. Petty much all the comments I saw was “Not another Superman movie!” “Superman sucks!” “Who asked for this?”

>>213505698
>"THE PLASTIC TIPS AT THE ENDS OF SHOELACES ARE CALLED AGLETS, THEIR TRUE PURPOSE IS SINISTER!" it's "AQUAMAN FUCKS FISH!"
Jeffrey's Question was so fucking based.

>>213506485
Still amazes me some of the shit you saw in the CADMUS arc being children's television. Stuff like Superman's interaction with Hamiliton was gold too
>The chicken or the egg, Superman?

>>213507074
>Because he’s brand destroyer
If you want to see it that way then so is Gunn.

>>213507300
Look at the trailer views for Superman

>>213507300
>creature commandos
Creature Commandos came out like last December

>>213507689
Creature what?

>>213507612
What brand has he destroyed? Suicide Squad was dead. WB wasn’t even going to do another one but Gunn wanted to revive it. It didn’t do well because nobody wanted to see another one but it’s been well received once people got around to it

>>213507689
And it was a hit look at rotten tomatoes

>>213507847
>What brand has he destroyed?
Superman.

>>213507847
>but it’s been well received once people got around to it

>>213507994
>Great critic and audience repose
>First Superman movie hasn’t fallen off a cliff it’s second weekend in over 40 years
>Highest grossing domestic Superman movie ever

But bug people don’t like it!!!!

>>213508274
And it still flopped.

>>213507864
>thinking critics on RT are """credible"""

>>213508274
It's not enough. In real life the Superman brand is worse now than it was 10 years ago.

>>213508274
>domestic
You keep focusing on this, but you never bring up worldwide totals. Very curious...

>>213508274
>Great critic and audience repose
If you actually looked through those, they're obviously paid shills and bots, respectively.

>>213508470
Yeah, it only bombed in Asian countries. Movie had too much heart for soulless bug people. Course they would prefer the dour Murderman and seeing a US city looking like 9-11 on steroids. Also Cavill is as soulless as they are

>>213508645
Numbers don’t lie. If audiences didn’t like it would’ve bombed as as F4 it’s second weekend and would not be over 300 million domestically

>>213501903
WB gave Batman a rest because the B&R sequel wasn't coming together. Like the 4th Raimi Spider-Man before Sony decided to reboot with TASM

>>213508678
>heart
And what "heart" would that be? Be heckin "kind", scream like a woman when mad, and let people constantly beat the shit out of you? The new Superman is an embarrassment.

>>213508701
>domestically
domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically domestically

>>213508678
>>213508981
Be HECKIN gay and let people FUCK me in the ass. Also my wife, Lois, pegs me literally and figuratively.

>>213498865
If true, Ezra Miller + Walkin Fenix should be the brand ruiners on everyone's lips. Not Snyder

>>213498946
It's the worst movie I've seen all year. I don't know where he went wrong since Guardians 2.

>>213508678
mebe becuz MurderMan had some good action and goofy stupid but still memorable parts(pa kent sacrifice, collateral damage, DBZ style battles)

>>213508750
They were actually thinking of Batman vs Superman after Batman & Robin left people dissatisfied. Wolfgang Petersen was asked to direct it. Snyder’s BvS had a lot of elements from the original script. Like it being an older Batman and Robin, Alfred and Gordon are all dead and Bruce is very bitter. Clark was going to be divorced from Lois and going out with Lana

smells like shit in here

Snyderbots, if they were real, should be happy and say it loud on daily basis because their old enemy lost: 3 MCU movies out, 3 flops and lower incomes than Superman.
They will go on for years against Gunn not because of him but because they're marvelfags in disguise suffering hell.

>>213509522
But WB is our age old enemy, and Gunn represents everything bad about the MCU.

>>213508981
Snyderman was going to raise Batman’s son he had with Lois

>>213509522
The fact Disney put F4 out after Superman to destroy it and reinforce their dominance but it backfired horribly made Gunn the most loved guy at the WB.

>>213509684
>The fact Disney put F4 out after Superman to destroy it and reinforce their dominance but it backfired horribly made Gunn the most loved guy at the WB.

He already was eyed by the studio and when Disney kicked him out for the tweets it was decided to go for him.
Yes the same tweets someone is trying to use again without any effect LOL
It could have been someone else in place of Gunn but the snyderbots would use the same template of lies, unfairness and insanity

>>213509337
Schumacher said in an interview that WB started production on a Batman 5 that would have brought back all the 89-verse villains (in a Scarecrow-aided hallucination). WB changed leadership and pulled the plug. The Nolan trilogy has glimpses of finished and unfinished scripts from the previous series

>>213508981
None of these things happened, you are just mad because the movie tells you to stop hating others

>casts a Jew as the symbol for America
Too on the nose Gunn
>inb4 hurr durr Hawkgirl killed Netanyahu
It's Putin you mong

>>213510224
https://movieweb.com/batman-v-superman-canceled-movie/

>>213508981
The fact you have to ask shows you are a subhuman. This movie is actually proving one a great filter on who is and isn’t brown

>>213510349
>>213510551
Says the low caste pajeet shills. Don't you ever feel bad having to talk shit about your own kind?

>>213510482
Yes Putin ally of the US

>>213511408
Nice projection faggot. I know you’re not American because no American spergs out about “but it’s bombing in Albania!” The movie is doing great in the US. Who gives a fuck if bug people don’t like it.

>>213511577
You're pissing me the fuck off. Your English is stilted like a third-worlder. Can you sense the eloquence in my prose? You'll never have that. Fucking pajeet retard.
>Saars you are projecting saars, i am brahmin saars.

>>213498828
By comparison

>>213505236
Motherfucker this movie is on track to lose to a 10 year old shitbox of a Superman film. Not even accounting for inflation. How the fuck is that a successful movie you impotent ape. Absolute nigger IQ moron.

>>213501815
>Zaslav is very happy.
>>213501860
>I'm honestly just happy people are realizing this properties can be cool again

How do you do armchair zoomer investors?
Hint: Less people saw Pooperman 2025 than MoS 2013. Inflation is 40% since fucking 2013 or more.

Also, all in all, being a winner in the special olympics / the least retarded person in a retard race is not very impressive.
Despite the phrase, "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king", your shit is still subpar and we've been on a downward spiral since 2008, for everything.

>>213507368
Superman was embraced by upper-class liberals as a statement against Trump

He is just not Superman.

>>213507300
john cena's cameo got the most cheers in my kinoflex
peacemaker is more popular than you think

>>213514222
John Cena's more popular than he's ever been right now

>>213514245
no,. the audiences clearly recognized the character, not because it was John Cena.
I thought i was the only one watched that show but turned out everybody did

>>213514334
>everybody
Right that's why it had lower ratings than Ms Marvel and She Hulk

>>213514334
Kek no. We all know him because it's John Cena, I personally don't like his character since John was the boyscout of wrestling so him being a pottymouth doesn't fit.

>>213514362
tf are you even talking about?
are you trying to say peacemaker is not popular and is badly received ?

>>213514480
I guess your retarded ass is going to find out on the 21st

Or not since you're obviously dumb enough to fall for bullshit

>>213514419
you think people' d clap for a random John Cena's cameo that they had no idea what was his character and what he doing in a capeslop movie?

When was the last time you speak with someone that wasn't your mom?

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>>213514567
Yes, everyone loves celebrity cameos. I remember my theater popping when Michael Jordan appeared in that Brendan Fraser Looney Tunes movie

>>213514530
find what out?
The first peacemaker got decently rated and number of users' votes on social media, if you compare it to other similar shows like moonknight and shit. Obviously this is not game of throne's level but it isn't iron heart either.

If you are saying it's "absolutely ass and nobody cares", the burden of proof is on yours not mine.

Don’t even care about le sneeder, that faggot makes really gay and homo erotic movies. Just wanna see capeshit crash and burn.

what the FUCK is wrong with Snyder pajeets bros?

>>213514677
no you must pick a side, you can't dislike both things

>>213514480
You third-world idiot. John Cena has been a celebrity because of wrestling for DECADES. It's part of american culture, which you obviously know nothing about because you don't actually live here.

Bing chilling!

>>213509089
Ezra would not have turned weird if WB had allowed snyder to finish his flash movie

>>213509522
Beating MCU was never the goal, fucking minion movies beat them regularly. Snyder filters kids, women and fags until only high testosterone individuals are left. Ofcourse 700-800M were the ceiling.

>let us gaslight and pretend
not working

>>213514696
fuck you scum, a jobful person would never talk down on the best superman

>>213506302
dumbfuck Rorschach is a pastiche of the Question bec Alan Moore is a faggot.